[00:21] sarnold, don't ask me how or why lol but... had to disable secure boot, enable legacy boot then boot from uefi and it installed. weird. [00:22] Client: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: Ubuntu "impish" 21.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6500T CPU @ 2.50GHz (2.50GHz) • Memory: Physical: 15.1 GiB Total (14.7 GiB Free) Swap: 3.9 GiB Total (3.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 1.2 TB / 3.1 TB (2.0 TB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 @ Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 11m 18s [00:22] but I'm getting weird screen tearing. :-( [00:22] Chunkyz: Not much surprise there, SecureBoot was developed to prevent people from booting to other media, specifically to prevent people from installing Linux. [00:22] Chunkyz: that's a crazy series of things to try :) heh [00:23] give more memory to your integrated intel thing [00:25] oh, nevermind! fixed it. :-) [00:26] it works now though, that's the main thing :-) looking forward to the next LTS! thanks guys. :-) [00:26] ubuntu should have boot loaders that are signed by microsoft, which might be compatible with secure boot [00:27] but I've never used them, maybe it doesn't work [00:29] secure boot works fine, unless you want nvidia drivers [00:29] oh? I thougth we signed those, too [00:30] I installed everything through the server install, no more lubuntu/xubuntu loading screens! [00:30] happy customer! thanks for the support. :-) [00:35] that explans why I have to turn off secureboot on some installs [00:35] you install a lot of twelve year old software? [00:38] I usually try all uefi and secureboot first then turn off secureboot if install fails it also seens to help if I use ubunt startup disk creator on a uefi machine no idea why [00:44] will upgrading from 21.10 to 22.04 break things? [00:54] !22.04 | Chunkyz [00:54] Chunkyz: Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) will be the 36th release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release April 2022 (https://ubottu.com/y/jj). Join #ubuntu-next for support and questions. [01:14] Bashing-om: ?? [01:15] Why tag me in that 🤔 [01:16] Chunkyz, you there? [01:16] Chunkyz, on debian, I recall running into an issue where some motherboards were not friendly with NVME installs and I had to specifically manually configure the ... what's it called. bootloader install on the correct drive. [01:19] any note apps for linux that have spell checking because my spelling and grammer some time is lacking [01:19] just like that message [01:19] haha [01:20] goddard, I use web based tools, like google keep. [01:20] Chunkyz: Sorry to be unclear - inquiries about 22.04 go to #ubuntu-next channel - better eyes there :D [01:25] cluelessperson: alrighty [01:44] hi [02:18] I have a question. I am having to consider another distribution for a business environment: my stepson is going to start a small business, an RV park. He will be providing internet (both wifi and wired) to his clients. So I need a rock-solid Linux distro for servers: host and vm. How much is it likely to cost to do this with Ubuntu, and is Ubuntu capable of doing such work (I prefer kvm for [02:18] virtuals). [02:18] heya ke4nhw :) you can use ubuntu lts for free if you wish [02:19] ubunbu lts? [02:19] Is that a lightweight version of ubuntu? [02:19] ke4nhw: ubuntu is released every six months, and most are supported for nine months. every two years, in april, there's a new "long term support" release that has five years support, with an additional five years of "esm" support available for subscription.. [02:20] ke4nhw: the vast majority of people run the LTS releases, since they get the most bug fixing focus, the most third-party application support, and are pretty predictable [02:21] so it would have a life cycle similar to Fedora, based on subscription? [02:21] Or does the subscription just extend the life cycle from 5 to 10 years? [02:22] And what is esm support? [02:22] sorry :) I've been stuck in the jargon for so long.. [02:22] That's okay lol [02:23] esm == extended security (and?) maintenance -- it's mostly security support after the free basic support ends, yeah [02:23] it's not *exactly* for money, you can get three machines of esm for free, https://ubuntu.com/advantage [02:24] but if you're talking a dozen machines, or a dozen VMs, and you want them to still get security support after five years, it'll cost a bit per machine, yeah [02:24] So I can 5 years for free, then either upgrade or subscribe to continue support for the current version? [02:24] Probably not a dozen, but I'd expect at least half a dozen... [02:24] quite a lot of folks will just upgrade every two years, and either run the newest LTS release, or the "previous LTS" release [02:25] but a lot of businesses run on slower cycles than that :) [02:31] i install kodi on my ubutun20.04 from repository, it prompt "Err:1 http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/universe amd64 libfstrcmp0 amd64 0.7.D001-1.1build1 [02:31] Connection failed [IP: 91.189.91.38 80] [02:31] " ,the ip can ping through ,and i search that package on pkg.org , it display none exist === hays is now known as h_ [02:34] oops: that's strange -- you're the first to report problems here, I can't spot anything that looks out of hte ordinary .. is it still a problem? === A_Dragon is now known as NotRegistered === NotRegistered is now known as A_Dragon [02:38] oops: libfstrcmp0 in package: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/kodi-gbm . === evanextreme is now known as evanextreme[away [02:39] So every two years ubuntu releases a version that is supported, without cost, completely, for 5 years? This means I could, depending on his needs, go 4 years between major upgrades? [02:42] ke4nhw: yeah, pretty much [02:43] 4 years would be an acceptable cycle. So, does the long term support, the two year model, just run behind the 6 month distribution? Is this similar to Fedora/Centos/RedHat layout, where Fedora updates frequently, yet by time it distills down to RedHat it's running slightly behind, but it's much more stable since it's tested by that point? [02:44] ke4nhw: I've got a 16.04 VM, two 18.04 machines, three 20.04 machines; the 16.04 is on a free ESM plan, the others are still in standard support. one of these days I'll re-standardize everything, probably a bit after 22.04 is out [02:45] ke4nhw: the LTS releases are cut from the exactly the same stream of packages as the "interim" releases -- the development release is constantly importing packages from debian unstable, until some point in the release cycle that process is stopped [02:45] ke4nhw: debian unstable still keeps churning along at whatever rate it churns at, in the meantime [02:49] So Debian is an unstable distribution, or is 'debian unstable' a testbed platform, similar to Fedora? Is Debian the testbed for Ubuntu, or is it a separate distro altogether? [02:52] debian is a separate distribution altogether; debian unstable is a bit like a rolling release, every year or two or three they stablize for a bit and focus on interoperability and bug fixes and so on and then make a new stable release, and then go back to uploading new versions of packages to unstable whenever it's convenient [02:53] ubuntu builds on the unstable releases, and puts some predictability to the releases -- every six months -- with the intention of trying to make sure the changes along the way make sense together, that upstream application authors get feedback from releases more often, etc [02:53] so, ubuntu does some 'real world' testing of