=== genii is now known as genii-core [00:36] what is the cache memory amount in system monitor? [00:42] goddard: memory used to store the contents of files from disk in memory -- eg executing programs, data that was recently used or the system predicts might be used soon, etc [00:42] sarnold: is that a gnome specific indexing or my IDE? [00:43] 16 Gigs just isn't enough [00:45] goddard: it's a basic kernel feature, it predates gnome by a lot [00:45] i see i wonder if 6.6 gigs is a good amount or if something is going wrong here [00:46] 6.6 gigs is great [00:46] if you were under a lot of memory pressure that number would be a lot lower [00:46] you've reminded me of this classic old website :) https://www.linuxatemyram.com/ [00:47] my system does run out of memory though and even fills my small amount of swap(only 2gigs) [00:47] causes my system to lock up and it is a pretty new laptop with higher end components [00:49] ah, then maybe it is time for more memory [00:49] https://i.postimg.cc/yxJxS3d1/Screenshot-from-2022-02-23-19-49-09.png [00:50] java IDEs are such a memory hog [00:51] yup === mkv is now known as m4v === Scotty_Trees2 is now known as Scotty_Trees === Avago_Broadqual0 is now known as Avago_Broadqual [02:23] How can I updatento the latest version of gnome on Ubuntu 21:10 [02:27] latest stable is 40, you have it already [02:27] 42 is in alpha stage [02:27] I'd like to update to gnome 41.3 that's the lastest stable version [02:29] wait for next Jammy, or try the beta ? [02:30] !next [02:30] Jammy Jellyfish is the codename for Ubuntu 22.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. [02:31]  Ok thanks, I thought there would be a way to update to the latest version without a fresh install [02:32] hey my ubuntu using UEFI is skipping the boot menu [02:32] i want to choose from the grub options [02:32] usually you need to hold down left shift when booting to get the menu [02:32] oh [02:34] didn't help [02:34] what should i fix in /etc/default/grub to fix this? === jje1 is now known as jje [02:35] You can edit the grub timeout in /etc/default/grub [02:36] Use a text editor and change the timeout to 5 [02:36] yeah i already set it to 20 . i resolved it though [02:36] ghost: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1264119/how-to-change-grub-timeout-in-ubuntu-20-04 [02:36] there was a line that said "hidden" [02:36] commented that line and now it werks [02:37] Awesome glad you fixed it === jje` is now known as jje === juno__ is now known as junebug === Pony is now known as Guest5213 === Gallomimia- is now known as Gallomimia [05:16] Hi All, I am trying to incorporate deb files into ISO from local build.. could anyone please suggest me how to incorprate these deb file into iso? [05:18] Is it possible to create local file based repo from build and pull the packages in ISO ... defining local source.list [05:56] prawat: if you want to use it as a repository later on, one way is to use reprepro. If you just want the .debs to be available, you can just put them in a folder and bind-mounts it over /var/cache/apt/archives [05:59] alkisg:  I want create the repo then use it while constructing ISO ... Is it possible to fetch those packages from same build process ? === diskin is now known as Guest5479 === diskin_ is now known as diskin [05:59] If you just copy or bind-mount deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives, they're available to apt and can be installed [05:59] alkisg: I have posted the question as well, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1394491/how-to-add-private-deb-packages-into-custom-iso-with-their-dependencies [06:01] Is it possible to override the /var/cache/apt/archives location to some other location, I mean within the build directory [06:02] I've read the question but I still didn't understand what you're asking for. I think you're confusing the "I have a private repo" with the "I want to create a repo in a generated DVD" [06:03] I think you don't care if you have a private repo or not, right? You just want the packages to go to the DVD repo, so that they're available when that DVD is used as an install media? [06:04] alkisg: No confusion here, the private repo option eliminated because of the apt update requred to fetch the latest packages [06:04] Well when you pointed me to that question it was still there :) [06:05] Anyway I don't understand what part you don't know how to do [06:07] I want to create a repo with private deb files  in a generated DVD and the repo should also contains the dependencies packages. [06:07] The dependencies for what? [06:08] And starting from where? [06:08] E.g. if you're expecting the user to start from `debootstrap` and then use the repo, the dependencies are more than if you're expecting them to start using a desktop installation [06:08] Dependency packages for my private packages.. those I can pull it