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lubot[telegram] <teward001> in our opinion: is the current infrastructure as set up for Lubuntu's devel, hosting, CI, etc. all suitable or do we need to start hunting for a larger more robust solution that will cost more monthly?  Basically asking if I should be hunting new infra for us (I have no idea if/when alitspeed will shut the Lubuntu DO node down)01:01
lubot[telegram] <N0um3n0> I don't know exactly what the infrastructure is like.  but we do not have a solution for translations due to lack of resources.  I do not know the contributions of money that have been made and if it is possible to maintain something more expensive.01:10
lubot[telegram] <teward001> i'm sure i can cover 50% of a dedicated server with a massive load of RAM and space.  just gonna be like $100/month out of the coffers01:12
lubot[telegram] <teward001> but that also requires a yearly commitment,  but yes we probably can do it if i split01:13
lubot[telegram] <teward001> which will ALSO let me move stuff off *my* infra too01:13
lubot[telegram] <teward001> oooooooooo and VCenter!  good so we can have dedicated VMs rather than containers inside a virtual host01:13
lubot[telegram] <N0um3n0> Split? (re @teward001: but that also requires a yearly commitment,  but yes we probably can do it if i split)01:14
lubot[telegram] <teward001> @N0um3n0 half the monthly cost out of my pocket (tax deductible!) and half out of the Lubuntu coffers01:15
lubot[telegram] <teward001> it'll take 72 hours to get infra staged but ye.01:15
lubot[telegram] <teward001> 64GB RAM anyone?  (i'm not talking like a droplet and virtual hosting, i'm talking a dedicated server LOL)01:16
lubot[telegram] <teward001> but ye just wanted to get everyone's opinions on whether we need power01:16
lubot[telegram] <N0um3n0> Wow!!! (re @teward001: @N0um3n0 half the monthly cost out of my pocket (tax deductible!) and half out of the Lubuntu funds)01:16
lubot[telegram] <teward001> ye and this is DDoS protected too.  I mean, OVH is meh but still01:22
lubot[telegram] <teward001> dedicated server means chaos levels of security heheheh01:22
lubot[telegram] <teward001> (and yes i'll take a small slice for one of my applications that needs faster speed than this system here does, but we're talking like 100GB and 4GB RAM out of 64 so :P)01:23
lubot[telegram] <teward001> (4x1TB HDD Softraid so not *speedy* disk but)01:25
lubot[telegram] <lynorian> will all of the urls I push to stay the same?02:17
lubot[telegram] <teward001> ye but the IPs won't.  :P02:19
lubot[telegram] <Leokolb> Speaking of funds ..how much do we now have? Donation spreadsheet not updated almost 2 years.02:20
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> That sounds like a good infrastructure setup. Another thing we need to consider is git hosting, task management and our wiki. We could break each of those out or keep them all together, I'm not sure what is best.02:35
lubot[telegram] <teward001> we'd keep them all at the same infrastructure but different VMs or containers.  Getting the massive infra is probably the first step.18:00
lubot[telegram] <teward001> git is easy, task management is harder, wiki is easy18:01
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> I agree with all of that, I just didn't want to lose sight of it.18:11
lubot[telegram] <aptghetto> I think Jenkins could be shutdown as there is nobody maintaining it. Less attack surface, less maintenance burden and less costs.19:23
lubot[telegram] <teward001> i don't have a problem with that.19:58
lubot[telegram] <teward001> but we'd lose how our systems currently update/test packages19:58
lubot[telegram] <teward001> which is why Jenkins exists19:58
lubot[telegram] <teward001> if we ditch jenkins though, $110/month for a 6 month contract with 32GB of RAM and 2x4TB HDD in softraid would be available.  We could still do containerization like we've done, but we'd have VASTLY more resources20:03
lubot[telegram] <teward001> and I can dump all the stuff on my infra for Lubuntu off to this new server.20:03
lubot[telegram] <teward001> if we pursue this, of course.20:03
lubot[telegram] <teward001> this would outclass the entire infra that we have currently though, so.  :P20:04
lubot[telegram] <teward001> i'd just have to move some stuff around between servers to make it all function, but i'd rather ditch DO if we can and free up space on my own infra :P20:05
lubot[telegram] <teward001> (since my own infra here is running out of compute)20:05
lubot[telegram] <teward001> (saves $97 on installation costs though)20:06
lubot[telegram] <teward001> but i want to see if we *need* the infra before I pull the trigger and start pulling money into this20:08
lubot[telegram] <teward001> either way, altispeed was doing us a solid with the DO droplet.20:12
lubot[telegram] <teward001> but again, I can't guarantee they won't yoink it20:12
lubot[telegram] <teward001> and we'll be without primary infra20:12
lubot[telegram] <teward001> (that means Phab, Discourse, etc. all go away if the DO node goes byebye)20:13
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> I'm in favor of moving and if possible adding some translations, especially for the manual.21:05
lubot[telegram] <lynorian> I feel trnaslations of the manual are one of the places it is weakest but I don't quite know how translation things work as I am unforatnelty monolingual21:06
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Same here. I think it is something folks could benefit from though.21:06

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