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lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Can I write directly here to get support?14:15
lubot[telegram] <N0um3n0> Yes (re @UnrealNinjaMark: Can I write directly here to get support?)14:16
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Thanks. I have Lubuntu 20.04 and I installed, some time ago, through Discovery Software Center, the one preinstalled in Lubuntu, the Ubuntu Studio Installer. Then, I enabled backport PPA through the program and I tried to install some of the packages offered by the Installer. The installed stuck at installing, and I couldn't boot any software, until the screen gone black. Now the system doesn't boot anymore, and it's the second time14:21
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> The first time, I easily resolved the issue by reinstalling the OS, but I wanted to know if there is a way to resolve the issue without reinstalling the OS14:21
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Lubuntu doesn't have an active backport PPA so I am not sure what you enabled there. I would avoid that unless there is something you know you need from that. There is likely a way to fix the issue but we would need more information.14:27
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> The PPA I was talking about was the one the Ubuntu Studio Installer activates (re @kc2bez: Lubuntu doesn't have an active backport PPA so I am not sure what you enabled there. I would avoid that unless there is something you know you need from that. There is likely a way to fix the issue but we would need more information.)14:28
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> That I tried to disable through ppa-purge14:28
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Anyway, what other information could I give?14:29
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> If your system was able to get to the CLI it did boot, just not into the graphical environment.14:30
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> A thing I noticed, when I power off the system, the command line report an I/O error on dev/SDA before powering off14:30
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Oh, that sounds like a drive issue.14:31
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> What is CLI? I could see the loading screen of Lubuntu, and I saw the command line of booting with pressing ESC (re @kc2bez: If your system was able to get to the CLI it did boot, just not into the graphical environment.)14:31
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Well, it happened even the first time, but I reinstalled the OS and I had no issue (re @kc2bez: Oh, that sounds like a drive issue.)14:31
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> CLI = Command line interface (re @UnrealNinjaMark: What is CLI? I could see the loading screen of Lubuntu, and I saw the command line of booting with pressing ESC)14:31
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Uh, I could see that (re @kc2bez: CLI = Command line interface)14:31
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Right, so that gets us past the bootloader.14:32
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Yeap (re @kc2bez: Right, so that gets us past the bootloader.)14:32
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> What do you have for a video card?14:32
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> The one integrated in my Intel Celeron, an HD Graphics (re @kc2bez: What do you have for a video card?)14:33
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I was saying earlier, the I/O I had the other time error disappeared when I reinstalled Lubuntu, so in theory the disk works well. What could cause this problem?14:33
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> It may still have bad blocks and the reinstall worked around them.14:34
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Should I try an fsck? (re @kc2bez: It may still have bad blocks and the reinstall worked around them.)14:34
lubot[telegram] <N0um3n0> if the updates/installs are not done maybe you should use sudo dpkg --configure -a (re @UnrealNinjaMark: Thanks. I have Lubuntu 20.04 and I installed, some time ago, through Discovery Software Center, the one preinstalled in Lubuntu, the Ubuntu Studio Installer. Then, I enabled backport PPA through the program and I tried to install some of the packages offered by the Installer. The installed stuck at installing, and I couldn't boot any oth14:34
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Uh, I tried that (re @N0um3n0: if the updates/installs are not done maybe you should use sudo dpkg --configure -a)14:35
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> That seems like a good idea. (re @UnrealNinjaMark: Should I try an fsck?)14:35
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> And still my system doesn't boot14:35
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Ok (re @kc2bez: That seems like a good idea.)14:35
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Is this from 20.04 iso or one of the point releases? (re @UnrealNinjaMark: And still my system doesn't boot)14:36
