[02:22] <mojtaba> .
[02:59] <webchat77> hello, i have some issues and havent find any solution online , do ubuntu have a help channel by any chance^
[02:59] <tomreyn> you are in it
[02:59] <teear> Yeah
[03:00] <teear> You need to go there
[03:03] <webchat77> oh nice, so here is my problem , yesterday i backed up all my config files on my cloud and did a fresh install , when i downloaded them back to get some of my old config back i have been able to extract them but they are "locked" aparently i dont have the permission to access them , i dont have the "rights" and permission is denied , those are rofi
[03:03] <webchat77> polybar and theme files and the likes
[03:04] <webchat77> i cant really figure out how to get them back and its a bit infuriating since it took me months to build them hehe
[03:04] <webchat77> any help would be very apreciated
[03:05] <webchat77> sorry for my english its not my mother thongue
[03:07] <webchat77> as an example i have a startpage that i use for brave browser , the index.html is extracted so the other related files but there is a orange lock on them , if i try to load it in the browser it says access denied
[03:09] <webchat77> its like if the files "belongs" to my previous install and cant be read on my new install since "i am not" the same root user
[03:13] <rfm> webchat77, that can happen, depending on exactly how you did the backup and restore.  You mention you can't access them in the browser.  Are these file: URLs or are you running a local webserver?
[03:13] <jhutchins> Time to hit the command line.
[03:14] <jhutchins> A wild guess says that the user who created the files is not the user who restored them, and there is an ownership issue.
[03:14] <jhutchins> webchat77: Do you have root access to your cloud system?
[03:14] <JoeBk> chown would fix ownership
[03:15] <webchat77> well for the startpage exemple the index and related files just sit in a folder called "my_startpage" in home/,config
[03:15] <webchat77> i literally drag and dropped the folder in protondrive , do a fresh install , and downloaded them back
[03:15] <jhutchins> webchat77: Examine the ownership of the files and directories.
[03:15] <webchat77> i just set the index and my homepage in my browser xd
[03:15] <webchat77> as my*
[03:16] <jhutchins> webchat77: Linux systems do not actually identify users by name, but index the corresponding number against a local list.  The name on one system may not match the same name on another.
[03:16] <webchat77> i have the same issue with all config file i >backed up> like rc.lua rofi.config etc
[03:17] <webchat77> heum
[03:19] <webchat77> if i right click properties on any file its greyd out and say owner root group root security context unknow , you are not the owner you cannot change the permission
[03:19] <webchat77> idk if it helps ..
[03:19] <webchat77> i will read on chom command joe mentioned
[03:19] <JoeBk> do you have root access to the system?
[03:19] <webchat77> yes
[03:20] <webchat77> i mean there is that sudo thing hehe
[03:20] <JoeBk> go into the root account and change ownership.
[03:20] <JoeBk> sudo works
[03:21] <JoeBk> use the chown command
[03:22] <webchat77> do i have to change permission on the folder only or all the files in them ?
[03:22] <webchat77> because they are all root read only etc
[03:23] <webchat77> i mean all the files in every folder are in the same state
[03:23] <webchat77> my configs folders i mean , not the rest of the /home
[03:23] <jhutchins> webchat77: We should really ask you to learn this yourself, because there's a lot more with it you need to know, but sudo chown -R <user>:<group> <target> is what you're looking for.  Understand that if you do that in the wrong place, you can wreck your system.
[03:24] <webchat77> i will go and read everything there is to know about this , thanks for showing me where to look for
[03:24] <jhutchins> Linux permissions and ownership is what you're looking for.
[03:27] <webchat77> is there anything i could do to avoid this situation in the future , i plan on backing up configs and formating quite often in the weeks to come , as i am actually learning and may eventually mess up my install, i often see peoples backing up configs on github? may it be a better solution for my need?
[03:29] <jhutchins> webchat77: What are you using for backup & for restore?
