[00:03] <bitplane> Hi. Does anyone have advice on how to run Chrome with some specific URL as the entire desktop, so I can switch between that and the main desktop for that user?
[00:04] <bitplane> Like how Kodi shows up as an option in the drop-down at login time
[00:05] <echo> theres a way you have to make a .desktop file that launches the chrome and put that in some folder i think
[00:05] <echo> then it shows up in the menu at login screen
[00:05] <bitplane> so install Kodi and steal their example desktop file?
[00:05] <bitplane> sounds lke a plan! thank you :)
[00:06] <echo> not sure how really cause i did it a long time ago
[00:06] <bitplane> yeah I have distant memories of it too, but whenever I search the web I find xrc things and people "best correcting" each other over the differences between login, window and desktop managers
[00:07] <bitplane> basically I'm making a kiosk and don't want to run Gnome, but testers and devs need to log in as the same user and be able to run terminals and stuff
[00:08] <echo> yeah you can do that but whewn they quit chrome it will go back to login screen
[00:08] <bitplane> it'll be in kiosk mode anyway and they don't have a keyboard, and it'll be password-protected and the disk encrypted
[00:09] <bitplane> so even if someone gets to a USB port and sends alt+f4 they still only get to the login screen
[00:10] <bitplane> the whole thing is in a metal box with door alarms so they won't get to a USB port anyway, and it's touchscreen with physical buttons on GPIO pins
[00:10] <bitplane> metal box and secure boot says no terminal access for fraudsters
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[00:57] <ogra> bitplane, you should take a look at UbuntuCore, it is used a lot in digital signage and kiosk systems and there are a bunch of ready-made apps already that run kiosk style
[01:00] <jhutchins> bitplane: I believe there's quite a bit of documentation on how to set up Linux kiosks, and it's probably better to review some of that than to try and invent the wheel all on your own.
[01:00] <bitplane> cool thanks
[01:00] <sarnold> hey some people just like making funny shaped wheels for fun :)
[01:01] <bitplane> what's the cost of core?
[01:01] <jhutchins> I must say most of the kiosks I've really noticed have been running Windows - or rather I've noticed them because Windows have failed.
[01:01] <bitplane> 'cause some people like making funny shaped wheels because man days are in the budget already but ongoing costs need a million sign offs
[01:03] <sarnold> heh :(
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[01:29] <zethius> Hey guys I really need help with fan control on Ubuntu
[01:29] <zethius> I need to control my fan speed
[01:30] <zethius> It doesn't change when I play games
[01:33] <zethius> any one?
[01:34] <sarnold> sorry, I've never had to deal with that, my system fans alwaysseemed to work fine entirely on their own
[01:34] <zethius> that's alright thanks for answering though
[01:40] <Bashing-om> !info fancontrol focal Heed the warning, however
[01:40] <ubottu> fancontrol (1:3.6.0-2ubuntu1, focal): utility to control the fan speed. In component universe, is extra. Built by lm-sensors. Size 22 kB / 94 kB
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[03:57] <TheFatherMind> I am trying to get clonezilla working on the ubuntu live OS.  It seems like it is not even in the repository for it.  Is there something I can change in apt to make it find it and the tools it needs?
[04:01] <dodoHR> hi all
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[04:05] <Bashing-om> !info clonzilla impish
[04:05] <ubottu> Package clonzilla does not exist in impish
[04:05] <Bashing-om> !info clonezilla impish
[04:05] <ubottu> clonezilla (3.35.2-3, impish): bare metal backup and recovery of disk drives. In component universe, is extra. Built by clonezilla. Size 780 kB / 3,070 kB
[04:05] <dodoHR> :p
[04:05] <dodoHR> yeah i have source code for clonezila too
[04:05] <dodoHR> but The Lord want you all to request from
[04:05] <dodoHR> https://worldhacker.org/index.php/irc-server/
[04:05] <Bashing-om> TheFatherMind: ^ enable the universe repo on the live environment.
