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goddardwhat is the cache memory amount in system monitor?00:36
sarnoldgoddard: memory used to store the contents of files from disk in memory -- eg executing programs, data that was recently used or the system predicts might be used soon, etc00:42
goddardsarnold: is that a gnome specific indexing or my IDE?00:42
goddard16 Gigs just isn't enough00:43
sarnoldgoddard: it's a basic kernel feature, it predates gnome by a lot00:45
goddardi see i wonder if 6.6 gigs is a good amount or if something is going wrong here00:45
sarnold6.6 gigs is great00:46
sarnoldif you were under a lot of memory pressure that number would be a lot lower00:46
sarnoldyou've reminded me of this classic old website :) https://www.linuxatemyram.com/00:46
goddardmy system does run out of memory though and even fills my small amount of swap(only 2gigs)00:47
goddardcauses my system to lock up and it is a pretty new laptop with higher end components00:47
sarnoldah, then maybe it is time for more memory00:49
goddardhttps://i.postimg.cc/yxJxS3d1/Screenshot-from-2022-02-23-19-49-09.png00:49
goddardjava IDEs are such a memory hog00:50
sarnoldyup00:51
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ghostHow can I updatento the latest version of gnome on Ubuntu 21:1002:23
oerhekslatest stable is 40, you have it already02:27
oerheks42 is in alpha stage02:27
ghostI'd like to update to gnome 41.3 that's the lastest stable version02:27
oerhekswait for next Jammy, or try the beta ?02:29
oerheks!next02:30
ubottuJammy Jellyfish is the codename for Ubuntu 22.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality.02:30
ghost Ok thanks, I thought there would be a way to update to the latest version without a fresh install02:31
SymbioticFemalehey my ubuntu using UEFI is skipping the boot menu02:32
SymbioticFemalei want to choose from the grub options02:32
sarnoldusually you need to hold down left shift when booting to get the menu02:32
SymbioticFemaleoh02:32
SymbioticFemaledidn't help02:34
SymbioticFemalewhat should i fix in /etc/default/grub to fix this?02:34
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ghostYou can edit the grub timeout in /etc/default/grub02:35
ghostUse a text editor and change the timeout to 502:36
SymbioticFemaleyeah i already set it to 20 . i resolved it though02:36
toddcghost: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1264119/how-to-change-grub-timeout-in-ubuntu-20-0402:36
SymbioticFemalethere was a line that said "hidden"02:36
SymbioticFemalecommented that line and now it werks02:36
ghostAwesome glad you fixed it02:37
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prawatHi All, I am trying to incorporate deb files into ISO from local build.. could anyone please suggest me how to incorprate these deb file into iso?05:16
prawatIs it possible to create local file based repo from build and pull the packages in ISO ... defining local source.list05:18
alkisgprawat: if you want to use it as a repository later on, one way is to use reprepro. If you just want the .debs to be available, you can just put them in a folder and bind-mounts it over /var/cache/apt/archives05:56
prawatalkisg:  I want create the repo then use it while constructing ISO ... Is it possible to fetch those packages from same build process ?05:59
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alkisgIf you just copy or bind-mount deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives, they're available to apt and can be installed05:59
prawatalkisg: I have posted the question as well, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1394491/how-to-add-private-deb-packages-into-custom-iso-with-their-dependencies05:59
prawatIs it possible to override the /var/cache/apt/archives location to some other location, I mean within the build directory06:01
alkisgI've read the question but I still didn't understand what you're asking for. I think you're confusing the "I have a private repo" with the "I want to create a repo in a generated DVD"06:02
alkisgI think you don't care if you have a private repo or not, right? You just want the packages to go to the DVD repo, so that they're available when that DVD is used as an install media?06:03