packages before those packages are released in a debian stable [03:00] Okay, so Ubuntu LTS, and Debian, are both end products, similar to RHEL, therefore stable? [03:01] that's the idea, yeah [04:28] I was curious if anyone knew of a software to increase the volume past 100% [04:28] I had one before but I have forgot the name of it [04:28] It let me increase the volumes on firefox and other software individually [04:41] I don't know about software, but you can't go wrong with having a home theater system with huge ass speakers attached to your computer [04:41] Always been my fave solution [04:53] want to install kde [04:53] do sudo -rf -rm --no-preserve-root [04:54] sudo -rf -rm --no-preserve-root for kde [04:56] yrdsb: no, this will destroy your current system and all files on it [04:56] [11:54:19 PM] sudo -rf -rm --no-preserve-root for kde [04:56] [11:56:23 PM] yrdsb: no, this will destroy your current system and all files on it [04:56] no it wil lgive kds [04:57] yrdsb: try KDE in a Live session first, or install it in a VM [04:57] want kde [04:57] do sudo -rf -rm /* [04:59] Does anyone know how to get around system hangs at boot caused by snap loading too slow? [04:59] Apparently it's a bug but there has to be some way to circumvent or patch it. [05:00] adderall: i dont think theres anything other than reducing the number of snaps? [05:00] Literally the most dangerous command in Linux, by reversing the command and switch [05:02] ke4nhw: are you talkin' to me or is that a reference to something else before I logged in? [05:03] before you logged in, sorry [05:03] Yeah, I can even find the process causing it to hang [05:04] ... Looks like it's the full snap directory doing this [05:04] Could just disable snap at boot [05:04] I don't know enough about ubuntu to even hazard a guess. [05:06] Well, the snap issue isn't just an Ubuntu thing. You can install snap on any linux [05:07] It just makes it easier to install certain packages and I find that with snap, the icons and gui features are nicer. But it does slow things down considerably [05:07] Holy mother of God, I am seeing things in the Ubuntu pricing list in the $200,000/yr price range???? Um, yeah, ubuntu might just be too rich for my blood [05:08] I haven't heard of it, and doesn't sound like I want to try it lol [05:08] ? Ubuntu is 100% free. [05:08] I was looking at things under the enterprise/business pages [05:09] I'm not even sure what that means: Ubuntu is not free ... it's open source and free to install. This gets into the political arguments of what free software is, relating to GNU and Richard Stallman [05:09] I'm going to say it's free as in it doesn't cost $120, as compared to Windows [05:09] adderall: regardless of what he thinks, it's absolutely free in both meanings [05:09] I agree with KBar [05:09] you can get it for exactly 0 cents and do whatever you want with it [05:10] It's free enough. You don't have to pay for it. It used to come with Amazon on the desktop but Canonical quit doing that. [05:10] And one reason I am considering ubuntu is for a busisness. Not mine, my stepson, it'll be a small business, but I don't need him getting hit with a "you're using this in a place that makes money so it violates the license agreement". Literally the same thing I nearly walked into before now [05:10] get rid of most the packages, install something else, etc. [05:10] What country are you in, ke4nhw? Just curious as it's very rare for business owners to use Linux in the U.S. [05:10] I'm interested in the idea of that! Very cool [05:10] It's mostly just used for servers here [05:11] My idea of free is "can I use this at home, in a small business, or whatever, free of charge, without having a massive lawsuit. I'm here in the US, and this is for servers. [05:11] adderall: i heard ts pretty popular in SEA for kiosks? [05:11] Yep, haha, it's free [05:11] I'm sure it's used for cash registers in the U.S. [05:11] He'll be using Windows on his desk of course, but backend stuff will be on Linux servers. [05:11] I noticed at Target that they were running Linux on the registers. I got super excited. My wife and father-in-law didn't care though, LOL [05:12] this is getting off-topic, lets maybe continue this on #ubuntu-discuss? [05:12] Yeah, OK ... [05:12] I can move to that chat. I'm not auto-joined to it, but I'm OK with that [05:14] I'll be there in about 10 minutes, I'm getting pummeled by bad weather, the radar is only just starting to settle down, so I want to get a better look at what I'm getting before I talk to the folks at national weather service [05:16] Okay, think I'm in the clear [05:17] they dropped the warnings [05:19] But no my concern was whether ubuntu can be used free in a business environment, something the website isn't entirely clear about. when I do look under the enterprise side of the website, I see links to pricing, and some of those numbers, especially under devices, climb way past my happy place. I'll keep digging though. [06:15] when using kodi play iptv or videos , it has only sound and no video image, how to fix it , my os is ubuntu20.04 === Mibixy is now known as Mibix [07:00] hello everyone, how are yall [07:01] foehammer: hi. How can we help you? [07:03] I am ok, no help needed, this is just my default channel to load into [07:06] foehammer: alright. Keep in mind that this channel is for Ubuntu supported. You're expected to ask questions, so. [07:06] foehammer: for chit chat, visit appropriate channels like #ubuntu-offtopic [07:19] How can I reset all the network settings including virtual interface definitions such as vlan etc? I tried systemctl stop network-manager and networking services but it didn't help [07:20] squid_game: `apt purge` `apt install`? [07:22] KBar, do you mean to reinstall networking service? [07:23] squid_game: depends on what exactly you changed [07:23] it's not specific to my laptop. I tried in different laptops, I get the same issue. [07:24] KBar, is there another method that I can restart/reset all the networking interfaces and settings, as fresh as restarting the laptop? [07:27] squid_game: `iptables -F`? [07:28] KBar, I tried as well, but didn't help. AFAIK, it is to refresh the ip rules, doesn't effect the interfaces [07:29] squid_game: then just `systemctl restart` [07:31] KBar, systemctl restart "what service"? It's also my question :) [07:31] squid_game: depending on what you have. it's network-manager by default [07:32] squid_game: so it would be NetworkManager.service [07:32] i dont know what your computer has [07:32] if its a server or a desktop [07:32] I have ubuntu 18.04 desktop [07:33] I tried all the network* services. I have 3 of them, it didn't help. [07:33] squid_game: try the one starting with a capital N [07:33] do you know another method or another service that might work? [07:33] NetworkManager.service [07:34] I don't have it. I only have networkd-dispatcher.service network-manager.service network-pre.target networking.service network-online.target network.target [07:34] I tried all the *.services [07:34] Yeah, you probably did something wrong on your system then. It should be there. [07:36] squid_game: can you verify that? `systemctl list-units --all` and then search for 'NetworkManager.service' [07:37] KBar, I am using a work latop. AFAIK, we use a modified ubuntu by Canonical. Perhaps they removed some of the services. Yes, I don't have NetworkManager.service [07:38] squid_game: how about systemd-networkd.service? [07:38] if I stop the *.services, it disables the connectivity. But the interfaces, IP addresses etc are still there [07:39] I have systemd-networkd.service [07:39] I will try it and will probably be disconnected [07:39] thanks for the help [07:39] squid_game: `systemctl reload systemd-networkd.service` [07:40] @squid_game. did you get what you need? [07:40] Failed to reload systemd-networkd.service: Job type reload is not applicable for unit systemd-networkd.service [07:41] armadefuego, no. Is there any chance you might have a suggestion? [07:41] well i am trying to follw, but i may have gotten on the wrong foot. [07:41] armadefuego, what I want to have is to refresh all the network settings, interfaces etc. [07:42] are you just trying to restart all the connections, like on reboot, or not have the connections you _currently_ have [07:43] ( which would reconnect on reboot... if you didn't remove them [07:44] armadefuego. I'd appreciate any suggestion :) What I'm trying to refresh all the network settings. As an example, I time to run scripts that configures network interfaces, such as creating vlans and assigns ip addresses etc. I'd like to reset everything so that I get a fresh network settings so that I'd not need to restart my laptop to reset the configurations [07:45] yes, I'd like to restart the network interface&settings similar to what a reboot would do [07:46] but you also _expect_ to set them up again? [07:54] no [07:54] I want a fresh start [07:55] ok. The GUI has buttons to shut them off. or the commandline has nmcli... IIRC [07:56] either could shut down a connection, for temp purposes. then click and it reconnects [07:58] armadefuego, do you know if I can do it on the terminal? Then I'd use it part of a bash script [07:58] nmcli connection show [08:00] nmcli is justone method to shutdown a connectio, and restart. [08:01] interesting. I didn't know it. I am going to investigate it [08:02] its got a decent man page. [08:02] and the _ip_ command can be usefull here. [08:03] thank you for the tip, I will investigate it [08:04] NP. Anything else? [08:14] hello, I've compiled a software (remmina) in /opt/remmina, this folder contains the "share" folder (icons, mime, etc), /opt/remmina/share; how can I make this folder awailable system wide (eg access remmina from Gnome and add to favorites) ? shall a symlink be made or copy/append the /opt/remmina/share folder to /usr/share [08:28] XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/ubuntu:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/:/var/lib/snapd/desktop? === lumi1 is now known as lumiuser [09:40] hello! [09:40] why does this error happen http://paste.debian.net/1231364/ === hayaliali is now known as alip [10:09] Hey guys! I posted a question related to my USB microphone on askubuntu. It seems Ubuntu thinks my USB microphone is a keyboard. Can someone help me ? Thank you very much. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1393594/usb-microphone-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-21-10 [11:33] how i install libtiff4 and libpng12-0 on Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS? [11:34] Hi all, I seem to have a weird installation image. I confirmed by using it twice, that the default, "Wipe drive and install" puts GRUB on the USB. [11:35] How do I get it to install GRUB on the hard drive, so that I can remove the USB? [11:35] BlackMage: why do you want older versions of those? [11:35] The machine is in use, so ideally, I would like to do it via CLI. [11:36] libtiff5 and libpng16 are in the repos of 20.04.3 [11:37] Unable to locate package libpng16 [11:37] apt search libpng [11:38] libpng16-16/focal,now 1.6.37-2 amd64 [11:38] should be install by default already BlackMage [11:38] install/installed [11:38] why is it called that? [11:39] don't ask me === wseadmin is now known as wseadmin|afk [11:50] hellp === darkarmy is now known as register === register is now known as Guest8160 === Guest8160 is now known as darkarmy [12:02] what ubuntu think about GNU guix or if NONGUIX or NIXos doing things? [12:03] i dont think ubuntu thinks anything. its not alive. [12:03] *ubuntu core developers, *ubuntu company peoples who made ubuntu things [12:04] if you have an Ubuntu support question ask it. if not you can use #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss [12:04] ok it is also ubuntu support, but not for the ubuntu :( [12:05] opinions are not support question [12:05] ok i'm there thank you , [12:06] but it was just simple question, it would be great if ubuntu adopt guix/non-guix way of doing things? ok [12:07] feel free to continue with the discussion in -discuss or -offtopic blacked === wseadmin|afk is now known as wseadmin|afk-ish [12:11] Getting very lost with trying to format a partition and get GRUB installed on it via CLI and can't get the tightvncserver service to restart either. === ubuntu is now known as Guest2976 [12:24] I am using zsh on my ubuntu. I wanted to base64 encode a cert and because it conatins new lines the encoding is not what is expected it seems. I googled and found various solutions to avoid this. But I wanted to discuss here how people like to do it. stackoverflow is not always the right canonical way of doing it right [12:27] bodhi: how do you do it now? [12:34] base64encode.org is one quick way for anything that is not a "secret". (like examples I publish in public repos). for actually deployments. https://superuser.com/questions/1225134/why-does-the-base64-of-a-string-contain-n [12:55] Is someone able to help me with a potentially broke 20.04? It doesn't start the graphic environment anymore (it did in the past) but X logs doesn't show any EE line. Already tried all possible solutions I found through google [13:04] Aethereal CTRL + ALT + F2 to F6 then sudo apt install --reinstall blah-desktop [13:06] Aethereal: if you create another account does that start? [13:07] is there a web page somewhere that lists the current hwe kernel available for each release? [13:12] wseadmin|afk-ish already tried that, reinstalling gnome-desktop, but with no result [13:13] Aethereal: Try a different desktop or reinstall your display manager? sddm, lightdm, gdm3, etc? [13:14] chilversc: Careful with that, I manually installed a kernel and tortured my drive. [13:17] hwe should avoid that issue as they're backported specifically for ubuntu === Guest5433 is now known as pong [13:22] chilversc: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=linux-tools-generic-hwe [13:22] or better https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all§ion=all&arch=any&keywords=linux-image-generic-hwe&searchon=names [13:23] raspberry is faster than windows10 [13:23] raspberry ubuntu [13:24] plon: do you have a ubuntu support question? [13:25] is there a method to enable the cpu faster [13:26] not within Ubuntu. google overclocking [13:26] wseadmin|afk-ish I also tried a reconfigure of gdm3 too, still same result. If I try a startx from shell it just throw out some lines about starting up, then exit without errors, like it just finished. [13:26] google overclocking [13:32] plon: ubuntu works fine on a Pi 4 with 4 or 8 GB RAM without overclocking [13:32] wseadmin|afk-ish I think it all started when I tried to install waydroid following these instructions: https://docs.waydro.id/usage/install-on-desktops Since it was not working I then removed it and the repo. I thought the uninstall could have removed too much so I tried, as told before, to do a reinstall of X and desktop packages, but nothing [13:32] works. Instead of a login screen I get a blank screen with a blinking cursor, and need to ALT-F2 to get a shell [13:33] Aethereal, how did you reinstall X and -desktop pkgs ? [13:37] ioria I  used sudo apt install --reinstall xserver-xorg and sudo apt install --reinstall gnome-desktop if I recall correctly (I'm after this issue since a month now) [13:38] !ingo gnome-desktop [13:38] !info gnome-desktop [13:38] Package gnome-desktop does not exist in impish [13:38] Aethereal, what release ? 