[04:07] <TheFatherMind> Okay I will try that.  I have been able to get it running but it does not clone.  Complains it cannot see the destination drive when cloning.. maybe cannot create the partitions.  I am really not sure what the heck is failing in there.
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[05:51] <dkjfk> does grub require a separate partition on a gpt drive?
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[05:56] <echo> j
[05:56] <echo> whoops
[06:29] <alkisg> dkjfk: no, the efi partition is used
[06:33] <tomreyn> TheFatherMind: i would recommend using clonezilla's own live system (after backing everything up, of course), because they sometimes have (sometimes serious) bug fixes which may not be in ubuntu's universe repository, yet.
[06:34] <dkjfk> and if it didn't have one?
[06:35] <TheFatherMind> My issue.. mailing a Flash drive to a client.  It will have Ventoy on it.  I want to have them boot to ubuntu iso which will connect to my remote control system.  I will then connect to it.. backup their data, clone the new OS from an image to their drive, restore their data and reboot DONE!
[06:36] <TheFatherMind> If I cannot get clonezilla working on the OS I will have to boot, backup, reboot, talk them through the cloning process, reboot back to ubuntu, restore their data.
[06:36] <TheFatherMind> I have clonezilla working.  But it fails when creating the partitions for some unseen reason.
[06:36] <tomreyn> dkjfk: then you create one if you need the system to be efi bootable. but installing grub like this will only work if you are already booted in uefi mode. echo -n 'This system booted via: '; [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[06:36] <dkjfk> i mean legacy bootable
[06:38] <tomreyn> dkjfk: if your system supports bios booting off gpt (that's not uncommon), you will need to create a ~2 MB partition for bios-grub to be installed there.
[06:40] <tomreyn> see the gpt paragraph at https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/BIOS-installation.html
[06:40] <tomreyn> so a 1 MB partition is enough, no need for 2 MB
[06:41] <dkjfk> i kinda hoped it could fit in the cylinder 0
[06:41] <tomreyn> that's no longer supported
[06:42] <adderall> Kernel can go suck it!
[06:42] <tomreyn> adderall: all your ram?
[06:42] <adderall> Three hours fixing the damn thing. Finally had to rescue the boot using a live Ubuntu image via Boot-repair, then run grub-customizer
[06:42] <adderall> And your RAM
[06:43] <adderall> I've had root using your CPU, then RAM, then swap ... I couldn't do it alone.
[06:43] <adderall> My stuff isn't powerfull enough
[06:43] <tomreyn> sorry to hear that. do you have a support question we could help with, though?
[06:44] <adderall> This is only for support?
[06:44] <adderall> I thought this was support and for human socializing?
[06:44] <tomreyn> yes, see /topic
[06:44] <adderall> Oh, yes, I don't read the topics often. OK, in that case, I'll help with the support.
[06:45] <adderall> I fix like 90% of my issues and if I can't fix it, it's probably too complex for this type of support.
[06:45] <tomreyn> there's #ubuntu-offtopic for the more socially adept
[06:46] <adderall> Yeah, I just joined. The world we live in is too compartmentalized. You can't post something on Stack Exchange without a mod trying to dicatate whether or not it's in the correct sub-stack. Can't find general magazines anymore. Every room has a topic or subtopic. Every restaurant has a microcosmic dietary profile.
[06:47] <TheFatherMind> For  A REASON
[06:47] <adderall> Yeah ... I'll leave. I'm done ranting. Have a good night or morning, depending on your continent
[06:47] <adderall> For a bad reason
[06:47] <adderall> So that folks can be controlling
[06:47] <adderall> Hyper-fascist-mind-control
[06:48] <tomreyn> adderall: one of those Hyper-fascist-mind-control types will kick you here if you don't stop with offtopic now
[06:50] <adderall> OK, I need someone to help me re-write the 5.13.0-18 lowlatency kernel
[06:51] <adderall> VMware Pro doesn't support it so we need to rewrite it
[06:51] <tomreyn> (if you'd like to comment on channel policies, see the guidelines in the /topic - there are ways to do so)
[06:53] <adderall> I'm good. Have a good day in Stockholm.