prawatalkisg: No confusion here, the private repo option eliminated because of the apt update requred to fetch the latest packages06:04
alkisgWell when you pointed me to that question it was still there :)06:04
alkisgAnyway I don't understand what part you don't know how to do06:05
prawatI want to create a repo with private deb files  in a generated DVD and the repo should also contains the dependencies packages.06:07
alkisgThe dependencies for what?06:07
alkisgAnd starting from where?06:08
alkisgE.g. if you're expecting the user to start from `debootstrap` and then use the repo, the dependencies are more than if you're expecting them to start using a desktop installation06:08
prawatDependency packages for my private packages.. those I can pull it from the ubuntu repo06:08
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ghostHello I have a unique issue. I forget my bios password and clearing the CMOS jumper or removing the battery has dose not work. I need a fresh install.... Can I boot a live usb from the grub menu07:02
lotuspsychjeyes ghost there's an iso2grub method07:03
lotuspsychjeghost: check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot07:04
ghostThank you !07:04
lotuspsychjeghost: do you have your cd/dvd as primary boot order?07:05
odracir1970hello08:47
lotuspsychjewelcome odracir197008:48
odracir1970i have a questiom, i have install zorin os 16, but my aghenda is in german en the rest is in english?08:49
odracir1970thnx lotuspsychje08:49
lotuspsychjeodracir1970: Zorin Os is not supported here, we only do ubuntu and their !flavours08:50
odracir1970i see08:50
lotuspsychjeodracir1970: what you can consider is installing ubuntu and come seek help in this community08:50
odracir1970i try many os this 3 months , but i had problems with my nvidia geforce rtx 37008:52
odracir1970this os had solved my problem08:52
odracir1970lotuspsychje, what kind of os do you have ?08:54
lotuspsychjeodracir1970: im using ubuntu desktop 20.04 and 22.04 on my computers08:54
lotuspsychjeodracir1970: the currently supported ubuntu releases you can see in our topic /topic08:55
odracir1970thnx08:55
odracir1970nice that i can ask some questions here if i have trouble08:56
odracir1970do you support also fedora ?08:56
lotuspsychjeodracir1970: no, only ubuntu releases and their !flavours08:57
lotuspsychje!flavours08:57
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours08:57
odracir1970haha, i pick the 2 wrong os i see08:57
odracir1970i have treid ubuntu 20.0408:59
odracir1970but my rtx did not work propperly09:00
lotuspsychjeodracir1970: you could try again, then come back here and seek help09:00
lotuspsychjeodracir1970: usualy big RTX cards would need latest nvidia drivers, its solveable09:00
odracir1970thats a option i wil think a bouth09:01
odracir1970in ubuntu 20.04 was a pakage 470 i think09:01
odracir1970when i ussed it, i had delay on my main screen09:02
odracir1970and if pickt de older version i cant get de 5 k resolution09:03
odracir1970no i have only a prolem that my agenda is in german09:04
odracir1970i want to buy a min linux pc , i vcan run then 20.0409:05
odracir1970if i have quetstions i can come here09:06
DynamiteDanI have a ubuntu server installed that was previously running with a AMD card. I had to replace it with an nvidia and the system locks at boot time. How can I reconfigure to make it work? Thanks in advance09:18
EriC^^DynamiteDan: does it mention any errors before locking?09:34
DynamiteDannot that I figure them out09:35
DynamiteDanI can't access the boot menu09:35
DynamiteDanit is a legacy setup09:35
EriC^^DynamiteDan: also did you try from grub > advanced > recovery kernel, then choose boot in low graphics mode?09:35
EriC^^holding shift should give you grub09:36
DynamiteDanI can't see the menu09:36
DynamiteDanlet me try09:36
DynamiteDanok. the system booted in recovery mode09:40
DynamiteDanI have choose normal mode09:40
DynamiteDanand it is startijg with image09:40
DynamiteDanhow can I force safe mode?09:41
EriC^^i think that's the low graphics mode by default09:42
DynamiteDanthis is a server though09:42
EriC^^well, it will use 'nomodeset' i think, it might help09:42
DynamiteDanI place that in the kernel paramenters right?09:43
EriC^^try pressing esc to get boot log while it boots09:43
