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oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:51
dufluMorning oSoMoN 07:25
oSoMoNhey duflu 07:26
jpnurmigood morning07:54
jpnurmihey duflu and oSoMoN07:54
dufluHi jpnurmi 07:54
didrocksgood morning08:09
dufluMorning didrocks 08:09
jibelgood morning all08:27
didrockshey duflu, jibel 08:33
dufluHi jibel 08:34
oSoMoNhi jpnurmi, salut didrocks & jibel 09:00
jpnurmihey didrocks and jibel09:00
seb128goood morning desktopers09:01
oSoMoNsalut seb128 09:02
didrockssalut oSoMoN, jpnurmi & seb128 09:03
jpnurmigood morning seb12809:03
dufluHi seb128 09:08
seb128lut oSoMoN didrocks, hey jpnurmi duflu, how are you?09:16
dufluseb128, going well. You?09:16
NafallozZzZ09:18
Nafallojpnurmi: det regnar :-(09:18
didrocksI’m good :p hey Nafallo!09:18
jpnurmiNafallo: som vanligt09:19
oSoMoNI'm doing good, feeling more awake than yesterday at the same time of the day09:19
dufluHi Nafallo 09:19
Nafallohi guys :-)09:19
Nafallojpnurmi: well, google säger att det ska snöa i en vecka från imorgon ;-)09:19
NafalloI'm starting to think I need to get a properly remote work and relocate somewhere warmer :-P09:20
jpnurmiNafallo: hmm, inte enlight yr.no09:21
seb128duflu, I'm alright09:21
jpnurmiwe're dreaming of retiring to philippines one day in the distant future :)09:21
seb128hey Nafallo 09:22
dufluNafallo, it's 30-40 degrees every day here and rained once only since December. Be careful what you wish for09:22
Nafalloduflu: but you have poisonous critters everywhere instead? :-D09:23
dufluYeah watch out for the drop bears09:23
NafalloI'm pretty sure I rather get wet than dead :-P09:23
dufluLast time anyone died from a venomous spider here was the 1980s I think09:24
dufluDon't quote me on that09:24
Nafalloexcluding tourists? oh wait... pandemic :-P09:25
Nafallobut yeah. it's like bears in Sweden. it's been like 2 deadly attacks the last century, and at least one of those the guy shooting at the bear.09:26
jpnurmiwe had a lynx stopping by and saying hi to the dogs just a few meters from the fence09:29
Nafallooh wow. those are usually shy.09:30
jpnurmii wasn't around but i got a horribly fuzzy video from the neighbor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrtzgivZv8Y09:32
Nafallowow. that's so cool!09:33
jpnurmisweden's mini tiger :D09:33
dufluhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx09:35
dufluWait, that's also the name of a band09:35
Nafalloduflu: well played ;-). made me remember the UDS where the UK staff had a lot of Lynx (UK's name for Axe) with them :-P09:37
dufluOh right, not actual axes. Yes it's called Lynx here too09:39
Nafallohaha. yeah... they didn't bring axes across the Atlantic and passed US customs indeed ;-)09:39
Nafalloseb128: remember what city that was? I remember it had a pool on the roof and wireless Internet, but not what it was called :-P09:40
seb128no I don't :)09:44
NafalloDallas rings a bell...09:47
dufluo/10:07
ricotzhello desktopers!10:47
oSoMoNhello ricotz 10:47
ricotzhey oSoMoN 10:47
ricotzdidrocks, hi, is the component mismatch of "libreoffice recommending www-browser" solvable?10:48
ricotzI am wondering why such virtual package dependencies are not resolved with main packages first before trying universe10:50
didrocksricotz: want to rewrite apt? :p Didn’t we say we first have firefox to fix this?11:55
didrocksthe browser is not the only one btw, you have more recommends in component-mismatches now11:55
didrocksricotz: just find another rdepends trying to pull a browser I guess and try to do the same for libreoffice, I would say11:56
ricotzdidrocks, firefox already provides www-browser, so the upcoming snap transition would be affected11:56
didrockslibreoffice is not the first one trying to recommends a browser, so I’m sure we can find other example in main and handle it the same way11:57
ricotzso this is basically some apt command and checkinge the pulled in packages?11:57
didrocks(then dillo and tk-html3 needs to be looked at as well)11:57
didrocksricotz: yes. It’s based on the output of germinate IIRC11:57
didrocksso basically, this is what the iso would pull11:58
ricotzI see :\, the graph is kind of bogus in this case11:58