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Just for information, the other time I had a similar problem I tried a manual fsck, that said me the disk was fine. I forced the control and, still, the system didn't boot. Like I said earlier, reinstalling resolved all the problems (re @kc2bez: That seems like a good idea.)14:36
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> The first one (re @kc2bez: Is this from 20.04 iso or one of the point releases?)14:36
lubot[telegram] <N0um3n0> maybe some unfulfilled dependency (re @UnrealNinjaMark: Just for information, the other time I had a similar problem I tried a manual fsck, that said me the disk was fine. I forced the control and, still, the system didn't boot. Like I said earlier, reinstalling resolved all the problems)14:37
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Strange (re @N0um3n0: maybe some unfulfilled dependency)14:38
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Is there a way to reinstall LXQT on Lubuntu?14:38
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Maybe this could resolve the problems14:38
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> If you don't add the PPA does everything work fine?14:38
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Maybe I just accidentally deleted some important packages14:38
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I removed it, and the system still doesn't boot  😅 (re @kc2bez: If you don't add the PPA does everything work fine?)14:39
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Right but you said you reinstalled.14:39
lubot[telegram] <N0um3n0> sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop (re @UnrealNinjaMark: Is there a way to reinstall LXQT on Lubuntu?)14:39
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Well, I'm pretty confused (re @kc2bez: Right but you said you reinstalled.)14:39
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I'll try this! (re @N0um3n0: sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop)14:39
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> A thing. I wanted to do a fsck from recovery mode, but it always fails because it says the system partition is mounted. How could I resolve that?14:41
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Or should I do fsck from live system, using my USB Ke14:41
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> You should do it from a live system.14:41
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> understood (re @kc2bez: You should do it from a live system.)14:41
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> You can't unmount the system you are running from and recovery mode is on your disk.14:42
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Yeap 😅 (re @kc2bez: You can't unmount the system you are running from and recovery mode is on your disk.)14:42
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Another thing. I had a broken package called t1-cyrillic, that the system doesn't want to remove and it gives me a bus error, an error I didn't had while removing other packages. Should I try to reinstall this package, or should I try to remove it in an another way?14:44
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Have you tried apt --fix-broken install ?14:46
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Let me try it14:46
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I've tried the command, and the system still want to try to remove the said package, and I had once again a bus error (re @kc2bez: Have you tried apt --fix-broken install ?)14:48
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I got error status 13514:49
lubot[telegram] <N0um3n0> directly with remove the name of the package, does not delete it? (re @UnrealNinjaMark: I've tried the command, and the system still want to try to remove the said package, and I had once again a bus error)14:51
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> No, it doesn't (re @N0um3n0: directly with remove the name of the package, does not delete it?)14:51
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> It gave me the same error14:51
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Let's try some things, let me know when you are done with each command.14:52
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Understood (re @kc2bez: Let's try some things, let me know when you are done with each command.)14:52
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> sudo dpkg --configure -a14:52
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Done... I guess : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/4b31d3ae/file_3978.jpg14:53
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> yes it is14:53
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Good (re @kc2bez: yes it is)14:53
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> sudo dpkg -l | grep ^..r14:54
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> That arrow symbol... Where should I find it on my keyboard? (re @kc2bez: sudo dpkg -l | grep ^..r)14:54
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I can't change my keyboard language since I'm in recovery mode14:55
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> For me it is shift 614:55
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Never mind14:55
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Found it!14:55
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Dons14:55
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq14:55