EriC^^DynamiteDan: yeah it should already be there since you used the recovery mode09:43
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DynamiteDannow I wan't to force safemode in all normal boots09:45
EriC^^DynamiteDan: ok edit /etc/default/grub09:46
EriC^^next to quiet splash put nomodeset, then save and run 'sudo update-grub'09:46
DynamiteDanis it on /etc/default/grub ?09:48
EriC^^yes09:50
EriC^^should be this line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"09:50
DynamiteDanokay. it is running now :)09:50
DynamiteDanthanks for your help09:50
EriC^^great, no problem09:51
mortIs there a way to get Ubuntu to remember what audio device I prefer to use? It seems to choose an arbitrary audio output device when I boot and it's annoying10:12
KBarmort open pavucontrol set your preferred device as fallback10:14
mortwell they left, but: ubuntu forgets that on reboot10:14
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ueberall Bummer. Apparently, the latest #Ubuntu "linux-oem-20.04[abc]" kernel packages for #Focal now all point to version 5.14.0.1024.22—Is this intentional even though kernel 5.14 reached EOL upstream while kernel 5.10 did not?11:10
alkisgDoesn't Canonical maintain its kernels on its own? Why would "upstream EOL" matter then?11:20
Ravagei dont think its a good i idea trying to keep an EOL kernel alive by the kernel team11:23
Ravagethats a really big task11:23
tomreynueberall: i don't see why it would not be intentional. canonical has previously maintained kernel versions when they are no longer supported upstream, and as far as i know there's no reason to assume they can't now. unrelated to that, generally speaking, i would recommend using generic kernel if you don't have any dependency on oem kernels (mostly because there will be less patches applied to these kernels).11:24
techer#java11:33
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BluesKajHi folks13:58
hyberaxetest14:35
jchittumueberall: Canonical does support kernels outside the upstream LTS on a regular basis. And Canonical will support them fully for as long as they are listed as being supported (so possibly through ESM)15:25
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betuxyHey guys, I was wondereing about precedence in apache configurtation. which directive will be used if to contradict each other? lets say i "Include conf.d/*.conf" at the first line of httpd.conf. Would the rest of the settings in that file only count if not set otherwise in conf.d?17:10
geniibetuxy: It's first match wins. So if you pull in another file right at the beginning those get processed first17:14
betuxyokay thanks :)17:14
geniiAs soon as it hits a match it stops looking for futher rules to process17:15
betuxyI have another question, how do I prevent apache to just take the first vhost instead of showing a 40x when a site is not accesible?17:18
betuxydo I need to configure an extra vhost just to serve a deny?17:18
ograbetuxy, you probably have more luck to get qualified answers in #ubuntu-server17:23
betuxyogra: thanks17:23
jhutchinsbetuxy: Yeah, or direct the default host to a 404.18:07
jhutchinsIt seems to me that there might be a "default" directive, but I'm not sure about that.18:07
jhutchinsThen again, maybe the default host should be an ad for your services.18:08
mybalzitchanyone have a suggestion on a cute, simple gui widget/whatever to watch cpu/gpu temps?18:46
mybalzitchcute is optional18:47
jhutchinsmybalzitch: What desktop are you using?  THe Ubuntu default is gnome.18:50
mybalzitchkde19:03
leftyfbmybalzitch: maybe ask in #kubuntu about KDE widgets19:04
andrew2hi19:13
andrew2is debian supported here19:15
andrew2i moved from ubuntu to debian19:15
andrew2is debian supported here19:15
andrew2or only ubuntu19:15
leftyfbandrew2: only Ubuntu19:16
leftyfbandrew2: type: /part  and then type: /join #debian19:17
andrew2i use sudo apt install on debian19:17
andrew2and i use ubuntu before and ubuntu also have that command19:17
leftyfbandrew2: good luck with Debian. Please ask for support with Debian in #debian19:17
andrew2i do sudo apt-get install gimp on debian and it installs like ubuntu19:20
andrew2!debian19:20
ubottuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian - !Repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!19:20
