| Chunkyz | sarnold, don't ask me how or why lol but... had to disable secure boot, enable legacy boot then boot from uefi and it installed. weird. | 00:21 |
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| Chunkyz | Client: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: Ubuntu "impish" 21.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6500T CPU @ 2.50GHz (2.50GHz) • Memory: Physical: 15.1 GiB Total (14.7 GiB Free) Swap: 3.9 GiB Total (3.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 1.2 TB / 3.1 TB (2.0 TB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 @ Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 11m 18s | 00:22 |
| Chunkyz | but I'm getting weird screen tearing. :-( | 00:22 |
| jhutchins | Chunkyz: Not much surprise there, SecureBoot was developed to prevent people from booting to other media, specifically to prevent people from installing Linux. | 00:22 |
| sarnold | Chunkyz: that's a crazy series of things to try :) heh | 00:22 |
| oerheks | give more memory to your integrated intel thing | 00:23 |
| Chunkyz | oh, nevermind! fixed it. :-) | 00:25 |
| Chunkyz | it works now though, that's the main thing :-) looking forward to the next LTS! thanks guys. :-) | 00:26 |
| cbreak | ubuntu should have boot loaders that are signed by microsoft, which might be compatible with secure boot | 00:26 |
| cbreak | but I've never used them, maybe it doesn't work | 00:27 |
| oerheks | secure boot works fine, unless you want nvidia drivers | 00:29 |
| sarnold | oh? I thougth we signed those, too | 00:29 |
| Chunkyz | I installed everything through the server install, no more lubuntu/xubuntu loading screens! | 00:30 |
| Chunkyz | happy customer! thanks for the support. :-) | 00:30 |
| toddc | that explans why I have to turn off secureboot on some installs | 00:35 |
| sarnold | you install a lot of twelve year old software? | 00:35 |
| toddc | I usually try all uefi and secureboot first then turn off secureboot if install fails it also seens to help if I use ubunt startup disk creator on a uefi machine no idea why | 00:38 |
| Chunkyz | will upgrading from 21.10 to 22.04 break things? | 00:44 |
| Bashing-om | !22.04 | Chunkyz | 00:54 |
| ubottu | Chunkyz: Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) will be the 36th release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release April 2022 (https://ubottu.com/y/jj). Join #ubuntu-next for support and questions. | 00:54 |
| Chunkyz | Bashing-om: ?? | 01:14 |
| Chunkyz | Why tag me in that 🤔 | 01:15 |
| cluelessperson | Chunkyz, you there? | 01:16 |
| cluelessperson | Chunkyz, on debian, I recall running into an issue where some motherboards were not friendly with NVME installs and I had to specifically manually configure the ... what's it called. bootloader install on the correct drive. | 01:16 |
| goddard | any note apps for linux that have spell checking because my spelling and grammer some time is lacking | 01:19 |
| goddard | just like that message | 01:19 |
| goddard | haha | 01:19 |
| cluelessperson | goddard, I use web based tools, like google keep. | 01:20 |
| Bashing-om | Chunkyz: Sorry to be unclear - inquiries about 22.04 go to #ubuntu-next channel - better eyes there :D | 01:20 |
| goddard | cluelessperson: alrighty | 01:25 |
| snowhawk | hi | 01:44 |
| ke4nhw | I have a question. I am having to consider another distribution for a business environment: my stepson is going to start a small business, an RV park. He will be providing internet (both wifi and wired) to his clients. So I need a rock-solid Linux distro for servers: host and vm. How much is it likely to cost to do this with Ubuntu, and is Ubuntu capable of doing such work (I prefer kvm for | 02:18 |
| ke4nhw | virtuals). | 02:18 |
| sarnold | heya ke4nhw :) you can use ubuntu lts for free if you wish | 02:18 |
| ke4nhw | ubunbu lts? | 02:19 |
| ke4nhw | Is that a lightweight version of ubuntu? | 02:19 |
| sarnold | ke4nhw: ubuntu is released every six months, and most are supported for nine months. every two years, in april, there's a new "long term support" release that has five years support, with an additional five years of "esm" support available for subscription.. | 02:19 |
| sarnold | ke4nhw: the vast majority of people run the LTS releases, since they get the most bug fixing focus, the most third-party application support, and are pretty predictable | 02:20 |
| ke4nhw | so it would have a life cycle similar to Fedora, based on subscription? | 02:21 |
| ke4nhw | Or does the subscription just extend the life cycle from 5 to 10 years? | 02:21 |
| ke4nhw | And what is esm support? | 02:22 |
| sarnold | sorry :) I've been stuck in the jargon for so long.. | 02:22 |
| ke4nhw | That's okay lol | 02:22 |
| sarnold | esm == extended security (and?) maintenance -- it's mostly security support after the free basic support ends, yeah | 02:23 |
| sarnold | it's not *exactly* for money, you can get three machines of esm for free, https://ubuntu.com/advantage | 02:23 |
| sarnold | but if you're talking a dozen machines, or a dozen VMs, and you want them to still get security support after five years, it'll cost a bit per machine, yeah | 02:24 |
| ke4nhw | So I can 5 years for free, then either upgrade or subscribe to continue support for the current version? | 02:24 |
| ke4nhw | Probably not a dozen, but I'd expect at least half a dozen... | 02:24 |
| sarnold | quite a lot of folks will just upgrade every two years, and either run the newest LTS release, or the "previous LTS" release | 02:24 |
| sarnold | but a lot of businesses run on slower cycles than that :) | 02:25 |
| oops | i install kodi on my ubutun20.04 from repository, it prompt "Err:1 http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/universe amd64 libfstrcmp0 amd64 0.7.D001-1.1build1 | 02:31 |
| oops | Connection failed [IP: 91.189.91.38 80] | 02:31 |
| oops | " ,the ip can ping through ,and i search that package on pkg.org , it display none exist | 02:31 |
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| sarnold | oops: that's strange -- you're the first to report problems here, I can't spot anything that looks out of hte ordinary .. is it still a problem? | 02:34 |
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| Bashing-om | oops: libfstrcmp0 in package: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/kodi-gbm . | 02:38 |
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| ke4nhw | So every two years ubuntu releases a version that is supported, without cost, completely, for 5 years? This means I could, depending on his needs, go 4 years between major upgrades? | 02:39 |
| sarnold | ke4nhw: yeah, pretty much | 02:42 |
| ke4nhw | 4 years would be an acceptable cycle. So, does the long term support, the two year model, just run behind the 6 month distribution? Is this similar to Fedora/Centos/RedHat layout, where Fedora updates frequently, yet by time it distills down to RedHat it's running slightly behind, but it's much more stable since it's tested by that point? | 02:43 |
| sarnold | ke4nhw: I've got a 16.04 VM, two 18.04 machines, three 20.04 machines; the 16.04 is on a free ESM plan, the others are still in standard support. one of these days I'll re-standardize everything, probably a bit after 22.04 is out | 02:44 |
| sarnold | ke4nhw: the LTS releases are cut from the exactly the same stream of packages as the "interim" releases -- the development release is constantly importing packages from debian unstable, until some point in the release cycle that process is stopped | 02:45 |
| sarnold | ke4nhw: debian unstable still keeps churning along at whatever rate it churns at, in the meantime | 02:45 |
| ke4nhw | So Debian is an unstable distribution, or is 'debian unstable' a testbed platform, similar to Fedora? Is Debian the testbed for Ubuntu, or is it a separate distro altogether? | 02:49 |
| sarnold | debian is a separate distribution altogether; debian unstable is a bit like a rolling release, every year or two or three they stablize for a bit and focus on interoperability and bug fixes and so on and then make a new stable release, and then go back to uploading new versions of packages to unstable whenever it's convenient | 02:52 |
| sarnold | ubuntu builds on the unstable releases, and puts some predictability to the releases -- every six months -- with the intention of trying to make sure the changes along the way make sense together, that upstream application authors get feedback from releases more often, etc | 02:53 |
| sarnold | so, ubuntu does some 'real world' testing of packages before those packages are released in a debian stable | 02:53 |
| ke4nhw | Okay, so Ubuntu LTS, and Debian, are both end products, similar to RHEL, therefore stable? | 03:00 |
| sarnold | that's the idea, yeah | 03:01 |
| Guest83 | I was curious if anyone knew of a software to increase the volume past 100% | 04:28 |
| Guest83 | I had one before but I have forgot the name of it | 04:28 |
| Guest83 | It let me increase the volumes on firefox and other software individually | 04:28 |