from the ubuntu repo === Gallomimia- is now known as Gallomimia === arif-ali_ is now known as arif-ali [07:02] Hello I have a unique issue. I forget my bios password and clearing the CMOS jumper or removing the battery has dose not work. I need a fresh install.... Can I boot a live usb from the grub menu [07:03] yes ghost there's an iso2grub method [07:04] ghost: check here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot [07:04] Thank you ! [07:05] ghost: do you have your cd/dvd as primary boot order? [08:47] hello [08:48] welcome odracir1970 [08:49] i have a questiom, i have install zorin os 16, but my aghenda is in german en the rest is in english? [08:49] thnx lotuspsychje [08:50] odracir1970: Zorin Os is not supported here, we only do ubuntu and their !flavours [08:50] i see [08:50] odracir1970: what you can consider is installing ubuntu and come seek help in this community [08:52] i try many os this 3 months , but i had problems with my nvidia geforce rtx 370 [08:52] this os had solved my problem [08:54] lotuspsychje, what kind of os do you have ? [08:54] odracir1970: im using ubuntu desktop 20.04 and 22.04 on my computers [08:55] odracir1970: the currently supported ubuntu releases you can see in our topic /topic [08:55] thnx [08:56] nice that i can ask some questions here if i have trouble [08:56] do you support also fedora ? [08:57] odracir1970: no, only ubuntu releases and their !flavours [08:57] !flavours [08:57] Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours [08:57] haha, i pick the 2 wrong os i see [08:59] i have treid ubuntu 20.04 [09:00] but my rtx did not work propperly [09:00] odracir1970: you could try again, then come back here and seek help [09:00] odracir1970: usualy big RTX cards would need latest nvidia drivers, its solveable [09:01] thats a option i wil think a bouth [09:01] in ubuntu 20.04 was a pakage 470 i think [09:02] when i ussed it, i had delay on my main screen [09:03] and if pickt de older version i cant get de 5 k resolution [09:04] no i have only a prolem that my agenda is in german [09:05] i want to buy a min linux pc , i vcan run then 20.04 [09:06] if i have quetstions i can come here [09:18] I have a ubuntu server installed that was previously running with a AMD card. I had to replace it with an nvidia and the system locks at boot time. How can I reconfigure to make it work? Thanks in advance [09:34] DynamiteDan: does it mention any errors before locking? [09:35] not that I figure them out [09:35] I can't access the boot menu [09:35] it is a legacy setup [09:35] DynamiteDan: also did you try from grub > advanced > recovery kernel, then choose boot in low graphics mode? [09:36] holding shift should give you grub [09:36] I can't see the menu [09:36] let me try [09:40] ok. the system booted in recovery mode [09:40] I have choose normal mode [09:40] and it is startijg with image [09:41] how can I force safe mode? [09:42] i think that's the low graphics mode by default [09:42] this is a server though [09:42] well, it will use 'nomodeset' i think, it might help [09:43] I place that in the kernel paramenters right? [09:43] try pressing esc to get boot log while it boots [09:43] DynamiteDan: yeah it should already be there since you used the recovery mode === XAT is now known as XATRIX [09:45] now I wan't to force safemode in all normal boots [09:46] DynamiteDan: ok edit /etc/default/grub [09:46] next to quiet splash put nomodeset, then save and run 'sudo update-grub' [09:48] is it on /etc/default/grub ? [09:50] yes [09:50] should be this line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" [09:50] okay. it is running now :) [09:50] thanks for your help [09:51] great, no problem [10:12] Is there a way to get Ubuntu to remember what audio device I prefer to use? It seems to choose an arbitrary audio output device when I boot and it's annoying [10:14] mort open pavucontrol set your preferred device as fallback [10:14] well they left, but: ubuntu forgets that on reboot === arif-ali_ is now known as arif-ali === mirespace_ is now known as mirespace [11:10] Bummer. Apparently, the latest #Ubuntu "linux-oem-20.04[abc]" kernel packages for #Focal now all point to version 5.14.0.1024.22—Is this intentional even though kernel 5.14 reached EOL upstream while kernel 5.10 did not? [11:20] Doesn't Canonical maintain its kernels on its own? Why would "upstream EOL" matter then? [11:23] i dont think its a good i idea trying to keep an EOL kernel alive by the kernel team [11:23] thats a really big task [11:24] ueberall: i don't see why it would not be intentional. canonical has previously maintained kernel versions when they are no longer supported upstream, and as far as i know there's no reason to assume they can't now. unrelated to that, generally speaking, i would recommend using generic kernel if you don't have any dependency on oem kernels (mostly because there