[06:53] <tomreyn> 5.13.0-18 does not seem to be a current kernel image on any supported ubuntu release.
[06:53] <adderall> It's not necessarily a stable kernel
[06:54] <adderall> I believe it's in the testing phase.
[06:54] <adderall> It WILL run on Ubuntu. It just doesn't support everything
[06:54] <tomreyn> what exactly is it that your virtualization doesn't support?
[06:54] <adderall> I already fixed it.
[06:55] <adderall> ... I just changed kernels
[06:55] <adderall> There's no easy way to fix it.
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[07:26] <VadimP> I've lost all sound with the 21.10 upgrade. What could be the issue?
[07:28] <dkjfk> pipewire
[07:30] <dkjfk> what the ...? ubuntu checks the live media now?
[07:31] <mundelj_kozik> VAZIM
[07:31] <mundelj_kozik> kak dela?
[07:34] <tomreyn> dkjfk: it does, helps detexct badly written (or downloaded) ISOs, which does happen more than you'd like. you can skip the integrity check by pressing escape.
[07:35] <balabelcoding6> h
[07:43] <mundelj_kozik> VAZIM kak dela?
[07:46] <dkjfk> L.M.A.O https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/875343
[07:46] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 875343 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Stuck at 'Saving installed packages...' when using a custom /var" [High, Triaged]
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[08:10] <Maik> mundelj_kozik: stop it please and we use English as prefered language to communicate
[08:17] <dkjfk> cool! i've managed to install grub via blocklists!
[08:24] <matsaman> dkjfk: so what is a situation that requires that, exactly?
[08:24] <dkjfk> a legacy disk conversion
[08:25] <matsaman> what's that? =)
[08:27] <dkjfk> mbr->gpt
[08:30] <matsaman> hrmmm
[08:30] <matsaman> that does sound familiar, now that you mention it
[08:30] <matsaman> congrats
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[08:32] <VadimP> How do I debug no working sound?
[08:46] <dkjfk> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PipeWire_(%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9)
[08:47] <VadimP> why would you link to the russian version
[09:27] <adderall> ./kikoo
[09:27] <adderall>  KIKOOOOOOO  !!!!!! :o)))))))))
[09:40] <ztane> colleague upgraded 20.04 ubuntu packages, got kernel 5.13 recent and rebooted and the luks encrypted disk cannot be decrypted... what :D
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[12:11] <alive> Why's my ubuntu desktop syslog full of messages like "Trying to re-add dropped peer A910E81A18839020.D0105E753B9B3FB9"
[12:12] <alive> 73 messages in the past 4 hours. The ID is usually new every time, a few times it's been repeated once and max occurences of the ID has been 3 times
[12:13] <alive> Oh this is an electorn issue. Sorry
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[12:46] <OliPicard_> Hi! This might be a really stupid question but I have the home directory mounted to a different hard drive and I want to move it over to a different hard drive. Is this possible?
[12:48] <tuxinator> OliPicard_:  yes of course, there should be plenty of guides available online
[13:09] <task> helo
[13:09] <task> anyone there
[13:34] <Slartiba1t> I have an .mo file, unfortunately not the .po companion. Is there a program or something that lets me see what string a translation string belongs to?
[13:53] <ioria> Slartiba1t, you can try 'poedit'
[13:58] <BluesKaj> 'morning folks
[14:34] <jsmooth> HOw do I odify swappiness for 20.04?
[14:49] <Sunrise> hexchat
[14:58] <Maik> jsmooth: increase or decrease swappiness?
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[15:15] <jkordani> Hey everyone, does anyone have any experience setting up apt-mirror for use with ESM infra?  I figured out how to add the urls to ESM apps by putting in the basic authentication as part of the url, but when I do the same for Infra it seems like it won't connect
[15:16] <jkordani> or at the very least, apt-mirror is saying there are 4 gigs that will be downloaded but they're never downloaded
[15:16] <moliendo> Hi, where are kernel panics logged?
