[09:57] <lubot> [telegram] <randomphoenix> /start@GitHubBot r_d76a9ABl0lc
[12:54] <zhangguolin> ？
[12:55] <zhangguolin> who
[14:15] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Can I write directly here to get support?
[14:16] <lubot> [telegram] <N0um3n0> Yes (re @UnrealNinjaMark: Can I write directly here to get support?)
[14:21] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Thanks. I have Lubuntu 20.04 and I installed, some time ago, through Discovery Software Center, the one preinstalled in Lubuntu, the Ubuntu Studio Installer. Then, I enabled backport PPA through the program and I tried to install some of the packages offered by the Installer. The installed stuck at installing, and I couldn't boot any software, until the screen gone black. Now the system doesn't boot anymore, and it's the second time
[14:21] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> The first time, I easily resolved the issue by reinstalling the OS, but I wanted to know if there is a way to resolve the issue without reinstalling the OS
[14:27] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Lubuntu doesn't have an active backport PPA so I am not sure what you enabled there. I would avoid that unless there is something you know you need from that. There is likely a way to fix the issue but we would need more information.
[14:28] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> The PPA I was talking about was the one the Ubuntu Studio Installer activates (re @kc2bez: Lubuntu doesn't have an active backport PPA so I am not sure what you enabled there. I would avoid that unless there is something you know you need from that. There is likely a way to fix the issue but we would need more information.)
[14:28] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> That I tried to disable through ppa-purge
[14:29] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Anyway, what other information could I give?
[14:30] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> If your system was able to get to the CLI it did boot, just not into the graphical environment.
[14:30] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> A thing I noticed, when I power off the system, the command line report an I/O error on dev/SDA before powering off
[14:31] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Oh, that sounds like a drive issue.
[14:31] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> What is CLI? I could see the loading screen of Lubuntu, and I saw the command line of booting with pressing ESC (re @kc2bez: If your system was able to get to the CLI it did boot, just not into the graphical environment.)
[14:31] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Well, it happened even the first time, but I reinstalled the OS and I had no issue (re @kc2bez: Oh, that sounds like a drive issue.)
[14:31] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> CLI = Command line interface (re @UnrealNinjaMark: What is CLI? I could see the loading screen of Lubuntu, and I saw the command line of booting with pressing ESC)
[14:31] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Uh, I could see that (re @kc2bez: CLI = Command line interface)
[14:32] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Right, so that gets us past the bootloader.
[14:32] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Yeap (re @kc2bez: Right, so that gets us past the bootloader.)
[14:32] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> What do you have for a video card?
[14:33] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> The one integrated in my Intel Celeron, an HD Graphics (re @kc2bez: What do you have for a video card?)
[14:33] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I was saying earlier, the I/O I had the other time error disappeared when I reinstalled Lubuntu, so in theory the disk works well. What could cause this problem?
[14:34] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> It may still have bad blocks and the reinstall worked around them.
[14:34] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Should I try an fsck? (re @kc2bez: It may still have bad blocks and the reinstall worked around them.)
[14:34] <lubot> [telegram] <N0um3n0> if the updates/installs are not done maybe you should use sudo dpkg --configure -a (re @UnrealNinjaMark: Thanks. I have Lubuntu 20.04 and I installed, some time ago, through Discovery Software Center, the one preinstalled in Lubuntu, the Ubuntu Studio Installer. Then, I enabled backport PPA through the program and I tried to install some of the packages offered by the Installer. The installed stuck at installing, and I couldn't boot any oth
[14:35] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Uh, I tried that (re @N0um3n0: if the updates/installs are not done maybe you should use sudo dpkg --configure -a)
[14:35] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> That seems like a good idea. (re @UnrealNinjaMark: Should I try an fsck?)
[14:35] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> And still my system doesn't boot
[14:35] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Ok (re @kc2bez: That seems like a good idea.)
[14:36] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Is this from 20.04 iso or one of the point releases? (re @UnrealNinjaMark: And still my system doesn't boot)
[14:36] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Just for information, the other time I had a similar problem I tried a manual fsck, that said me the disk was fine. I forced the control and, still, the system didn't boot. Like I said earlier, reinstalling resolved all the problems (re @kc2bez: That seems like a good idea.)