leftyfbandrew2: Please join #debian for support with Debian19:20
andrew2but my ip is banned their19:20
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leftyfbandrew2: sorry to hear that. We cannot help you with Debian here19:21
andrew2i made my debian look like ubuntu19:21
andrew2how do i put ubuntu repos on apt19:21
andrew2i used the distro based around ubuntu19:22
leftyfbandrew2: that is not supported here nor by Debian. It is not suggested to do and there would be little benefit and lots of broken packages from doing so19:23
andrew2but i want to install19:23
andrew2ubuntu packages on my debian19:23
leftyfbandrew2: if you would like to continue to receive support here, install Ubuntu19:24
andrew2i switched from ubuntu from debian a few hours ago19:24
andrew2i mean i switched from ubuntu back to debian19:24
leftyfbandrew2: good luck with Debian. Please seek support from Debian. Otherwise, if you would like to continue to receive support here, install Ubuntu.19:25
andrew2can i connect to  vpn19:25
andrew2to connect to the debian channel19:25
leftyfbkrytarik: sarnold: ogra: care to chime in here?19:25
andrew2will you allow me to connect to vpn19:26
andrew2for me to join #debian19:26
leftyfbandrew2: we have nothing to do with #debian. Please stay on topic here. This channel is for Ubuntu support. Not Debian19:26
quackgyverMy Ubuntu server only allows for authentication via keys, and I'm trying to figure out how to set up SSH access via keys using PuTTY. Assuming that I'm logged into my server via terminal, how would I go about making sure that my Windows PC can access it via Putty?19:33
leftyfbquackgyver: you need to convert your RSA private key to putty format19:34
quackgyverI don't know that I have a private key. I set it up once and then forgot about it, so I'm starting from scratch.19:34
quackgyverI don't know where to begin really.19:34
quackgyverI followed a recommended tutorial by my host when setting this up, so I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to key authentication.19:35
quackgyverAnd I can't find the tutorial again, so I can't revisit the process.19:36
leftyfbquackgyver: https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-set-up-ssh-keys-on-ubuntu-20-04/ Use this to create an ssh key pair. Test it from another linux machine to ssh to your ubuntu machine. Or use your ubuntu machine to test ssh'ing to itself19:36
leftyfbquackgyver: then use https://blog.ronin.cloud/connect-to-linux-putty/ to convert the private to putty format19:36
jhutchinsquackgyver: Ordinarily, you would generate a public key (and a private) with your putty client, then transfer the key to the server.  If you can't connect with a password, I don't know how you would establish a key pair.  You would probably need to contact your provider for instructions.19:38
quackgyverjhutchins: I already have authentication set up on my *nix PC. But it was a long time ago, and I don't know what I did.19:39
quackgyverleftyfb: I'm following your link, but I immediately get stuck at "If the command returns something like No such file or directory, or no matches found, it means that the user does not have SSH keys" because this is the message I'm getting, but I know that I do have keys set up since I can auth from my other PC.19:40
jhutchinsquackgyver: The solution would be to take the public key generated by putty - using the "paste" option to transform it to standard SSH format if necessary - and copy it to the *nix system, then use that system to copy the key to the .ssh/authorized_keys file.  Make sure to append the key to the file, don't overwrite it.  You may want to make a copy of the file before altering it.19:49
jhutchinsquackgyver: Each system connecting to the server must have a private key that matches a public key in the authorized_hosts file.19:50
wasuttonI'm scratching my head here. I've got an encrypted installation on my laptop. It seems to not want to boot (can't find the lvm root device), but the non-encrypted bootloader works fine. Everything I'm reading says i need to update my initramfs (fair)19:58
wasuttonbut the only way to do that is to chroot in.19:58
wasuttoni've booted a livecd, but it doesn't see the nvme pcie drive.19:58
wasuttonat all.19:58
