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| Guest1598 | Hi, I am tryng to install xplane in xubuntu | 00:22 |
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| Guest1598 | but when I run ldd Intaller_Linux, the terminal says:it is not a dynamic executable | 00:24 |
| Guest1598 | can you help me? I think becuase it is an installer for 32bits distros | 00:24 |
| melodie | hi Guest1598 | 01:11 |
| melodie | Xubuntu and Ubuntu generally don't provide for 32bits anymore | 01:11 |
| melodie | where did you get your xplane from? | 01:12 |
| melodie | why do you run "ldd Installer_Linux" ? | 01:12 |
| melodie | whatever | 01:13 |
| Guest1598 | thanks for answer | 01:55 |
| Guest1598 | I downloaded from https://ia804505.us.archive.org/13/items/x-plane-9/XPLANE9%20%28Disc%201%29.iso | 01:55 |
| Guest1598 | I use ldd to know the required libraries! | 01:56 |
| pikapika | Is there any way to use a different icon image in whiskermenu when its in a depressed state (also preferably another icon for hover state)? | 06:18 |
| pikapika | Which is to say, I want to use an icon that appears depressed when its clicked etc | 06:19 |
| KBar | pikapika: yes, there is. all you have to do is create an icon and include it in gtk.css | 06:59 |
| KBar | pikapika: i did something like that: https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=15374 | 06:59 |
| pikapika | KBar, can you show me a small gif showing the whiskermenu hover and click thing | 07:02 |
| pikapika | as its working on your system. You can pm if you prefer | 07:02 |
| pikapika | What happens in the default whiskermenu is that the icon does not change only background colors are changed on hover and click | 07:02 |
| pikapika | I would like to make the icon itself change to a depressed look | 07:03 |
| KBar | yes, it's very much possible. i'll try taking two screenshots if you're okay waiting | 07:04 |
| pikapika | https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=64946#p64946 | 07:04 |
| pikapika | This one right? | 07:04 |
| KBar | pikapika: it has changed quite a lot since then. it doesn't show the glow on being pressed | 07:05 |
| KBar | i improved it. | 07:05 |
| pikapika | I'd like to see the screenshots/gif yes | 07:05 |
| pikapika | Did you just use full icons or does the system only permit adding another background icon behind the normal icon? | 07:05 |
| KBar | pikapika: this is its default state: https://imgur.com/1zalH7K.png | 07:05 |
| KBar | this is on hover: https://imgur.com/e07Ucki.png | 07:06 |
| pikapika | In that case, it will be some more work for me. But since in the design I want to make, depressed/normal state changes only occur at the border of the pixmap | 07:06 |
| pikapika | so it can work out | 07:06 |
| pikapika | KBar, so the arrow is the background image right? | 07:06 |
| KBar | pikapika: and this is on depressed: https://imgur.com/UH2TvBn.png | 07:06 |
| pikapika | The hover and depressed states also look like things that could be implemented purely as background icons | 07:07 |
| pikapika | Is that what you did? | 07:07 |
| pikapika | Or does whiskermenu allow you to change the icon wholesale on hover/press? | 07:07 |
| KBar | pikapika: the xubuntu logo is set inside Whiskermenu properties. The borders, colors and arrows I copied from Unity design and created separate png files with gimp | 07:07 |
| KBar | and used them inside css | 07:07 |
| KBar | button:hover, button:checked, etc | 07:08 |
| pikapika | KBar, so basically only the mouse icon is the real icon | 07:08 |
| pikapika | The rest are implemented as background images? | 07:08 |
| KBar | yes | 07:08 |
| pikapika | Can I see the png sources to confirm? | 07:08 |
| KBar | sure. hold on | 07:11 |
| KBar | pikapika: turns out, the latest version, i just use the stock arrows from unity and layer them on top | 07:18 |
| pikapika | This means I can implement win2k start menu easily | 07:19 |
| pikapika | but win 7 would be tough | 07:19 |
| pikapika | My goal was win2k style primarily so that should be ok | 07:19 |
| KBar | pikapika: here's an excerpt from my gtk.css: https://paste.debian.net/1232083/ | 07:20 |
| KBar | pikapika: resources are here: https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/tree/resources | 07:21 |
| pikapika | yeah so basically we can't replace the icon only add another background image to it | 07:23 |