| ke4nhw | I don't know about software, but you can't go wrong with having a home theater system with huge ass speakers attached to your computer | 04:41 |
| ke4nhw | Always been my fave solution | 04:41 |
| yrdsb | want to install kde | 04:53 |
| yrdsb | do sudo -rf -rm --no-preserve-root | 04:53 |
| yrdsb | sudo -rf -rm --no-preserve-root for kde | 04:54 |
| KBar | yrdsb: no, this will destroy your current system and all files on it | 04:56 |
| yrdsb | [11:54:19 PM] <yrdsb> sudo -rf -rm --no-preserve-root for kde | 04:56 |
| yrdsb | [11:56:23 PM] <KBar> yrdsb: no, this will destroy your current system and all files on it | 04:56 |
| yrdsb | no it wil lgive kds | 04:56 |
| KBar | yrdsb: try KDE in a Live session first, or install it in a VM | 04:57 |
| yrdsb | want kde | 04:57 |
| yrdsb | do sudo -rf -rm /* | 04:57 |
| adderall | Does anyone know how to get around system hangs at boot caused by snap loading too slow? | 04:59 |
| adderall | Apparently it's a bug but there has to be some way to circumvent or patch it. | 04:59 |
| KBar | adderall: i dont think theres anything other than reducing the number of snaps? | 05:00 |
| ke4nhw | Literally the most dangerous command in Linux, by reversing the command and switch | 05:00 |
| adderall | ke4nhw: are you talkin' to me or is that a reference to something else before I logged in? | 05:02 |
| ke4nhw | before you logged in, sorry | 05:03 |
| adderall | Yeah, I can even find the process causing it to hang | 05:03 |
| adderall | ... Looks like it's the full snap directory doing this | 05:04 |
| adderall | Could just disable snap at boot | 05:04 |
| ke4nhw | I don't know enough about ubuntu to even hazard a guess. | 05:04 |
| adderall | Well, the snap issue isn't just an Ubuntu thing. You can install snap on any linux | 05:06 |
| adderall | It just makes it easier to install certain packages and I find that with snap, the icons and gui features are nicer. But it does slow things down considerably | 05:07 |
| ke4nhw | Holy mother of God, I am seeing things in the Ubuntu pricing list in the $200,000/yr price range???? Um, yeah, ubuntu might just be too rich for my blood | 05:07 |
| ke4nhw | I haven't heard of it, and doesn't sound like I want to try it lol | 05:08 |
| KBar | ? Ubuntu is 100% free. | 05:08 |
| ke4nhw | I was looking at things under the enterprise/business pages | 05:08 |
| adderall | I'm not even sure what that means: Ubuntu is not free ... it's open source and free to install. This gets into the political arguments of what free software is, relating to GNU and Richard Stallman | 05:09 |
| adderall | I'm going to say it's free as in it doesn't cost $120, as compared to Windows | 05:09 |
| KBar | adderall: regardless of what he thinks, it's absolutely free in both meanings | 05:09 |
| adderall | I agree with KBar | 05:09 |
| KBar | you can get it for exactly 0 cents and do whatever you want with it | 05:09 |
| adderall | It's free enough. You don't have to pay for it. It used to come with Amazon on the desktop but Canonical quit doing that. | 05:10 |
| ke4nhw | And one reason I am considering ubuntu is for a busisness. Not mine, my stepson, it'll be a small business, but I don't need him getting hit with a "you're using this in a place that makes money so it violates the license agreement". Literally the same thing I nearly walked into before now | 05:10 |
| KBar | get rid of most the packages, install something else, etc. | 05:10 |
| adderall | What country are you in, ke4nhw? Just curious as it's very rare for business owners to use Linux in the U.S. | 05:10 |
| adderall | I'm interested in the idea of that! Very cool | 05:10 |
| adderall | It's mostly just used for servers here | 05:10 |
| ke4nhw | My idea of free is "can I use this at home, in a small business, or whatever, free of charge, without having a massive lawsuit. I'm here in the US, and this is for servers. | 05:11 |
| KBar | adderall: i heard ts pretty popular in SEA for kiosks? | 05:11 |
| adderall | Yep, haha, it's free | 05:11 |
| adderall | I'm sure it's used for cash registers in the U.S. | 05:11 |
| ke4nhw | He'll be using Windows on his desk of course, but backend stuff will be on Linux servers. | 05:11 |
| adderall | I noticed at Target that they were running Linux on the registers. I got super excited. My wife and father-in-law didn't care though, LOL | 05:11 |
| KBar | this is getting off-topic, lets maybe continue this on #ubuntu-discuss? | 05:12 |
| adderall | Yeah, OK ... | 05:12 |
| adderall | I can move to that chat. I'm not auto-joined to it, but I'm OK with that | 05:12 |
| ke4nhw | I'll be there in about 10 minutes, I'm getting pummeled by bad weather, the radar is only just starting to settle down, so I want to get a better look at what I'm getting before I talk to the folks at national weather service | 05:14 |
| ke4nhw | Okay, think I'm in the clear | 05:16 |
| ke4nhw | they dropped the warnings | 05:17 |
| ke4nhw | But no my concern was whether ubuntu can be used free in a business environment, something the website isn't entirely clear about. when I do look under the enterprise side of the website, I see links to pricing, and some of those numbers, especially under devices, climb way past my happy place. I'll keep digging though. | 05:19 |
| oops | when using kodi play iptv or videos , it has only sound and no video image, how to fix it , my os is ubuntu20.04 | 06:15 |
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| foehammer | hello everyone, how are yall | 07:00 |
| KBar | foehammer: hi. How can we help you? | 07:01 |
| foehammer | I am ok, no help needed, this is just my default channel to load into | 07:03 |
| KBar | foehammer: alright. Keep in mind that this channel is for Ubuntu supported. You're expected to ask questions, so. | 07:06 |
| KBar | foehammer: for chit chat, visit appropriate channels like #ubuntu-offtopic | 07:06 |
| squid_game | How can I reset all the network settings including virtual interface definitions such as vlan etc? I tried systemctl stop network-manager and networking services but it didn't help | 07:19 |
| KBar | squid_game: `apt purge` `apt install`? | 07:20 |
| squid_game | KBar, do you mean to reinstall networking service? | 07:22 |
| KBar | squid_game: depends on what exactly you changed | 07:23 |
| squid_game | it's not specific to my laptop. I tried in different laptops, I get the same issue. | 07:23 |
| squid_game | KBar, is there another method that I can restart/reset all the networking interfaces and settings, as fresh as restarting the laptop? | 07:24 |
| KBar | squid_game: `iptables -F`? | 07:27 |
| squid_game | KBar, I tried as well, but didn't help. AFAIK, it is to refresh the ip rules, doesn't effect the interfaces | 07:28 |
| KBar | squid_game: then just `systemctl restart` | 07:29 |
| squid_game | KBar, systemctl restart "what service"? It's also my question :) | 07:31 |
| KBar | squid_game: depending on what you have. it's network-manager by default | 07:31 |
| KBar | squid_game: so it would be NetworkManager.service | 07:32 |
| KBar | i dont know what your computer has | 07:32 |
| KBar | if its a server or a desktop | 07:32 |
| squid_game | I have ubuntu 18.04 desktop | 07:32 |
| squid_game | I tried all the network* services. I have 3 of them, it didn't help. | 07:33 |
| KBar | squid_game: try the one starting with a capital N | 07:33 |
| squid_game | do you know another method or another service that might work? | 07:33 |
| KBar | NetworkManager.service | 07:33 |
| squid_game | I don't have it. I only have networkd-dispatcher.service network-manager.service network-pre.target networking.service network-online.target network.target | 07:34 |
| squid_game | I tried all the *.services | 07:34 |
| KBar | Yeah, you probably did something wrong on your system then. It should be there. | 07:34 |
| KBar | squid_game: can you verify that? `systemctl list-units --all` and then search for 'NetworkManager.service' | 07:36 |
| squid_game | KBar, I am using a work latop. AFAIK, we use a modified ubuntu by Canonical. Perhaps they removed some of the services. Yes, I don't have NetworkManager.service | 07:37 |
| KBar | squid_game: how about systemd-networkd.service? | 07:38 |
| squid_game | if I stop the *.services, it disables the connectivity. But the interfaces, IP addresses etc are still there | 07:38 |
| squid_game | I have systemd-networkd.service | 07:39 |
| squid_game | I will try it and will probably be disconnected | 07:39 |
| squid_game | thanks for the help | 07:39 |
| KBar | squid_game: `systemctl reload systemd-networkd.service` | 07:39 |
| armadefuego | @squid_game. did you get what you need? | 07:40 |
| squid_game | Failed to reload systemd-networkd.service: Job type reload is not applicable for unit systemd-networkd.service | 07:40 |
| squid_game | armadefuego, no. Is there any chance you might have a suggestion? | 07:41 |
| armadefuego | well i am trying to follw, but i may have gotten on the wrong foot. | 07:41 |
| squid_game | armadefuego, what I want to have is to refresh all the network settings, interfaces etc. | 07:41 |
