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| Blade-Runner | i see, 150 people in the room an no one saying a word | 04:03 |
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| Bashing-om | Blade-Runner: Support: all quiet == all systems green :D | 04:04 |
| sarnold | there's 381 folks having a quiet contest in #idlerpg :) | 04:04 |
| Blade-Runner | um, i never had a quiet moment with ubuntu all chaos, no peace | 04:05 |
| oerheks | wait for the 22.04 release :-D | 04:06 |
| Blade-Runner | it was reinstall semi weekly,, an then tweaks again and again | 04:06 |
| Blade-Runner | now my pc is stable and running almost flawless | 04:08 |
| Blade-Runner | but it aint ubuntu | 04:08 |
| oerheks | we feel your sadness. | 04:08 |
| Blade-Runner | sorry to say but ok i found my niche | 04:08 |
| Blade-Runner | sok each has there level | 04:09 |
| Blade-Runner | i dont hate ubuntu its just not my choice for now | 04:10 |
| Blade-Runner | i have friends that like it | 04:10 |
| Blade-Runner | i wish you all the best, live long and fair well. | 04:11 |
| Trel | Is there something I can add in grub to trigger if it loads systemd's graphical or multi-user targets or is that not something I can affect that early? | 04:22 |
| Trel | (Like a different boot option for either) | 04:22 |
| sarnold | grub ceases to exist long before you get to systemd | 04:23 |
| sarnold | what are you trying to accomplish? | 04:23 |
| Trel | Being able to choose graphical or multi-user at boot time. | 04:24 |
| sarnold | aha | 04:24 |
| Trel | I know I can drop to a TTY and change it with isolate, but it'd be nice not to have to do a full graphical boot or vice versa | 04:25 |
| sarnold | Trel: try systemd.unit=multi-user.target or whatever at the kernel command line in grub -- I got that from https://michlstechblog.info/blog/linux-set-systemd-target-init-level-at-grub-command-line/ which is sadly a bit thin on details :) but it had what I wanted high in google's list | 04:25 |
| Trel | Cool, I'll take a look. If nothing else, it'll be a starting point! Thanks! | 04:26 |
| sarnold | good luck, hope it's easy :) | 04:26 |
| Trel | Yeah, that's exactly what I'm looking for. I can duplicate my current boot entry and I'll do one for each | 04:27 |
| Trel | I already have an entry for no kernel mitigations | 04:27 |
| sarnold | "gofast!" :) | 04:27 |
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| ednash | how do i shrink a luks encrypted logical volume with ext4? | 05:06 |
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| webchat78 | hey | 06:57 |
| webchat78 | is anybody here?? | 06:58 |
| alkisg | !ask | 06:58 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 06:58 |
| webchat78 | i have installed ubuntu on my hp laptop and my bluetooth is not working it says no bluetooth adapters found but i have one plz help me in solving this problem | 07:00 |
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| sweb | is it bad practice to run local chronyd inside virtual machine , for local ntp server? | 09:15 |
| gevreeen | can someone tell me what upload.ubuntu.com is about? | 09:40 |
| gevreeen | (say, is it a file sharing service?) | 09:40 |
| gevreeen | never mind | 09:43 |
| Bashing-om | gevreeen: You have in mind - https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop ? | 09:44 |
| gevreeen | just mistook the upload prefix as an indication for file sharing | 09:45 |
| gevreeen | (alas, you should do the ftp upload over ssh) | 09:46 |
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| ice9 | what about those errors and can they cause instability or malfuntion? https://bpa.st/FQVA | 10:29 |
| oerheks | check for a bios update? | 10:30 |
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| sam_sepi0l | hi | 11:31 |
| sam_sepi0l | anythone there? | 11:32 |
| PTNapivoski | samuelbernardo, just ask | 11:33 |
| PTNapivoski | samuelbernardo, sorry | 11:33 |
| yomismo | buenos dias | 12:29 |