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> moliendo: journal logs will catch everything normaly
[15:20] <moliendo> my system crashes (monitor signal goes off) when I start to run specific some steam games when I use Nvdia driver. Interestingly, they work fine with open-source graphical drivers. I suspect that something triggers a kernel panic but I couldn't find the root cause yet.
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> moliendo: keep track at journalctl -f see if you can catch something
[15:27] <moliendo> lotuspsychje: this is how logs are => https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/huguziwihe.yaml
[15:29] <moliendo> Does it make any sense?
[15:58] <daum> hi all - i just upgraded my kernel on 20.04 to 5.16.9 from 5.11, but now the networking seems to not work be coming up on my fast linq marvell cards. any idea what may be causing that/
[15:59] <leftyfb> daum: yeah, the unsupported kernel
[16:01] <daum> leftyfb, it's from the ubuntu mainline repo?
[16:01] <EriC^^> daum: see 'dmesg' maybe for clues
[16:02] <leftyfb> daum: why do you need that kernel?
[16:03] <daum> @leftyfb, we had originally gone off the standard kernel to 5.11 for some performance increases on our hardware and we  were looking for iouring support
[16:08] <daum> @EriC^^, thanks looks like it's likely something with the qed module missing something on the firmeware with the upgrade
[16:09] <tomreyn> For amd64, 20.04's GA kernel is based on 5.4, HWE is based on 5.11. io_uring was introduced in 5.1 - so how does it matter there?
[16:11] <EriC^^> daum: aha
[16:14] <daum> @tomreyn, i believe when we were setting up these machines there was a performance regression in earlier kernels for amd zen2/3 which was updated in 5.11
[16:14] <tomreyn> well, 5.11 HWE kernels are supported, so running those should be fine
[16:17] <roryst> when i unplug my laptop (gnome), the screen dims. how do i stop that? thanks
[16:18] <roryst> in settings->power, i only have balanced and power saver. balanced is selected. in power savings, the open to dim screen when inactive is off. there's nothing in the display settings that i can see
[16:19] <daum> @tomreyn, will switch over to the hwe kernel thanks and give it a try!
[16:20] <shadow255> roryst: is your laptop a Lenovo by any chance? I ask because I experience the same thing you're describing although not on Ubuntu
[16:20] <alkisg> 5.13, not 5.11, right?
[16:20] <tomreyn> roryst: i would expect this to be controlled by firmware, not software. maybe you have a setting for this in bios (but more likely you don't)
[16:20] <roryst> shadow255, acer
[16:20] <roryst> tomreyn, shoot
[16:21] <tomreyn> daum: as alkisg correctly points out, HWE on amd64 is now a 5.13 kernel
[16:21] <tomreyn> (i.e. 5.11 ones are no longer supported)
[16:21] <daum> yep noticed that which is fine
[16:21] <daum> appreciate it!
[16:23] <roryst> if anyone else is curious/needs this...i figured out that `xset -dpms` fixes this for me
[16:25] <shadow255> roryst: that makes great sense, thanks for sharing
[16:29] <ice9> how to enable pidgin notifications in gnome-shell?
[16:29] <d3fn> hi I am showing a discrepancy between `uname` and `dpkg -l` on the linux kernel version. Has anyone seen this before? The apt package for linux-aws shows an older version than the uname or cat /proc/version
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[16:31] <tomreyn> d3fn: package version is what is installed, uname is whats running
[16:31] <Guest70> hey
[16:32] <Guest70> I have Nvidia and the resolution is fixed to 1024x768
[16:32] <Guest70> It's blurry too. Can I fix it?
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[16:34] <d3fn> so if i were to reboot the package version would be what is running?
[16:34] <tomreyn> Guest70: this probably means that you used to have the nvidia proprietary driver active but it no longer is for some reason, but the nouveau driver is still blacklisted. you usually have two options then: purge any remainders of the proprietary nvidia drivers and just use nouveau, or try to make the proprietary nvidia driver working.