[03:31] <webchat77> well in fact i just save a copy of the config files in proton drive ( its a web cloud like dropbox )
[03:31] <webchat77> i dont use any backup and restore program for now as i dont know how to use them yet
[03:32] <webchat77> im quite new to linux
[03:32] <jhutchins> webchat77: Once you are comfortable with the chown command, and have maybe explored why the user ID numbers were different, it's trivial to just do that each time, as long as the ownership is consistent (as long as the whole file tree is the same).
[03:33] <jhutchins> webchat77: We were all new some time.
[03:45] <webchat77> i managed to solve my issue! Thanks for the help! Now im gonna read a little bit more on this command because i can see how usefull it can be hehe
[03:45] <JoeBk> type man chown
[04:25] <earthling__> should I get involved in local ubuntu groups?
[04:25] <earthling__> lugs?
[04:25] <earthling__> back to normal as pandemic winds down?
[04:27] <JoeBk> earthling__, Do you even have a local Ubuntu group?
[04:28] <earthling__> dunno, I'm in Florida,USA
[04:28] <earthling__> vaguely recall something many years ago
[04:28] <earthling__> in my state
[04:28] <earthling__> in your area?
[04:29] <JoeBk> The local group here has a chat channel, but it has been dead for a long time.
[04:29] <JoeBk> I'm on Philadelphia, PA
[04:30] <JoeBk> in
[04:31] <earthling__> I'm guessing NYC or Boston has many
[04:31] <earthling__> I should move to a cool city
[04:31] <JoeBk> search for a channel, they may have one.
[04:32] <earthling__> good idea
[04:33] <JoeBk> they may have a website too.  google it.
[04:34] <earthling__> btw philly has one on meetup.com
[04:35] <earthling__> though RMS hates meetup
[04:35] <earthling__> ehh looks like florida has ancient groups
[04:36] <earthling__> I don't like google that much
[04:37] <earthling__> prefer duckduckgo
[04:53] <JoeBk> earthling__, I should use duckduckgo more.
[04:53] <JoeBk> I should change the default search engine.
[04:57] <matsaman> much better default than Google, although duckduckgo is still a for-profit company and could go the same route whenever they want
[07:18] <rickbit-21> halo
[07:18] <luna> hi
[07:41] <mhe> hi all-i have a ssd 120G total i'd like two partitions made from the disk one that i can install Ubuntu on and another that will auto mount as a storage drive(partition2) how do i need to partition my disk will format it create an new partition table and two/three partitions one for os one for the storage drive if need be others for grub/swap/boot. can anyone tell me what i need eg primary extended swap os am a little unsure
[07:42] <mhe> that didnt work
[07:43] <mhe> can anyone help me re what my sdd should look like if i would like a partition for os, another for storage; what do i need for grub/bootpartition size and format; what do i need for swap (have 16Gram) 120G total size of my sdd
[07:46] <mhe> i was thinking 30G for Ubuntu ext4, ? for swap, ? for boot/grub/partition, ? the rest for the "storage partition" all ext4 yes no?
[07:47] <BASHitup> I don't know, but whatever it is you do, I recommend using zram instead of traditional swap
[07:47] <BASHitup> ... and I'm off to bed on that note. Read about zram
[07:48] <BASHitup> ... you'll have to set up zram after the install.
[07:48] <mhe> cheers
[07:49] <JoeBk> mhe, with 16G of ram you shouldn't much swap if any at all.  I have 16G and swap is never used.
[07:51] <mhe> yeah tbh i dont have the need for it either but i thought i'd see if i could notice any difference by allocating in the next clean install given i'll probably break it a few times b4 i am content
[07:51] <JoeBk> I just looked actially, I'm using 279 MB for swap. I don't know why it's using so much.
[07:51] <mhe> whats using it
[07:51] <mhe> htop
[07:52] <JoeBk> I dunno
[07:52] <mhe> can you see it with that
[07:52] <JoeBk> htop
[07:52] <JoeBk> oops
[07:54] <JoeBk> I don't see it.