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| bluze | hi there-my ubuntu software center is behaving badly i cant find programs i normally can such as hexchat how can i fix software center-please help | 12:43 |
| bluze | from terminal is okay | 12:44 |
| rosaage | I have some weird problems with a USB camera and a hub. using python to stream the camera over http it randomly drops out and I have to restart it. running without the hub works fine. and running through the hub in windows worked fine after removing "allow windows to shutdown this device" on the hub. I have tried to disable autosuspend in ubuntu | 12:54 |
| rosaage | but I have no idea if it actually is disabled. my os version is 21.10. I just tested it in ffplay and it drops out there as well. | 12:54 |
| bluze | do you think its the hardware or the connection dropping or the software? | 12:58 |
| bluze | wireshark view the connection | 12:58 |
| rosaage | Trying to set up wireshark right now too see | 12:58 |
| bluze | that'd be where i'd start looking too hope you have some luck | 12:59 |
| taholmes160 | Hi Folks: When I first set up my ubuntu system, and was using the local screen, keyboard and mouse, the terminal window and nautilus both had really good looking themes on them. The machine is intended to run headless over the local area network and is accessed via RDC -- for some reason, the themes have vanished when I connect via RDC and the current ones are really ugly -- anyone know how I can | 13:07 |
| taholmes160 | Solve this? | 13:07 |
| taholmes160 | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946580367052255252/946580476007686164/unknown.png | 13:07 |
| SamVolvo | hi is there a way to solve the error i get all the time with the installers | 13:08 |
| samuk | I've got ~2k .pdf files in a folder. I want to delete the ones that contain the text 'noncommercial' This script lists them (in red) in my terminal: https://github.com/lsund/scripts/blob/master/pdfgrep how can I use that to _delete_ the files that contain 'noncommercial'? | 13:16 |
| samuk | I run zsh pdfgrep.sh freekidsbooks.org/ noncommercial to list them | 13:17 |
| EriC^^ | what's the list look like that pdfgrep.sh gives? | 13:18 |
| samuk | EriC^^, it's kinda messy, it scrolls in terminal as command runs, includes errors. It prints the text containing the term. | 13:22 |
| samuk | Just waiting for this to run to see if it works/is cleaner: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/pdfgrep-and-move.63485/#post-367282 | 13:22 |
| samuk | Give me a sec | 13:23 |
| semitones | can k3b verify the data integrity of an audio cd? ddg does not give great answers | 13:26 |
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| samuk | So this is cleaner and provides a list where the term is found: pdfgrep -r "noncommercial" *.pdf | cut -d: -f1 | sort -u | 13:34 |
| samuk | pdfgrep: Could not open Tanias-Costume-Party-FKB-Kids-Stories.pdf | 13:34 |
| samuk | Basic_Book_Design-Wiki-YA-high_school_lessons-FKB.pdf | 13:34 |
| samuk | Blake-and-the-Turtles.pdf | 13:34 |
| samuk | Ok running this now, can then just remove /delete if it works. cp `pdfgrep -r "noncommercial" *.pdf | cut -d: -f1 | sort -u` /delete | 13:41 |
| rosaage | bluze Sadly I can't seem to find anything odd in wireshark, the camera packets just stop with nothing else appearing | 13:48 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 14:14 |
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| mncheck | in focal when you end up having graphical sessions on both vt1 and vt2, what does that? the closest I found says X is on vt1 not vt7 in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes but that's not it | 14:27 |
| mncheck | if you lock the screen and next time there are two display managers to log into | 14:27 |
| Maik | hi peeps | 14:31 |
| mncheck | sddm? | 14:40 |
| mncheck | but gdm did it too | 14:41 |
| coz_ | hey all %) | 15:02 |