[14:36] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> The first one (re @kc2bez: Is this from 20.04 iso or one of the point releases?)
[14:37] <lubot> [telegram] <N0um3n0> maybe some unfulfilled dependency (re @UnrealNinjaMark: Just for information, the other time I had a similar problem I tried a manual fsck, that said me the disk was fine. I forced the control and, still, the system didn't boot. Like I said earlier, reinstalling resolved all the problems)
[14:38] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Strange (re @N0um3n0: maybe some unfulfilled dependency)
[14:38] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Is there a way to reinstall LXQT on Lubuntu?
[14:38] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Maybe this could resolve the problems
[14:38] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> If you don't add the PPA does everything work fine?
[14:38] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Maybe I just accidentally deleted some important packages
[14:39] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I removed it, and the system still doesn't boot  😅 (re @kc2bez: If you don't add the PPA does everything work fine?)
[14:39] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Right but you said you reinstalled.
[14:39] <lubot> [telegram] <N0um3n0> sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop (re @UnrealNinjaMark: Is there a way to reinstall LXQT on Lubuntu?)
[14:39] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Well, I'm pretty confused (re @kc2bez: Right but you said you reinstalled.)
[14:39] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I'll try this! (re @N0um3n0: sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop)
[14:41] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> A thing. I wanted to do a fsck from recovery mode, but it always fails because it says the system partition is mounted. How could I resolve that?
[14:41] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Or should I do fsck from live system, using my USB Ke
[14:41] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> You should do it from a live system.
[14:41] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> understood (re @kc2bez: You should do it from a live system.)
[14:42] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> You can't unmount the system you are running from and recovery mode is on your disk.
[14:42] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Yeap 😅 (re @kc2bez: You can't unmount the system you are running from and recovery mode is on your disk.)
[14:44] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Another thing. I had a broken package called t1-cyrillic, that the system doesn't want to remove and it gives me a bus error, an error I didn't had while removing other packages. Should I try to reinstall this package, or should I try to remove it in an another way?
[14:46] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Have you tried apt --fix-broken install ?
[14:46] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Let me try it
[14:48] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I've tried the command, and the system still want to try to remove the said package, and I had once again a bus error (re @kc2bez: Have you tried apt --fix-broken install ?)
[14:49] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I got error status 135
[14:51] <lubot> [telegram] <N0um3n0> directly with remove the name of the package, does not delete it? (re @UnrealNinjaMark: I've tried the command, and the system still want to try to remove the said package, and I had once again a bus error)
[14:51] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> No, it doesn't (re @N0um3n0: directly with remove the name of the package, does not delete it?)
[14:51] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> It gave me the same error
[14:52] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Let's try some things, let me know when you are done with each command.
[14:52] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Understood (re @kc2bez: Let's try some things, let me know when you are done with each command.)
[14:52] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:53] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Done... I guess : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/4b31d3ae/file_3978.jpg
[14:53] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> yes it is
[14:53] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Good (re @kc2bez: yes it is)
[14:54] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> sudo dpkg -l | grep ^..r
[14:54] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> That arrow symbol... Where should I find it on my keyboard? (re @kc2bez: sudo dpkg -l | grep ^..r)
[14:55] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I can't change my keyboard language since I'm in recovery mode
[14:55] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> For me it is shift 6
[14:55] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Never mind
[14:55] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Found it!
[14:55] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Dons
[14:55] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq
[14:57] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> And it still gives me that bus error. I'll try to do manual fsck with my live USB key and I'll let you know if it works
[14:57] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> hang on
[14:58] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> sudo apt clean
[14:59] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Well, I already booted the live system. I'll try the clean command when I will return on recovery mode (re @kc2bez: sudo apt clean)
[14:59] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Let me return in recovery mode 😅
[15:02] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Same result. Maybe this t1-cyrillic is related to some system thing... I don't know
[15:03] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> sudo apt update
[15:04] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I already tried it earlier on. I'll try it anyway
[15:04] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Yes please. The order matters
[15:05] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Done (re @kc2bez: Yes please. The order matters)
[15:05] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> sudo apt install -f
[15:05] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> And it still wants to remove that package...
[15:05] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> There is a way to just reinstall it?
[15:06] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> That should reinstall it if it is required.