| armadefuego | are you just trying to restart all the connections, like on reboot, or not have the connections you _currently_ have | 07:42 |
| armadefuego | ( which would reconnect on reboot... if you didn't remove them | 07:43 |
| squid_game | armadefuego. I'd appreciate any suggestion :) What I'm trying to refresh all the network settings. As an example, I time to run scripts that configures network interfaces, such as creating vlans and assigns ip addresses etc. I'd like to reset everything so that I get a fresh network settings so that I'd not need to restart my laptop to reset the configurations | 07:44 |
| squid_game | yes, I'd like to restart the network interface&settings similar to what a reboot would do | 07:45 |
| armadefuego | but you also _expect_ to set them up again? | 07:46 |
| squid_game | no | 07:54 |
| squid_game | I want a fresh start | 07:54 |
| armadefuego | ok. The GUI has buttons to shut them off. or the commandline has nmcli... IIRC | 07:55 |
| armadefuego | either could shut down a connection, for temp purposes. then click and it reconnects | 07:56 |
| squid_game | armadefuego, do you know if I can do it on the terminal? Then I'd use it part of a bash script | 07:58 |
| armadefuego | nmcli connection show | 07:58 |
| armadefuego | nmcli is justone method to shutdown a connectio, and restart. | 08:00 |
| squid_game | interesting. I didn't know it. I am going to investigate it | 08:01 |
| armadefuego | its got a decent man page. | 08:02 |
| armadefuego | and the _ip_ command can be usefull here. | 08:02 |
| squid_game | thank you for the tip, I will investigate it | 08:03 |
| armadefuego | NP. Anything else? | 08:04 |
| b247_eu | hello, I've compiled a software (remmina) in /opt/remmina, this folder contains the "share" folder (icons, mime, etc), /opt/remmina/share; how can I make this folder awailable system wide (eg access remmina from Gnome and add to favorites) ? shall a symlink be made or copy/append the /opt/remmina/share folder to /usr/share | 08:14 |
| armadefuego | XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/ubuntu:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/:/var/lib/snapd/desktop? | 08:28 |
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| frost-core | hello! | 09:40 |
| frost-core | why does this error happen http://paste.debian.net/1231364/ | 09:40 |
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| Mitacho | Hey guys! I posted a question related to my USB microphone on askubuntu. It seems Ubuntu thinks my USB microphone is a keyboard. Can someone help me ? Thank you very much. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1393594/usb-microphone-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-21-10 | 10:09 |
| BlackMage | how i install libtiff4 and libpng12-0 on Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS? | 11:33 |
| wseadmin | Hi all, I seem to have a weird installation image. I confirmed by using it twice, that the default, "Wipe drive and install" puts GRUB on the USB. | 11:34 |
| wseadmin | How do I get it to install GRUB on the hard drive, so that I can remove the USB? | 11:35 |
| Maik | BlackMage: why do you want older versions of those? | 11:35 |
| wseadmin | The machine is in use, so ideally, I would like to do it via CLI. | 11:35 |
| Maik | libtiff5 and libpng16 are in the repos of 20.04.3 | 11:36 |
| BlackMage | Unable to locate package libpng16 | 11:37 |
| Maik | apt search libpng | 11:37 |
| Maik | libpng16-16/focal,now 1.6.37-2 amd64 | 11:38 |
| Maik | should be install by default already BlackMage | 11:38 |
| Maik | install/installed | 11:38 |
| BlackMage | why is it called that? | 11:38 |
| Maik | don't ask me | 11:39 |
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| darkarmy | hellp | 11:50 |
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| blacked | what ubuntu think about GNU guix or if NONGUIX or NIXos doing things? | 12:02 |
| Ravage | i dont think ubuntu thinks anything. its not alive. | 12:03 |
| blacked | *ubuntu core developers, *ubuntu company peoples who made ubuntu things | 12:03 |
| Ravage | if you have an Ubuntu support question ask it. if not you can use #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss | 12:04 |
| blacked | ok it is also ubuntu support, but not for the ubuntu :( | 12:04 |
| Maik | opinions are not support question | 12:05 |
| blacked | ok i'm there thank you , | 12:05 |
| blacked | but it was just simple question, it would be great if ubuntu adopt guix/non-guix way of doing things? ok | 12:06 |
| Maik | feel free to continue with the discussion in -discuss or -offtopic blacked | 12:07 |
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| wseadmin|afk-ish | Getting very lost with trying to format a partition and get GRUB installed on it via CLI and can't get the tightvncserver service to restart either. | 12:11 |
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| bodhi | I am using zsh on my ubuntu. I wanted to base64 encode a cert and because it conatins new lines the encoding is not what is expected it seems. I googled and found various solutions to avoid this. But I wanted to discuss here how people like to do it. stackoverflow is not always the right canonical way of doing it right | 12:24 |
| osse | bodhi: how do you do it now? | 12:27 |
| bodhi | base64encode.org is one quick way for anything that is not a "secret". (like examples I publish in public repos). for actually deployments. https://superuser.com/questions/1225134/why-does-the-base64-of-a-string-contain-n | 12:34 |
| Aethereal | Is someone able to help me with a potentially broke 20.04? It doesn't start the graphic environment anymore (it did in the past) but X logs doesn't show any EE line. Already tried all possible solutions I found through google | 12:55 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | Aethereal CTRL + ALT + F2 to F6 then sudo apt install --reinstall blah-desktop | 13:04 |
| EriC^^ | Aethereal: if you create another account does that start? | 13:06 |
| chilversc | is there a web page somewhere that lists the current hwe kernel available for each release? | 13:07 |
| Aethereal | wseadmin|afk-ish already tried that, reinstalling gnome-desktop, but with no result | 13:12 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | Aethereal: Try a different desktop or reinstall your display manager? sddm, lightdm, gdm3, etc? | 13:13 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | chilversc: Careful with that, I manually installed a kernel and tortured my drive. | 13:14 |
| chilversc | hwe should avoid that issue as they're backported specifically for ubuntu | 13:17 |
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| Ravage | chilversc: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=linux-tools-generic-hwe | 13:22 |
| Ravage | or better https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all§ion=all&arch=any&keywords=linux-image-generic-hwe&searchon=names | 13:22 |
| plon | raspberry is faster than windows10 | 13:23 |
| plon | raspberry ubuntu | 13:23 |
| Ravage | plon: do you have a ubuntu support question? | 13:24 |
| plon | is there a method to enable the cpu faster | 13:25 |
| Ravage | not within Ubuntu. google overclocking | 13:26 |
| Aethereal | wseadmin|afk-ish I also tried a reconfigure of gdm3 too, still same result. If I try a startx from shell it just throw out some lines about starting up, then exit without errors, like it just finished. | 13:26 |
| plon | google overclocking | 13:26 |
| Maik | plon: ubuntu works fine on a Pi 4 with 4 or 8 GB RAM without overclocking | 13:32 |
| Aethereal | wseadmin|afk-ish I think it all started when I tried to install waydroid following these instructions: https://docs.waydro.id/usage/install-on-desktops Since it was not working I then removed it and the repo. I thought the uninstall could have removed too much so I tried, as told before, to do a reinstall of X and desktop packages, but nothing | 13:32 |
| Aethereal | works. Instead of a login screen I get a blank screen with a blinking cursor, and need to ALT-F2 to get a shell | 13:32 |
| ioria | Aethereal, how did you reinstall X and -desktop pkgs ? | 13:33 |
| Aethereal | ioria I used sudo apt install --reinstall xserver-xorg and sudo apt install --reinstall gnome-desktop if I recall correctly (I'm after this issue since a month now) | 13:37 |
| ioria | !ingo gnome-desktop | 13:38 |
| ioria | !info gnome-desktop | 13:38 |
| ubottu | Package gnome-desktop does not exist in impish | 13:38 |
| ioria | Aethereal, what release ? 20.04 ? | 13:38 |
| Aethereal | ioria The machine is currently 20.04, but it started as a 16.04->18.04->20.04 | 13:40 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 13:40 |
| ioria | Aethereal, so it's Ubuntu , not Kubuntu or another flavor ? | 13:41 |
| Aethereal | ioria Yes, vanilla Ubuntu | 13:41 |
| Maik | shouldn't gnome-desktop be ubuntu-desktop when reinstalling? | 13:42 |
| ioria | Aethereal, sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop^ ( <-- note the caret ^) | 13:42 |
