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ednashto be able to ssh into ubuntu i will just install openssh-server, right?00:07
ednashwhy would i ever want to install the openssh-client? doesn't ubuntu already support ssh command natively?00:08
ednashls00:14
sarnoldednash: yes, openssh-client is inthe default install for many versions of ubuntu, but perhaps not all00:16
ednashoh i see, makes sense. thanks00:20
esvhello folks, is there a way to do an LVM disk encryption install on a partitioned disk ?01:14
esvor encrypt the live system? reboots are ok01:14
oerheksi think LVM wants whole disk, AFAIK01:17
VIAyo simple question, hope someone might have some input: how would i go about defining/setting P"rocess priorities" within ubuntu?01:21
VIAcoming from windows i could always set any proces from low, very low, medium, high and realtime01:22
RavageVIA: renice01:22
VIAeither through GUI or by starting an executable with the right arguments01:22
sarnoldVIA: nice, renice, schedtool, rtkit01:22
VIAthats plents of options ? uhhm01:23
sarnoldVIA: systemd units can also CPUSchedulingPriority= directive, too01:23
VIAsince i cant be certain, for now, that i could easily start software with arguments to make it so, a tool that offers me a GUI for now would be preferable01:24
VIA im looking nice/renice up righ t now01:24
Ravagenice starts a process with a given prio01:25
Ravagerenice changes a running one01:25
RavageI'm not sure but the gnome system monitor may be able to set it too01:27
VIAhmm looks like i understand the workenings of "renice" but nowhere does it mention what actual options i have01:27
lilgopher_________: nice nick01:27
VIAeg what numbers mean which priorization01:28
VIAi use xfce, no gnome01:28
RavageThe nice value range is -20 to +19 where -20 is highest, 0 default and +19 is lowest.01:28
sarnold       Niceness values range from -20 (most favorable to the01:28
sarnold       process) to 19 (least favorable to the process).01:28
red_herringHello, I'm having trouble setting up ssh to work over the internet on my ubuntu 20.04 server, if anyone could help me figure out what I am missing01:33
red_herringWhat I have done so far:01:33
red_herringhttps://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/JN6crTmPwf/01:33
VIAwhat are the possible values in renice ?01:34
VIAahhhh thxalot Ravage <301:34
oerhekssudo ufw list# would give a list of pre-sets01:35
oerheks*hint*01:35
VIAthink i owuldnt mind a simple gui tool01:35
oerhekserr sudo  ufw app list01:35
VIAhaving a hard time with PID's01:36
VIAi like htop but its way loaded, its hard for me to figure out what the correct parent-task would be to fiffle with01:36
RavageVIA: open system montitor. you can change the prio there01:37
jhutchinsred_herring: That's really nothing useful.01:37
oerhekssudo ufw allow ssh https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ufw-allow-incoming-ssh-connections-from-a-specific-ip-address-subnet-on-ubuntu-debian/01:37
VIAsudo ufw app list01:37
VIA[sudo] password for decoy:01:37
VIAAvailable applications:01:37
VIA  CUPS01:37
VIA^^ ---- OoOo01:37
oerheksthat is a check if the application has acces01:37
jhutchinsred_herring: what happens when you try to connect?  What do you get when you use the -vvv (verbose) option?01:37
VIAyess system monitor" how do u get it?01:38
VIAdoesnt seem to be on my distro01:38
oerheksso, your cups is reachable from the notwork, as it should01:38
Ravagepress the windows key. start typing "system monitor"01:38
Ravageif your distro is any supported Ubuntu this is installed by default01:39
VIAlike i just mentioned it is not01:39
red_herringI have already done sudo ufw allow [port #] , I do not have another linux machine to connect to this one so I am using putty, let me see if there is a way to get verbose output01:40
RavageVIA: run "cat /etc/issue|nc termbin.com 9999" in a terminal and send the link here01:41
VIAall info in link created is " Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS \n \l " Ravage01:43
VIAiv seen a screenshiot of "system monitor" nad this might be exactly what i want to eese things for th beginning01:44
Ravageif you used the default ubuntu installer that application must exist01:44
Ravagebut the package is called "gnome-system-monitor"01:45
sarnoldVIA: try installing gnome-system-monitor ? that looks plausible01:45
Ravageso just install it01:45