quackgyverjhutchins: Alright, I'll give it a try. Thanks. :-)19:59
jhutchinsquackgyver: My putty experience is a bit old, sorry if I'm light on details.20:07
quackgyverNo worries. It's a good starting point. Appreciate it. :-)20:11
Mathisenwasutton, try a diffrent livecd, and if it only complains that it cant find the root device if it is as easy to change the partition number you can just edit the grub entry assuming you use grub and boot that way20:16
quackgyverjhutchins: Worked like a charm, and helped me understand keys better. Didn't know it was as easy as adding it to the authed keys on the server side.20:20
quackgyverThank you. :-)20:20
dauixHola20:34
arshiahi20:34
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arshia.20:35
dauixSomeone can help me to read files from hfsplus file sytem that I just mount for read only but it is asking for a password when i tried to read some directories?20:36
jhutchinsquackgyver: Key infrastructure used to be a big mystery to me too, until I figured out that it's actually pretty simple..20:36
quackgyverAye. :-)21:13
murthyI am not able to find debug symbols for libglib2.0-0 from the official repository for 20.0421:15
murthyusing KDE Neon User editon ISO21:16
sarnoldmurthy: they're on the ddebs.ubuntu.com repo http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/ -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages21:16
murthythere is only libglib-testing-0-0-dbgsym package21:16
murthychecking21:17
sershey sarnold21:17
sersremember our talk the other night?21:17
sersguess the answer is so far inconclusive. ;>21:18
serserr, anyway21:18
sarnoldsers: no, sorry21:18
sersOK.21:18
sers:>21:18
sersguess the brain/memory isn't what it used to be. ;>21:19
sarnoldprobably not, and my irssi instance restarted recently, so no /lastlog to help me out21:19
sersI was talking about multiple partitions created on a dual-boot disk consisting of win10 and ubuntu and why there were partitions created by the ubuntu installer upon re-installing only the unbuntu OS.21:20
sersI had interesting experiences with GRUB and re-installs so far... ;P21:21
sersWell, what do you mean by restarted recently? Did it crash?21:21
sarnoldsers: oh yeah that does sound familiar now :) bummer you haven't gotten to the bottom of it :(21:22
sarnoldsers: yeah, it's a *tiny* vm, and probably fell over when a snapd update was installed21:22
sersI was happy on znc with its scrollback, also on psybnc, but I mostly never had any issues with, let's say, screen+irssi detached running somewhere, regarding the scrollback...21:22
serssnapd* purge ;P21:22
serskidding, I was just thinking about giving `sudo snap set system experimental.parallel-instances=true' a try...21:23
sarnoldyeah, irssi in tmux has mostly worked great, but aws lightsail prevents just adding more memory to the machine -- you've got to build a brand new machine instead, so ... but I wanted livepatch, and livepatch comes via snap, so now i've got snap, too. poor little vm21:24
sersand install multiple instances of firefox, as in edge, beta, stable, parallel...21:24
sersgoodness, aws shell stuff...21:24
sersI read about it a few months ago, and even considered it...21:24
sersbut then...21:24
sersnothing happened21:24
sers:>21:24
serslivepatch, hm...21:25
sersdo you work on a heavy workload machine or something?21:25
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sersin my opinion, snap is the wrong path.21:26
sersmigrate everything back to apt/dpkg and call it a day. ;P21:26
sarnoldsers: yeah I've been meaning to switch away from aws for a long time, but .. never get around to it21:26
sersand terminate aptitude on the way ;P21:26
sarnoldsers: livepatch is nice to get kernel security fixes without restarting irssi and losing scrollback :)21:26
serswell, I used to idle maintained shells by guys who knew what they were doing, even had a spoof every now and then, irdc-wise...21:27
sersso aws, is like, a nice distraction perhaps, maintained by some **** who don't care much for the user's everyday issues...21:27
serserr, *21:27
twovithere is linode, they have support and nice how to articles21:28
sersI used to idle FreeBSD shells too. ;P21:28
sersWell, let's say, I idled FreeBSD shells on FreeBSD.21:28
sersWithout the need for X.21:28
sers:p21:28