| Aethereal | ioria 1306 reinstalls, 0 deletions and 0 new... it will take a bit though, my connection isn't so fast and it's downloading everything as it were new | 13:46 |
| ioria | i see | 13:46 |
| Aethereal | ioria what's the caret meaning? I've never seen it | 13:48 |
| ioria | Aethereal, it's a set of packages | 13:49 |
| Aethereal | ioria I see, like @name in Gentoo emerge | 13:51 |
| ioria | Aethereal, yeah, probably | 13:52 |
| ioria | Aethereal, i suggest anyhow to purge/remove that waydoid | 13:52 |
| Aethereal | ioria Yes, I already did that. I have this issue since I removed it... | 13:53 |
| ioria | ok | 13:54 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | Aethereal: If you /home is in its own logical partition, then you can just reinstall your boot partition. | 13:55 |
| Aethereal | wseadmin|afk-ish Unfortunately it's a whole partition. It's also fully encrypted (I enter a key to unlock the disk at boot. Ironically, at that point the machine is in graphic mode) | 13:58 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | So, the answer to my question might be: " ssh -X <IP-Address> " then " sudo gparted /dev/sda " followed by " sudo grub-install /dev/sda1 " | 13:59 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | Aethereal:Use " scp " to backup important stuff to another device. | 14:00 |
| chilversc | Ravage: thanks | 14:01 |
| chilversc | any plans to backport kernel 5.16 to 20.04? | 14:02 |
| ThinkT510 | !hwe | 14:04 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 14:04 |
| chilversc | ThinkT510: I was looking at that page but couldn't tell what the final supported kernel version will be for 20.04, or what the release schedule is | 14:06 |
| ThinkT510 | I'm not sure of 22.04's kernel version | 14:07 |
| ThinkT510 | if you really need 5.16 then you could try mainline | 14:07 |
| ThinkT510 | !mainline | 14:07 |
| ubottu | The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds | 14:07 |
| chilversc | at the moment I'm running 20.04, but getting a kernel panic and wanted to see if it was fixed in a newer kernel such as 5.16 | 14:07 |
| chilversc | is mainline separate to the HWE builds? | 14:08 |
| ogra | the mainline PPA kernels are not for production use and miss a lot of features | 14:08 |
| ThinkT510 | mainline is mostly for testing | 14:08 |
| ogra | yep | 14:08 |
| Aethereal | wseadmin|afk-ish It's a bit complicated since I might have some data/caches outside /home but indeed an option. It's a last-resort, and I would like to try fixing it first. I might even try to see if an upgrade to 22.04 (when it's available) would work before that. Also, the desktop reinstall ioria suggested is still at 47%, I still have hopes... | 14:08 |
| ogra | to verify bugfixes if some kernel team member asks you to ... | 14:09 |
| trafficjam | how much "graphics memory" does this cpu have? i7-1065G7 | 14:10 |
| trafficjam | using wine and an installer is asking for this | 14:11 |
| chilversc | yup, that's why I was more interested in the hwe builds than mainline | 14:11 |
| chilversc | I was just wondering what the plan was for 20.04 as currently the latest kernel is 2.13 | 14:12 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | Isn't it 5.15 now? | 14:13 |
| chilversc | not according to https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/linux-tools-generic-hwe-20.04 unless I'm reading it wrong? | 14:13 |
| Ravage | It's 5.13. it will probably get 5.15 a few weeks/months after the 22.04 release | 14:13 |
| Ravage | Not sure what the usual timeline is. 5.13 came pretty fast after 21.10 | 14:14 |
| chilversc | ah well, maybe I just need to try replacing mdadm with zfs | 14:16 |
| alkisg | I think it comes out after 22.04.1, not after 22.04. So, in August. | 14:18 |
| chilversc | yup, that's rather too long to wait, though not even sure if it will fix the issue | 14:18 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | chilversc: Don't use ZFS if you game. Steam has been a complete ball ache for some reason. I think the scrub tool isn't used to the weird format of game packages. | 14:18 |
| Ravage | My steam Library runs completely from ZFS. No problems at all | 14:19 |
| chilversc | this file system is only used to store cachefilesd | 14:19 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | You don't have to Verify games after it performs a scrub? | 14:19 |
| trafficjam | is it possible to use windows 10/11 for Wine? | 14:19 |
| chilversc | some combination of access patterns between cachefilesd, and mdadm seems to be causing a kernel panic | 14:20 |
| Ravage | I think sometimes it checks some files. But never a complete verify | 14:20 |
| Ravage | Nothing that really bothers me | 14:20 |
| Ravage | trafficjam: that question does not make a lot of sense | 14:21 |
| Ravage | And that's being polite about it :P | 14:21 |
| trafficjam | Ravage: im trying to run a program with Wine, and it told me that windowx xp and windows 32-bit are no longer supported | 14:22 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | trafficjam: Try winecfg and see your options there. | 14:23 |
| Ravage | I'm pretty sure there is a maintained 32 bit version of wine | 14:23 |
| trafficjam | wseadmin|afk-ish: ah perfect, thanks man | 14:23 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | You might also want to use " WINEPREFIX=/location/of/install/ winecfg " | 14:24 |
| Ravage | Also try https://www.winehq.org/irc | 14:25 |
| leftyfb | trafficjam: you want #winehq | 14:28 |
| Aethereal | ioria The reinstall finished, but nothing has changed | 14:28 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | It didn't work. "install-grub" returned no errors, still can't boot without the USB plugged in. Accidental security key but annoying. | 14:40 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | Especially since this happened before years ago and I can't remember nor find my documentation on how to solve it. | 14:40 |
| tomreyn | wseadmin|afk-ish: do you want to sum up the problem you're trying to solve again? I had a quick glance on the log but could not exactly understand which problem you're trying to solve. | 14:42 |
| ioria | Aethereal, switch to tty and sudo systemctl restart gdm | 14:44 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | Hi tomreyn . I installed Ubuntu, all appeared to be fine, except it installed the boot information for the hard drive over the boot partitions of the USB stick. | 14:44 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | Now I am trying to get it to boot from partition(s) sda1 and sda2. | 14:45 |
| tomreyn | wseadmin|afk-ish: hmm, that's not a problem i've run into before. which ubuntu release + ISO are you installing, and in bios or uefi mode? | 14:45 |
| frost-core | hello! | 14:46 |
| frost-core | so im trying to make a custom bash prompt | 14:46 |
| frost-core | but i need colours | 14:46 |
| frost-core | how do i input them in? | 14:46 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | ubuntu-18.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso (because FreeRDP v2 doesn't work well with NTLM auth Windows servers). | 14:47 |
| leftyfb | frost-core: what have you found online so far and what problems are you having with it? | 14:47 |
| frost-core | leftyfb : i found not understandable guides | 14:48 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | How do I check bios / EFI mode via CLI? The machine is in use, I have SSH only atm. | 14:48 |
| frost-core | all of them are complicated | 14:48 |
| Aethereal | ioria sudo systemctl restart gdm just gives me back the blank screen with blinking underscore | 14:48 |
| leftyfb | frost-core: https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-unix-bash-shell-setup-prompt.html | 14:48 |
| Ravage | wseadmin|afk-ish: test -d /sys/firmware/efi && echo efi || echo bios | 14:49 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | Aethereal: Try install sddm instead of gdm? | 14:49 |
| leftyfb | frost-core: are you trying to create your own distro? | 14:49 |
| frost-core | leftyfb : no im trying this on my ubuntu mate | 14:49 |
| frost-core | i already made my distro | 14:49 |
| ioria | Aethereal, odd : dpkg -l | grep gdm | nc termbin.com 9999 (and paste the url here pleae) | 14:49 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | Thanks Ravage it is "efi" | 14:50 |
| leftyfb | frost-core: if you need more in-depth help with bash, then you might try #bash | 14:51 |
| Aethereal | ioria https://termbin.com/39rk | 14:52 |
| ioria | Aethereal, ls /usr/share/xsessions/ | nc termbin.com 9999 | 14:53 |
| frost-core | thanks lefty! it worked! | 14:55 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /sda1/boot/grub/grub.cfg" --> " Sourcing file '/etc/default/grub' /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: cannot create /sda1/boot/grub/grub.cfg.new: Directory nonexistent " | 14:55 |
| frost-core | leftyfb : also do you know any guides to creating plymouth themes? | 14:56 |
| leftyfb | frost-core: no | 14:56 |
| Aethereal | ioria https://termbin.com/6qjh (did a ls -l so you can see the gnome.desktop link) | 14:56 |