20.04 ? [13:40] ioria The machine is currently 20.04, but it started as a 16.04->18.04->20.04 [13:40] 'Morning folks [13:41] Aethereal, so it's Ubuntu , not Kubuntu or another flavor ? [13:41] ioria Yes, vanilla Ubuntu [13:42] shouldn't gnome-desktop be ubuntu-desktop when reinstalling? [13:42] Aethereal, sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop^ ( <-- note the caret ^) [13:46] ioria 1306 reinstalls, 0 deletions and 0 new... it will take a bit though, my connection isn't so fast and it's downloading everything as it were new [13:46] i see [13:48] ioria what's the caret meaning? I've never seen it [13:49] Aethereal, it's a set of packages [13:51] ioria I see, like @name in Gentoo emerge [13:52] Aethereal, yeah, probably [13:52] Aethereal, i suggest anyhow to purge/remove that waydoid [13:53] ioria Yes, I already did that. I have this issue since I removed it... [13:54] ok [13:55] Aethereal: If you /home is in its own logical partition, then you can just reinstall your boot partition. [13:58] wseadmin|afk-ish Unfortunately it's a whole partition. It's also fully encrypted (I enter a key to unlock the disk at boot. Ironically, at that point the machine is in graphic mode) [13:59] So, the answer to my question might be: " ssh -X " then " sudo gparted /dev/sda " followed by " sudo grub-install /dev/sda1 " [14:00] Aethereal:Use " scp " to backup important stuff to another device. [14:01] Ravage: thanks [14:02] any plans to backport kernel 5.16 to 20.04? [14:04] !hwe [14:04] The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [14:06] ThinkT510: I was looking at that page but couldn't tell what the final supported kernel version will be for 20.04, or what the release schedule is [14:07] I'm not sure of 22.04's kernel version [14:07] if you really need 5.16 then you could try mainline [14:07] !mainline [14:07] The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [14:07] at the moment I'm running 20.04, but getting a kernel panic and wanted to see if it was fixed in a newer kernel such as 5.16 [14:08] is mainline separate to the HWE builds? [14:08] the mainline PPA kernels are not for production use and miss a lot of features [14:08] mainline is mostly for testing [14:08] yep [14:08] wseadmin|afk-ish It's a bit complicated since I might have some data/caches outside /home but indeed an option. It's a last-resort, and I would like to try fixing it first. I might even try to see if an upgrade to 22.04 (when it's available) would work before that. Also, the desktop reinstall ioria suggested is still at 47%, I still have hopes... [14:09] to verify bugfixes if some kernel team member asks you to ... [14:10] how much "graphics memory" does this cpu have? i7-1065G7 [14:11] using wine and an installer is asking for this [14:11] yup, that's why I was more interested in the hwe builds than mainline [14:12] I was just wondering what the plan was for 20.04 as currently the latest kernel is 2.13 [14:13] Isn't it 5.15 now? [14:13] not according to https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/linux-tools-generic-hwe-20.04 unless I'm reading it wrong? [14:13] It's 5.13. it will probably get 5.15 a few weeks/months after the 22.04 release [14:14] Not sure what the usual timeline is. 5.13 came pretty fast after 21.10 [14:16] ah well, maybe I just need to try replacing mdadm with zfs [14:18] I think it comes out after 22.04.1, not after 22.04. So, in August. [14:18] yup, that's rather too long to wait, though not even sure if it will fix the issue [14:18] chilversc: Don't use ZFS if you game. Steam has been a complete ball ache for some reason. I think the scrub tool isn't used to the weird format of game packages. [14:19] My steam Library runs completely from ZFS. No problems at all [14:19] this file system is only used to store cachefilesd [14:19] You don't have to Verify games after it performs a scrub? [14:19] is it possible to use windows 10/11 for Wine? [14:20] some combination of access patterns between cachefilesd, and mdadm seems to be causing a kernel panic [14:20] I think sometimes it checks some files. But never a complete verify [14:20] Nothing that really bothers me [14:21] trafficjam: that question does not make a lot of sense [14:21] And that's being polite about it :P [14:22] Ravage: im trying to run a program with Wine, and it told me that windowx xp and windows 32-bit are no longer supported [14:23] trafficjam: Try winecfg and see your options there. [14:23] I'm pretty sure there is a maintained 32 bit version of wine [14:23] wseadmin|afk-ish: ah perfect, thanks man [14:24] You might also want to use " WINEPREFIX=/location/of/install/ winecfg " [14:25] Also try https://www.winehq.org/irc [14:28] trafficjam: you want #winehq [14:28] ioria The reinstall finished, but nothing has changed [14:40] It didn't work. "install-grub" returned no errors, still can't boot without the USB plugged in. Accidental security key but annoying. [14:40] Especially since this happened before years ago and I can't remember nor find my documentation on how to solve it. [14:42] wseadmin|afk-ish: do you want to sum up the problem you're trying to solve again? I had a quick glance on the log but could not exactly understand which problem you're trying to solve. [14:44] Aethereal, switch to tty and sudo systemctl restart gdm [14:44] Hi tomreyn . I installed Ubuntu, all appeared to be fine, except it installed the boot information for the hard drive over the boot partitions of the USB stick. [14:45] Now I am trying to get it to boot from partition(s) sda1 and sda2. [14:45] wseadmin|afk-ish: hmm, that's not a problem i've run into before. which ubuntu release + ISO are you installing, and in bios or uefi mode? [14:46] hello! [14:46] so im trying to make a custom bash prompt [14:46] but i need colours [14:46] how do i input them in? [14:47] ubuntu-18.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso (because FreeRDP v2 doesn't work well with NTLM auth Windows servers). [14:47] frost-core: what have you found online so far and what problems are you having with it? [14:48] leftyfb : i found not understandable guides [14:48] How do I check bios / EFI mode via CLI? The machine is in use, I have SSH only atm. [14:48] all of them are complicated [14:48] ioria sudo systemctl restart gdm just gives me back the blank screen with blinking underscore [14:48] frost-core: https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-unix-bash-shell-setup-prompt.html [14:49] wseadmin|afk-ish: test -d /sys/firmware/efi && echo efi || echo bios [14:49] Aethereal: Try install sddm instead of gdm? [14:49] frost-core: are you trying to create your own distro? [14:49] leftyfb : no im trying this on my ubuntu mate [14:49] i already made my distro [14:49] Aethereal, odd : dpkg -l | grep gdm | nc termbin.com 9999 (and paste the url here pleae) [14:50] Thanks Ravage it is "efi" [14:51] frost-core: if you need more in-depth help with bash, then you might try #bash [14:52] ioria https://termbin.com/39rk [14:53] Aethereal, ls /usr/share/xsessions/ | nc termbin.com 9999 [14:55] thanks lefty! it worked! [14:55] "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /sda1/boot/grub/grub.cfg" --> " Sourcing file '/etc/default/grub' /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: cannot create /sda1/boot/grub/grub.cfg.new: Directory nonexistent " [14:56] leftyfb : also do you know any guides to creating plymouth themes? [14:56] frost-core: no [14:56] ioria https://termbin.com/6qjh (did a ls -l so you can see the gnome.desktop link) [14:56] leftyfb : is there an irc channel for plymouth? [14:57] Aethereal, cd /usr/share/xsessions/ [14:57] Hi all.I'm using Ubuntu20 LTS, but the system keeps showing package installation errors and livepatch is not working.How can I solve this problem? [14:58] I don't know but you might try searching " site:omgubuntu.co.uk " they have a lot of theme stuff on there frost-core [14:58] Aethereal, and sudo mv gnome.desktop gnome.desktop.back [14:58] Aethereal, also sudo mv gnome-xorg.desktop gnome-xorg.desktop.back [14:58] wseadmin|afk-ish : thanks! [15:02] ioria Ok. [15:02] Aethereal, check if you have gnome-session-wayland installed ( dpkg -l | grep gnome-session-wayland) [15:03] ioria seems not, it get no result [15:04] Aethereal, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 [15:09] ioria done. Is the gnome-session-wayland a required package? Should I install it? (in the etc/gdm3/custom.conf there's a line WaylandEnable=false) [15:09] Aethereal, nope, not required and that line should be comneted with an hash (#) [15:10] *commented [15:11] Aethereal, is it ? [15:11] does anybody know how to get the plymouth-set-default-theme in ubuntu? [15:12] ioria it's not at the moment, maybe due to some of the internet articles I followed trying to fix it in the last weeks. I have commented it now, but still the same result restarting gdm [15:12] Depends on your desktop environment frost-core [15:12] wseadmin|afk-ish : mate? [15:13] Aethereal, ls /usr/share/wayland-sessions | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:13] Not familiar with it sorry, try search for, "Change theme Mate" perhaps? [15:14] ioria https://termbin.com/cnk0 [15:15] Aethereal, cd /usr/share/wayland-sessions and sudo mv gnome.desktop gnome.desktop.back [15:17] ioria done, no changes. [15:18] Aethereal, sudo apt autopurge , what gives ? [15:19] ioria 0 to remove. I purged several times after removing waydroid [15:20] Aethereal, please, paste : cat /etc/gdm3/custom.conf | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:21] ioria https://termbin.com/1b8r [15:24] Aethereal, is lightdm installed ? dpkg -l | grep lightdm [15:24] "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg " --> " sudo grub-install /dev/sda1 " --> "Installation finished. No error reported." [15:25] Am I missing boot flags on that partition perhaps? How do I set them? [15:25] ioria I get 4 entries, so I suppose it is [15:26] Aethereal, dpkg -l | grep mutter-common | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:27] wseadmin|afk-ish: "How do I check bios / EFI mode via CLI?" -> echo -n 'This system booted via: '; [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS [15:28] The answer was "efi" tomreyn [15:28] oh ravage told you alread [15:29] is there an app like speccy (that's for windows) but to see specs of my system on ubuntu? forgive me for the newbness. :-) [15:29] ioria https://termbin.com/3etg [15:29] Chunkyz : you can use settings -> about [15:29] !info inxi | Chunkyz [15:29] Aethereal, dpkg -l | grep mutter-common | nc termbin.com 999 [15:29] Chunkyz: inxi (3.3.06-1-1, impish): full featured system information script. In component universe, is extra. Built by inxi. Size 244 kB / 1,116 kB [15:29] wseadmin|afk-ish: did you mount all file systems before ran grub-mkconfig? [15:29] Aethereal, sorry .... [15:30] wseadmin|afk-ish: incl. the virtual ones? [15:30] Aethereal, it's wrong; you didn't purge waydroid [15:30] !info inxi | frost-core [15:30] frost-core: not using gnome. but thanks. lotuspsychje I'll look, thanks dude. [15:30] Persuader: post your errors on a pastebin [15:30] Aethereal, focal 20.04 version is 3.36.9-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 [15:30] As far as I know, all partitions were mounted. It boots as though from the hard drive but uses the USB for the boot config. tomreyn [15:30] Chunkyz : what de then?, i can tell you the about page of it [15:31] or use inxi in terminal [15:31] Aethereal, you have 3.38.4-1 and it's not an ubuntu package [15:31] ioria That's strange, if I try to remove it again, it says it's not installed anymore. Maybe some dependencies weren't removed? Even with Purge? [15:31] wseadmin|afk-ish: what happened after install, after you removed the installer usb stick, and tried to boot? [15:31] frost-core: i3-wm. inxi works though. :-) [15:32] Aethereal, sure; you need to purge all the external pkgs that come with waydroid [15:32] About to try again tomreyn they are going on a smoke break. [15:33] Aethereal, apt-forktracer | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:33] Aethereal, you probably need to install apt-forktracer [15:38] /join #kali-linux [15:38] crap sorry [15:40] ioria Yes, done. https://termbin.com/pndm [15:40] Zomg MaxPower9 is a haxxor! :o ( tomreyn same thing, when the USB is removed, I only get a blanks screen with a cursor in the top left. Boot menu has EFI: ubuntu OR Legacy: Hard Drive (neither work without the USB in)). [15:41] Aethereal, honestly, it's not good that you have all those unsupported pkgs.... [15:41] wseadmin|afk-ish: here's how you repair grub: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall#Using_A_Live_CD.2FUSB_To_Fix_Your_Current_System [15:42] Aethereal, but is the .list waydroid source still enabled ? ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d [15:42] wseadmin|afk-ish: your partitions can be different ones, of course, check with lsblk [15:43] wseadmin|afk-ish: and the "cryptsetup" command is only needed if you have opted for full disk encryption [15:44] wseadmin|afk-ish: this is a bit more compact: https://askubuntu.com/a/831241 [15:45] tomreyn: Thank you will try it. [15:46] How did you get that short answer URL? [15:46] wseadmin|afk-ish you got me [15:46] wseadmin|afk-ish: using the "share" option [15:47] ioria I suspect most packages come from the 16.04->18.04->20.04 upgrade path, except a couple I probably installed manually for some programs (like coapp or codecs). In the sources.list.d I only have external repo for "cool-retro-term" and bitcoin (that I am not using anymore). I removed the repo for waydroid as the first thing after uninstalling [15:47] it. I did an uninstall, removed repo, apt update, apt upgrade and apt purge sequence. And then got the blank screen issue === wseadmin|afk-ish is now known as wseadmin|Not-Int === wseadmin|Not-Int is now known as wse|not-Interpol [15:47] Aethereal, good : sudo apt update and apt-cache policy mutter-common | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:48] Well now MaxPower9 you have nothing to worry about. Just tell me where you are. :P Thanks tomreyn [15:48] Ha nice try, i'm not telling interpol where I am :D [15:50]  ioria https://termbin.com/urqv [15:50] please join #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic chatter MaxPower9 [15:52] Aethereal, sudo apt install mutter-common=3.36.9-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 (and paste errors if you got them) [15:54] ioria noticed it was a downgraded but no error executing it [15:54] Aethereal, apt-cache policy mutter-common | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:57] ioria https://termbin.com/ioe4 but what's more important, I did the command from a graphic terminal. It works now (or at least it looks like so) [15:57] tomreyn: " sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi " --> " mount: /mnt/boot/efi: mount point does not exist. " [15:58] Aethereal, now