VIAapt install gnome-system-monitor ?01:46
Ravagewith sudo if you are not root01:46
Ravagesudo apt install gnome-system-monitor01:47
VIA:)01:47
VIAalrighdy good it sweet now lets see01:48
Bashing-omVIA: as you run xfce4 - pay attention as the what Gnome dependencies you pull in ^ .01:48
red_herringjhutchins: "ssh: connect top host (ip addr) port (#): connection timed out01:48
VIAwhat exactly do you mean Bashing-om ?01:48
bleiis there a way to install gcc-601:48
VIApersonally im wary having too much different/wild different desktop enviroment stuff at the same time01:48
VIApretty sure this is part what has been ruining my experience partially01:49
Bashing-omVIA: Differnet code bases for the desktop environment - could get some bloat and maybe some DE conflicts - maybe ?01:49
VIAbut this distro is for CAD/creation music/ imagery orograms photo/drawings tool et all so i do understand why thwy would try to maximize compatibility01:50
VIAahh i think im good for now thx everyone!!! <301:51
VIAthe nice~ stuffs is pretty straightforwards. systemmonitor looks liek it can ease things up for me for startes01:51
sarnoldblei: you could install bionic in an lxd or VM or something, I guess https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-601:51
bleisarnold i installed repos going all the way back to trusty but i don't see 6 so far01:51
bleii see gcc-801:52
bleii am using  apt-cache search gcc | grep gcc | grep 601:52
bleii have gcc-7 avail as well01:53
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/ppa01:54
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test01:54
sarnoldblei: heh, gcc-6 binaries are in universe http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gcc-6/  and not main http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-6/   -- so make sure you've got universe enabled in your bionic instance01:54
red_herring20jhutchins: lost connection, if you responded I missed it unfortunately. Here is the full output https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/S6sK3PM822/01:54
bleisarnold just to clarify i do not have a bionic instance, i have a jammy instance, with all repos going back to trusty in sources.list, including universe / multiverse01:55
bleii will attempt the ppa01:56
oerheksbuild it from source01:56
oerheksthat would be the safest way to add that old version .. in a vm would be safe01:57
oerhekssome collect anything, grinn01:57
bleippa no-go attempting compile01:59
bleii've built a lot of things with gcc but i've never built gcc02:08
bleiit generates, by far, the coolest looking compiler warnings i've seen02:10
bleibuilding gcc 11 with gcc 6 a no-go ./md-unwind-support.h:65:47: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type ‘struct ucontext’ sc = (struct sigcontext *) (void *) &uc_->uc_mcontext;02:12
bleierr, building gcc 6 with gcc 11 x_x02:12
jhutchinsred_herring20: Putty will do verbose output, you need to launch it from a shell prompt/command line (whatever they call it in Windows).02:12
jhutchinsred_herring20: is the ssh daemon listening?  Can you connect to the localhost on the server?02:13
sanmingzhiHas anyone had any luck installing VoiceMod via Lutris or other any other means?02:20
oerheksif you find no answer here, there is #lutris here on #libera too.02:23
sanmingzhiawesome. thank you02:28
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red_herring20jhutchins: I can connect using localhost or the local ip from another machine02:55
red_herring20jhutchins: this is what I see if I try to connect over the internet https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/S6sK3PM822/03:06
sanmingzhiThe "Connection timed out" is usually from firewall at the network or OS level. Make sure you have port forwarding setup in your router too if you're connecting from outside to a lan without a vpn.03:12
red_herringjust to be sure - the port I forward on the router should be the same as the port I open on the server, yes?03:13
sanmingzhithats the easiest way03:14
red_herringif so, that is already done, ufw allow [port #], hosts.allow ALL: sshd, GatewayPorts yes03:14
red_herringI wonder if this is windows firewall actually03:14
sanmingzhiIf you have ssh running on a custom port make sure you've restarted the ssh service and its actually running on the custom port too03:16
sanmingzhialso check your default policy to see if its allow/deny. You may need to specifically allow traffic to the port03:17