| frost-core | leftyfb : is there an irc channel for plymouth? | 14:56 |
| ioria | Aethereal, cd /usr/share/xsessions/ | 14:57 |
| Persuader | Hi all.I'm using Ubuntu20 LTS, but the system keeps showing package installation errors and livepatch is not working.How can I solve this problem? | 14:57 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | I don't know but you might try searching " <criteria> site:omgubuntu.co.uk " they have a lot of theme stuff on there frost-core | 14:58 |
| ioria | Aethereal, and sudo mv gnome.desktop gnome.desktop.back | 14:58 |
| ioria | Aethereal, also sudo mv gnome-xorg.desktop gnome-xorg.desktop.back | 14:58 |
| frost-core | wseadmin|afk-ish : thanks! | 14:58 |
| Aethereal | ioria Ok. | 15:02 |
| ioria | Aethereal, check if you have gnome-session-wayland installed ( dpkg -l | grep gnome-session-wayland) | 15:02 |
| Aethereal | ioria seems not, it get no result | 15:03 |
| ioria | Aethereal, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 | 15:04 |
| Aethereal | ioria done. Is the gnome-session-wayland a required package? Should I install it? (in the etc/gdm3/custom.conf there's a line WaylandEnable=false) | 15:09 |
| ioria | Aethereal, nope, not required and that line should be comneted with an hash (#) | 15:09 |
| ioria | *commented | 15:10 |
| ioria | Aethereal, is it ? | 15:11 |
| frost-core | does anybody know how to get the plymouth-set-default-theme in ubuntu? | 15:11 |
| Aethereal | ioria it's not at the moment, maybe due to some of the internet articles I followed trying to fix it in the last weeks. I have commented it now, but still the same result restarting gdm | 15:12 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | Depends on your desktop environment frost-core | 15:12 |
| frost-core | wseadmin|afk-ish : mate? | 15:12 |
| ioria | Aethereal, ls /usr/share/wayland-sessions | nc termbin.com 9999 | 15:13 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | Not familiar with it sorry, try search for, "Change theme Mate" perhaps? | 15:13 |
| Aethereal | ioria https://termbin.com/cnk0 | 15:14 |
| ioria | Aethereal, cd /usr/share/wayland-sessions and sudo mv gnome.desktop gnome.desktop.back | 15:15 |
| Aethereal | ioria done, no changes. | 15:17 |
| ioria | Aethereal, sudo apt autopurge , what gives ? | 15:18 |
| Aethereal | ioria 0 to remove. I purged several times after removing waydroid | 15:19 |
| ioria | Aethereal, please, paste : cat /etc/gdm3/custom.conf | nc termbin.com 9999 | 15:20 |
| Aethereal | ioria https://termbin.com/1b8r | 15:21 |
| ioria | Aethereal, is lightdm installed ? dpkg -l | grep lightdm | 15:24 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg " --> " sudo grub-install /dev/sda1 " --> "Installation finished. No error reported." | 15:24 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | Am I missing boot flags on that partition perhaps? How do I set them? | 15:25 |
| Aethereal | ioria I get 4 entries, so I suppose it is | 15:25 |
| ioria | Aethereal, dpkg -l | grep mutter-common | nc termbin.com 9999 | 15:26 |
| tomreyn | wseadmin|afk-ish: "How do I check bios / EFI mode via CLI?" -> echo -n 'This system booted via: '; [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS | 15:27 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | The answer was "efi" tomreyn | 15:28 |
| tomreyn | oh ravage told you alread | 15:28 |
| Chunkyz | is there an app like speccy (that's for windows) but to see specs of my system on ubuntu? forgive me for the newbness. :-) | 15:29 |
| Aethereal | ioria https://termbin.com/3etg | 15:29 |
| frost-core | Chunkyz : you can use settings -> about | 15:29 |
| lotuspsychje | !info inxi | Chunkyz | 15:29 |
| ioria | Aethereal, dpkg -l | grep mutter-common | nc termbin.com 999 | 15:29 |
| ubottu | Chunkyz: inxi (3.3.06-1-1, impish): full featured system information script. In component universe, is extra. Built by inxi. Size 244 kB / 1,116 kB | 15:29 |
| tomreyn | wseadmin|afk-ish: did you mount all file systems before ran grub-mkconfig? | 15:29 |
| ioria | Aethereal, sorry .... | 15:29 |
| tomreyn | wseadmin|afk-ish: incl. the virtual ones? | 15:30 |
| ioria | Aethereal, it's wrong; you didn't purge waydroid | 15:30 |
| frost-core | !info inxi | frost-core | 15:30 |
| Chunkyz | frost-core: not using gnome. but thanks. lotuspsychje I'll look, thanks dude. | 15:30 |
| tomreyn | Persuader: post your errors on a pastebin | 15:30 |
| ioria | Aethereal, focal 20.04 version is 3.36.9-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 | 15:30 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | As far as I know, all partitions were mounted. It boots as though from the hard drive but uses the USB for the boot config. tomreyn | 15:30 |
| frost-core | Chunkyz : what de then?, i can tell you the about page of it | 15:30 |
| frost-core | or use inxi in terminal | 15:31 |
| ioria | Aethereal, you have 3.38.4-1 and it's not an ubuntu package | 15:31 |
| Aethereal | ioria That's strange, if I try to remove it again, it says it's not installed anymore. Maybe some dependencies weren't removed? Even with Purge? | 15:31 |
| tomreyn | wseadmin|afk-ish: what happened after install, after you removed the installer usb stick, and tried to boot? | 15:31 |
| Chunkyz | frost-core: i3-wm. inxi works though. :-) | 15:31 |
| ioria | Aethereal, sure; you need to purge all the external pkgs that come with waydroid | 15:32 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | About to try again tomreyn they are going on a smoke break. | 15:32 |
| ioria | Aethereal, apt-forktracer | nc termbin.com 9999 | 15:33 |
| ioria | Aethereal, you probably need to install apt-forktracer | 15:33 |
| MaxPower9 | /join #kali-linux | 15:38 |
| MaxPower9 | crap sorry | 15:38 |
| Aethereal | ioria Yes, done. https://termbin.com/pndm | 15:40 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | Zomg MaxPower9 is a haxxor! :o ( tomreyn same thing, when the USB is removed, I only get a blanks screen with a cursor in the top left. Boot menu has EFI: ubuntu OR Legacy: Hard Drive (neither work without the USB in)). | 15:40 |
| ioria | Aethereal, honestly, it's not good that you have all those unsupported pkgs.... | 15:41 |
| tomreyn | wseadmin|afk-ish: here's how you repair grub: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall#Using_A_Live_CD.2FUSB_To_Fix_Your_Current_System | 15:41 |
| ioria | Aethereal, but is the .list waydroid source still enabled ? ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d | 15:42 |
| tomreyn | wseadmin|afk-ish: your partitions can be different ones, of course, check with lsblk | 15:42 |
| tomreyn | wseadmin|afk-ish: and the "cryptsetup" command is only needed if you have opted for full disk encryption | 15:43 |
| tomreyn | wseadmin|afk-ish: this is a bit more compact: https://askubuntu.com/a/831241 | 15:44 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | tomreyn: Thank you will try it. | 15:45 |
| wseadmin|afk-ish | How did you get that short answer URL? | 15:46 |
| MaxPower9 | wseadmin|afk-ish you got me | 15:46 |
| tomreyn | wseadmin|afk-ish: using the "share" option | 15:46 |
| Aethereal | ioria I suspect most packages come from the 16.04->18.04->20.04 upgrade path, except a couple I probably installed manually for some programs (like coapp or codecs). In the sources.list.d I only have external repo for "cool-retro-term" and bitcoin (that I am not using anymore). I removed the repo for waydroid as the first thing after uninstalling | 15:47 |
| Aethereal | it. I did an uninstall, removed repo, apt update, apt upgrade and apt purge sequence. And then got the blank screen issue | 15:47 |
| === wseadmin|afk-ish is now known as wseadmin|Not-Int | ||
| === wseadmin|Not-Int is now known as wse|not-Interpol | ||
| ioria | Aethereal, good : sudo apt update and apt-cache policy mutter-common | nc termbin.com 9999 | 15:47 |
| wse|not-Interpol | Well now MaxPower9 you have nothing to worry about. Just tell me where you are. :P Thanks tomreyn | 15:48 |
| MaxPower9 | Ha nice try, i'm not telling interpol where I am :D | 15:48 |
| Aethereal | ioria https://termbin.com/urqv | 15:50 |
| Maik | please join #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic chatter MaxPower9 | 15:50 |
| ioria | Aethereal, sudo apt install mutter-common=3.36.9-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 (and paste errors if you got them) | 15:52 |
| Aethereal | ioria noticed it was a downgraded but no error executing it | 15:54 |
| ioria | Aethereal, apt-cache policy mutter-common | nc termbin.com 9999 | 15:54 |
| Aethereal | ioria https://termbin.com/ioe4 but what's more important, I did the command from a graphic terminal. It works now (or at least it looks like so) | 15:57 |
| wse|not-Interpol | tomreyn: " sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi " --> " mount: /mnt/boot/efi: mount point does not exist. " | 15:57 |
| ioria | Aethereal, now reboot and (if you have the login screen), select Ubuntu (on Xorg) and login | 15:58 |
| ioria | Aethereal, use the 'gear/clog' icon | 15:58 |