reboot and (if you have the login screen), select Ubuntu (on Xorg) and login [15:58] Aethereal, use the 'gear/clog' icon [16:04] tomreyn: "sudo chroot /mnt" --> "chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash': No such file or directory " [16:06] Aethereal, be right back in 10 min [16:11] hey does anybody know an alternative to algodoo? [16:12] Nope. Never heard of Algodoo (2D Physics game / learning tool / engine) and can't think of anything similar. [16:15] ioria Sorry, the reboot took a while, seems it has some housekeeping to do at boot. For some reason I still get a blank screen, and a login screen only once I go in a shell and sudo systemctl restart gdm [16:17] ioria at the login screen I can just enter my password, no need to choose any session with any clog icon [16:21] Aethereal, and what happens exactly after you enter your password ? [16:22] Aethereal, ha, ok === genii-core is now known as genii [16:22] Aethereal, dpkg -l | grep mutter | nc termbin.com 9999 [16:25] https://termbin.com/fat0 [16:26] Aethereal, mutter is ok ; dpkg -l | grep libplymouth | nc termbin.com 9999 [16:27] ioria https://termbin.com/jlrs [16:28] Aethereal, sudo apt purge libplymouth4 libplymouth2 [16:31] It wants to remove mountall* too [16:33] Aethereal, mountall ? it's the actual package name ? [16:33] ioria I see only plymouth4 appears in the forktracer output, maybe the plymouth2 is an old dependency of mountall? And do I need this package? [16:34] Aethereal, nope, 20.04 uses -5 version [16:34] mountally comes from upstart times ... [16:34] apt-cache policy mountall [16:34] So these must be lefrovers of 16.04 or 18.04 [16:34] thx ogra [16:34] Aethereal, yep [16:34] there shouldnbt be any archive entry for it on your system [16:35] (likely some upgrade leftover) [16:35] Yes ogra, only in var/lib/dpkg/status [16:35] right, safe to remove [16:35] I'll answer yes to remove all then [16:37] Aethereal, ls /var/lib/apt/lists | grep -i way [16:37] Done. It processed triggers for dbus and ureadahead doing that. The first one might be that [16:37] ioria no result for that command [16:38] good [16:38] Aethereal, sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target [16:39] ioria Done [16:40] Aethereal, your kernel ? uname -r [16:40] 5.4.0-64-generic [16:41] Aethereal, nope, too old [16:41] Aethereal, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [16:42] 0 upgrades [16:42] !info linux-generic focal [16:42] linux-generic (5.4.0.100.104, focal): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta. Size 2 kB / 19 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x.) [16:43] Aethereal, dpkg -l | grep linux-generic [16:44] Nothing [16:44] Aethereal, sudo apt install --reinstall linux-generic [16:45] tomreyn: I think the problem is that it is not booting from the USB. It is booting from the hard drive using the config on the USB. The guides and "boot-repair" decline to work. [16:46] Actually, it say linux-generic is a new package not previously selected [16:46] But ti's installing it [16:47] Aethereal, when it's done, again : sudo apt full-upgrade [16:50] ioria 0 to upgrade [16:51] Aethereal, ok, reboot [16:55] ioria ALL OK [16:56] Aethereal, well done [16:56] ioria It boots in the graphical login manager, and I get a gnome session. All seems restored [16:56] Aethereal, ok [16:57] Many thanks ioria wse|not-Interpol ogra and all [16:57] Aethereal, we'r welcm [16:57] tomreyn: Thanks for trying. I am heading out for the weekend. Good times to you all. o7 [16:58] hello, so why is my zip file binary saying January 1st 1980? [16:59] frost-core: you're going to have to give more info than that. Regardless, I am 99% sure this is not an ubuntu issue [17:00] leftyfb : i download the powder toy, and then open the zip with engrampa, for some reason it says 1980 on the executable, and i am questioning it [17:01] frost-core: ok, contact "powder toy" for support for that completely non-critical issue [17:03] frost-core: That's the default date for a null record. [17:04] frost-core: 1/1/1980 is the FAT32 0 epoch, I've seen it in macos when copying files over the dates are converted incorrectly [17:05] frost-core: It strongly suggests that there was an error in the creation of the archive, or possibly during it's download. [17:05] jhutchins : but when extracting, game runs fine =# [17:06] frost-core: then there is no issue [17:07] i mean its just a question [17:09] frost-core: but not even ubuntu related [17:10] one thing is that how do i install cedarview? like this fedora guy did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQLmRMPVa5g [17:10] frost-core: also offtopic i guess [17:12] frost-core: cedarview are intel drivers. Why do you think you need that? [17:12] leftyfb : i really need that driver, but i have to use kernel 3.2 [17:12] which is sad :( [17:12] what? [17:13] leftyfb : i need kernel 3.2 to run that driver [17:13] frost-core: ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [17:13] frost-core: why do you think you need that driver? [17:13] leftyfb : its a gpu driver [17:13] frost-core: why do you think you need that driver? [17:14] its because some games lag out hard [17:14] https://termbin.com/12w2 [17:15] frost-core: lspci |grep VGA | nc termbin.com 9999 [17:15] https://termbin.com/1c3t [17:16] but it runs llvmpipe [17:16] Hello all, just a quick question, if I am using a couple of laptops > ThinkPad X1 Carbon 4th and Latitude E6510 0001 and also Latitude E6540 01 would this be the must recommended kernel on Ubuntu 20.04.3  LTS 5.13.0-28-generic ? === vit is now known as Guest6792 === Guest6792 is now known as freeworld [17:17] The reason I ask is because by default the kernel all the three systems uses are the generic one, but I think I notice that there is a version Kernel: 5.13.0-30-generic available, and if I want to have the latest up to date support for the different laptops wouldn't be a bad idea to upgrade to that? [17:17] frost-core: games lag hard because you have a low spec machine with only 2GB RAM i believe? [17:18] ^ [17:18] Maik : i used to run windows with games, good performance cause it used opengl, linux, TERRIBLE JUNK PERFORMANCE! [17:18] if only intel could make drivers for the latest kernel [17:19] frost-core: get a new machine [17:19] frost-core: an Atom processor with 2G of memory and Intel graphics is not a gaming platform [17:19] exactly [17:19] leftyfb : but it used to run supertux fast i guess, and supertuxkart [17:22] frost-core: again, you have a low spec machine, don't expect it to run well with any OS and what you try to do. deal with it [17:26] If the same hardware is fast under one OS and slow under a different OS, it is not the hardware that makes the difference. [17:26] jair: Is there any hardware on either laptop that does not seem to be fully supported? [17:29] jhutchins, I noticed that with the `20.04.3 LTS 5.13.0-24-generic` my third monitor kept going offline (connected via HDMI) but with  kernel `20.04.3 LTS 5.13.0-28-generic` the issue improved [17:29] I mean the third monitor goes offline less often [17:29] is there a nice, simple way in a script to test if a ZFS pool exists? I got close with "zpool list -Ho health $pool" but if the pool doesn't exist it outputs an error message, and I wanted to avoid parsing error messages [17:30] jhutchins but I am not sure if it was the kernel version [17:30] I'm just after a simple true/false to test if a specific pool exists [17:30] i may sell my nb and get an older, linux supported pc probably === GiverOfDomains is now known as Guest8016 [17:31] I do notice that there is now a version `20.04.3 LTS 5.13.0-30-generic` so I wanted to know if there will be improvements on it, I tried to find the Ubuntu kernel release notes... [17:33] jhutchinsand interesting this is that I see the kernel available for installation on two systems but in this laptop it is not available hummm > `Latitude E6540 01` [17:33] same installation media I used for all three systems [17:34] After upgrading to 21.10, I have no working sound. How can I fix this? [17:37] VadimP, pulseaudio -k && sudo alsa force-reload # might fix it, setting to defaults [17:38] It said "E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process" but still no sound [17:40] And if you just type pulseaudio? [17:41] Does it start or fail to start? [17:41] jair: Is that kernel already installed? Kernel release notes may be available "upstream" at kernel.org. [17:42] jair: It's probably a good idea to read them, several recent kernels have had "reversion" issues with support for previously working hardware. [17:42] I deleted .pulse and .config/pulse, ran 'pulseaudio --start' and that exited without error, but still no sound. 