| alkisg | mncheck: yeah most display managers support launching multiple sessions, why? | 15:11 |
| mncheck | alkisg, I can't find the documentation on what happens here | 15:12 |
| mncheck | alkisg, I expected vt2 to vt7 to be a terminal login | 15:12 |
| mncheck | alkisg, I would like to know the documentation | 15:13 |
| alkisg | systemd shows a terminal on vt1-vt6 only if there are no other processes there | 15:13 |
| alkisg | And the DMs just use the first free vt to launch xorg | 15:13 |
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| mncheck | alkisg, I don't understand how gdm considers a virtual terminal running login "free" | 15:21 |
| mncheck | In my book that's a definition of reserved | 15:22 |
| mncheck | apparently gdm differs but I can't find the documentation on it | 15:22 |
| mncheck | In practice what happens is gdm sometimes really mess up the display and takes a long time to die trying | 15:24 |
| mncheck | it switches between vts a lot | 15:25 |
| mncheck | and faster than you can type | 15:25 |
| lucas__ | had issues with nouveau intel on X11 gnome tearing, instead use wayland problems are gone, even with flatpak... dont know why X11 is still default | 15:27 |
| Maik | X11 isn't default in Ubuntu, Wayland is lucas__ | 15:28 |
| Maik | it switches to X11 with nVidia cards afaik | 15:29 |
| lucas__ | Maik, i could be wrong but im sure ive installed 20.04.04 lts and X11 was default... i had to manually change to wayland in gdm | 15:29 |
| lucas__ | im not using nvidia propietary drivers either | 15:30 |
| Maik | ah, that version didn't have Wayland as default | 15:30 |
| mncheck | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes doesn't mention wayland | 15:30 |
| Maik | and they don't change that | 15:30 |
| Maik | iirc wayland became default again with 20.10 | 15:31 |
| mncheck | do ssh X forwardings work on wayland...? | 15:34 |
| leftyfb | mncheck: https://www.dbts-analytics.com/notesxfwdgb.html | 15:35 |
| alkisg | mncheck: vt's 1 to 6 are NOT reserved. systemd only spawns a getty there IF they're unused at the time you activate them | 15:35 |
| leftyfb | mncheck: first result on google for "wayland ssh x forwarding" | 15:35 |
| mncheck | leftyfb, thank you | 15:36 |
| mncheck | leftyfb, it is. although, google is not deterministic in general | 15:37 |
| dubuntu | bring back the unity desktop | 15:57 |
| coconut | dubuntu, go to #ubuntu-discuss for that | 15:58 |
| leftyfb | dubuntu: https://ubuntuunity.org/ | 15:58 |
| leftyfb | dubuntu: first result on google for "ubuntu unity" | 15:58 |
| mncheck | leftyfb, if you search "bring back unity desktop ubuntu", it's totally not the first one though | 16:01 |
| mybalzitch | less keywords | 16:02 |
| leftyfb | mncheck: this is why I share the search terms I use in order to find the information that is being sought over | 16:02 |
| mncheck | leftyfb, hm, thanks | 16:02 |
| krytarik | Well, there is more than one method to get the Unity desktop back though, so doing the web search with more keywords to get the specific context isn't wrong either. | 16:18 |
| pc_ | Hallo Ubuntu Freunde habe ein Problem :-( | 16:39 |
| Maik | !de | 16:43 |
| ubottu | In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! | 16:43 |
| Maik | pc_: ^ | 16:44 |
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| river | hey I just installed fresh 20.04 ubuntu! | 17:10 |
| river | what is it using for DNS resolution? | 17:10 |
| river | and network configuration? | 17:11 |
| jason1234 | Hej Linux guys, would be possible that GNU/Linux ban Russian IPs to use and to download opensource software? | 17:15 |
| jhutchins | jason1234: No. | 17:15 |
| Maik | !ot | jason1234 | 17:15 |
| ubottu | jason1234: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 17:15 |
| nadio | jason1234: why you asking for ? | 17:16 |
| Maik | or just ask in #linux the next time jason1234 | 17:16 |
| Maik | nadio: no need to continue on the matter since it's offtopic ;) | 17:17 |