red_herringsystemctl status ssh shows the correct port, I am able to connect on the local network as well03:18
red_herringI'm thinking it's something on windows or my router03:19
sanmingzhiprobably router / port forwarding level since you can connect locally03:19
red_herringthank you for your suggestions, much appreciated03:19
sanmingzhisure thing03:19
ednashwhat is a good filesystem for large (2TB+) backup disks, if i want inter-operability with windows? (don't care about mac)03:51
jhutchinsednash: Windows pretty much limits it to NTFS/CIFS unless you want to do third party FS drivers on Windows (not recommended).03:59
ednashthanks04:05
oerheks!exfat04:07
mybalzitchgood and windows is mutually exclusive WRT filesystems04:37
leftyfbjhutchins: CIFS isn't a filesystem04:47
hammrhello04:48
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leptoneCan anyone recommend a good guide for creating a persistent bootable Ubuntu USB from a Windows 10 machine?06:24
shamebotsuro rm -rf /* .... kidding!06:25
shamebotDon't try that at home. Actually if you try it, you just get a warning and can cancel. But, anyway ...06:25
shamebot*sudo06:25
oerheksmkusb https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/03/create-persistent-storage-live-usb-with.html06:27
oerhekson windows rufus?06:28
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ns12Hello, do package updates ever overwrite configuration files in /etc/ that I have modified?07:02
EriC^^ns12: that can happen, yes07:12
alkisghttps://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html#conffiles07:12
PhoebusWhat's a functional, feature rich document viewer (close to adobe bridge), supporting AI files and PDF, among others...07:13
ns12EriC^^: Is it possible for that to happen silently (i.e. without prompts or warnings)?07:14
EriC^^ns12: i've had apache2 rewrite /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/apache2.service a couple times silently07:15
shamebotAnyone know how to restart nautilus or fix crashes, other than doing something like ps aux | grep nautilus then killing it?07:34
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AchakHello everyone08:23
frost-coreHello!08:26
frost-corehow do i upgrade to jammy jellyfish builds?08:26
frost-corefrom impish indri08:26
AchakYou use `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` @frost-core08:27
frost-coreAchak : do i have to constantly update every new development build?08:29
AchakWhat do you mean? You only upgrade to the dev build once08:30
Achakand then you use it normally like every linux distro08:30
Achakyou just have to constanrly update your system08:30
frost-corei meant, do i have to run the command you gave me every single time? or just sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade08:31
AchakYou only do do-release-upgrade -d once to upgrade to jammy08:33
Achakand then after just update and upgrade08:33
Achakbut be careful08:33
Achakyou may break your system by upgradig08:33
strophee.09:14
frost-corehello11:31
frost-coreim currently upgrading to jammy11:31
frost-coreand i notice a sound issue11:31
lotuspsychje!next | frost-core11:31
ubottufrost-core: Jammy Jellyfish is the codename for Ubuntu 22.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality.11:31
frost-coreno sound plays11:31
oerheksUntil release, support and bugs in #ubuntu -next11:33
hookHi. Has there been a short window when (a broken) 20.04.4 got released?12:54
hookI triggered a normal update yesterday or today, and my system says I’m on 20.04.4, even though neither the wiki nor the website mention it as released yet. And I’m facing all sorts of issues now.12:55
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saint_hi all . Could someone recommend a VPN Server which allows me to setup PSK for clients? I was looking at StrongSwan.. Any feedback on that would be appreciated :)13:26
oerhekssaint_, not really an ubuntu support issue, choice of vpn and options13:30
zenofWhere is stdout written to in gnome when I run a script by custom key-binding ? For example when I bind 'F7' to: sh -c '[ -t 1 ] && notify-send "STDOUT" "" || notify-send "NO STDOUT" ""'  ... I get "STDOUT"13:31
saint_oerheks not looking for support. looking for ubuntu users who went through the same dilema.13:32
codebamhey I'm trying to install libgraphite2 but it says it's not found?13:48
