[18:54] OvenWerks: I'm going to make a change for the pavucontrol button in studio-controls to allow for either pavucontrol or pavucontrol-qt otherwise we end up with both installed. [18:56] Eickmeyer: pavucontrol-qt is no good. That is why we use pavucontrol and... both are installed [18:56] OvenWerks: What do you mean? It seems fine to me. [18:56] pavucontrol-qt does not have vu metering [18:57] (or did not the last time I tried) [18:57] Oh, I see what you mean. [18:57] OvenWerks: Wait... No? It has VU metering. [18:57] At least it does now. [18:58] Running both side-by-side, I see no issues. [18:58] it has been some time since I tried it ;) (since plasma was the DE) [18:59] I think allowing for either-or is the way to go. [19:00] yup it works now. [19:00] sure, that means changing the deps too. [19:00] Not hard, it's just a matter of making the pavucontrol entry to be "pavucontrol | pavucontrol-qt". [19:01] So if one is already there, it won't install the other. [19:01] I am working hard at taking out all the dbus-send commands and replacing them with python dbus calls [19:01] That's probably the way to go. [19:02] There are still a number of binary starts, but I don't think I can get rid of them [19:03] the zita-ajbridge stuff I may be able to... if I can run them inside jackdbus... and still be able to kill just one. [20:06] Eickmeyer: if you haven't started making pavucontrol either qt or not, I can do that [20:08] there just did. [21:17] OvenWerks: Ok, I'll look. [21:18] OvenWerks: Did you push the change? [21:32] just now. [21:33] If you are going to try it, you need to use both autojack and studio-controls [21:33] changes are big enough to need both [21:35] Well so long as you do nothing but try to run pavucontrol I guess it would be ok but if you send any command to autojack, I am not sure how well that would go. [22:08] OvenWerks: Ok, sounds good. [22:09] OvenWerks: Just FYI, Feature Freeze is the 24th. [22:38] Eickmeyer: ok. I think I have one thing left to do to finish dbus switch over. I am using a file to transfer autojack status but would like to switch to dbus param. [22:39] OvenWerks: Sounds good. [22:40] the only other thing I can think of is I have to many usb device detects (even with no usb devices in sight) I think I will save a copy of /proc/asound/cards and compare