will be less patches applied to these kernels). [11:33] #java === arif-ali_ is now known as arif-ali === diskin_ is now known as diskin === genii-core is now known as genii [13:58] Hi folks [14:35] test [15:25] ueberall: Canonical does support kernels outside the upstream LTS on a regular basis. And Canonical will support them fully for as long as they are listed as being supported (so possibly through ESM) === diskin is now known as Guest5255 === diskin_ is now known as diskin [17:10] Hey guys, I was wondereing about precedence in apache configurtation. which directive will be used if to contradict each other? lets say i "Include conf.d/*.conf" at the first line of httpd.conf. Would the rest of the settings in that file only count if not set otherwise in conf.d? [17:14] betuxy: It's first match wins. So if you pull in another file right at the beginning those get processed first [17:14] okay thanks :) [17:15] As soon as it hits a match it stops looking for futher rules to process [17:18] I have another question, how do I prevent apache to just take the first vhost instead of showing a 40x when a site is not accesible? [17:18] do I need to configure an extra vhost just to serve a deny? [17:23] betuxy, you probably have more luck to get qualified answers in #ubuntu-server [17:23] ogra: thanks [18:07] betuxy: Yeah, or direct the default host to a 404. [18:07] It seems to me that there might be a "default" directive, but I'm not sure about that. [18:08] Then again, maybe the default host should be an ad for your services. [18:46] anyone have a suggestion on a cute, simple gui widget/whatever to watch cpu/gpu temps? [18:47] cute is optional [18:50] mybalzitch: What desktop are you using? THe Ubuntu default is gnome. [19:03] kde [19:04] mybalzitch: maybe ask in #kubuntu about KDE widgets [19:13] hi [19:15] is debian supported here [19:15] i moved from ubuntu to debian [19:15] is debian supported here [19:15] or only ubuntu [19:16] andrew2: only Ubuntu [19:17] andrew2: type: /part and then type: /join #debian [19:17] i use sudo apt install on debian [19:17] and i use ubuntu before and ubuntu also have that command [19:17] andrew2: good luck with Debian. Please ask for support with Debian in #debian [19:20] i do sudo apt-get install gimp on debian and it installs like ubuntu [19:20] !debian [19:20] Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian - !Repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu! [19:20] andrew2: Please join #debian for support with Debian [19:20] but my ip is banned their === Scotty_Trees2 is now known as Scotty_Trees [19:21] andrew2: sorry to hear that. We cannot help you with Debian here [19:21] i made my debian look like ubuntu [19:21] how do i put ubuntu repos on apt [19:22] i used the distro based around ubuntu [19:23] andrew2: that is not supported here nor by Debian. It is not suggested to do and there would be little benefit and lots of broken packages from doing so [19:23] but i want to install [19:23] ubuntu packages on my debian [19:24] andrew2: if you would like to continue to receive support here, install Ubuntu [19:24] i switched from ubuntu from debian a few hours ago [19:24] i mean i switched from ubuntu back to debian [19:25] andrew2: good luck with Debian. Please seek support from Debian. Otherwise, if you would like to continue to receive support here, install Ubuntu. [19:25] can i connect to vpn [19:25] to connect to the debian channel [19:25] krytarik: sarnold: ogra: care to chime in here? [19:26] will you allow me to connect to vpn [19:26] for me to join #debian [19:26] andrew2: we have nothing to do with #debian. Please stay on topic here. This channel is for Ubuntu support. Not Debian [19:33] My Ubuntu server only allows for authentication via keys, and I'm trying to figure out how to set up SSH access via keys using PuTTY. Assuming that I'm logged into my server via terminal, how would I go about making sure that my Windows PC can access it via Putty? [19:34] quackgyver: you need to convert your RSA private key to putty format [19:34] I don't know that I have a private key. I set it up once and then forgot about it, so I'm starting from scratch. [19:34] I don't know where to begin really. [19:35] I followed a recommended tutorial by my host when setting this up, so I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to key authentication. [19:36] And I can't find the tutorial again, so I can't revisit the process. [19:36] quackgyver: https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-set-up-ssh-keys-on-ubuntu-20-04/ Use this to create an ssh key pair. Test it from another linux machine to ssh to your ubuntu machine. Or use your ubuntu machine to test ssh'ing to itself [19:36] quackgyver: then use https://blog.ronin.cloud/connect-to-linux-putty/ to convert the private to putty format [19:38] quackgyver: Ordinarily, you would generate a