| jason1234 | nadio: by concern | 17:17 |
| semitones | I have Lubuntu. Is there an app that lets you burn an audio CD and check for errors afterwards? K3b does not support this, and ddg is not helping me search :/ anyone know? | 17:17 |
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| jhutchins | semitones: Are you unable to find the verification feature on k3b? | 17:18 |
| Maik | semitones: i've been searching for you too on the web but couldn't find anything as of yet :/ | 17:21 |
| semitones | jhutchins: for audio CDs, yes I can't find it | 17:23 |
| jhutchins | semitones: What is your source for the image? | 17:23 |
| semitones | A .wav and a .cue I made myself | 17:23 |
| semitones | Maybe it's not possible? | 17:23 |
| jhutchins | !info wodim | 17:24 |
| ubottu | wodim (9:1.1.11-3.2build1, impish): command line CD/DVD writing tool. In component universe, is optional. Built by cdrkit. Size 289 kB / 958 kB | 17:24 |
| semitones | Thanks, I'll check it out! | 17:24 |
| semitones | hmm, i'm not seeing a verify in the man page of wodim either. Checking if cdrdao can do it... | 17:31 |
| semitones | I'm not seeing it in there either. Maybe EAC in wine would support it? What was that GNOME cd burner? maybe it has it | 17:34 |
| jhutchins | semitones: Brasero - the first search hit for "gnome cd burner". | 17:46 |
| semitones | i'll stop wasting y'alls time | 17:48 |
| river | how do I configure DNS with ubuntu? | 18:09 |
| Ravage | you need to be a little more specific. on a ubuntu desktop installation you can set DNS in the system settings of your network connection | 18:10 |
| Maik | river: if you put that in your search engine i bet you get a first hit: https://phoenixnap.com/kb/ubuntu-dns-nameservers | 18:13 |
| Maik | i hope that is helpful | 18:13 |
| river | that web page is very confusing | 18:14 |
| Ravage | it has pictures. im sure you will manage | 18:15 |
| Maik | https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/service-domain-name-service-dns | 18:15 |
| Maik | river: you have to put some effort in it yourself :) | 18:17 |
| river | i did :) I put lots of effort in and its not working :) | 18:17 |
| Ravage | maybe put some effort in explaining what you are trying to do then | 18:17 |
| Maik | search for other tutorials then...? | 18:17 |
| Ravage | which ubuntu version, desktop or server? what is not working? | 18:18 |
| jhutchins | semitones: Actually, I don't think it's a waste. It's been long enough since I burned an audio CD that I wouldn't be sure where to start, so watching your progress is useful to me. | 18:18 |
| river | I know why you guys are being weird about this question i have | 18:18 |
| Maik | Ravage: he mention earlier it was afresh installed 20.04 | 18:18 |
| jhutchins | semitones: That's the whole point of having a community is to share insight and experience. | 18:19 |
| semitones | jhutchins, well i am now not sure this was ever a feature in linux. I think iTunes might have done "verifying" but maybe not | 18:19 |
| Maik | river: we're not being weird at all. just provide some more info so people actually know what you try to do and may be able to help :) | 18:19 |
| jhutchins | semitones: I'm not sure there was either. A data CD is usually a copy of a compiled iso file, and you can compare the file with the image. | 18:23 |
| jhutchins | semitones: Your best bet might just be to play the CD! | 18:23 |
| Ravage | and a default audio CD has quite some redundant error correction data. its hard to create one that produces actual errors | 18:25 |
| Ravage | play it and if it sounds like the file you burned it from you are good | 18:26 |
| jhutchins | river: Your question is too broad. If you're getting your connection configuration from DHCP, it usually includes default DNS servers. If you're using Network Manager, either from the command line or the GUI, it has options to set static DNS. If you're doing a completely old-school manual setup, it's all in the /etc/network/interface and /etc/resolv.conf files. | 18:27 |