[07:55] <JoeBk> htop shows it being use but I don't see what is using it.
[07:55] <mhe> lol blind leading the blind but did you run as sudo (warning not sure you should run it as sudo but wondering if it will be accurate without)
[07:57] <JoeBk> I ran it again root. still do see it.
[07:59] <JoeBk> I know the system runs fine without swap.
[08:00] <mhe> yeah
[08:00] <JoeBk> I search said I should run smem
[08:01] <mhe> had you heard about zram (i'd not)
[08:01] <JoeBk> I have no clue what zram is.
[08:02] <mhe> how many partitions do i need if i want to install os (can i just make two partitions of ext4 or do i need another for grub)
[08:02] <JoeBk> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zram
[08:03] <mhe> yeah had a read very cool will def be implementing
[08:03] <JoeBk> I never create partitons.  I let the system do it when installing.
[08:03] <alkisg> mhe: if you're installing under UEFI, you'll need one ESP partition of e.g. 1 GB. Otherwise you can use a single partition for everything else, to avoid frequent writes at the same place
[08:03] <mhe> thing is i want a storage partition
[08:03] <alkisg> Yeah let the installer do things automatically you don't need to get clever...
[08:03] <mhe> no its legacy bios
[08:03] <alkisg> What do you mean by "storage", is it the same as "/home" for you?
[08:04] <alkisg> You could e.g. reserve 50 GB for /, and the rest for /home
[08:04] <mhe> i'd like say a 50G partition of ext4 that i can store my files in regardless of whether i nuke the OS partition
[08:04] <JoeBk> why bother doing that?
[08:04] <alkisg> Note that you can reinstall without clearing /home
[08:05] <alkisg> You don't need a separate partition in order to be able to reinstall
[08:05] <alkisg> But anyway sure go for 50GB /, and 70GB /home (i.e. your "storage")
[08:05] <JoeBk> I just throw everything on one big partition.
[08:07] <mhe> sorry kids distracted me
[08:08] <mhe> do i need a partition of say 2MB or something small for grub or some boot time files?
[08:08] <JoeBk> mhe, how big is your drive?
[08:08] <alkisg> No
[08:08] <mhe> 120G
[08:08] <mhe> so id like the os the home the storage partition and if i need another please let me know
[08:08] <JoeBk> I never use anything smaller than 1TB.  hard drives are cheap nowadays.
[08:09] <mhe> rofl
[08:09] <mhe> =) no choice at present
[08:10] <alkisg> mhe: why 3 partitions? Why isn't /home the same as storage?
[08:11] <JoeBk> a 1TB hgst drive is 50USD
[08:11] <mhe> it can be tbh i dont care what i do care about is finding out what format and the number of partitions i need to make myself manually. I feel like i might need a small partition for grub is this wrong
[08:11] <mhe> good point actually
[08:12] <ducasse> mhe: you need an efi partition if you boot in uefi mode
[08:12] <mhe> i dont its bios
[08:12] <JoeBk> the installer makes the efi partition.
[08:12] <mhe> do i need anything special for bios
[08:12] <alkisg> No
[08:13] <JoeBk> you said you do bios boot?
[08:13] <JoeBk> My system won't do a bios boot and I hate UEFI.
[08:14] <mhe> so two ext4 partions will be sweet?  mount point is "/" for th "Os" & "/home" for the "home dir" ??
[08:14] <alkisg> Yes
[08:15] <mhe> thank you
[08:15] <mhe> JoeBk, yes that correct
[08:15] <mhe> *that
[08:15] <mhe> *that's
[08:15] <JoeBk> I have a 512MiB fat32 partition labeled /boot/efi
[08:16] <JoeBk> the rest is ext4
[08:16] <mhe> ima reboot n repartion homies until a little later ciao =) thanks for your help
[08:17] <mhe> yeah JoeBk but dont you run UEFI on your box. I run bios on my box.
[08:17] <JoeBk> I don't see the point partitioning.
