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ednashAre LVM's resilient to - say - booting from another drive?03:36
ednashI mean is the logical data part of the operating system which created them, or are distributed and part of the disks?03:36
ednashI think it should be the later - but don't know for sure.03:37
lotuspsychjegood morning04:22
marcoagpintolotuspsychje!04:32
marcoagpintomorning!04:32
lotuspsychjehowdy04:32
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ducassegood morning08:19
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leftyfbyrdsb43 is a known troll/dumb kid in school15:25
leftyfbhttps://termbin.com/4uayk15:26
lotuspsychjeright15:28
null_userYeah ... 15:44
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Maikleftyfb: just tell them to stop trolling16:49
leftyfbyeah, that works16:49
Maiki bet they know very well that the old releases are EOL16:50
leftyfbthe idiot actually used his school district acronym for his IRC user and nick 17:38
Maiktime they k-line him17:41
Ravageandrew2 forgot to change his user info. its still our stupid school guy :)18:15
lotuspsychjeand his friend chunkyz also plays along :p18:17
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leftyfbI love how I'm being that I'm being too harsh by an op who has posted exactly 49 times in the channel since it was created on this network19:09
leftyfbwe need more ops19:09
Maiki said many times before we need more ops19:11
Maikbut who am i...19:11
leftyfbI've been saying this for well over a decade19:13
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spambotGo on. If ya can't trust spam, who is ya? 19:17
spambotWho can ya trust? 19:17
leftyfbspambot: stop19:17
Maikspambot: please stop trolling19:18
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rm_rfls 19:19
rm_rf*k19:19
rm_rfThere - I'm no longer spam. 19:19
Maikchange your nick and stop the nonsense rm_rf19:20
leftyfbsee, really not that difficult 19:21
Maikthanks19:21
Maikthey are in offtopic too... lol19:21
leftyfbhere we go again20:02
leftyfbogra: you know that's just aderall right?20:17
leftyfbkrytarik's buddy20:17
ograyeah 🙂 20:17
leftyfbbtw, I vote no confidence in krytarik20:18
Eickmeyerleftyfb: That's a road you don't want to go down.20:20
leftyfboh?20:20
EickmeyerTrust.20:20
leftyfbsomeone is posts maybe twice a month and has only ever removed 2 people since this network started?20:21
leftyfbis/who/20:22
leftyfbas usual, we cater to the proven trolls and reprimand the people trying to keep them out. Nothing has changed in well over a decade. sarnold I thought you were one of the good ones20:27
daftykinshe is! my cat keeps him in line... what's he meant to be doing wrong?20:28
sarnoldleftyfb: well, the truth is, you and Maik seem to add gasoline to every interaction that's going on..20:30
Maikand thanks sarnold20:30
sarnoldleftyfb: we get constant complaints about how rude you guys can be20:30
leftyfbsarnold: if we had ops around that handled them before they got out of hand, maybe that wouldn't happen20:30
daftykinsMaik: well i know that much and i'm not even in there...20:30
sarnoldleftyfb: aye, perhaps20:30
sarnoldleftyfb: but a few kind words to redirect folks is almost always a better approach than just swinging a banhammer20:31
sarnoldleftyfb: I've had a conversation with rm_rf, he'll probably behave better in the future, hopefully that's enough to calm things back down to the point where we can make this a happy place for people20:32
leftyfbsarnold: and when(not if) he starts his antics again, trying to push buttons and see how far he gets and there's no ops around? Just let him fill the channel with garbage so that people looking for help either don't bother or are missed or get wrong information right?20:33
sarnoldleftyfb: yeah, if that happens again, we can either have a conversation or swing ban hammers20:33
sarnoldleftyfb: but I think a *huge* portion of why he does it is because it gets a reaction out of you two20:34
leftyfbsarnold: only if "we" is around. That is 95% of the problem20:34
sarnoldleftyfb: yeah20:34
Maikat least act faster and kick the one out that doesn't behave, not ban but just kick... it's easy as that20:34
Maikfirst we have 30 minutes troll behaviour of a kid then another moron follows, it's normal that i react that why20:35
Maikwhy/way20:36
leftyfbsarnold: mind me asking where you're getting these complaints?20:38
sarnoldleftyfb: private messages20:39
Maikfrom whom?20:40
sarnoldfrom people who've had poor experiences in #ubuntu20:41
Maikabout me and leftyfb only?20:42
sarnoldI don't know about "only", but certainly I hear that our irc channel is not very friendly20:43
ograit clearly got less friendly compared to ... say 10y ago ... but so got the trolls 20:45
Maikthey shouldn't complain since it's the same everywhere else and i know channels where it's even worse, i guess it's the people and the time we're living in.20:45
ograthough i'm in sarnold's boat here that you guys are pretty fast on the trigger with kicks/bans 20:45
leftyfbogra: I've been saying for years, there's no point in hand-holding a blatant troll. 20:47
Maiki'm sure willing to change my attitude if that helps but it will take some time to adjust due my burnout which is the main reason i react the way i do lately.20:48
leftyfbI'd be curious to know how many times someone has complained about me and the op went back and saw in the logs that they had legitimate support issues and weren't being helped and I was being rude20:48
Maikif a annoying person in the channel is asked kindly to stop then they should stop, if they don't stop after the third time asking to do so they should be dealt with by a op.20:52
leftyfb^20:52
leftyfb95% of the problem20:52
Maikthe annoyance should go on for 30 minutes in a row20:52
sarnoldleftyfb: I think we create our own trolls through heavy-handed responses. sure there's always going to be skraitos and lizard crew and so on, but most folks just come here looking for help and get yelled at that they asked the wrong kind of question or about the wrong software, etc20:52
Maikshould/shouldn't20:53
sarnoldfull ack on "asked kindly", I guess i just see that missing often20:54
leftyfbsarnold: your example does happen quite a bit and yes, I do get a bit aggravated with people going about an issue the wrong way. I certainly don't "yell" but I do try to dig down into their actual issue. Yes, when they refuse, I shut down20:54
sarnoldaye, it's only natural.. it happens to me too20:55
Maikjust look at that yrdsb kid whom just couldn't quit... a libera staff member had to step in and deal with the issue while it was your job to do so20:55
sarnoldbut we're all here to help folks, right?20:55
Maikof course we are20:56
* daftykins puts his hand up20:56
daftykinsno sir!20:56
sarnoldlol20:56
sarnoldokay everyone here *except mischief* is here to help folks, right?20:56
Maikdaftykins: go tickle your cat :P20:56
daftykinswe're not speaking, she didn't get a second portion of fish xD21:01

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