codebamah -dev13:48
codebamthanks13:48
BluesKajHi folks13:52
codebamhello BluesKaj14:00
BluesKajhi codebam14:02
codebamhow are you today?14:03
BluesKajdoing ok, thanks codebam, how about you?14:04
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codebamdoing ok. sorry I've been in and out14:37
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frost-corehello guys14:54
frost-coremy lubuntu wont connect to wifi14:54
frost-coreSecrets were required but not provided14:54
frost-corewhen using nmcli14:54
frost-coreplease, help14:55
frost-coreive tried everything on the internet14:55
leftyfbfrost-core: http://lubuntuhowto.blogspot.com/2016/01/how-to-connect-to-wifi-network-on-lubuntu.html14:57
frost-coreumm14:58
frost-coregui is worse, it didnt work i think14:58
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hideroothello where15:06
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frost-corehideroot, can you solve my issue if you can?15:07
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frost-corei upgraded to jammy jellyfish, and i cant connect to wifi15:07
frost-coreSecrets were required but not provided15:07
leftyfb!next | frost-core15:07
ubottufrost-core: Jammy Jellyfish is the codename for Ubuntu 22.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality.15:07
leftyfbfrost-core: Ubuntu 22.04 is no released and not supported here15:08
frost-coreleftyfb : also, this happenes on another 21.04 machine15:09
hiderooti have old lumia 950 and i wont install ubuntu touch.. it is possible?15:09
frost-corei hosted a hotspot from archlinux15:09
leftyfbfrost-core: is any device able to successfully connect to your hotspot at this very moment? (please confirm)15:10
frost-coreleftyfb : no15:10
frost-corei couldnt15:10
yrdsb43hi how do i install four in a row on ubuntu15:10
leftyfbfrost-core: then your issue is with the hotspot on arch, not the clients trying to connect to the misconfigured hotspot15:11
frost-coreleftyfb : give me a command to make a hotspot, but the correct one15:11
oerhekshttps://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/15:11
lotuspsychjeyrdsb43: it might be included in gcompris package15:11
leftyfbyrdsb43: look through the software store for games to install15:11
yrdsb43no15:12
frost-corei did nmcli d wifi hotspot ssid hotspotnamehere password testpasswordhere15:12
yrdsb43i use the terminal to install15:12
yrdsb43way easier15:12
yrdsb43i just need to do sudo apt-get install *game name*15:12
leftyfbfrost-core: ask for support with Archlinux in their IRC channel15:12
hideroot<oerheks> tnx15:13
Mathisenyrdsb43, well if it is so easy why ask :)15:13
yrdsb43!op troller detected15:13
leftyfbMathisen: they left15:13
leftyfboh wait, they didn't15:13
yrdsb43!op ban yrdsb43 asap15:13
leftyfbyrdsb43: if you know the answer, then why are you asking?15:13
leftyfbah, troll, that's why15:13
oerheksi don't read lumina on that page , join #ubports for more info?15:13
yrdsb43what does !op even do15:15
lotuspsychjeyrdsb43: sudo apt install gcompris15:15
leftyfbyrdsb43: this is a support channel. Please stay on topic15:15
yrdsb43how do i install gnome software center on ubuntu15:19
yrdsb43i dont know the package name15:20
lotuspsychje!info gnome-software15:20
ubottugnome-software (40.4-1build1, impish): Software Center for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Built by gnome-software. Size 581 kB / 2,974 kB15:20
Maikyrdsb43: why would you? Ubuntu already has a software center15:20
oerheksi could understand the install of synaptic ..15:23
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BluesKajstill prefer the original Muon, not the discover version15:35
noob8650BluesKaj: I just wish there was more embracing of incremental improvement rather than "let's rewrite it"15:56
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BluesKajnoob8650, the emphasis seems to be ease of use on the gui with less regard for package reference info.16:02
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yrdsbhi16:26
yrdsbshould i use the latest lts relese 20.04 or older relese like 16.10 5.10 6.06 18.0416:26
ThinkT510I'd recommend a supported release16:27
leftyfbyrdsb: you should only use supported releases. That would be 18.04, 20.04 or 21.10 which is EOL in July16:27
PTNapivoskiI am waiting for Jammy16:34