[08:18] <JoeBk> mhe is that a laptop or a real computer?
[08:18] <mhe> i like to break my OS frequently, and given this i'd like to be able to reflash it easily
[08:18] <mhe> old pc
[08:18] <JoeBk> oh
[08:18] <JoeBk> you need to buy a hard drive.  better would be an SSD.
[08:19] <mhe> i need to buy an entire pc man but the price of chips n every thing else is bs atm (no value in the prices)
[08:20] <mhe> so ima hold out until i dont know we find some minerals on the moon and war accross the globe ends
[08:20] <mhe> i'll be waiting a few epochs i know
[09:15] <prestocaso[m]> hey everyone
[09:25] <prestocaso[m]> Is this the official Ubuntu IRC chat?
[09:26] <JoeBk> this is the support chanel
[09:28] <prestocaso[m]> Ok thanks I am connecting thru a Matrix connection thru Element and wasn't sure
[12:19] <ulgen> hi
[12:22] <wez> hi
[12:23] <ulgen> how are you
[12:25] <wez> OK. Trying to put the lil man to sleep
[12:25] <wez> He turn 2 in 35 mins
[12:27] <ulgen> wtf
[12:27] <wez> ulgen: ?
[12:29] <ulgen> why is no one talking
[12:30] <wez> I'm talking, I'm some one
[12:30] <wez> It's probably a timezone thing
[12:31] <ulgen> where are the others
[12:33] <wez> ulgen: Asleep
[12:33] <wez> Or raving
[12:33] <wez> It's 23:33 on a Sunday here
[12:35] <ulgen> here at 15:00
[12:35] <wez> oh nice
[12:36] <ulgen> yes
[13:23] <hey_bloke> well im stuck couldn't get my install to boot when i tried to install with multi partitions one for / one for /home
[13:24] <hey_bloke> any ideas ppl i have an old pc with bios so tried making an efi and a reserved for boot partition plus two more each primary (gpt)
[13:26] <hey_bloke> so far as i can tell i dont need an efi partition-thats only for uefi which i dont have so i should only need one partition for "reserved for bios-assume this is where bootloader is installed, but how big 1MB or 500MB?"
[13:28] <hey_bloke> and then i should have two ext4 partitons one primary and one extended, the former housing "/" and the latter /home. is this correct?
[13:35] <alkisg> hey_bloke: for BIOS, you only need a single / partition. If you want to use a separate home, then OK you can use 2 partitions
[13:35] <alkisg> You don't need a separate smaller partition for anything
[13:37] <hey_bloke> so if i make one ext4 primary and one ext4 extended and install onto / and /home im good to go in theory even with bios?
[13:37] <hey_bloke> sorry, install onto "/"
[13:38] <alkisg> You're good to go ONLY with BIOS. While if you had UEFI, you'd need an ESP partition
[13:38] <hey_bloke> primary being the os and extended being the /home
[13:38] <alkisg> (a fat32 partition to host the grub.efi binaries etc)
[13:38] <hey_bloke> how big
[13:38] <alkisg> Sure, either two primaries or one primary and one extended is fine
[13:38] <hey_bloke> fat32
[13:38] <alkisg> You don't have UEFI
[13:39] <hey_bloke> no i dont
[13:39] <alkisg> So you don't need it
[13:40] <hey_bloke> but when i look at what partitions are there using the installer it has made an efi system partition so im confused
[13:40] <alkisg> Didn't you say you created these manually?
[13:42] <hey_bloke> guided installation with seems to have three partitions one is 1MB another is 513MB fat32 and the third is ext4
[13:42] <alkisg> hey_bloke: what's the output of `sudo fdisk -l | nc termbin.com 9999`
[13:42] <alkisg> If you partitioned your disk using GPT when you're on BIOS, you might confuse the installer
[13:43] <hey_bloke> i have done that
[13:44] <hey_bloke> so re that confusion if i revert to the old format ms mbr or whatever will it fix that installer confusion
[13:46] <alkisg> Or use manual partitioning, since you already know what you want to do
[13:46] <hey_bloke> what you mean like Gparted or fdisk
[13:47] <hey_bloke> ?