'pulseaaudio' on its own says daemon already running [17:43] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FMxsdC9sXF/ [17:43] jhutchins it is installed in the other two systems but in this one for some reason it is not available when checking with synaptic `Latitude E6540 01` I will check the kernel.org details as Ubuntu/Canonical uses the same [17:44] VadimP, and into sound settings, anything unusual? [17:44] VadimP: try "sudo apt install pavucontrol" and then "pavucontrol" [17:44] sound hdmi>your card [17:44] see if it shows any devices [17:44] alsamixer could do the same [17:46] there is nothing odd. I have a video playing and the sound bar is jumping around. No sound is coming out, neither from my monitor nor the headset I have plugged in - https://streamable.com/wtz2yr [17:47] pavucontrol is too complicated to make sense of but I see nothing wrong - https://imgur.com/a/QmaY64b [17:49] What else can I try? Downgrading is not an option as this was a forced upgrade [17:50] check "output devices" [17:50] maybe its muted there. and how is your headset connected? does it show up in output devices? [17:51] it shows sound be playing there: https://imgur.com/a/IBBIqSM [17:52] change digital out to analog? [17:54] yep. also HDMI looks good. there should be sound over HDMI when you select it as the output device of an application [17:58] hdmi, oke, but not digital [17:59] helo am poland [18:16] hi, a program is looking for https://bpa.st/7HZQ libxcb-xinput.so.0 in various locations. What ships this, if any, on Ubuntu 16.04? [18:16] Looks like libxcb-xinput0 is only available from 18.04. What was there before? [18:17] My Ship [18:18] lpapp, yes, only on 18.04, and 16.04 is EOL, dead jim [18:19] so, good luck with that vulnerable old version [18:21] cant hav [18:24] knightSoul: /join #ubuntu-offtopic - this is a support channel. thank you. :-) [19:09] I want to do-release-upgrade on a bionic but after apt upgrade there is "1 not installed" which --upgradable says is docker-ce I have from "https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu bionic/stable amd64 Packages", however, if I upgrade that, dpkg fails to configure, journalctl says SIGSEGV on the service [19:10] the previous version works fine, which i downgraded to. how do you work around this? [19:19] mncheck: Are you using docker? [19:19] jhutchins, yes [19:19] mncheck: Does the new version have any essential features you need to use? [19:19] I have 82 images [19:20] jhutchins, I don't care about the docker version, just want to go from bionic to focal [19:20] jhutchins, so, no [19:21] Sounds like the correct response is to go get yourself a refreshing beverage and find something productive to work on. [19:21] Revisit the upgrade next week. [19:30] what is the correct way to select the "test" suite with apt-get? docker I've added a bionic/test line with the docker sources.list === tscott_ is now known as tscott [19:35] they have "edge" "nightly" "stable" and "test" and I'm currently on stable [19:42] hjhk [19:47] oh it's not a suite but a component [19:57] I have "deb [arch=amd64] https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu bionic stable test nightly", trying "apt-get it nightly instasll docker-ce" and getting "'nightly' is invalid for APT::Default-Release", not sure what did I do wrong [19:59] mncheck, change to focal ? anyway, i would remove docker and the repo, until after upgrade and add it again [19:59] oerheks, I'm still on bionic [19:59] i think it should be disabled anyway during upgrade [19:59] oerheks, I faintly remember once removing docker which deleted all my images in the past, which I don't want [20:00] no it should not, not without --purge. and if you have no backup, those images are unimportant [20:02] mncheck: Hopefully you have since instated a policy of backing up your images to something external to the development sysem. [20:02] system. [20:02] your /home/ folder would do.. [20:03] I don't understand why -t nightly is not selecting anything [20:21] well leaving only nightly avoids the problem by chance [20:22] Does anyone remember the name of the project that was developing a way to centrally manage GNOME settings in a way like Windows does group policy? IIRC, it was Flight-something [20:28] i have php 7.4 installed but when trying to apt-get install php-sqlite3, it keeps trying to install php8 stuff. how do i stop this? --no-install-recommends does not do anything [20:29] actually ignore that found my issue [20:32] php74-sqlite3 ? [20:32] :D [21:07] good day all [21:09] I think I finally got my Ubuntu to stop freezing and to load up at a decent speed after disabling fsck at start-up. I have to ask myself when I spend days modifying scripts to get Linux to run right if it's really worth it all? [21:09] But if I go back to Windows, eventually, I'll miss it. [21:10] adderall, it's definitly worth it [21:10] You tell me how it's worth it, boss? [21:10] I mostly use it because I like the fact that I can make it do whatever I want and I don't have to worry about malware so much. [21:10] adderall, nlike windows, you learn more about the system, and configuring it [21:10] This is true. [21:10] You learn about computer science. [21:11] It would be the best if my interviewers didn't keep asking me PowerShell and Windows questions though. [21:11] Have you ever run rkhunter, coz_? [21:11] adderall, i have ot [21:11] not [21:12] Try it. It's interesting. I've found that the Linux anti-malware or anti-rootkit programs are a lot more thorough than Windows stuff. It will flag a lot of stuff that consists of false positives for most people but you'll learn about what something should look for auditing in a production environment. [21:13] update not looking very smooth [21:13] Yeah, see, mncheck is going through the rounds like I did [21:13] If he's got tenacity, he won't reinstall [21:13] Might wanna change your kernel mncheck ... if all else fails [21:17] Hey guys! Can someone help me ? :D https://askubuntu.com/questions/1393594/usb-microphone-does-not-work-on-ubuntu-21-10 [21:19] I can try to help, Mitacho [21:19] I just stepped in here. [21:19] What's up? [21:19] "DRELANMIC: device is a keyboard" [21:19] cute [21:20] I am new here too, haha. [21:20] K, I DM'd you, Mitacho [21:20] ? [21:20] *direct message [21:20] Oh, OK [21:20] If you're talking to me [21:21] OK adderall, I will reply you in direct message. [21:23] but why? [21:23] there's an entire channel of people here to help [21:23] are there release upgrade instructions for