| semitones | jhutchins, lol that's how this all started :) My cd player was sometimes playing it correctly and sometimes getting stuck, and I wasn't sure if it was the CD's fault or the player's fault ;) | 18:27 |
| Ravage | semitones: try another CD and find out. if the player gets stuck on other CDs its the player :) | 18:28 |
| jhutchins | semitones: That's probably more hardware than software, like dirty heads or a different alignment between the player and the burner. | 18:28 |
| Ravage | i would try a pressed audio CD as a reference to test the player | 18:29 |
| semitones | Ravage, it seems to play commercial CDs as expected so far. I'll have to find some other burnt ones and see how that goes. I basically want to know if I can give this CD to a friend | 18:29 |
| Ravage | does it play in your burner? | 18:29 |
| Ravage | also.. just give your friend the CD. no better way to test it :) | 18:31 |
| semitones | hehe; yeah it plays fine in the burner | 18:31 |
| jhutchins | semitones: A dedicated cd player has probably been around for a while, it might be a good idea to clean the lens. | 18:32 |
| semitones | good advice. I don't think it's ever been cleaned. | 18:32 |
| ioria | semitones, you can check the disk with cdparanoia | 18:35 |
| semitones | ioria, i know that cdparanoia is good at re-reading a disk for error correction when there are scratches; can it also detect errors on a freshly-burnt cd with no scratches yet | 18:36 |
| ioria | semitones, well, manpage tells that -X option can do it : If the read skips due to imperfect data, a scratch, whatever, abort reading this track. If output is to a file, delete the partially completed file. | 18:36 |
| semitones | oh cool! | 18:37 |
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| semitones | cdparanoia has a neat interface. It shows [ > ] with the angle bracket progressing. And if it detects an error, it puts a - or other symbol. Otherwise it is left blank. Also it shows :-) for normal operation and :^D for completed rip | 18:46 |
| jhutchins | Great! We have unearthed an unexpected resource! Thanks ioria! | 18:48 |
| semitones | you know how people used to say "burn at 4x speed if you don't want to make a coaster" well... i never believed them. It looks like i am not finding any errors so far | 18:48 |
| ioria | jhutchins, no prob | 18:49 |
| river | when I do host foo it fails, when I do host foo <custom-dns-server> it works | 18:50 |
| river | I cannot seem to tell the system to use my custom-dns-server | 18:50 |
| semitones | does dig help in this scenario or is it for something else | 18:50 |
| jhutchins | river: Again, we don't have enough information on how YOU set up your networking to help. | 18:50 |
| river | same with dig | 18:50 |
| river | dig foo fails dig @custom-dns-server foo works | 18:51 |
| semitones | what did you try so far to tell ubuntu to use that custom server? | 18:51 |
| river | semitones: I set it inside settings network wires ip4 DNS option. that didn't work so I added DNS=<ip> in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf and did sudo service systemd-resolved restart. but host is still not using it | 18:53 |
| semitones | yeah that's all I would know how to do. Throw in a restart and a dns test to try and find out what DNS it is using | 18:56 |
| semitones | https://dnsleak.com/ | 18:56 |
| rfm | river, is /etc/resolv.conf still a symlink to /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf? | 18:57 |
| semitones | traceroute might be useful | 18:57 |
| river | yes it's a symlink | 18:57 |
| river | the stub conf file does not exist | 18:58 |
| river | oh wait it does | 18:58 |
| river | but it's a relative path | 18:58 |
| rfm | yes, that's normal | 19:00 |
| rfm | river, what does "resolvectl" say? | 19:01 |
| river | thanks rfm | 19:02 |