[13:47] <alkisg> Or the installer itself, it has a "something else" option that lets you do manual formatting
[13:48] <alkisg> E.g. https://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation
[13:51] <hey_bloke> thank you thats perfect
[13:51] <hey_bloke> =)
[14:13] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:32] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Invite me to #programming
[14:32] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> asked this on #web
[14:33] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> nobody is there, stop bullying me irc
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> Ronalds_Mazitis_: this is also not the channel to vent such
[14:34] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> you or me or ubuntu
[14:35] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I seriously gon flip shit if yall keep stupidity online
[14:35] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> it's not my fault \
[15:47] <Protocol2> Stupid question, how do I add a custom repository again?
[15:48] <KBar> Protocol2: `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name`
[15:49] <Protocol2> Aaah thanks! I thought I copied it correctly but I missed a dash. Thanks!
[15:54] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ThePendulum
[15:54] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> invite me to #programming
[15:54] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> i WANT TO PROGRAM UBUNTU
[15:54] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> libera chat
[15:57] <tomreyn> Ronalds_Mazitis_: please stop, this is not the topic of this channel, #ubuntu. final warning.
[15:57] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I want to program ubuntu
[15:57] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> final warning
[15:57] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> this is topic about #ubuntu
[15:57] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> stop #lies
[15:57] <KBar> Ronalds_Mazitis_: join #ubuntu-dev
[15:57] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> there is only me there
[15:58] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> stop #lies again
[15:59] <KBar> tomreyn: thanks
[16:33] <Savage> hello there... I am a new linux user who still prefers the windows UI and i was wondering what customisation settings i could use to get as close to a windows look possible
[16:33] <Savage> im running linux mate by the way
[16:35] <jhutchins> Savage: There are a lot of ways to approach that, but you might consider learning what kinds of customizations and even defaults are available in Linux, finding out what you can do with it.
[16:35] <jhutchins> Savage: In other words, rather than finding ways to make it look and work like Windows, find out how to make it work for you.
[16:36] <jhutchins> Savage: What particular Windows features are you looking for?
[16:36] <Savage> ooh i see
[16:36] <Savage> that would be a more reasonable approach i suppose
[16:36] <Savage> thanks!
[17:10] <webchat83> good day
[17:12] <jhutchins> wez: Glad to hear it.
[17:14] <jhutchins> Hmmm... not so good that he stayed on line.
[17:16] <frost-core> so
[17:16] <frost-core> how do i know if i run uefi or efi?
[17:16] <frost-core> or are they just, THE same thing
[17:19] <jhutchins> frost-core: Strictly speaking, efi is a sub-set of uefi, but they're really the same thing, and nobody's careful about usage.
[17:20] <frost-core> i just want to see if there are any limitations with efi
[17:20] <frost-core> i currently run efi here
[17:20] <jhutchins> frost-core: "U" is for "universal", applied when the hardware it was designed for was expanded.
[17:20] <frost-core> also, i see that uefi has a nice gui
[17:20] <jhutchins> frost-core: It's pretty unlikely that you run efi on a system that's less than three racks.
[17:20] <frost-core> but efi does not
[17:20] <jhutchins> frost-core: The GUI is not standard.
[17:21] <jhutchins> frost-core: I'll bet that there are several thousand pages documenting the whole thing.
[17:21] <jhutchins> !efi
[17:29] <Maik> frost-core: you said you're on Arch, then why not ask there or over at #linux for general linux questions? You know this is a Ubuntu support channel
[17:29] <frost-core> Maik : this is my other pc
[17:30] <frost-core> i am now using it as normal
[17:30] <frost-core> its fine
[17:30] <Maik> you never mentioned having another PC.... but ok
[17:34] <JoeBk> I was just looing at the install stuff for ubuntu on the web.  I think they need to update the procedure for creating the flash drive to include Ventoy which is a much better way to create the bootable install drive.