leftyfbPTNapivoski: they left. They only stick around long enough to ask a stupid question and then leave. Probably because they aren't supposed to be chatting on IRC during class16:35
PTNapivoski:/16:36
swebis journald log contain all of other level logs of OS, like syslog, kernel log, auth?17:01
marc__anyone know why wine keeps complaining about wine-mono17:03
jhutchinssweb: the systemd journal is pretty all-inclusive.  AFIK it doesn't break different services out to different logs.17:03
Minverahow does iptables rules get loaded if i have nothing relating to "iptables" in my /etc/ ?17:03
swebjhutchins: thanks, so if i collect journald logs and send to centric logs in ubuntu, i already have all logs of system, no log will be lost.17:04
DMZfreeZoneWhat?17:05
DMZfreeZoneK ... and I should have said this sooner. Clonezilla anyone?17:05
DMZfreeZoneIf you need to preserve and study ... you have the spare drive. Clone first so you can recover later and study if needed.17:05
leftyfbmarc__: try #winehq17:10
marc__I did17:10
marc__its like the graveyard shift in there17:10
pksatoHello, Someone can point me a direction: I have a issue with php-fpm(5.6/7.4) and mail() function. It not work, no error, no clue, php-cli works. packages from ondrej/php. tnx.17:12
PTNapivoskipksato, https://github.com/PHPMailer/PHPMailer17:12
leftyfbpksato: try #ubuntu-server, but also, you should be running an supported release of ubuntu, not shoe-horning modern versions of php onto a public web server17:13
yrdsbshouuld i use latest lts relese 20.04 or old relese like 10.10 16.10 16.04 etc17:31
leftyfbyrdsb: please stop17:31
yrdsbshould i use 16.04 18.04 or 20.04 i am using 20.04 right now17:32
Maikyrdsb: mind stop trolling please? You know that EOL releases are not supported anymore17:32
leftyfbyrdsb: 16.04 i no longer supported. Use 20.04 and stop asking stupid questions17:32
yrdsbbut 20.04 have yaru17:33
yrdsband i hate yaru17:33
Maikyrdsb: then use another flavor in which you can change themes17:33
yrdsblibera.chat sucks17:34
yrdsbit bans people for no reason17:34
Maikyrdsb: stop it17:34
yrdsbit network bans people for no reason17:34
leftyfbyrdsb: I'm happy to spend the time tracking down the school you attend in Richmond Hill and reporting your antics17:34
Maik!ops yrdsb17:34
yrdsbwhat antics mean17:34
Maik!ops | yrdsb17:34
ubottuyrdsb: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK DJones el Flannel genii hggdh ikonia krytarik mneptok mwsb nhandler Pici popey sarnold tomreyn Unit193 wgrant17:34
geniihm17:50
yrdsbhi17:50
leftyfbyrdsb: don't17:50
yrdsbhow do i install gimp on ubuntu17:51
yrdsbis it a simple sudo command17:51
leftyfbyrdsb: just like every other package17:51
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andrew2can i play dos games without an emulator on 64 bit linux18:13
Ravageno18:14
andrew2but why18:14
andrew2!info kubuntu18:14
ubottuPackage kubuntu does not exist in impish18:14
andrew2!info dosbox18:14
ubottudosbox (0.74-3-3, impish): x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Built by dosbox. Size 861 kB / 2,707 kB18:14
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andrew2why cant i run dos games without emulator on 64 bit oses18:15
coconutandrew2, because only an emulator can make a game from another platform compatible18:16
Ravageandrew2: you just missed yrdsb. sorry. he was an expert on that topic. maybe wait for him to return18:16
ChunkyzRavage, same person. check the hostname/IP.18:17
Ravage.....18:17
Ravageno s*it18:17
* Chunkyz shrugs18:17
andrew2when will 64 bit os18:23
andrew2support dos games without emulator18:23
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yrdsbhi18:27
luna_hi18:27
yrdsbwhen will dos games work without emulator18:27
yrdsbon 64 bit oses18:27
yrdsb#weechat18:27
lotuspsychjeyou can stop trolling now yrdsb18:28
andrew2hi18:28
luna_hi18:28
andrew2!ops yrdsb is trolling18:29
ice9sometimes bluetooth mouse gets disconnected while using it then after few seconds it connect again and work normaly; why is this happening and how to keep it connecting all time?18:29
yrdsbtell me18:29
yrdsbwhen wil dos game work on 64 bit oses18:29
elandrew2: do you think we can't see accountnames?18:30
andrew2!ops|yrdsb is trolling18:30
yrdsbno18:30
andrew2318:30
elok fine then18:30
Maikthanks el18:31
maksHiho, is this help channel for ubuntu newcommers? I don't why my 20.04 ubuntu ask my for sudo password each time i log in and each ~30 min18:35