[15:06] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Can we see the error?
[15:06] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I have the system in Italian. Is it a problem? (re @kc2bez: Can we see the error?)
[15:06] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> It shouldn't be.
[15:07] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I'm sending the screen
[15:07] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/a6557c72/file_3979.jpg
[15:08] <lubot> [telegram] <N0um3n0> https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=1871690 (re @UnrealNinjaMark: )
[15:08] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I'm going! (re @N0um3n0: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=1871690)
[15:09] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I'm trying the commands of the first answer (re @N0um3n0: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=1871690)
[15:10] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> You will want to substitute the package you are having an issue with.
[15:11] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> t1-cyrillic
[15:11] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I'll try this (re @kc2bez: You will want to substitute the package you are having an issue with.)
[15:11] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I tried the command dpkg -l | grep -v "^ii" as said in the link, and I got this list
[15:11] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/303fa151/file_3980.jpg
[15:13] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Oh that isn't good.
[15:14] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> It also looks like you installed from a point release because you have the HWE kernel.
[15:15] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Try this.
[15:16] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Well, and this is strange, because I use Lubuntu 20.04.. maybe it's fault of that Ubuntu Studio Installer I used Into Lubuntu (re @kc2bez: It also looks like you installed from a point release because you have the HWE kernel.)
[15:16] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> sudo dpkg --purge --force-all t1-cyrillic
[15:17] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Nothing... same error
[15:19] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> I would run fsck but from my search it doesn't seem like this is easily recoverable. A reinstall might be easier and faster.
[15:20] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I try to reinstall the system. Thanks for your help, sir (re @kc2bez: I would run fsck but from my search it doesn't seem like this is easily recoverable. A reinstall might be easier and faster.)
[15:21] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> 👍
[15:37] <lubot> [telegram] <Muhammad_Zakariya> hello,
[15:37] <lubot> [telegram] <Muhammad_Zakariya> need help !
[15:37] <lubot> [telegram] <Muhammad_Zakariya> I have a acer Aspire 4752 ( i3 2350M ) laptop. and I want to install Linux on my laptop. but I'm totally new in the linux platform. so, which one should be good for the laptop ? help me please 🥺
[15:49] <lubot> [telegram] <N0um3n0> Try first looking the lubuntu manual
[15:49] <lubot> [telegram] <N0um3n0> https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/
[15:51] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I just finished to backup some files I needed, and this is the only thing I can do with the installation program 😅 : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/0c0b66ad/file_3982.jpg
[15:51] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> (And, sometimes, in similar cases partitioning always failed to me) (re @UnrealNinjaMark: )
[15:52] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> If you still have your disk mounted you need to unmount it before reinstalling.
[15:53] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Easiest way is to just restart.
[15:53] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> Ok! (re @kc2bez: Easiest way is to just restart.)
[15:54] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> I recommend using the live iso to become a little familiar before installing. (re @Muhammad_Zakariya: hello,
[15:54] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> need help !
[15:54] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> I have a acer Aspire 4752 ( i3 2350M ) laptop. and I want to install Linux on my laptop. but I'm totally new in the linux platform. so, which one should be good for the laptop ? help me please)
[16:02] <tomreyn> kc2bez: is this a quote? because you are not "totally new in the linux platform"
[16:03] <tomreyn> oh right it's a quotation from Muhammad
[16:03] <tomreyn> hard to tell on IRC
[16:03] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Sorry tomreyn
[16:04] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Telegram replies are strange on irc
[16:04] <tomreyn> hehe, no need to be sorry, it's just a result of the ... imperfect bridge
[16:10] <lubot> [telegram] <UnrealNinjaMark> I successfully reinstalled the system, and now it works (re @kc2bez: Easiest way is to just restart.)
[16:11] <lubot> [telegram] <N0um3n0> Perfect
[20:19] <jim_hitek> I have downloaded the 21.10 ver of Lubuntu and have tried to install it on 2 newer computers. And it's failed during every try. The Burn of the DVD went perfectly. I don't want to waste another DVD if this is a common issue. What could be the problem?
[20:20] <Maik> can't they boot from usb stick?
[20:20] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> did you verifu the ISO first before burning?