[17:34] <JoeBk> looking*
[17:35] <jhutchins> JoeBk: You could create a page that lists tools to create bootable flash drives, with links to each and a brief description of what each one offers.
[17:36] <jhutchins> JoeBk: That page could then be linked to the install instructions, and could be maintained independently.
[18:19] <JoeBk> jhutchins, I don't do web stuff.  If I did I would get on it.
[18:21] <jhutchins> No reason not to take notes and poste them on blogger.com.
[18:22] <jhutchins> This stuff only works if everybody pitches in.
[18:55] <ednash> I am on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and I want to switch to Ubuntu 21.10 _Minimal_
[18:56] <ednash> Can I do that without having to reformat and fresh install?
[18:56] <Maik> nope, at least not Minimal
[18:56] <ednash> ok
[18:57] <Maik> ednash: and why switch from LTS to non-LTS?
[18:57] <ednash> I found a few old packages
[18:57] <Maik> the next LTS release is around the corner, April 21st
[18:57] <ednash> Actually that's a good question
[18:57] <ednash> What gets updated if I stay on an LTS?
[18:57] <Maik> so i'd wait until then
[18:58] <ednash> Yeah... just read about that. I was trying to get ahead and see how the update process looks like
[18:58] <ednash> As I have today afternoon to tinker with
[18:58] <Maik> about "old" packages..
[18:59] <Maik> !latest
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> ednash could install 21.10 and let the install preserve his /home ?
[18:59] <ednash> So question - will Ubuntu 21.10 have newer packages than 20.04? With a six-months cycle, would it be a lot more fresh?
[18:59] <frost-core> hello guys
[18:59] <frost-core> i am running ubuntu 21.10 here
[18:59] <frost-core> i have an annoying issue
[19:00] <frost-core> when i press a number on my numberpad
[19:00] <Maik> ednash: it will have newer packages than 20.04
[19:00] <frost-core> it does not work
[19:00] <frost-core> but 2
[19:00] <Maik> but it's only supported until July
[19:00] <frost-core> is like down arrow
[19:00] <ednash> frost-core: did you try pressing the Numlock?
[19:00] <frost-core> oh
[19:01] <ednash> Maik: what is the process to upgrade when support ends?
[19:01] <ednash> is it difficult?
[19:01] <frost-core> there is no numlock key
[19:01] <frost-core> its like in delete key
[19:01] <ednash> or rather i should ask, does it require a fresh install?
[19:01] <frost-core> under it says num lock
[19:01] <Maik> how do you mean ednash?
[19:01] <ednash> frost-core: probably you are using a laptop? if it has an "Fn" key (usually lower left) try pressing Fn + Delete
[19:02] <Maik> you can upgrade in place or choose to do a fresh install
[19:02] <enigma9o7[m]> Sounds like a laptop, you probably have a Fn key.
[19:02] <frost-core> i have an fn key
[19:02] <frost-core> also im on laptop
[19:02] <ednash> Maik: oh cool i will update in place then
[19:02] <frost-core> thank you
[19:02] <frost-core> my issue is fixed
[19:02] <ednash> does updating in place just preserve all my packages, or also install new stuff that i don't have / didn't want (like say mail client etc.)
[19:03] <enigma9o7[m]> just updates packages you have, and their dependencies
[19:03] <ednash> nice! then i might just want to do that
[19:03] <ednash> don't see any downsides...?
[19:03] <ednash> except that i will have to upgrade
[19:03] <ednash> more frequently
[19:03] <ednash> (which is probably exactly what i want if i want newest packages)
[19:04] <ednash> e.g. cmake is years old
[19:04] <enigma9o7[m]> We're not that long away from the next LTS either...
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> ednash: snaps, !backports,..
[19:05] <ednash> yeah don't like snap that much. though that's what i'm using
[19:05] <ednash> it crowds lsblk with many loop devices
[19:05] <ednash> !backports
[19:06] <frost-core> also
[19:06] <frost-core> how do i get gestures in lxqt?