a specific package somewhere? [21:24] mncheck: sometimes the release notes have notes on specific packages, yeah [21:32] sarnold, my smb.conf from bionic uses an idmap backend that doesn't seem to be available in focal === adderall is now known as rm-rf [21:36] mncheck: hrm :( bummer, I don't see anything like that on the focal release notes. there's an sssd module for idmap, I wonder if that's the expected replacement [21:37] sarnold, I don't know if I change the idmap backend wouldn't the established ids be messed up [21:37] mncheck: see if this helps? https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/service-sssd [21:37] sarnold, I use that for new configurations but I don't think it says anything about idmap [21:38] :( [21:45] I edited my post on askubuntu, I added some more informations. === coconut_ is now known as coconut [21:46] Please help me, I don't want to have to install Windows just for the sake of a microphone. [21:47] hi to all === diskin_ is now known as diskin [21:49] What - you don't have to install Windows [21:49] https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/529646/how-to-find-out-the-internal-microphones-driver-on-a-linux-pc [21:50] ( Sorry guys, that are the results generated by Google Translate ) [21:50] Thanks rm-rf, I am going to check it out. [21:52] Run alsamixer [21:52] https://askubuntu.com/questions/4564/how-do-i-install-my-microphone [21:55] Mitacho: this might help http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man1/usb_modeswitch.1.html [21:55] Yes, man pages are where it's at [21:56] or [21:57] Cool, I'm taking a look. [21:58] Yeah, I'm gonna take a walk. I don't get enough exercise. [21:58] Again, DM me if you get stuck. I can almost guarantee you there's a fix. Let me check something else really quick [21:59] You need to find out what chipset it uses. [21:59] Thank you guys very much! [22:00] I am trying yet. [22:00] Also, assuming it's a usb mic, do lsusb [22:00] So, make sure it's at least picking up from the bus [22:00] We will make it! [22:00] If the bus can't read it, that's your first issue. [22:00] If it reads at the bus level, go from there. [22:01] It is here: Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0c76:120c JMTek, LLC. DRELANMIC [22:01] K ... now. Give me one set [22:01] *sec [22:01] OK! [22:01] Where do I post images here for code? [22:01] rm-rf: bpa.st [22:01] rm-rf, https://bpa.st/ for example [22:04] K ... But you still need info on the driver. [22:05] https://serverfault.com/questions/984643/how-to-find-out-which-device-corresponds-for-sys-bus-usb-devices-devicen [22:06] I just uploaded the code for that but you need to read the link as well. [22:06] Debian has a pci id database that references known drivers, but I haven't seen anything for usb. [22:07] rm-rf, you need to paste the link to show the code you pasted :) [22:07] I did paste the link [22:07] it's that serverfault.com link above, haha [22:07] https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60078/find-out-which-modules-are-associated-with-a-usb-device [22:08] And one more link: hamwaves.com/usb.autosuspend/en/ [22:08] This is A LOT. I don't wanna just flood this chat with links. But, after you go through all of those, get back to me or us. [22:08] I'll be back in a bit [22:09] I am trying to execute the script [22:09] But I cant dot it even logged in as root, ahahah. [22:09] xargs: ./usb2sys: Permissão negada [22:10] Permissão negada = " Permission denied " [22:10] run it with sudo [22:11] Yes, what he said [22:11] or, even better: do < sudo -i > so you stay in root during all of this [22:12] Umm, is even better. Sudo -s will go to root but under the user so not full root. [22:12] side note: dont run things as root you dont understand what does. [22:12] *root oft he user [22:12] Also does not allow. Neither using sudo nor using sudo -i [22:12] dont copy paste things you dont understand [22:12] I'm agreeing with everything Mathisen is saying so far [22:12] But, if you break it, since it's Linux ... you can almost always fix it [22:12] Unless you start messing around with something like the GRUB or fstab [22:13] If you're talking to me, I understand them, dude [22:13] I've run the scripts that I'm sharing, along with the commands for priviledge etc [22:15] How about "run it with bash (or whatever shell it wants). bash /path/to/script [22:17] rm-rf: sudo -s is indeed full root [22:18] Sorry guys, I am stuck. I am trying to pass the vendor id to usb_modeswitch but it says: No default vendor/product ID given. Abort [22:18] This is the command I ran: sudo usb_modeswitch -v 0x0c76 [22:23] https://imgur.com/a/1sB7WdQ [22:23] rm-rf this script could not be executed. [22:24] That* [22:25] Mitacho, well you you are not running xargs as sudo.. when you pipe something example " command 1 | command 2 " you need to enter sudo for both commands if you need to run them as root. so it would be " sudo command 1 | sudo command 2 " [22:25] chmod 755 usb2sys will fix the permissions problem [22:25] but what's the point of that script? [22:25] Oh! [22:25] what will you do once you've got the /sys path of the device? [22:27] https://imgur.com/a/EyNHSf3 [22:28] I don't know yet, actually. ahaa [22:29] It is here, rm-rf. I could ran the command thanks to sarnold. [22:36] can I ask about ubuntu chrome here? === JanC is now known as Guest5415 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [22:37] yeah [22:39] My last option will be to create my own USB microphone [22:40] OK I havent used this laptop for a year and the chromebookmarks are all out of phase. I cant update chrome, must reinstall but if it synchs I am afraid that these old bookmarks will mess things up. How can I erase all my chrome data before I reinstall the new version of chrome. (thanks for being here sarnold. I m morganu too) [22:40] clear your old bookmarks, export them on the new system and import them to the old. [22:46] That isnt the idea. I want ot clear all my chrome data off this laptop before I reinstall chrome and synch. Things are fine with chrome on my home computer. [22:47] Maybe I need to read what you said a couple of more times. [22:47] Now I understand. Thanks jhutchins [22:48] djenna: I have no experience with chrome, but I would not expect old user data to persist through a reinstall. [22:49] https://superuser.com/questions/306923/what-does-sudo-s-actually-do [22:49] djenna: Oh, er, outside the browser that is. [22:49] ... On the "sudo -s" earlier. Like I said, it's root for the user but not full admin root. There are higher privilges beyond sudo -s [22:50] Also, Chromium is the default browser for Linux. Although I do use Chrome myself and I prefer it. [22:50] I couldn't solve the problem with the USB microphone today. Anyway, thanks a lot for the help guys! I'll try to solve it another day. [22:50] *default Google browser. [22:50] I can figure out the mic issue. [22:52] rm-rf: Default browser depends on the distribution. I know of several major ones that don't use chrom(ium). [22:53] rm-rf Oh! cool. I'll stay here, if you mention me I'll respond! [22:54] Mitacho: You might do some web searching using the USB ID and the hardware info you got. [22:54] OK! [22:54] Mitacho: Chances of someone here actually knowing about your specific hardware are pretty small. [22:55] djenna, f you login with google, your bookmarks are restored, AFAIK [22:55] and xtentions [23:05] https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxCirclejerk/ [23:05] !offtopic [23:05] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. 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