Ravagemaks: https://itsfoss.com/change-sudo-password-timeout-ubuntu/18:36
maksThat's not what i asked. I mean some startup programs need privilages but i cannot turn off them. That's not happned for my in other distributions18:40
leftyfbmaks: which "startup program" needs privileges and you can't turn off?18:43
maksleftyfb: I have no idea, this is almost fresh installed ubuntu 20.04, one is update checker i guess18:45
leftyfbmaks: "update checker"?  Do you mean the popup that tells you have packages that can be updated and when you click ok it's asking you for an administrative password because you obviously need those in order to install packages?18:46
maksi disabled all 3 in "starting programs" graphical selecter and also from some autostar folder in .conf18:47
maksi mean i turn on computer and it ask me for a password after system starttup18:47
leftyfbmaks: ok, sounds like you know what you're doing and will modify things to do what you think you need done and you no longer need help here. Good luck18:47
makstwice18:47
maksi just want to start computer without any sudo priviligaes for startup, like i was running no-root account18:48
leftyfbmaks: I have installed Ubuntu more times than there are people in this chat. 20.04 at least a few hundred times. Never has anything popped up and asked me for a password immediately after booting to my desktop18:49
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alkisgmaks, just upload a screenshot so that we can see which program you're talking about...18:52
rm_rfHardstop on mindless redirects to other Ubuntu channels.18:53
leftyfbrm_rf: can we help you with something?18:53
leftyfbalkisg: they should probably undo whatever hacks they did to "starting programs" so as not to cause more issues18:53
alkisgE.g. when teachers reported something like that, I saw that they meant the keyring unlocking popup18:54
rm_rfWait, what county is someone in where teachers or students interface with Linux?18:54
leftyfbalkisg: I know exactly what that is and that happens when someone breaks something like changing the user password using the CLI or something18:55
leftyfb!ot | rm_rf18:55
ubotturm_rf: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:55
rm_rfIn the U.S., Linux is only used for Raspberry Pi stuff, servers, IT departments etc18:55
leftyfbrm_rf: please stop18:55
rm_rfThere that is18:55
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spambotTell him, not me18:55
leftyfbyeah, that helps your cause18:55
spambotI see.18:56
spambotI'll b leaving. Tootaloo18:56
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SpamBotSorry18:58
SpamBotJust ignore the nick changes. I'm working on something18:58
krytarikCould just leave the channel in the meantime though.18:59
leftyfbSpamBot: if you are going to be constantly changing nicks, please /part. Come back when you have settled on one you have registered18:59
krytarikleftyfb: I feel like you've been a bit too strict there btw.18:59
SpamBotYeah, there's that ... but I won't do that unless there's threat of banishment because I'm tired of having to constantly modify my saved configs. I'm using Weechat which is sort of like VIM18:59
SpamBotI'm not in a GUI19:00
SpamBotK, I will part if it's that intense about this19:00
SpamBotfine19:00
SpamBothold on19:00
botspamK, that might do the trick for now19:01
botspamI registered the nick to my group19:01
botspamNow I've marked myself as an essential worker as I spam bots and not humans.19:02
botspamI attack the bots that spam us19:02
leftyfbbotspam: please stop19:02
botspamAm I going to get scolded if I stop but answer questions for people who need help?19:03
leftyfbbotspam: if you want to chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic. This is an Ubuntu support channel19:03
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botspamI seriously don't get this. These are supposed to be informal community chats, right?19:04
leftyfbbotspam: support19:04
botspamI will do this, sure. But this almost feels like you're using Jira or ServiceNow.19:04
leftyfbbotspam: go to #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat19:04
botspamK, shit19:04
Maik!ops | botspam keeps trolling19:05
ubottubotspam keeps trolling: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK DJones el Flannel genii hggdh ikonia krytarik mneptok mwsb nhandler Pici popey sarnold tomreyn Unit193 wgrant19:05