didrocksseb128: hey, btw, for you libhandy -> glade11:58
didrocksricotz: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.html for a textual version11:59
ricotzyeah, how "www-browser" is resolved there seems kind of random12:00
ricotzso basically putting "firefox" first as alternative is the only way or dropping the recommend completely12:01
seb128didrocks, hey, thx12:03
didrocksricotz: unsure it’s the only way (you can ask Colin Watson he would know better), but it’s a reliable way for sure12:21
jbichagood morning12:53
KGB-2mozjs signed tags be69fb3 Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/91.5.1-0ubuntu1 * mozjs91 Debian release 91.5.1-0ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/iWGUR13:16
didrocksgood morning jbicha 13:18
oSoMoNgood morning jbicha 13:22
julianko/ I reverted back from Wayland to Xorg and it seems I can't attach files from inside google chrome, keybase (both debs), nor firefox snap14:10
juliankI guess they all use portals and they stopped working on X?14:10
jbichaTrevinho: I'm waiting to package gnome-settings-daemon 42 Beta until I see how it works with the new gnome-shell & friends. I'll have to add some package Breaks for the screenshot changes.14:10
juliankFeb 15 15:08:52 jak-t480s Keybase[1661470]: The peer-to-peer connection failed: Timeout was reached. Falling back to the session bus. Your application is probably missing --filesystem=xdg-run/gvfsd privileges.14:11
juliankFeb 15 15:09:35 jak-t480s nautilus[2994117]: The peer-to-peer connection failed: Timeout was reached. Falling back to the session bus. Your application is probably missing --filesystem=xdg-run/gvfsd privileges.14:11
juliankYeah I also cannot start nautilus14:12
juliankgvfs-daemon.service was hanging Feb 14 12:50:02 jak-t480s gvfsd[1358261]: got no contact to IPC$14:14
fossfreedomjbicha: are there an plans for a ppa or maybe uploading to experimental for the mutter and gnome-settings-daemon beta 2 stuff? 14:19
fossfreedombeta not beta 214:19
jbichaT_revinho is working on mutter. g-s-d 42 Alpha is already in Jammy/Experimental. The 2 commits of interest are the latest media-keys changes to https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/commits/master14:21
jbichaour plan is to get mutter & gnome-shell into jammy-proposed this week14:22
fossfreedomAh..   Good good. That will be very useful to work against.14:23
seb128hey jbicha, how are you?14:33
jbichagood14:44
seb128jbicha, how is the new GNOME packaging going? do you need help with any of the items?14:50
jbichaI didn't file a bug for tracker-miners yet. It built for me with Debian's icu/experimental so my guess is the problem is python 3.10 but I haven't investigated much14:54
seb128you could open a bug to start anyway?14:55
seb128kenvandine, hey, bug triagE?15:01
seb128he seems not around, I will review anyway15:03
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html15:03
seb128bug #196045815:04
ubottuBug 1960458 in at-spi2-core (Ubuntu) "patch git_socket_dir.patch causing FTBFS in gspell" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196045815:04
seb128I nominated and think it's a regression so we should figure it out, I've been poking and giving details upstream so I will assign it to myself15:05
seb128bug #196038715:05
ubottuBug 1960387 in fprintd (Ubuntu) "fprintd crashed with SIGSEGV in log_v() from usbi_log() from libusb_unref_device()" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196038715:05
seb128duflu mentioned it's the most reported fprintd error so probably worth targetting, I would vote +115:06
seb128Trevinho, ^15:06
Trevinhoseb128: yeah, I think it's due to libgusb issue plus we'd probably need https://github.com/libusb/libusb/pull/1073/15:07
ubottuPull 1073 in libusb/libusb "Fix late transfer free's" [Open]15:07
seb128Trevinho, ack, I can cherry pick that fix, I'm adding to my list15:08
Trevinhoseb128: nice, libgusb also is goiung to be updated..15:08
TrevinhoI was trying to update libfprint yesterday and we found all these issues15:08
seb128updated like a new release? I will handle it once it's out15:09
Trevinhoseb128: yeah, I've it ready for being sponsored, but didn't ask yet because of those issues that are leading to crashes15:09