public key (and a private) with your putty client, then transfer the key to the server. If you can't connect with a password, I don't know how you would establish a key pair. You would probably need to contact your provider for instructions. [19:39] jhutchins: I already have authentication set up on my *nix PC. But it was a long time ago, and I don't know what I did. [19:40] leftyfb: I'm following your link, but I immediately get stuck at "If the command returns something like No such file or directory, or no matches found, it means that the user does not have SSH keys" because this is the message I'm getting, but I know that I do have keys set up since I can auth from my other PC. [19:49] quackgyver: The solution would be to take the public key generated by putty - using the "paste" option to transform it to standard SSH format if necessary - and copy it to the *nix system, then use that system to copy the key to the .ssh/authorized_keys file. Make sure to append the key to the file, don't overwrite it. You may want to make a copy of the file before altering it. [19:50] quackgyver: Each system connecting to the server must have a private key that matches a public key in the authorized_hosts file. [19:58] I'm scratching my head here. I've got an encrypted installation on my laptop. It seems to not want to boot (can't find the lvm root device), but the non-encrypted bootloader works fine. Everything I'm reading says i need to update my initramfs (fair) [19:58] but the only way to do that is to chroot in. [19:58] i've booted a livecd, but it doesn't see the nvme pcie drive. [19:58] at all. [19:59] jhutchins: Alright, I'll give it a try. Thanks. :-) [20:07] quackgyver: My putty experience is a bit old, sorry if I'm light on details. [20:11] No worries. It's a good starting point. Appreciate it. :-) [20:16] wasutton, try a diffrent livecd, and if it only complains that it cant find the root device if it is as easy to change the partition number you can just edit the grub entry assuming you use grub and boot that way [20:20] jhutchins: Worked like a charm, and helped me understand keys better. Didn't know it was as easy as adding it to the authed keys on the server side. [20:20] Thank you. :-) [20:34] Hola [20:34] hi === rm_rf is now known as yippeekaiyay === beaver is now known as tchupie [20:35] . [20:36] Someone can help me to read files from hfsplus file sytem that I just mount for read only but it is asking for a password when i tried to read some directories? [20:36] quackgyver: Key infrastructure used to be a big mystery to me too, until I figured out that it's actually pretty simple.. [21:13] Aye. :-) [21:15] I am not able to find debug symbols for libglib2.0-0 from the official repository for 20.04 [21:16] using KDE Neon User editon ISO [21:16] murthy: they're on the ddebs.ubuntu.com repo http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/ -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages [21:16] there is only libglib-testing-0-0-dbgsym package [21:17] checking [21:17] hey sarnold [21:17] remember our talk the other night? [21:18] guess the answer is so far inconclusive. ;> [21:18] err, anyway [21:18] sers: no, sorry [21:18] OK. [21:18] :> [21:19] guess the brain/memory isn't what it used to be. ;> [21:19] probably not, and my irssi instance restarted recently, so no /lastlog to help me out [21:20] I was talking about multiple partitions created on a dual-boot disk consisting of win10 and ubuntu and why there were partitions created by the ubuntu installer upon re-installing only the unbuntu OS. [21:21] I had interesting experiences with GRUB and re-installs so far... ;P [21:21] Well, what do you mean by restarted recently? Did it crash? [21:22] sers: oh yeah that does sound familiar now :) bummer you haven't gotten to the bottom of it :( [21:22] sers: yeah, it's a *tiny* vm, and probably fell over when a snapd update was installed [21:22] I was happy on znc with its scrollback, also on psybnc, but I mostly never had any issues with, let's say, screen+irssi detached running somewhere, regarding the scrollback... [21:22] snapd* purge ;P [21:23] kidding, I was just thinking about giving `sudo snap set system experimental.parallel-instances=true' a try... [21:24] yeah, irssi in tmux has mostly worked great, but aws lightsail prevents just adding more memory to the machine -- you've got to build a brand new machine instead, so ... but I wanted livepatch, and livepatch comes via snap, so now i've got snap, too. poor little vm [21:24] and install multiple instances of firefox, as in edge, beta, stable, parallel... [21:24] goodness, aws shell stuff... [21:24] I read about it a few months ago, and even considered it... [21:24] but then... [21:24] nothing happened [21:24] :> [21:25] livepatch, hm... [21:25] do you work on a heavy workload machine or something? === Guest42 is now known as