krytarikMaik: Please..19:05
Maikthen deal with it earlier krytarik19:05
krytarikYou don't have to be all that snappy either though.19:06
leftyfbkrytarik: there's been a lot of trolling going on lately and we're not seeing a lot of response from the ops19:07
Maikexactly... but i'll leave it at that. It's support here after all19:08
krytarikleftyfb: I mean in that case I don't feel like a curious question about something another has mentioned is all that far off topic in itself yet - which here it pertained to the use of Linux on the desktop in the public sector.19:11
leftyfbkrytarik: ah, see that's where we differ. I like to address trolls by their constant trolling and antics and not pick apart 1 particular instance and consider them a saint19:13
krytarikWell, you labeling people trolls and then only treat them by that label rather than by what they do, might be part of the issue here.19:15
krytarikAnyway, now *we* are starting to be off topic here.. >_>19:15
leftyfbkrytarik: if you spend more time here, you get to know who the trolls are by what they do, not labels19:15
Maiklet's take it over to #ubuntu-discuss or... #ubuntu-irc better19:16
gnaskOk, i screwed up big time , i need your help oh mighty Ubuntu gods. I am using Ubuntu 21.10 , well. I WAS using it.. i thought it would be fun to add some Kali wifisniff tool with katoolin to try it out. Seems that i added a but to much.. i did a apt upgrade and now my system tries to boot in to Kali instead of Ubuntu... am I screwed? I managed to19:17
gnaskget in to a terminal after "oh no something has gone wrong" ... please save me..19:18
leftyfbgnask: reinstall ubuntu from scratch19:18
leftyfbthere is no coming back from that19:18
gnaskCrap. I had everything set up so neat :( silly me19:18
jhutchinsgnask: You might want to look into backups, but mixing distributions is almos always a recipe for disaster.19:20
gnaskLearned a lesson19:20
leftyfbgnask: I'm a big fan of using ansible to create a playbook that rebuilds my machine from scratch19:21
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frost-coreDoes anybody know if there is a flavour of ubuntu with the extended, 2025 date?19:42
frost-core(focal fossa based of course)19:42
leftyfbfrost-core: extended date?19:43
frost-coreleftyfb : as i said, 202519:43
sarnoldcan you use different words? :)19:44
frost-corealso for bionic beaver19:44
leftyfbfrost-core: date for what?19:44
frost-coresarnold : lts19:44
frost-coreleftyfb : lts, focal fossa19:44
leftyfbfrost-core: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases19:44
frost-coreleftyfb : ubuntu flavour19:44
leftyfb^ that is a list of all the most recent released and their EOL date19:44
frost-coreleftyfb : for 18.04, which flavour does not have the short eol19:45
frost-coreleftyfb: ive seen flavours, that shorten the eol19:46
leftyfbfrost-core: you would maybe have to ask in each of the channels or google it. For instance, Kubuntu 20.04 looks like it's supported until 2023 from looking on google19:47
frost-coreleftyfb : yeah, lubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu mate and budgie too19:48
guivercfrost-core, flavors haven't shortened lives; ubuntu desktop/server extended life & flavors did not19:48
leftyfbguiverc: you mean "have"19:48
frost-coreguiverc : also, is it recommended running bionic beaver?19:48
frost-coreand, if i install bionic beaver server, THEN install kubuntu desktop for example, do i still keep my support?19:49
leftyfbfrost-core: it's always recommended to upgrade when possible. I don't see why you would install a release from 4 years ago from scratch19:49
leftyfbfrost-core: why would you install bionic?19:49
frost-coreleftyfb : its kinda performant i think, also older means faster19:50
leftyfbfrost-core: negative19:50
guivercfrost-core, only packages found in 'main' have 5 years; kubuntu-desktop comes from 'universe' which is EOL; you can verify using `ubuntu-support-status` on 18.04 (`ubuntu-security-status` on later releases)19:50
leftyfbfrost-core: To say Ubuntu 18.04 is more "performant" than Ubuntu 20.04 is demonstratively false19:51
guivercEOL maybe wrong term there ^; unsupported by Kubuntu team is more accurate; if a community member wants to upgrade/fix security issues it's still possible for 18.04; but teams have ended life of it19:51
