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lotuspsychjegood morning02:47
EickmeyerI really hate playing those cards, but they left me no choice. >.<04:49
Bashing-omEickmeyer: Tou do good works :D04:52
EickmeyerThanks, Bashing-om. :) Not looking for praise, but man, that one just wouldn't back off.04:52
Bashing-omEickmeyer: Uh huh - and moreso is communicating to the communtity the why-so. Even I was not aware of the why dropping the minimal-cd.04:56
EickmeyerBashing-om: Yeah, the TB kinda dropped the ball on that one, to be fair. I don't recall a ML piece about it, but I think there was discussion in the disciouse with a very-well reasoned write-up by vorlon.05:02
EickmeyerBashing-om: Basically, the publication of the mini.iso was a consequence of debian-installer doing its thing by spitting it out as a result of the germinate process, and was never an official way to install.05:03
EickmeyerIf one wants to experience something similar, the server iso along with tasksel should do the trick.05:04
Bashing-omEickmeyer: I did it a cpuple of times - was a pain tracking down and installing some of the support structures. Then unit193 put out his core install - was much saner :D05:05
EickmeyerYeah, very likely.05:05
Bashing-omEickmeyer: However - unit194 advises he is not going to do another (20.04 to be the last) - lack of feedback and support. So next on my learning curve will be building from the server .iso :P05:09
EickmeyerYeah, I saw something about that. Too bad, but I guess it didn't have much publicity.05:09
oerheksunit194, haven't seen him a long time05:10
Bashing-omoerheks: Still around - and still holding my hand as needed :P05:11
oerheksoh oke05:12
Bashing-omoerheks: For funnzies unit193 changes his nick in the Winter-time. Becomes JackFrost.05:14
ducassegood morning07:42
marcoagpintoHello!08:07
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oerheksogra, 4th opinion please :-P10:24
ograhaha10:24
oerhekshi marcoagpinto 10:24
oerheks& ducasse 8-)10:24
marcoagpinto:)10:26
oerhekssometimes i wish i had ops .. 10:34
Jeremy31not really10:39
oerheksJeremy31, and sometimes i wish you make me coffee10:40
oerhekssudo sandwich10:40
Jeremy31I don't make coffee10:40
oerhekswell, it is good to have something to wish for10:41
Ravagemaking coffee right now. you can have a cup or two10:41
lotuspsychjeJeremy31: im still testing wifi without energy mode, but had a few disconnects already, so not sure its bug #1960817 yet10:46
ubottuBug 1960817 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Network Manager sets powersave on by default, thus making many WiFi connections unreliable" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196081710:46
Jeremy31lotuspsychje: ok, I usually have 40% signal or less and don't see any disconnects but I ditch the power save soon after install10:59
lotuspsychjeJeremy31: bug #1949065 is my original11:02
ubottuBug 1949065 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu Jammy) "Wireless-AC 9260 iwlwifi unstable and connection drops" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194906511:02
lotuspsychjeusualy happens when more multitask browsing around11:02
Jeremy31Do you need the P2P?11:07
lotuspsychjeJeremy31: what do you mean?11:15
Jeremy31The wifi log showed  manager: (p2p-dev-wlp2s0): new 802.11 Wi-Fi P2P device11:15
lotuspsychjei didnt do nothing, a default jammy here following the update cycle11:21
Jeremy31I might have to down jammy, see what it does11:23
Jeremy31I see some errors because of UBSAN on the 5.15 kernel11:24
lotuspsychjeif you need some logs or commands, i can trigger11:24
lotuspsychjeconfiguration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlwifi driverversion=5.15.0-18-generic firmware=46.4e1ceb39.0 9260-th-b0-jf-b0- ip=192.168.1.4 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.1111:25
Jeremy31are there a lot of APs in the area?11:25
lotuspsychjegot 2 neighbours with possible wifi11:26
Jeremy31So it shouldn't be using a crowded channel then11:27
lotuspsychje7 ssids around me11:27
lotuspsychjeso more then 2 neighbours11:27
Jeremy31Hopefully not all using the same channel11:27
lotuspsychjei still suspect kernel, as same chipset here worked like a charm on focal11:28
Jeremy31I have 5.15.0-22 installed, but I am booted into 5.13 as touchpad has issues with 5.1511:30
lotuspsychjekk11:30
Jeremy31Intel 946111:31
lotuspsychjebit newer then mine, product: Wireless-AC 926011:31
Jeremy31Have to hook a mouse up and see what 5.15 will do with it after work11:31
Jeremy31I do have a 8265 I can put in the other laptop11:34
Eickmeyerlotuspsychje: RE: bug 1949065, looks like some additional information was requested and the bug is marked "incomplete". You might want to get that information and re-mark the bug as "New" otherwise it'll expire in about a month.16:59
ubottuBug 1949065 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu Jammy) "Wireless-AC 9260 iwlwifi unstable and connection drops" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194906516:59
lotuspsychjeEickmeyer: i was a bit unsure what to do, as i never went on -proposed as the dev requested, i filed the bug on 5.13 and now jammy reached 5.15 my bug persists17:11
Eickmeyerlotuspsychje: Oh, then report back your findings and mark it at new. That simple17:12
lotuspsychjeok, tnx17:12
lotuspsychjedone Eickmeyer 17:15
Eickmeyerlotuspsychje: :)17:15
oerheksMaik, somehow i have a feeling that frost-core is an old troll19:17
oerhekssqueezing my brain to find a name.19:18
Maikhe's a bored kid, nothing more :)19:18
Maikoerheks: let me know when you found out19:18
ednashIs it a common practice to keep a Ubuntu Desktop always on?19:47
daftykinsthe OS would not be relevant to that 19:53
ednashTrue that. I've converted a Windows machine yesterday, am trying to learn the standard practices. Since I asked how I can keep ubuntu on while ssh is connected, someone suggested to keep it always on.19:56
ednashI learned on further research that I can use a sleep hook with pm-action, by placing a script on /etc/pm/sleep.d. I am no stranger to codes, so that sounded like a good way to do what I want - add a hook that checks if ssh is connected and prevent sleep if it is.19:58
ednashTruth is though I'm new to having a linux desktop; so I wanted to get my grounding right before veering off on my own :)19:59
daftykinshonestly i never used sleep on any OS in over 30 years20:07
daftykinsif you're not using it, it goes off - aside from a personal home server that has 24x7 roles20:07
ednash"if you're not using it, it goes off" - you mean you turn it off manually. i am forgetful, sometimes it would stay on for days if i do that20:11
ednashbut i'm learning it may not be as big a deal as i thought it was20:11
daftykinsshutdown before bed / leaving the house isn't too hard to remember!20:24
Bashing-omUWN: Issue723 now available: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue723 :D21:03
daftykinsMonday confirmed!21:09

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