| wse|not-Interpol | tomreyn: "sudo chroot /mnt" --> "chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash': No such file or directory " | 16:04 |
| ioria | Aethereal, be right back in 10 min | 16:06 |
| frost-core | hey does anybody know an alternative to algodoo? | 16:11 |
| wse|not-Interpol | Nope. Never heard of Algodoo (2D Physics game / learning tool / engine) and can't think of anything similar. | 16:12 |
| Aethereal | ioria Sorry, the reboot took a while, seems it has some housekeeping to do at boot. For some reason I still get a blank screen, and a login screen only once I go in a shell and sudo systemctl restart gdm | 16:15 |
| Aethereal | ioria at the login screen I can just enter my password, no need to choose any session with any clog icon | 16:17 |
| ioria | Aethereal, and what happens exactly after you enter your password ? | 16:21 |
| ioria | Aethereal, ha, ok | 16:22 |
| === genii-core is now known as genii | ||
| ioria | Aethereal, dpkg -l | grep mutter | nc termbin.com 9999 | 16:22 |
| Aethereal | https://termbin.com/fat0 | 16:25 |
| ioria | Aethereal, mutter is ok ; dpkg -l | grep libplymouth | nc termbin.com 9999 | 16:26 |
| Aethereal | ioria https://termbin.com/jlrs | 16:27 |
| ioria | Aethereal, sudo apt purge libplymouth4 libplymouth2 | 16:28 |
| Aethereal | It wants to remove mountall* too | 16:31 |
| ioria | Aethereal, mountall ? it's the actual package name ? | 16:33 |
| Aethereal | ioria I see only plymouth4 appears in the forktracer output, maybe the plymouth2 is an old dependency of mountall? And do I need this package? | 16:33 |
| ioria | Aethereal, nope, 20.04 uses -5 version | 16:34 |
| ogra | mountally comes from upstart times ... | 16:34 |
| ogra | apt-cache policy mountall | 16:34 |
| Aethereal | So these must be lefrovers of 16.04 or 18.04 | 16:34 |
| ioria | thx ogra | 16:34 |
| ioria | Aethereal, yep | 16:34 |
| ogra | there shouldnbt be any archive entry for it on your system | 16:34 |
| ogra | (likely some upgrade leftover) | 16:35 |
| Aethereal | Yes ogra, only in var/lib/dpkg/status | 16:35 |
| ogra | right, safe to remove | 16:35 |
| Aethereal | I'll answer yes to remove all then | 16:35 |
| ioria | Aethereal, ls /var/lib/apt/lists | grep -i way | 16:37 |
| Aethereal | Done. It processed triggers for dbus and ureadahead doing that. The first one might be that | 16:37 |
| Aethereal | ioria no result for that command | 16:37 |
| ioria | good | 16:38 |
| ioria | Aethereal, sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target | 16:38 |
| Aethereal | ioria Done | 16:39 |
| ioria | Aethereal, your kernel ? uname -r | 16:40 |
| Aethereal | 5.4.0-64-generic | 16:40 |
| ioria | Aethereal, nope, too old | 16:41 |
| ioria | Aethereal, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade | 16:41 |
| Aethereal | 0 upgrades | 16:42 |
| ioria | !info linux-generic focal | 16:42 |
| ubottu | linux-generic (5.4.0.100.104, focal): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta. Size 2 kB / 19 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x.) | 16:42 |
| ioria | Aethereal, dpkg -l | grep linux-generic | 16:43 |
| Aethereal | Nothing | 16:44 |
| ioria | Aethereal, sudo apt install --reinstall linux-generic | 16:44 |
| wse|not-Interpol | tomreyn: I think the problem is that it is not booting from the USB. It is booting from the hard drive using the config on the USB. The guides and "boot-repair" decline to work. | 16:45 |
| Aethereal | Actually, it say linux-generic is a new package not previously selected | 16:46 |
| Aethereal | But ti's installing it | 16:46 |
| ioria | Aethereal, when it's done, again : sudo apt full-upgrade | 16:47 |
| Aethereal | ioria 0 to upgrade | 16:50 |
| ioria | Aethereal, ok, reboot | 16:51 |
| Aethereal | ioria ALL OK | 16:55 |
| ioria | Aethereal, well done | 16:56 |
| Aethereal | ioria It boots in the graphical login manager, and I get a gnome session. All seems restored | 16:56 |
| ioria | Aethereal, ok | 16:56 |
| Aethereal | Many thanks ioria wse|not-Interpol ogra and all | 16:57 |
| ioria | Aethereal, we'r welcm | 16:57 |
| wse|not-Interpol | tomreyn: Thanks for trying. I am heading out for the weekend. Good times to you all. o7 | 16:57 |
| frost-core | hello, so why is my zip file binary saying January 1st 1980? | 16:58 |
| leftyfb | frost-core: you're going to have to give more info than that. Regardless, I am 99% sure this is not an ubuntu issue | 16:59 |
| frost-core | leftyfb : i download the powder toy, and then open the zip with engrampa, for some reason it says 1980 on the executable, and i am questioning it | 17:00 |
| leftyfb | frost-core: ok, contact "powder toy" for support for that completely non-critical issue | 17:01 |
| jhutchins | frost-core: That's the default date for a null record. | 17:03 |
| novacyclist | frost-core: 1/1/1980 is the FAT32 0 epoch, I've seen it in macos when copying files over the dates are converted incorrectly | 17:04 |
| jhutchins | frost-core: It strongly suggests that there was an error in the creation of the archive, or possibly during it's download. | 17:05 |
| frost-core | jhutchins : but when extracting, game runs fine =# | 17:05 |
| leftyfb | frost-core: then there is no issue | 17:06 |
| frost-core | i mean its just a question | 17:07 |
| Maik | frost-core: but not even ubuntu related | 17:09 |
| frost-core | one thing is that how do i install cedarview? like this fedora guy did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQLmRMPVa5g | 17:10 |
| Maik | frost-core: also offtopic i guess | 17:10 |
| leftyfb | frost-core: cedarview are intel drivers. Why do you think you need that? | 17:12 |
| frost-core | leftyfb : i really need that driver, but i have to use kernel 3.2 | 17:12 |
| frost-core | which is sad :( | 17:12 |
| leftyfb | what? | 17:12 |
| frost-core | leftyfb : i need kernel 3.2 to run that driver | 17:13 |
| leftyfb | frost-core: ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ) | nc termbin.com 9999 | 17:13 |
| leftyfb | frost-core: why do you think you need that driver? | 17:13 |
| frost-core | leftyfb : its a gpu driver | 17:13 |
| leftyfb | frost-core: why do you think you need that driver? | 17:13 |
| frost-core | its because some games lag out hard | 17:14 |
| frost-core | https://termbin.com/12w2 | 17:14 |
| leftyfb | frost-core: lspci |grep VGA | nc termbin.com 9999 | 17:15 |
| frost-core | https://termbin.com/1c3t | 17:15 |
| frost-core | but it runs llvmpipe | 17:16 |
| jair | Hello all, just a quick question, if I am using a couple of laptops > ThinkPad X1 Carbon 4th and Latitude E6510 0001 and also Latitude E6540 01 would this be the must recommended kernel on Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS 5.13.0-28-generic ? | 17:16 |
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| jair | The reason I ask is because by default the kernel all the three systems uses are the generic one, but I think I notice that there is a version Kernel: 5.13.0-30-generic available, and if I want to have the latest up to date support for the different laptops wouldn't be a bad idea to upgrade to that? | 17:17 |
| Maik | frost-core: games lag hard because you have a low spec machine with only 2GB RAM i believe? | 17:17 |
| leftyfb | ^ | 17:18 |
| frost-core | Maik : i used to run windows with games, good performance cause it used opengl, linux, TERRIBLE JUNK PERFORMANCE! | 17:18 |
| frost-core | if only intel could make drivers for the latest kernel | 17:18 |
| Maik | frost-core: get a new machine | 17:19 |
| leftyfb | frost-core: an Atom processor with 2G of memory and Intel graphics is not a gaming platform | 17:19 |
| Maik | exactly | 17:19 |
| frost-core | leftyfb : but it used to run supertux fast i guess, and supertuxkart | 17:19 |
| Maik | frost-core: again, you have a low spec machine, don't expect it to run well with any OS and what you try to do. deal with it | 17:22 |
| jhutchins | If the same hardware is fast under one OS and slow under a different OS, it is not the hardware that makes the difference. | 17:26 |
| jhutchins | jair: Is there any hardware on either laptop that does not seem to be fully supported? | 17:26 |
| jair | jhutchins, I noticed that with the `20.04.3 LTS 5.13.0-24-generic` my third monitor kept going offline (connected via HDMI) but with kernel `20.04.3 LTS 5.13.0-28-generic` the issue improved | 17:29 |
| jair | I mean the third monitor goes offline less often | 17:29 |
| chilversc | is there a nice, simple way in a script to test if a ZFS pool exists? I got close with "zpool list -Ho health $pool" but if the pool doesn't exist it outputs an error message, and I wanted to avoid parsing error messages | 17:29 |
| jair | jhutchins but I am not sure if it was the kernel version | 17:30 |
| chilversc | I'm just after a simple true/false to test if a specific pool exists | 17:30 |
| frost-core | i may sell my nb and get an older, linux supported pc probably | 17:30 |
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| jair | I do notice that there is now a version `20.04.3 LTS 5.13.0-30-generic` so I wanted to know if there will be improvements on it, I tried to find the Ubuntu kernel release notes... | 17:31 |