leftyfbfrost-core: also, there's little difference and no benefit installing ubuntu server and then a DE over just installing the desktop release19:52
frost-corethere are benifits, no preinstalled apps19:52
leftyfbfrost-core: depends on how you installed the DE19:53
leftyfbfrost-core: it's probably a cleaner experience if you just install the desktop release and remove apps you don't think you need19:55
leftyfbfrost-core: otherwise you might have to spend more time configuring and integrating things that would work out of the box with the whole DE installed properly19:55
FixItDo VPNs work on Ubuntu?20:00
leftyfbFixIt: yes, I'm on one right now20:01
FixItI see20:01
FixItHopefully there aren't any trolls on here.20:02
krytarikFixIt: LOL XD20:05
FixItYeah ...20:06
FixItIf it ain't broken, fix it. If it's fixed, fix it.20:06
krytarikI mean you've chosen to go by the nick "FixIt" to get Ubuntu support.. >_>20:06
FixItWhat are you thinking about this?20:07
FixItI think you're onto something hot.20:07
krytarikNow let's leave it at that please..20:07
FixItWhere are all the tickets?20:08
krytarikAt bugs.launchpad.net20:09
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FixItK ... So how do I fix UTC issues with Ubuntu on a dual boot which causes conflicts between Win and Linux?20:11
FixItSystem times conflict since one OS uses local and the other UTC. How do I sync them, what values etc?20:11
FixItAlso, is this room somehow linked to Canonical?20:12
leftyfbFixIt: install ntp on ubuntu to keep it at the proper time20:13
krytarik!time | FixIt: See the first link here20:13
ubottuFixIt: See the first link here: Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)20:13
FixIthttps://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-time-synchronization-on-ubuntu-20-0420:13
ograFixIt, timedatectl set-local-rtc 1 --adjust-system-clock20:14
ograif you can not use NTP either set windows to use UTC or use the above command to tell linux to use RTC in local timezon20:15
ograe20:15
FixItHave do disable timesyncd and enable ntpd20:15
FixItThat's the answer20:15
ograthats not an answer20:15
ograbut great that you found something that suits you ...20:16
FixItCould of fooled me since it fixed my dual boot time conflict problems about three hours ago after several reboots and attempts.20:16
ograso why did you ask about it if you fixed it already ?20:16
ogratypically people here ask questions to get help ... for general chat about ubuntu hacks/fixes/solutions better go to #ubuntu-discuss ...20:17
FixItI see20:17
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timedatectlSeems to be an issue with that channel, BTW20:20
timedatectlGotta talk to one of the mods20:20
sarnoldtimedatectl: cmon, surely you've got something better to do20:21
timedatectlMeaning. Assuming you're one of said mods, the question seems more appropriate for yourself or demonstrate the issues your'e referring to?20:22
timedatectl*meaning?20:22
sarnoldtimedatectl: meaning that Maik and leftyfb being obnoxious to people who step slightly out of bounds is well known and discussed, and usually whoever they badger just leave ..20:23
timedatectlI DMd you20:23
timedatectlYou can explain this to me discreetly since you guys are all about brass tacks and courtesy20:23
timedatectlI have to see this20:23
Guest39Hi Guys... I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a second drive for dual booting. But it shows a button "Install Now" after encryption options, without asking me to select where to install it. What gives?20:38
famotidineK, so first make sure you're on the right drive. Try lsblk20:38
Guest39I am afraid to "Install Now" since it doesn't show where it plans to install it. I don't want to overwrite my other drives.20:39
famotidineIdentify the drives first by either lsblk or fdisk -l20:39
leftyfbGuest39: personally, I disconnect the other drive during the install just to be safe20:39
sarnoldheh I'm a big fan of the 'disconnect other drives' approach :)20:39
famotidineAlways the smartest thing. I always get paranoid myself and right now I've got three drives with three different OSes20:41
Guest39ok ima try that20:44
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jhutchinsGuest2310: I believe that during the course of the normal install it does show you what partitioning it's going to use, and it installs to /22:35
jhutchinsIt identifies the drive.22:35
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