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> And it still gives me that bus error. I'll try to do manual fsck with my live USB key and I'll let you know if it works14:57
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> hang on14:57
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> sudo apt clean14:58
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Well, I already booted the live system. I'll try the clean command when I will return on recovery mode (re @kc2bez: sudo apt clean)14:59
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Let me return in recovery mode 😅14:59
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Same result. Maybe this t1-cyrillic is related to some system thing... I don't know15:02
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> sudo apt update15:03
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I already tried it earlier on. I'll try it anyway15:04
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Yes please. The order matters15:04
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Done (re @kc2bez: Yes please. The order matters)15:05
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> sudo apt install -f15:05
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> And it still wants to remove that package...15:05
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> There is a way to just reinstall it?15:05
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> That should reinstall it if it is required.15:06
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Can we see the error?15:06
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I have the system in Italian. Is it a problem? (re @kc2bez: Can we see the error?)15:06
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> It shouldn't be.15:06
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I'm sending the screen15:07
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/a6557c72/file_3979.jpg15:07
lubot[telegram] <N0um3n0> https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=1871690 (re @UnrealNinjaMark: )15:08
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I'm going! (re @N0um3n0: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=1871690)15:08
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I'm trying the commands of the first answer (re @N0um3n0: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=1871690)15:09
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> You will want to substitute the package you are having an issue with.15:10
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> t1-cyrillic15:11
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I'll try this (re @kc2bez: You will want to substitute the package you are having an issue with.)15:11
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I tried the command dpkg -l | grep -v "^ii" as said in the link, and I got this list15:11
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/303fa151/file_3980.jpg15:11
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Oh that isn't good.15:13
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> It also looks like you installed from a point release because you have the HWE kernel.15:14
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Try this.15:15
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Well, and this is strange, because I use Lubuntu 20.04.. maybe it's fault of that Ubuntu Studio Installer I used Into Lubuntu (re @kc2bez: It also looks like you installed from a point release because you have the HWE kernel.)15:16
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> sudo dpkg --purge --force-all t1-cyrillic15:16
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Nothing... same error15:17
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> I would run fsck but from my search it doesn't seem like this is easily recoverable. A reinstall might be easier and faster.15:19
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I try to reinstall the system. Thanks for your help, sir (re @kc2bez: I would run fsck but from my search it doesn't seem like this is easily recoverable. A reinstall might be easier and faster.)15:20
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> 👍15:21
lubot[telegram] <Muhammad_Zakariya> hello,15:37
lubot[telegram] <Muhammad_Zakariya> need help !15:37
lubot[telegram] <Muhammad_Zakariya> I have a acer Aspire 4752 ( i3 2350M ) laptop. and I want to install Linux on my laptop. but I'm totally new in the linux platform. so, which one should be good for the laptop ? help me please 🥺15:37
lubot[telegram] <N0um3n0> Try first looking the lubuntu manual15:49
lubot[telegram] <N0um3n0> https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/15:49
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I just finished to backup some files I needed, and this is the only thing I can do with the installation program 😅 : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/0c0b66ad/file_3982.jpg15:51
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> (And, sometimes, in similar cases partitioning always failed to me) (re @UnrealNinjaMark: )15:51
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> If you still have your disk mounted you need to unmount it before reinstalling.15:52
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Easiest way is to just restart.15:53