seb128Trevinho, ah, ok, well let me know when you need sponsoring15:09
seb128next bug on the list is also for you15:09
Trevinhosure15:09
seb128bug #196089815:10
ubottuBug 1960898 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Wayland sessions crash with Gjs:ERROR:../gi/interface.cpp:101:bool InterfacePrototype::has_instance_impl(JSContext*, const JS::CallArgs&): assertion failed: (args[0].isObject()) from <email address hidden>/locations.js:1108" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196089815:10
Trevinhomh.... one of the reasons why I preferred to delay gjs/mozjs updates? :)15:10
seb128lol15:11
seb128the other ones we already discussed in previous meeting or need info15:11
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-tracking-bug-tasks.html15:11
Trevinhowe may get another on indicator, if upstream didn't handle it yet, but I don't think so15:11
seb128Trevinho, should I assign that one to you?15:12
Trevinhoyeah15:12
seb128thx15:12
seb128also unsure if you saw my ping yesterday asking if you wanted to handle backporting the dark theme upstream change to g-c-c15:12
seb128to change the color-scheme gsettings key when picking a theme varian15:12
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-tracking-bug-tasks.html15:14
seb128those are assigned15:14
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ii-incoming-bug-tasks.html15:14
seb128no desktop entry15:14
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ii-tracking-bug-tasks.html15:15
seb128nothing new there15:15
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html15:15
seb128no desktop entry15:15
seb128 http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html15:15
seb128nothing new15:16
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html15:16
seb128no desktop entry15:16
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html15:16
seb128nothing new there15:17
seb128and that's it for this week15:17
seb128Trevinho, thanks for participating in the review :)15:17
Trevinho:)15:17
GunnarHjThere is an Ubuntu specific "Recommends: sane-airscan" in sane-backends. Wouldn't that be useful on Debian as well, i.e. shouldn't we propose that Recommends to Debian so we can start sync'ing again?15:20
GunnarHjAnticipating a "yes" to the question I asked, I filed https://bugs.debian.org/1005817 .16:08
ubottuDebian bug 1005817 in libsane1 "Please recommend sane-airscan" [Normal, Open]16:08
GunnarHjseb128, jbicha: Which version of gnome-user-docs should we ship with 22.04? I'm thinking that if we stay with version 41 of g-c-c, version 41 of the docs may be best suited. Unless there is are important docs affecting changes to gnome-shell itself. Thoughts?16:14
jbichaGunnarHj: I don't know: there aren't any 42 docs yet :) :)16:21
jbichaif you like video calls, you could ask Shaun in about 40 minutes https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-doc-list/2022-February/msg00004.html16:22
GunnarHjjbicha: Right, I'm aware of that meeting. Will ask Shaun there.16:24
GunnarHjjbicha: Is it finally decided that we'll stay with g-c-c v. 41?16:25
jbichathe docs series is a hard question today because most people haven't seen GNOME 42 yet to know what to write about16:26
GunnarHjjbicha: So I'm asking about it prematurely?16:27
jbichayes, I think so. gnome-control-center 42 Beta wasn't released yet & that's a big part of the docs16:28
jbichawe are sticking with gnome-control-center 41 because the new version switches to gtk4 and it's a very large change there16:29
GunnarHjjbicha: The latter was the point I tried to make.16:30
jbichamy guess is that the 41 docs will be good enough. now that GNOME has a longer support cycle some docs improvements could still be backported there16:32
GunnarHjYeah, that's my feeling too. And cherry picking docs contents would be too cumbersome due to translations.16:33
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GunnarHjjbicha: Shaun confirmed that staying with the 41 docs in 22.04 is probably the most sensible choice.17:19
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GunnarHjjbicha: Thanks for your help with fonts-ubuntu. :)19:41
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