| Johne90 | I'm having issues disabling apparmor on a fresh install. I've followed the commands here. aa-status still shows module loaded. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor | 19:18 |
| leftyfb | Johne90: why would you want to disable apparmor? | 19:20 |
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| Johne90 | Crowdstrike is requiring it to disable RFM | 19:21 |
| leftyfb | Johne90: what kernel are you running? | 19:24 |
| Johne90 | 5.4.0-91-generic | 19:24 |
| leftyfb | Johne90: is that kernel on the list of supported kernels here? https://falcon.crowdstrike.com/login/?next=%2Fdocumentation%2F20%2Ffalcon-sensor-for-linux#ubuntu-20.04 | 19:26 |
| Johne90 | Yes it is | 19:26 |
| Johne90 | Step 1) is OS supported 2) is kernel supported, and now support is telling me to disable aa but I can't seem to get it disabled. | 19:27 |
| leftyfb | it's pretty concerning a security company would recommend disabling security measures to get their software to work | 19:29 |
| leftyfb | Johne90: sorry, I'm not familiar with how to properly disable apparmor, nor would I suggest doing so | 19:29 |
| Johne90 | Thats a fundamental philosophy I have issues with as well. Outdated kernels to maintain support etc | 19:30 |
| Johne90 | Thanks for hearing me out tho | 19:31 |
| Johne90 | Essentially they want to be the only line of defense, no matter what vulnerabilities exist. they claim apparmor/selinux get in the way of their product. | 19:34 |
| leftyfb | Johne90: they should be focusing on working WITH apparmor and SElinux | 19:35 |
| Johne90 | Preach! | 19:35 |
| rfm | Johne90, looks like even if apparmor.service is disabled, snapd is still loading it. does aa-status show any profiles loaded and enforced that are *not* snaps? If not, then maybe that's enough to satisfy Crowdstrike. | 19:41 |
| gordonjcp | evening | 19:45 |
| gordonjcp | Is it possible to fix Ubuntu 21.10's desktop so that icons work properly again? | 19:46 |
| Johne90 | They're all snaps. I think I'm gonna have to go back to their support and make them earn their salaries | 19:46 |
| leftyfb | gordonjcp: https://fostips.com/app-icons-to-desktop-ubuntu-21-04/ | 19:49 |
| gordonjcp | leftyfb: that kind of works but you can no longer drag and drop | 20:08 |
| Maik | blame the Gnome devs for taking that away | 20:11 |
| ogra | just as a sidenote: to disable apparmor properly yu put "apparmor=0" on your kernel cmdline ... that turns it off in the kernel, the userspace tools shuld detect it and not start (but this means to open a can of worms, since a lot of ubuntu security is nowadays designed around AA) | 20:19 |
| ogra | gordonjcp, https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/2087/desktop-icons-ng-ding/ ... that one adds drag n drop | 20:28 |
| taholmes160 | Hi Folks: When I first set up my ubuntu system, and was using the local screen, keyboard and mouse, the terminal window and nautilus both had really good looking themes on them. The machine is intended to run headless over the local area network and is accessed via RDC -- for some reason, the themes have vanished when I connect via RDC and the current ones are really ugly | 21:10 |
| taholmes160 | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/946580367052255252/946580476007686164/unknown.png | 21:10 |
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| kristian_on_linu | erm ... installing Ubuntu for a laptop noob and thinking about what desktop would be best? | 21:24 |
| leftyfb | kristian_on_linu: stick with the default. If it doesn't fit your needs, then look into changing it | 21:25 |
| kristian_on_linu | leftyfb, yeah ... that approach makes sense | 21:25 |
| cryptikulous | i noticed my host make connections to ntp.ubuntu.com.home and ntp.ubuntu.com throught DNS queries every 3-4 seconds, how can i stop that from happening? | 21:55 |
| sarnold | configure your ntp client to use a different ntp server? | 21:57 |
| leftyfb | cryptikulous: is this a server or desktop? | 21:57 |