ednash [21:26] in my opinion, snap is the wrong path. [21:26] migrate everything back to apt/dpkg and call it a day. ;P [21:26] sers: yeah I've been meaning to switch away from aws for a long time, but .. never get around to it [21:26] and terminate aptitude on the way ;P [21:26] sers: livepatch is nice to get kernel security fixes without restarting irssi and losing scrollback :) [21:27] well, I used to idle maintained shells by guys who knew what they were doing, even had a spoof every now and then, irdc-wise... [21:27] so aws, is like, a nice distraction perhaps, maintained by some **** who don't care much for the user's everyday issues... [21:27] err, * [21:28] there is linode, they have support and nice how to articles [21:28] I used to idle FreeBSD shells too. ;P [21:28] Well, let's say, I idled FreeBSD shells on FreeBSD. [21:28] Without the need for X. [21:28] :p [21:29] sarnold: Are you into kernel mechanics? [21:29] Do you build anything? [21:29] Or contribute to kernel? [21:29] sers: I feel comfortable reading most of the kernel sources, but don't contribute to it in any real way [21:30] sarnold: OK. [21:30] sarnold: Well, neither am I. ;P [21:31] sarnold: that helped, thanks! [21:33] Well, anyway, time's almost up for me. ;P [21:33] sarnold: It was good talking. [21:33] take care [21:33] later [21:34] dang, look away for a few minutes.. [21:35] murthy: woot :) [22:05] I am stuck with all my chrome windows full height and I cant grab the bottom. (and alt-drag (the page above the top of the screen) no longer works. 20.04 [22:06] Is there some auto way to make all the chrome windows fit over the entire screen which would shorten the height of the windows?? [22:08] whoo I have fixed it by making all windows minimized and then messing around. DONE [22:10] gj [22:10] Make a new short window and then move each tab to that new window. Obviously this is a crude, horrible solution but it works. Ewww. Not cool. [22:10] hi matsaman - you do what you must [22:13] f'totes [22:13] !info chrome [22:13] Package chrome does not exist in impish [22:16] !info chromium [22:17] Package chromium does not exist in impish [22:17] -browser [22:17] yep [22:17] !info chromium-browser [22:17] chromium-browser (1:85.0.4183.83-0ubuntu2, impish): Transitional package - chromium-browser -> chromium snap. In component universe, is optional. Built by chromium-browser. Size 48 kB / 160 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, armhf, arm64.) [22:18] Although I think it actually just calls snapd to install it [22:19] genii: It does [22:19] One snap package that works in all supported Ubuntu versions === Scotty_Trees2 is now known as Scotty_Trees [22:24] can anyone help to hunt a bug? [22:25] !ask | murthy [22:25] murthy: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [22:25] I need help with reproducing a bug so that I can report it properly [22:25] kate crashes when disabling "Dynamic word warp" with large text only when that text is from clipboard and not when on saved file [22:26] https://pastebin.com/3RAi6CCr [22:26] thats the text [22:26] When I save it to disk and open it with kate and then disable "Dynamic word wrap" kate doesn't crash [22:26] note in that previous step I had replaced "\n" with "" before saving [22:26] but when I copy the text from clipboard and then do the replacements and then disable "Dynamic word wrap" kate crashes [22:27] I have a complete backtrace with all the debug symbols installed [22:27] but I am afraid the devs will not be able to reproduce the bug without that exact clipboard text [22:27] murthy: Versions of everything please. [22:27] sure, wait [22:28] murthy: it sounds like you have enough information to file a bug [22:28] !bug | murthy [22:28] murthy: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [22:28] jhutchins: https://pastebin.com/pFL5cVWq [22:28] leftyfb: nope, I still lack the steps to properly reproduce it [22:28] murthy: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999 [22:29] wait [22:29] leftyfb: https://termbin.com/d64q [22:29] murthy: you're not running Ubuntu [22:30] murthy: you're running an OS based on Ubuntu, but it is not Ubuntu [22:31] https://pastebin.com/vMQpZ1mU [22:31] thats the backtrace [22:31] leftyfb: yes, I am using KDE Neon User editon ISO [22:32] murthy: right, that is not Ubuntu. We can only support official released of Ubuntu here. Not distributions based on Ubuntu like KDE Neon [22:32] murthy: https://webchat.kde.org/#/room/#kde-neon-users:kde.org [22:34] leftyfb: Ya know, but I need guidance [22:34] leftyfb: not distro specific help [22:35] murthy: the link I just posted is the proper place to get support for your linux distro [22:36] leftyfb: Ya I know. Ok I had already asked this on #kde-devel, ade[m] is asking about it, I will try to get help with them. Thanks for the support [23:10] oi === genii is now known as genii-core