| pikapika | should be possible to do for the win2k start menu then, by including the common region inside as the icon, and making the border the background image | 07:24 |
| KBar | pikapika: which icon do you mean? the whiskermenu icon? | 07:24 |
| KBar | you can replace it | 07:24 |
| KBar | and put anything you want | 07:24 |
| pikapika | KBar, we can't dynamically replace it | 07:24 |
| pikapika | so we will have to use the background image trick to create the depressed look | 07:24 |
| pikapika | for that the actual icon would be the common region between all icon states | 07:25 |
| KBar | well, you can modify the code and recompile | 07:25 |
| pikapika | and the background image the varying region | 07:25 |
| pikapika | Yeah, that is one possibility too | 07:25 |
| pikapika | I hope its not too complex | 07:25 |
| KBar | to make it change dynamically, but css is quite powerful and is all you need imo | 07:25 |
| KBar | there is also sass, which is a preprocessor to css, but i haven't looked into that route | 07:25 |
| KBar | pikapika: you can also add animations to transitions | 07:27 |
| pikapika | I don't need animations | 07:28 |
| pikapika | KBar, CSS is very subtle and difficult | 07:37 |
| pikapika | I'll see what I can do of course | 07:37 |
| KBar | pikapika: where do you find it difficult? Let's see if I can help you | 07:38 |
| pikapika | I'll ask when I actually get around to doing it thanks | 07:39 |
| pikapika | KBar, it just is very complex and hard to understand | 07:39 |
| KBar | no problem. xfce forums are a great source of information. there are two very good guides explaining GTK's css implementation | 07:39 |
| KBar | btw, its documentation is available at https://docs.gtk.org/gtk3/ | 07:40 |
| pikapika | Thanks | 07:40 |
| KBar | yw. it basically boils down to 1) which element you want to select 2) which property you want to modify 3) what is that new value | 07:41 |
| KBar | 1) is done with selectors (eg, .toolbar or #XfcePanelWindow) 2) after that declarations are made inside braces and properties are in it: { background-color: or font-size: } 3) their new values are put after the colon eg background-color: white; font-size: 15px etc | 07:43 |
| pikapika | KBar, where did you learn CSS from? | 08:27 |
| KBar | pikapika: 1) Xfce Forum; 2) gtk.org 3) mdn (mozilla developers networks) 4) w3.org 5) installed themes | 08:37 |
| pikapika | Its a very complex topic for sure | 08:37 |
| KBar | its a lot more complex yes, but gtk's implementation is pretty straightforward and "dumbed down" | 08:37 |
| KBar | becomes easy once you get a hang of it. GtkInspector is the the tool that will help you tremendously | 08:38 |
| KBar | it is a necessity, i'd say | 08:38 |
| KBar | now, id say that it takes a lot more time to draw or edit images in gimp than it does for me to write a couple of rulesets in gtk.css | 08:40 |
| pikapika | KBar, do you know about 'antialiasing'? | 08:43 |
| pikapika | I would like to experiment with implementing antialiasing in my programs one of these days | 08:43 |
| KBar | pikapika: unfortunately, not enough to give you an opinion or a comprehensive answer | 08:43 |
| pikapika | Ok | 08:44 |
| KBar | such discussion wouldn't fit this channel anyway, im afraid | 08:44 |
| pikapika | Ok | 08:44 |
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| === xu-help38w is now known as chaslinux | ||
| chaslinux | Was refurbishing a machine with Xubuntu earlier and found an issue where VLC crashes when you insert an encrypted DVD (movie). Libdvd-pkg was installed and dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg was run to install libdvdcss2. I ran vlc from the terminal and noticed it seems to be related to the 256MB AMD-based onboard video for this particular HP desktop | 21:40 |
| chaslinux | (P7-1010): https://support.hp.com/ca-en/document/c02856262. To "solve" the problem I added a video card (which did resolve the issue). I would have submitted a bug report, but I haven't used my Ubuntu One account in ages (and the forgot password doesn't seem to like me - check spam, nothing). Not sure it's worth fixing, but since it's an OEM | 21:40 |
| chaslinux | machine with an older 4 core AMD processor it might be worth a stab at fixing). | 21:40 |
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