[20:20] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> failed dvd install with the iso usually means a bad ISO
[20:21] <jim_hitek> Huh? Why would that be necessary...but no, I didn't.
[20:21] <jim_hitek> The burn program said it went well.
[20:21] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> thats actually an unspoken rule - verify the ISO sums before using the ISO.
[20:22] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-verify-ubuntu#1-overview
[20:22] <jim_hitek> How to do that?
[20:22] <Maik> verifying the iso is a must, if the checksum doesn't match you could have a corrupt iso
[20:22] <Maik> and instead of wasting dvd's use usb sticks :)
[20:22] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> adapt that process for the lubuntu ISOs
[20:23] <jim_hitek> USB sticks don't fit in my DVD pouch very well. Also, they're not as inexpensive as the DVDs and you get a permanent copy for installing on multiple computers.
[20:24] <jim_hitek> Anywho, how do I check the checksum?
[20:24] <Maik> read the link that was given
[20:24] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-verify-ubuntu#1-overview
[20:24] <jim_hitek> Okay, thanks. 2nd question...
[20:25] <jim_hitek> I was trying to install Lubuntu on my backup computer and since the DVD didn't work, I downloaded and installed from the internet.
[20:26] <jim_hitek> It seemed to go well, no error messages. And when I boot, I see it says 21.10 Lubuntu
[20:26] <jim_hitek> BUT, the desktop is the exact same as before. How do I get Lubuntu to run?
[20:27] <jim_hitek> Should I see a different desktop config?
[20:28] <kc2bez[m]> jim_hitek: I don't think I understand your question. What was your previous desktop? 
[20:29] <jim_hitek> Using Mate on Ubuntu 20.04.
[20:30] <kc2bez[m]> How exactly did you install Lubuntu over the Internet? 
[20:31] <jim_hitek> Dunno. I came here to this page, clicked on downloads...hold on...
[20:32] <jim_hitek> Err, I don't recall for sure. Lemme go check...BRB.
[20:36] <jim_hitek> It's booting, and the first splash screen after the Grub (which shows Ubuntu) shows Lubuntu, then goes black while it's booting.
[20:37] <jim_hitek> Then the pswrd screen shows up...the one I installed, then it just boots to Ubuntu. Was there supposed to be a Lubuntu boot choice somewhere, Like in Grub?
[20:38] <Maik> how did you install lubuntu over the internet....
[20:38] <jim_hitek> Dunno, just downloaded it and installed it following the install directions.
[20:39] <jim_hitek> PS I FOUND IT! 
[20:39] <Maik> from where
[20:39] <jim_hitek> Don't remember from where. And official site though.
[20:39] <jim_hitek> An official site.
[20:39] <Maik> you got to know exactlay what you have done
[20:39] <Maik> otherwise we are not able to help you further
[20:40] <Maik> sorry, to me it makes no sense at all
[20:40] <Maik> 'An official site...' WHICH site
[20:40] <jim_hitek> I found it so don't need help now. It's booting to Lubuntu now. It was on the pswd page. 
[20:41] <Maik> yeah right
[20:41] <jim_hitek> Or rather the link to it is there.
[20:41] <jim_hitek> And it's up and running! Yea!
[20:42] <Maik> sorry if i'm being sceptical and don't believe one single thing
[20:42] <jim_hitek> Says Lubuntu 20.04 so I'll need to upgrade.
[20:43] <kc2bez[m]> Not necessarily 20.04 is an LTS and still supported.
[20:43] <jim_hitek> Aren't you the suspicious type. Me too. But in this case, what I said is perfectly true, I found it online somewhere, downloaded it, and it installed. And it's now running.
[20:43] <Maik> you said it was Lubuntu 21.10
[20:43] <Maik> now it's 20.04 all of the sudden
[20:43] <jim_hitek> I thought it was. Guess not.
[20:44] <jim_hitek> I do things fast.
[20:44] <Maik> sure...
[20:44] <jim_hitek> And you're a troll.
[20:45] <Maik> have a nice one and good luck with your install. Hope you enjoy it
[20:45] <Maik> nah. i suspect YOU are the troll here
[20:47] <jim_hitek> You would be wrong. I do like the look of the desktop. Pretty nice.
[20:47] <jim_hitek> Buh bye.