| cryptikulous | leftyfb: desktop | 21:58 |
| leftyfb | cryptikulous: https://linuxconfig.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/03-how-to-sync-time-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux.png | 21:59 |
| leftyfb | cryptikulous: you can disable it there. Though I wouldn't recommend it | 21:59 |
| leftyfb | cryptikulous: it's keeping your clock in sync | 21:59 |
| gordonjcp | ogra: is this going to be fixed in maybe 22.04? | 22:00 |
| cryptikulous | i know it is keeping my clock tight but i hate that dns traffic stating my actual OS | 22:00 |
| ogra | gordonjcp, yeah, i think so ... there has been some work by the desktop team in that area | 22:01 |
| leftyfb | cryptikulous: why? | 22:01 |
| jhutchins | 3-4 seconds seems like an unreasonable interval after initial sync. I know a number of site admins that would block that kind of traffic. | 22:02 |
| cryptikulous | thats what i think too.. | 22:02 |
| leftyfb | jhutchins: I don't disagree but they said their main concern is their public DNS server being made aware of what OS they're running. Not sure why that is a concern | 22:03 |
| gordonjcp | ogra: just seems like a deeply weird regression to allow into a "finished" build | 22:04 |
| Ravage | and my DNS logs show a query to ntp.ubuntu.com about every 15 minutes | 22:04 |
| ogra | gordonjcp, well, if ubuntu would have gone with the gnome default (which was introduced really late in the dev cycle) yu wouldnt have any icons at all ... it is a compromise | 22:05 |
| gordonjcp | ogra: tbh they shouldn't have scrapped Unity :-/ | 22:05 |
| gordonjcp | cryptikulous: how is that revealing your OS? | 22:05 |
| ogra | gordonjcp, well, there wasnt enough manpower ... | 22:06 |
| gordonjcp | ogra: yeah yeah, and I should just ask for my money back if I don't like it :-D | 22:06 |
| ogra | heh, thats not what i meant 🙂 | 22:06 |
| cryptikulous | gordonjcp: the packets info does state it | 22:07 |
| Ravage | cryptikulous: so make this easy: change the ntp server to something you host yourself, or an IP address. or disable the ntp service. that are your choices | 22:08 |
| cryptikulous | even tho i use manual time and date sync im still getting ntp throught dns | 22:08 |
| gordonjcp | cryptikulous: where? | 22:08 |
| leftyfb | cryptikulous: DNS queries do not include the client OS | 22:09 |
| gordonjcp | cryptikulous: and also, why do you care? | 22:09 |
| * ogra shamelessly points to https😕/snapcraft.i👋htpdate-daemon ... | 22:11 | |
| ogra | hah | 22:11 |
| ogra | emoji plugins ... pfft | 22:11 |
| leftyfb | ogra: that would still cause DNS queries which are apparently leaking critical data like the OS :/ | 22:11 |
| gordonjcp | ogra: I was super disappointed that I couldn't use emoji in Python identifiers | 22:12 |
| ogra | leftyfb, well, you could call it from a script that uses random websites ... 😄 | 22:12 |
| leftyfb | lol | 22:13 |
| gordonjcp | cryptikulous: so, updating every few seconds doesn't sound right so that's some sort of a problem, but I don't get why you think it reveals your OS and I also don't get why revealing your OS is any kind of a problem. | 22:20 |
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| jhutchins | gordonjcp: The actual NTP implementation can do a "burst" query at start-up, but once it's sync'ed with a server it's a longer interval. | 22:56 |
| adderall | ... | 23:18 |
| robot56 | hi | 23:33 |
| robot56 | remember the old startup sound of ubuntu in ubuntu 6.10-1804 | 23:33 |
| robot56 | *18.04 | 23:33 |
| Chunkyz | robot56: this is a support channel. for discussion, #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss | 23:34 |
| Maik | el: ban evading by yrdsb a.k.a. andrew2 and now robot56. You banned him the last time. | 23:36 |
| Chunkyz | Maik: I wasn't 100% sure it was him, thanks for saying. | 23:39 |
| Maik | no problem | 23:39 |
| jr_web_dev | hello | 23:41 |
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