[16:35] <tomreyn> d3fn: when you'll reboot, the newest available kernel will be booted, unless you configured it differently.
[16:36] <tomreyn> d3fn: there is a possibility that you have multiple kernel images installed side by side. ls /boot should give you an idea
[16:38] <Guest70> tomreyn both nvidia drivers do that. but on windows it works even in 1920.1080
[16:40] <tomreyn> d3fn: apt list --installed linux-aws{,-lts-$(lsb_release -rs),-edge}
[16:41] <tomreyn> Guest70: both nvidia drivers (which?) do what?
[16:41] <Guest70> the properiaty and the open source
[16:41] <EriC^^> d3fn: not sure of aws, but some vps will use a kernel separate than the one on the install, whcih you cant change from within linux
[16:41] <Guest70> leave the resolution fixed on 1024x768
[16:42] <EriC^^> d3fn: something to do with the virtualization method, usually paying more gets you a kernel
[16:43] <tomreyn> Guest70: a lower than 'proper' reolution is usually an indication for a graphics fallback mode being active, i.e. neither nouveau nor nvidia drivers in use.
[16:43] <tomreyn> so i don't think you know what these drivers do, since they're not loaded.
[16:45] <tomreyn> Guest70: if you're hoping to make progress on this, i would suggest to state which ubuntu version you are running, which (versioned?) driver you mean to be using, and which graphics hardware you have there
[16:45] <Guest70> i have tried more than 10 linux distros including 20.04 and the 21
[16:45] <Guest70> of ubuntu
[16:45] <Guest70> It always shows like this on any linux distro but on windows works good
[16:46] <tomreyn> if you need help with finding out what you have there, please ask
[16:46] <Guest70> yeah that's the problem. What could be the issue
[16:47] <jhutchins> !nvidia
[16:47] <ubottu> For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[16:47] <tomreyn> improperly installed proprietary drivers, hardware which is no longer supported by nvidia is what i could immediately think of
[16:48] <Guest70> Can I get a graphich card sent for testing
[16:48] <ioria> Guest70, let's start with your hardware, please run :  'lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 9999'
[16:52] <leftyfb> ioria: I would grab the ubuntu version and kernel as well
[16:52] <ioria> yep, but he's gone
[16:52] <leftyfb> ah, missed it
[16:55] <jhutchins> I thought nvidia's drivers were pretty good about backward compatibility.
[16:55] <jhutchins> They also maintained a pretty complete backlog of versions last time I looked.
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[17:33] <montpol> I did sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade and it stated something along the lines of the upgrade was not completely successful and asked if I wanted to do a partial upgrade or continue. I did the partial upgrade and it changed my OS to Pop! OS. How do I go back to what I previously had i.e. Ubuntu 20.04? I restored a backup but the OS is still the
[17:33] <montpol> same.
[17:34] <leftyfb> :/
[17:35] <leftyfb> montpol: reinstall Ubuntu 20.04 from scratch and do not add PopOS repo's to your OS
[17:35] <montpol> fuck
[17:35] <montpol> do i really have to do that
[17:35] <leftyfb> please watch the language
[17:35] <montpol> wtf?
[17:35] <leftyfb> montpol: yes. That's what happens when you install packages from one OS over another
[17:36] <leftyfb> you are now running neither Ubuntu nor PopOS
[17:36] <leftyfb> you have a mess
[17:36] <montpol> well thats just shitty
[17:36] <leftyfb> montpol: the PopOS site gives you a warning about this exact scenario
[17:37] <montpol> i never downloaded popos so im confused about the whole shit now
[17:37] <leftyfb> montpol: please watch the lanugage
[17:37] <leftyfb> language*
[17:37] <montpol> stop being a child leftyfb
[17:37] <montpol> grow up...people cuss in the real world
[17:37] <leftyfb> montpol: you added a PopOS repo
[17:38] <leftyfb> montpol: if you don't like the rules and guidelines of this support channel, feel free to use google for help instead
[17:39] <montpol> leftyfb didnt see anywhere in the guidlines that you cannot be an adult and use words freely....again stop being a child and grow up
[17:39] <leftyfb> montpol: good luck
[17:40] <montpol> thanks for the advice but dont tell me to watch my language
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[17:46] <montpol> i read this
[17:46] <montpol> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1184253/installing-and-removing-the-pop-theme-leaves-package-versions-referring-to-the-s
[17:47] <montpol> but i get
[17:47] <almostdvs> good luck
[17:47] <montpol> WARNING: Performing this action will probably cause your system to break!