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Ok! (re @kc2bez: Easiest way is to just restart.)15:53
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> I recommend using the live iso to become a little familiar before installing. (re @Muhammad_Zakariya: hello,15:54
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> need help !15:54
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> I have a acer Aspire 4752 ( i3 2350M ) laptop. and I want to install Linux on my laptop. but I'm totally new in the linux platform. so, which one should be good for the laptop ? help me please)15:54
tomreynkc2bez: is this a quote? because you are not "totally new in the linux platform"16:02
tomreynoh right it's a quotation from Muhammad16:03
tomreynhard to tell on IRC16:03
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Sorry tomreyn16:03
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> Telegram replies are strange on irc16:04
tomreynhehe, no need to be sorry, it's just a result of the ... imperfect bridge16:04
lubot[telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I successfully reinstalled the system, and now it works (re @kc2bez: Easiest way is to just restart.)16:10
lubot[telegram] <N0um3n0> Perfect16:11
jim_hitekI have downloaded the 21.10 ver of Lubuntu and have tried to install it on 2 newer computers. And it's failed during every try. The Burn of the DVD went perfectly. I don't want to waste another DVD if this is a common issue. What could be the problem?20:19
Maikcan't they boot from usb stick?20:20
lubot[telegram] <teward001> did you verifu the ISO first before burning?20:20
lubot[telegram] <teward001> failed dvd install with the iso usually means a bad ISO20:20
jim_hitekHuh? Why would that be necessary...but no, I didn't.20:21
jim_hitekThe burn program said it went well.20:21
lubot[telegram] <teward001> thats actually an unspoken rule - verify the ISO sums before using the ISO.20:21
lubot[telegram] <teward001> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-verify-ubuntu#1-overview20:22
jim_hitekHow to do that?20:22
Maikverifying the iso is a must, if the checksum doesn't match you could have a corrupt iso20:22
Maikand instead of wasting dvd's use usb sticks :)20:22
lubot[telegram] <teward001> adapt that process for the lubuntu ISOs20:22
jim_hitekUSB sticks don't fit in my DVD pouch very well. Also, they're not as inexpensive as the DVDs and you get a permanent copy for installing on multiple computers.20:23
jim_hitekAnywho, how do I check the checksum?20:24
Maikread the link that was given20:24
lubot[telegram] <kc2bez> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-verify-ubuntu#1-overview20:24
jim_hitekOkay, thanks. 2nd question...20:24
jim_hitekI was trying to install Lubuntu on my backup computer and since the DVD didn't work, I downloaded and installed from the internet.20:25
jim_hitekIt seemed to go well, no error messages. And when I boot, I see it says 21.10 Lubuntu20:26
jim_hitekBUT, the desktop is the exact same as before. How do I get Lubuntu to run?20:26
jim_hitekShould I see a different desktop config?20:27
kc2bez[m]jim_hitek: I don't think I understand your question. What was your previous desktop? 20:28
jim_hitekUsing Mate on Ubuntu 20.04.20:29
kc2bez[m]How exactly did you install Lubuntu over the Internet? 20:30
jim_hitekDunno. I came here to this page, clicked on downloads...hold on...20:31
jim_hitekErr, I don't recall for sure. Lemme go check...BRB.20:32
jim_hitekIt's booting, and the first splash screen after the Grub (which shows Ubuntu) shows Lubuntu, then goes black while it's booting.20:36
jim_hitekThen the pswrd screen shows up...the one I installed, then it just boots to Ubuntu. Was there supposed to be a Lubuntu boot choice somewhere, Like in Grub?20:37
Maikhow did you install lubuntu over the internet....20:38
jim_hitekDunno, just downloaded it and installed it following the install directions.20:38
jim_hitekPS I FOUND IT! 20:39
Maikfrom where20:39
jim_hitekDon't remember from where. And official site though.20:39
jim_hitekAn official site.20:39
Maikyou got to know exactlay what you have done20:39
Maikotherwise we are not able to help you further20:39
Maiksorry, to me it makes no sense at all20:40
Maik'An official site...' WHICH site20:40
jim_hitekI found it so don't need help now. It's booting to Lubuntu now. It was on the pswd page. 20:40
Maikyeah right20:41
jim_hitekOr rather the link to it is there.20:41
jim_hitekAnd it's up and running! Yea!20:41
Maiksorry if i'm being sceptical and don't believe one single thing20:42
jim_hitekSays Lubuntu 20.04 so I'll need to upgrade.20:42
kc2bez[m]Not necessarily 20.04 is an LTS and still supported.20:43
jim_hitekAren't you the suspicious type. Me too. But in this case, what I said is perfectly true, I found it online somewhere, downloaded it, and it installed. And it's now running.20:43
Maikyou said it was Lubuntu 21.1020:43
Maiknow it's 20.04 all of the sudden20:43
jim_hitekI thought it was. Guess not.20:43
jim_hitekI do things fast.20:44
Maiksure...20:44
jim_hitekAnd you're a troll.20:44
Maikhave a nice one and good luck with your install. Hope you enjoy it20:45
Maiknah. i suspect YOU are the troll here20:45
jim_hitekYou would be wrong. I do like the look of the desktop. Pretty nice.20:47
jim_hitekBuh bye.20:47

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