| jair | jhutchinsand interesting this is that I see the kernel available for installation on two systems but in this laptop it is not available hummm > `Latitude E6540 01` | 17:33 |
| jair | same installation media I used for all three systems | 17:33 |
| VadimP | After upgrading to 21.10, I have no working sound. How can I fix this? | 17:34 |
| oerheks | VadimP, pulseaudio -k && sudo alsa force-reload # might fix it, setting to defaults | 17:37 |
| VadimP | It said "E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process" but still no sound | 17:38 |
| Ravage | And if you just type pulseaudio? | 17:40 |
| Ravage | Does it start or fail to start? | 17:41 |
| jhutchins | jair: Is that kernel already installed? Kernel release notes may be available "upstream" at kernel.org. | 17:41 |
| jhutchins | jair: It's probably a good idea to read them, several recent kernels have had "reversion" issues with support for previously working hardware. | 17:42 |
| VadimP | I deleted .pulse and .config/pulse, ran 'pulseaudio --start' and that exited without error, but still no sound. 'pulseaaudio' on its own says daemon already running | 17:42 |
| VadimP | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FMxsdC9sXF/ | 17:43 |
| jair | jhutchins it is installed in the other two systems but in this one for some reason it is not available when checking with synaptic `Latitude E6540 01` I will check the kernel.org details as Ubuntu/Canonical uses the same | 17:43 |
| oerheks | VadimP, and into sound settings, anything unusual? | 17:44 |
| Ravage | VadimP: try "sudo apt install pavucontrol" and then "pavucontrol" | 17:44 |
| oerheks | sound hdmi>your card | 17:44 |
| Ravage | see if it shows any devices | 17:44 |
| oerheks | alsamixer could do the same | 17:44 |
| VadimP | there is nothing odd. I have a video playing and the sound bar is jumping around. No sound is coming out, neither from my monitor nor the headset I have plugged in - https://streamable.com/wtz2yr | 17:46 |
| VadimP | pavucontrol is too complicated to make sense of but I see nothing wrong - https://imgur.com/a/QmaY64b | 17:47 |
| VadimP | What else can I try? Downgrading is not an option as this was a forced upgrade | 17:49 |
| Ravage | check "output devices" | 17:50 |
| Ravage | maybe its muted there. and how is your headset connected? does it show up in output devices? | 17:50 |
| VadimP | it shows sound be playing there: https://imgur.com/a/IBBIqSM | 17:51 |
| oerheks | change digital out to analog? | 17:52 |
| Ravage | yep. also HDMI looks good. there should be sound over HDMI when you select it as the output device of an application | 17:54 |
| oerheks | hdmi, oke, but not digital | 17:58 |
| radek | helo am poland | 17:59 |
| lpapp | hi, a program is looking for https://bpa.st/7HZQ libxcb-xinput.so.0 in various locations. What ships this, if any, on Ubuntu 16.04? | 18:16 |
| lpapp | Looks like libxcb-xinput0 is only available from 18.04. What was there before? | 18:16 |
| knightSoul | My Ship | 18:17 |
| oerheks | lpapp, yes, only on 18.04, and 16.04 is EOL, dead jim | 18:18 |
| oerheks | so, good luck with that vulnerable old version | 18:19 |
| knightSoul | cant hav | 18:21 |
| Chunkyz | knightSoul: /join #ubuntu-offtopic - this is a support channel. thank you. :-) | 18:24 |
| mncheck | I want to do-release-upgrade on a bionic but after apt upgrade there is "1 not installed" which --upgradable says is docker-ce I have from "https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu bionic/stable amd64 Packages", however, if I upgrade that, dpkg fails to configure, journalctl says SIGSEGV on the service | 19:09 |
| mncheck | the previous version works fine, which i downgraded to. how do you work around this? | 19:10 |
| jhutchins | mncheck: Are you using docker? | 19:19 |
| mncheck | jhutchins, yes | 19:19 |
| jhutchins | mncheck: Does the new version have any essential features you need to use? | 19:19 |
| mncheck | I have 82 images | 19:19 |
| mncheck | jhutchins, I don't care about the docker version, just want to go from bionic to focal | 19:20 |
| mncheck | jhutchins, so, no | 19:20 |
| jhutchins | Sounds like the correct response is to go get yourself a refreshing beverage and find something productive to work on. | 19:21 |
| jhutchins | Revisit the upgrade next week. | 19:21 |
| mncheck | what is the correct way to select the "test" suite with apt-get? docker I've added a bionic/test line with the docker sources.list | 19:30 |
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| mncheck | they have "edge" "nightly" "stable" and "test" and I'm currently on stable | 19:35 |
| xbox | hjhk | 19:42 |
| mncheck | oh it's not a suite but a component | 19:47 |
| mncheck | I have "deb [arch=amd64] https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu bionic stable test nightly", trying "apt-get it nightly instasll docker-ce" and getting "'nightly' is invalid for APT::Default-Release", not sure what did I do wrong | 19:57 |
| oerheks | mncheck, change to focal ? anyway, i would remove docker and the repo, until after upgrade and add it again | 19:59 |
| mncheck | oerheks, I'm still on bionic | 19:59 |
| oerheks | i think it should be disabled anyway during upgrade | 19:59 |
| mncheck | oerheks, I faintly remember once removing docker which deleted all my images in the past, which I don't want | 19:59 |
| oerheks | no it should not, not without --purge. and if you have no backup, those images are unimportant | 20:00 |
| jhutchins | mncheck: Hopefully you have since instated a policy of backing up your images to something external to the development sysem. | 20:02 |
| jhutchins | system. | 20:02 |
| oerheks | your /home/ folder would do.. | 20:02 |
| mncheck | I don't understand why -t nightly is not selecting anything | 20:03 |
| mncheck | well leaving only nightly avoids the problem by chance | 20:21 |
| g3poandlsl | Does anyone remember the name of the project that was developing a way to centrally manage GNOME settings in a way like Windows does group policy? IIRC, it was Flight-something | 20:22 |
| forgotmynick | i have php 7.4 installed but when trying to apt-get install php-sqlite3, it keeps trying to install php8 stuff. how do i stop this? --no-install-recommends does not do anything | 20:28 |
| forgotmynick | actually ignore that found my issue | 20:29 |
| mybalzitch | php74-sqlite3 ? | 20:32 |
| mybalzitch | :D | 20:32 |
| coz_ | good day all | 21:07 |
| adderall | I think I finally got my Ubuntu to stop freezing and to load up at a decent speed after disabling fsck at start-up. I have to ask myself when I spend days modifying scripts to get Linux to run right if it's really worth it all? | 21:09 |
| adderall | But if I go back to Windows, eventually, I'll miss it. | 21:09 |
| coz_ | adderall, it's definitly worth it | 21:10 |
| adderall | You tell me how it's worth it, boss? | 21:10 |
| adderall | I mostly use it because I like the fact that I can make it do whatever I want and I don't have to worry about malware so much. | 21:10 |
| coz_ | adderall, nlike windows, you learn more about the system, and configuring it | 21:10 |
| adderall | This is true. | 21:10 |
| adderall | You learn about computer science. | 21:10 |
| adderall | It would be the best if my interviewers didn't keep asking me PowerShell and Windows questions though. | 21:11 |
| adderall | Have you ever run rkhunter, coz_? | 21:11 |
| coz_ | adderall, i have ot | 21:11 |
| coz_ | not | 21:11 |
| adderall | Try it. It's interesting. I've found that the Linux anti-malware or anti-rootkit programs are a lot more thorough than Windows stuff. It will flag a lot of stuff that consists of false positives for most people but you'll learn about what something should look for auditing in a production environment. | 21:12 |
| mncheck | update not looking very smooth | 21:13 |
| adderall | Yeah, see, mncheck is going through the rounds like I did | 21:13 |
| adderall | If he's got tenacity, he won't reinstall | 21:13 |
| adderall | Might wanna change your kernel mncheck ... if all else fails | 21:13 |
| Mitacho | Hey guys! Can someone help me ? :D https://askubuntu.com/questions/1393594/usb-microphone-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-21-10 | 21:17 |
| adderall | I can try to help, Mitacho | 21:19 |
| adderall | I just stepped in here. | 21:19 |
| adderall | What's up? | 21:19 |
| sarnold | "DRELANMIC: device is a keyboard" | 21:19 |
| sarnold | cute | 21:19 |
| Mitacho | I am new here too, haha. | 21:20 |
| adderall | K, I DM'd you, Mitacho | 21:20 |
| sarnold | ? | 21:20 |
| adderall | *direct message | 21:20 |
| Mitacho | Oh, OK | 21:20 |
| adderall | If you're talking to me | 21:20 |
| Mitacho | OK adderall, I will reply you in direct message. | 21:21 |
| sarnold | but why? | 21:23 |
| sarnold | there's an entire channel of people here to help | 21:23 |
| mncheck | are there release upgrade instructions for a specific package somewhere? | 21:23 |