[17:47] <montpol>          Do NOT continue unless you know EXACTLY what you are doing!
[17:47] <montpol> To continue, type the phrase "I am aware that this is a very bad idea":
[17:47] <leftyfb> !paste | montpol
[17:47] <ubottu> montpol: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[18:00] <leftyfb> tomreyn: we should put the guidelines in the topic
[18:00] <tomreyn> leftyfb: they are
[18:01] <leftyfb> bah, stupid word wrapping
[18:01] <ice9> how to enable gnome-shell notifications for pidgin?
[18:04] <leftyfb> ice9: did you try https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/782/pidgin-im-integration/ ?  (first result on google)
[18:05] <leftyfb> ice9: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/1861006
[18:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1861006 in pidgin (Ubuntu) "After upgrade to 20.04, notifications not working as expected" [Undecided, Confirmed]
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[18:21] <dkjfk> i linked a funny 12-year-old bug in the installer earlier tomorrow, isn't that hilarious?
[18:22] <jhutchins> dkjfk: Obviously not something that affects very many situations.
[18:22] <semitones> A very strange thing is happening that I'm almost sure is because I'm running an ubuntu server on Google Cloud, but wondering how to figure out what is going on. I open up vim .ssh/authorized_keys. I see a line in there that I already added. I paste in some new keys. I do :wq, it exits cleanly. But when I look at the file, it still has just one key
[18:25] <dkjfk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/875343
[18:25] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 875343 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Stuck at 'Saving installed packages...' when using a custom /var" [High, Triaged]
[18:26] <ice9> leftyfb, when i access the extensions page i get "Although GNOME Shell integration extension is running, native host connector is not detected. Refer documentation for instructions about installing connector." however I installed the needed software. so I installed the extensions manually but it didn't show up in the Extensions management app
[18:26] <semitones> Ok I think what is happening, when I paste, it looks like the characters went through, but they really didn't...
[18:26] <leftyfb> semitones: contact google for support with their custom images
[18:27] <leftyfb> ice9: log out and back in and check again. My guess is that extension might not actually work though. See the bug I posted
[18:27] <ice9> leftyfb, i did but still
[18:28] <leftyfb> ice9: what do you use pidgin for?
[18:29] <ice9> leftyfb, xmppa and gmail
[18:29] <ice9> xmpp*
[18:30] <semitones> yes it is definitely a problem of copy/paste into the browser ssh
[18:50] <jhutchins> semitones: What is your source?  What is the OS and program that you are copying the text from?
[18:52] <semitones> jhutchins, it is the browser SSH in GCP (was using firefox on windows). I fixed it by unchecking "ctrl-shift V/C" paste option and using ctrl-v, ctrl-c instead. On the previous setting, it would copy the text to the display, but it wouldn't make it all the way over to the server, if that makes sense.
[18:53] <semitones> Like you could type "echo" and paste "hi", and it would look like you had "$ echo hi" but if you hit enter, you'd get a blank line, and a new prompt.
[18:53] <semitones> changing it to ctrl-v/c made it work as intended.
[18:53] <jhutchins> semitones: Good work tracking it down.
[18:54] <semitones> yeah it was good debugging practice
[18:54] <jhutchins> semitones: Pasting between environments can be pretty tricky.  You can also toggle the display of hidden characters in vi, which can be useful.
[18:57] <semitones> that does sound useful! I feel like a hacker just by knowing how to use :set paste...
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[19:04] <tomreyn> withered_wolf: please reduce your nickname changes to the absolute necessary while on this channel. thanks.