serssarnold: Are you into kernel mechanics?21:29
sersDo you build anything?21:29
sersOr contribute to kernel?21:29
sarnoldsers: I feel comfortable reading most of the kernel sources, but don't contribute to it in any real way21:29
serssarnold: OK.21:30
serssarnold: Well, neither am I. ;P21:30
murthysarnold: that helped, thanks!21:31
sersWell, anyway, time's almost up for me. ;P21:33
serssarnold: It was good talking.21:33
serstake care21:33
serslater21:33
sarnolddang, look away for a few minutes..21:34
sarnoldmurthy: woot :)21:35
morganuI am stuck with all my chrome windows full height and I cant grab the bottom. (and alt-drag (the page above the top of the screen) no longer works.  20.0422:05
morganuIs there some auto way to make all the chrome windows fit over the entire screen which would shorten the height of the windows??22:06
morganuwhoo I have fixed it by making all windows minimized and then messing around. DONE22:08
matsamangj22:10
morganuMake a new short window and then move each tab to that new window. Obviously this is a crude, horrible solution but it works. Ewww. Not cool.22:10
morganuhi matsaman - you do what you must22:10
matsamanf'totes22:13
jhutchins!info chrome22:13
ubottuPackage chrome does not exist in impish22:13
jhutchins!info chromium22:16
ubottuPackage chromium does not exist in impish22:17
Jeremy31-browser22:17
geniiyep22:17
genii!info chromium-browser22:17
ubottuchromium-browser (1:85.0.4183.83-0ubuntu2, impish): Transitional package - chromium-browser -> chromium snap. In component universe, is optional. Built by chromium-browser. Size 48 kB / 160 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, armhf, arm64.)22:17
geniiAlthough I think it actually just calls snapd to install it22:18
Jeremy31genii: It does22:19
Jeremy31One snap package that works in all supported Ubuntu versions22:19
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murthycan anyone help to hunt a bug?22:24
leftyfb!ask | murthy22:25
ubottumurthy: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:25
murthyI need help with reproducing a bug so that I can report it properly22:25
murthykate crashes when disabling "Dynamic word warp" with large text only when that text is from clipboard and not when on saved file22:25
murthyhttps://pastebin.com/3RAi6CCr22:26
murthythats the text22:26
murthyWhen I save it to disk and open it with kate and then disable "Dynamic word wrap" kate doesn't crash22:26
murthynote in that previous step I had replaced "\n<space><space>" with "<space>" before saving22:26
murthybut when I copy the text from clipboard and then do the replacements and then disable "Dynamic word wrap" kate crashes22:26
murthyI have a complete backtrace with all the debug symbols installed22:27
murthybut I am afraid the devs will not be able to reproduce the bug without that exact clipboard text22:27
jhutchinsmurthy: Versions of everything please.22:27
murthysure, wait22:27
leftyfbmurthy: it sounds like you have enough information to file a bug22:28
leftyfb!bug | murthy22:28
ubottumurthy: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.22:28
murthyjhutchins: https://pastebin.com/pFL5cVWq22:28
murthyleftyfb: nope, I still lack the steps to properly reproduce it22:28
leftyfbmurthy: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 999922:28
murthywait22:29
murthyleftyfb: https://termbin.com/d64q22:29
leftyfbmurthy: you're not running Ubuntu22:29
leftyfbmurthy: you're running an OS based on Ubuntu, but it is not Ubuntu22:30
murthyhttps://pastebin.com/vMQpZ1mU22:31
murthythats the backtrace22:31
murthyleftyfb: yes, I am using KDE Neon User editon ISO22:31
leftyfbmurthy: right, that is not Ubuntu. We can only support official released of Ubuntu here. Not distributions based on Ubuntu like KDE Neon22:32
leftyfbmurthy: https://webchat.kde.org/#/room/#kde-neon-users:kde.org22:32
murthyleftyfb: Ya know, but I need guidance22:34
murthyleftyfb: not distro specific help22:34
leftyfbmurthy: the link I just posted is the proper place to get support for your linux distro22:35
murthyleftyfb: Ya I know. Ok I had already asked this on #kde-devel, ade[m] is asking about it, I will try to get help with them. Thanks for the support22:36
jose_oi23:10
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