[10:17] morning everyone [13:12] o/ [13:15] hey there zxmpi_ [13:15] happy friday [13:19] * penguin42 yaaawwwnnnns [13:40] https://youtu.be/kfVsfOSbJY0 [14:47] Did I miss the memo? Is iptables now deprecated? [14:49] Why is it that Linux devs deprecate stuff that works and there's universal knowledge? Like net-tools, deprecated. netstat and ifconfig are useful tools. Now I learn theres nftables. [14:50] it's an extension of the old rule, once it works it's obsolete, once it's in a pdf file it's obsolete [14:58] question, how do I replicate `netstat -an4` with the new tools? I couldn't figure it out. [15:03] oj mates [15:03] O/ [15:06] how do [15:08] Almost weekend. [15:08] doing some paperworks (billing) to cheer me up a little at the end of the week [15:08] #showmethemoney [15:08] friday afternoon, start of the weekend. so long as you don't answer the phone after 4pm :-P [15:12] and my friday is only just beginning *cries* [15:23] need a nice long meeting to make that time just fly :-P [17:25] one with a clock that has a seconds hand and a loud tick sound right in your eyeline [17:26] i want the clock from vetanaris waiting room with the irregular tick tock >:-) [17:53] Dave Plummer tells us what Abort, Retry, Fail means https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=392h_c3Tefs [18:09] Looks like the houses of parliament could do with a cable monkey: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/159C5/production/_121171588_46437241-c21a-4904-ba67-86936c2cc1dd.jpg [21:47] I need somebody to tell me that I'm nuts or paranoid for what I'm about to do. I'm considering putting my main workstation and work computer on a totally different network, firewalled from the rest of the network. Basically a zero trust type model. I have a second router/firewall to do this already and it's already being used as just a switch. I'm [21:47] not going to be doubling up on NAT, subnets will be totally routable. Thoughts? [21:49] not that insane depending what work you do and how little you trust the rest of your network [21:51] I control the whole network, but I have a ton of services like plex, home assistant, IOT devices, etc. a ton of stuff that could be compromised in a blink of an eye. [21:52] * penguin42 does have separate subnets for things like cctv cameras and wifi [21:52] I could move everything onto isolated VLANs, but then I run into trouble with streaming media from Plex, etc. [21:53] why don't you just employ a router with multiple NICs? that's what i do [21:54] nod, I have a load of NICs in it [21:54] Yeah, I could do that. [21:55] * penguin42 is connected on the ethtodave nic :-) [22:10] i now have 1 computer at home that is connected to no network whatsoever. only way to be sure :-) [22:11] * a Pi corrupts its' own SD card in protest