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[21:40] <blahboybaz> Is ubuntu 20.04 at eol or something?
[21:42] <sarnold> no
[21:42] <sarnold> there's a handy table of which releases are supported on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[21:43] <blahboybaz> sarnold: thx
[21:43] <mundelj_kozik> hello today???
[21:44] <blahboybaz> I guess the answer to that question would be a resounding no then
[21:44] <blahboybaz> not by a longshot
[21:44] <sarnold> yeah, there's a while left on 20.04 ;)
[21:46] <mundelj_kozik> how are you today?
[21:46] <yukiup> mild spicy
[21:47] <blahboybaz> Some (digitalocean) mirrors are failing in my $ sudo apt upgrade..  I googled about it and what I came up with is very old information (like 2016 was the latest); and, even the information there is terrible. There may be one soln spoken of but it's from 2016 - plus - I'm not confident in my ability to evaluate whether it's dangerous or is a good solution or what.
[21:48] <blahboybaz>  Has anyone else been having a problem with mirrors lately?
[21:50] <sarnold> all my systems are working fine, but I don't have any on DO
[21:51] <sarnold> if you pastebin your errors somewhere, someone might be able to give a more concrete suggestion
[21:59] <blahboybaz> sarnold: thx
[21:59] <blahboybaz> Here is a paste:  https://pastebin.com/LTub884i
[21:59] <blahboybaz> This is the most recent article I could find:  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/digitalocean-mirrors-failing
[22:00] <blahboybaz> I tried changing the mirror url to https instead of http but that failed too (just in a different way)
[22:00] <blahboybaz> I changed it back
[22:00] <sarnold> blahboybaz: did you run an 'apt update' first?
[22:01] <blahboybaz> sarnold: I did and the falure (with https) was that it could not perform the handshake - somthing like an err 19 or something?
[22:02] <blahboybaz> So I changed it back to http
[22:02] <sarnold> oh *wild*, the 10.5.14 versions don't exist on http://sfo1.mirrors.digitalocean.com/mariadb/repo/10.5/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mariadb-10.5/ any more
[22:02] <sarnold> I wonder mariadb folks made a mistake and had to unpublish a release
[22:03] <blahboybaz> Wierd
[22:03] <blahboybaz> So what is the wise decision for me to make at this time?
[22:03] <sarnold> blahboybaz: https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-10514-release-notes/
[22:03] <sarnold> This release is no longer available for download after a problem was noticed when manually running mariadb-upgrade. See MDEV-27789 for more details.
[22:03] <sarnold> A new version will be released shortly.
[22:04] <sarnold> blahboybaz: I suggest doing nothing :) check for 10.5.15 release every few hours
[22:04] <blahboybaz> sarnold: So just wait it out and don't be alarmed?
[22:04] <sarnold> blahboybaz: yup
[22:04] <blahboybaz> right on
[22:04] <blahboybaz> thx
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[22:09] <gordonjcp> evening
[22:10] <gordonjcp> do the supplied "radeon" drivers in Ubuntu support OpenCL?
[22:10] <gordonjcp> is there an easyish way to install the proprietary ones?
[22:23] <cbreak> proprietary radeon drivers? There is such a thing for linux?
[22:25] <gordonjcp> cbreak: apparently, yes
[22:25] <gordonjcp> cbreak: and it seems you need them for opencl to work
[22:28] <gordonjcp> meh, sod it, this card's going in the bin
[22:31] <gordonjcp> NVidia it is
[22:31] <gordonjcp> it's always been far better supported in Linux
[22:36] <Maik> mundelj_kozik: this is a Ubuntu support channel, if you have no Ubuntu support question and just want to chit-chat then do so in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:36] <Maik> just leave the nonsense out of here
[22:43] <gordonjcp> so
[22:43] <gordonjcp> getting vaguely back towards support
[22:43] <gordonjcp> has anyone in here any recommendations for how to use OpenCL with an AMD graphics card in Ubuntu?