| sarnold | mncheck: sometimes the release notes have notes on specific packages, yeah | 21:24 |
| mncheck | sarnold, my smb.conf from bionic uses an idmap backend that doesn't seem to be available in focal | 21:32 |
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| sarnold | mncheck: hrm :( bummer, I don't see anything like that on the focal release notes. there's an sssd module for idmap, I wonder if that's the expected replacement | 21:36 |
| mncheck | sarnold, I don't know if I change the idmap backend wouldn't the established ids be messed up | 21:37 |
| sarnold | mncheck: see if this helps? https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/service-sssd | 21:37 |
| mncheck | sarnold, I use that for new configurations but I don't think it says anything about idmap | 21:37 |
| sarnold | :( | 21:38 |
| Mitacho | I edited my post on askubuntu, I added some more informations. | 21:45 |
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| Mitacho | Please help me, I don't want to have to install Windows just for the sake of a microphone. | 21:46 |
| giu- | hi to all | 21:47 |
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| rm-rf | What - you don't have to install Windows | 21:49 |
| rm-rf | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/529646/how-to-find-out-the-internal-microphones-driver-on-a-linux-pc | 21:49 |
| Mitacho | ( Sorry guys, that are the results generated by Google Translate ) | 21:50 |
| Mitacho | Thanks rm-rf, I am going to check it out. | 21:50 |
| rm-rf | Run alsamixer | 21:52 |
| rm-rf | https://askubuntu.com/questions/4564/how-do-i-install-my-microphone | 21:52 |
| sarnold | Mitacho: this might help http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man1/usb_modeswitch.1.html | 21:55 |
| rm-rf | Yes, man pages are where it's at | 21:55 |
| rm-rf | or <command -h> | 21:56 |
| Mitacho | Cool, I'm taking a look. | 21:57 |
| rm-rf | Yeah, I'm gonna take a walk. I don't get enough exercise. | 21:58 |
| rm-rf | Again, DM me if you get stuck. I can almost guarantee you there's a fix. Let me check something else really quick | 21:58 |
| rm-rf | You need to find out what chipset it uses. | 21:59 |
| Mitacho | Thank you guys very much! | 21:59 |
| Mitacho | I am trying yet. | 22:00 |
| rm-rf | Also, assuming it's a usb mic, do lsusb | 22:00 |
| rm-rf | So, make sure it's at least picking up from the bus | 22:00 |
| Mitacho | We will make it! | 22:00 |
| rm-rf | If the bus can't read it, that's your first issue. | 22:00 |
| rm-rf | If it reads at the bus level, go from there. | 22:00 |
| Mitacho | It is here: Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0c76:120c JMTek, LLC. DRELANMIC | 22:01 |
| rm-rf | K ... now. Give me one set | 22:01 |
| rm-rf | *sec | 22:01 |
| Mitacho | OK! | 22:01 |
| rm-rf | Where do I post images here for code? | 22:01 |
| octav1a | rm-rf: bpa.st | 22:01 |
| Mathisen | rm-rf, https://bpa.st/ for example | 22:01 |
| rm-rf | K ... But you still need info on the driver. | 22:04 |
| rm-rf | https://serverfault.com/questions/984643/how-to-find-out-which-device-corresponds-for-sys-bus-usb-devices-devicen | 22:05 |
| rm-rf | I just uploaded the code for that but you need to read the link as well. | 22:06 |
| jhutchins | Debian has a pci id database that references known drivers, but I haven't seen anything for usb. | 22:06 |
| Mathisen | rm-rf, you need to paste the link to show the code you pasted :) | 22:07 |
| rm-rf | I did paste the link | 22:07 |
| rm-rf | it's that serverfault.com link above, haha | 22:07 |
| rm-rf | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60078/find-out-which-modules-are-associated-with-a-usb-device | 22:07 |
| rm-rf | And one more link: hamwaves.com/usb.autosuspend/en/ | 22:08 |
| rm-rf | This is A LOT. I don't wanna just flood this chat with links. But, after you go through all of those, get back to me or us. | 22:08 |
| rm-rf | I'll be back in a bit | 22:08 |
| Mitacho | I am trying to execute the script | 22:09 |
| Mitacho | But I cant dot it even logged in as root, ahahah. | 22:09 |
| Mitacho | xargs: ./usb2sys: Permissão negada | 22:09 |
| Mitacho | Permissão negada = " Permission denied " | 22:10 |
| Mathisen | run it with sudo | 22:10 |
| rm-rf | Yes, what he said | 22:11 |
| rm-rf | or, even better: do < sudo -i > so you stay in root during all of this | 22:11 |
| rm-rf | Umm, <sudo -s> is even better. Sudo -s will go to root but under the user so not full root. | 22:12 |
| Mathisen | side note: dont run things as root you dont understand what does. | 22:12 |
| rm-rf | *root oft he user | 22:12 |
| Mitacho | Also does not allow. Neither using sudo nor using sudo -i | 22:12 |
| Mathisen | dont copy paste things you dont understand | 22:12 |
| rm-rf | I'm agreeing with everything Mathisen is saying so far | 22:12 |
| rm-rf | But, if you break it, since it's Linux ... you can almost always fix it | 22:12 |
| rm-rf | Unless you start messing around with something like the GRUB or fstab | 22:12 |
| rm-rf | If you're talking to me, I understand them, dude | 22:13 |
| rm-rf | I've run the scripts that I'm sharing, along with the commands for priviledge etc | 22:13 |
| jhutchins | How about "run it with bash (or whatever shell it wants). bash /path/to/script | 22:15 |
| sarnold | rm-rf: sudo -s is indeed full root | 22:17 |
| Mitacho | Sorry guys, I am stuck. I am trying to pass the vendor id to usb_modeswitch but it says: No default vendor/product ID given. Abort | 22:18 |
| Mitacho | This is the command I ran: sudo usb_modeswitch -v 0x0c76 | 22:18 |
| Mitacho | https://imgur.com/a/1sB7WdQ | 22:23 |
| Mitacho | rm-rf this script could not be executed. | 22:23 |
| Mitacho | That* | 22:24 |
| Mathisen | Mitacho, well you you are not running xargs as sudo.. when you pipe something example " command 1 | command 2 " you need to enter sudo for both commands if you need to run them as root. so it would be " sudo command 1 | sudo command 2 " | 22:25 |
| sarnold | chmod 755 usb2sys will fix the permissions problem | 22:25 |
| sarnold | but what's the point of that script? | 22:25 |
| Mitacho | Oh! | 22:25 |
| sarnold | what will you do once you've got the /sys path of the device? | 22:25 |
| Mitacho | https://imgur.com/a/EyNHSf3 | 22:27 |
| Mitacho | I don't know yet, actually. ahaa | 22:28 |
| Mitacho | It is here, rm-rf. I could ran the command thanks to sarnold. | 22:29 |
| djenna | can I ask about ubuntu chrome here? | 22:36 |
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| sarnold | yeah | 22:37 |
| Mitacho | My last option will be to create my own USB microphone | 22:39 |
| djenna | OK I havent used this laptop for a year and the chromebookmarks are all out of phase. I cant update chrome, must reinstall but if it synchs I am afraid that these old bookmarks will mess things up. How can I erase all my chrome data before I reinstall the new version of chrome. (thanks for being here sarnold. I m morganu too) | 22:40 |
| jhutchins | clear your old bookmarks, export them on the new system and import them to the old. | 22:40 |
| djenna | That isnt the idea. I want ot clear all my chrome data off this laptop before I reinstall chrome and synch. Things are fine with chrome on my home computer. | 22:46 |
| djenna | Maybe I need to read what you said a couple of more times. | 22:47 |
| djenna | Now I understand. Thanks jhutchins | 22:47 |
| jhutchins | djenna: I have no experience with chrome, but I would not expect old user data to persist through a reinstall. | 22:48 |
| rm-rf | https://superuser.com/questions/306923/what-does-sudo-s-actually-do | 22:49 |
| jhutchins | djenna: Oh, er, outside the browser that is. | 22:49 |
| rm-rf | ... On the "sudo -s" earlier. Like I said, it's root for the user but not full admin root. There are higher privilges beyond sudo -s | 22:49 |
| rm-rf | Also, Chromium is the default browser for Linux. Although I do use Chrome myself and I prefer it. | 22:50 |
| Mitacho | I couldn't solve the problem with the USB microphone today. Anyway, thanks a lot for the help guys! I'll try to solve it another day. | 22:50 |
| rm-rf | *default Google browser. | 22:50 |
| rm-rf | I can figure out the mic issue. | 22:50 |
| jhutchins | rm-rf: Default browser depends on the distribution. I know of several major ones that don't use chrom(ium). | 22:52 |
| Mitacho | rm-rf Oh! cool. I'll stay here, if you mention me I'll respond! | 22:53 |
| jhutchins | Mitacho: You might do some web searching using the USB ID and the hardware info you got. | 22:54 |
| Mitacho | OK! | 22:54 |
| jhutchins | Mitacho: Chances of someone here actually knowing about your specific hardware are pretty small. | 22:54 |
| oerheks | djenna, f you login with google, your bookmarks are restored, AFAIK | 22:55 |
| oerheks | and xtentions | 22:55 |
| rm-rf | https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxCirclejerk/ | 23:05 |
| oerheks | !offtopic | 23:05 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 23:05 |
| Mitacho | See you guys tomorrow. | 23:21 |
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