[19:06] <frost-core> im running 21.10 as said, and i upgraded
[19:07] <ednash> frost-core: You can use touchegg.
[19:07] <frost-core> ive heard of it
[19:07] <frost-core> but idk how to install it
[19:07] <frost-core> and configure
[19:07] <ednash> I'm reading this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1140108/how-can-i-use-multitouch-gestures-under-lxqt-with-a-touchscreen
[19:07] <ednash> Installation instructions are here: https://github.com/JoseExposito/touchegg
[19:08] <ednash> Specifically for Ubuntu: https://github.com/JoseExposito/touchegg#ubuntu-debian-and-derivatives
[19:08] <ednash> You need to just type those 3 lines
[19:08] <ednash> on a console
[19:09] <ednash> Then it should just show up as a desktop GUI application, and you can configure it https://github.com/JoseExposito/touchegg#configuration
[19:09] <frost-core> oooh
[19:09] <frost-core> an issue
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> !info touchegg
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> its just on the repos ednash
[19:10] <frost-core> http://paste.debian.net/1232430/
[19:10] <ednash> yeah but the git says better install from there ppa
[19:10] <ednash> but frost-core i think it may be simpler to do what lotuspsychje says
[19:10] <ednash> just type this single line and you're done -
[19:11] <ednash> sudo apt install touchegg
[19:11] <ednash> ...on a console (it will ask for your password)
[19:11] <frost-core> yeah
[19:11] <frost-core> im not a new to linux user
[19:11] <frost-core> i already know that
[19:11] <ednash> oh my apologies
[19:12] <frost-core> dont worry,
[19:14] <frost-core> also,
[19:14] <frost-core> when running touchegg from terminal, nothing
[19:15] <ednash> may be i will hold out till the LTS update comes in April!
[19:15] <ednash> thank you enigma9o7[m] lotuspsychje Maik
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> ednash: adviced to wait till 22.04.1 releases to upgrade from 20.04
[19:18] <ednash_afk> lotuspsychje: what's 22.04.1? do you mean i should wait until all issues with 22.04 are hammered out and ignore the update prompt till then?
[19:18] <tomreyn> actually there will be no prompt until roughtly around the 22.04.1 release
[19:19] <tomreyn> (and LTS upgrades won't be supported until then)
[19:19] <tomreyn> 22.04.1 is the first "point release" after 22.04(.0)
[19:22] <tomreyn> frost-core: i did not follow the conversation, but if http://paste.debian.net/1232430/ is a problem you're currently facing, then this is a result of a (temporary?) server error/misconfiguration on the server providing the apt repository you were trying to configure. or the command you ran just could not work the way you did - but we don't know which command produced this output)
[19:42] <ednash> i see makes sens tomreyn
[19:43] <ednash> will those on non-LTS 21.10 also get the prompt to update to LTS 22.04.1
[19:44] <Maik> 21.10 is set to upgrade to every release
[19:44] <Maik> so it will prompt to 22.04
[19:44] <ednash> so yes then
[19:44] <ednash> oh i see
[19:44] <ednash> as i am planning to install steam, wondering if i should get on the 21.10
[19:45] <ednash> to avoid potential complications that can arise if i don't have up-to-date packages
[19:46] <Maik> but... if you don't change it in after the upgrade to 22.04 it will prompt you again when 22.10 comes out. However you can change it to upgrade to LTS releases only
[19:47] <lexar> and thats why when you freeze stuff the tension is higher and it starts to exhibit the same effects
[19:47] <ednash> thanks Maik sounds good
[19:47] <ednash> interesting... looks like nvidia driver is (nearly) the latest one even though i am on 20.04
[19:48] <ednash> probably it comes from a different PPA? i have 510.47.03
[19:48] <ednash> nvidia page says latest is 510.54, so probably not very far off
[19:51] <ednash> i wonder if dist upgrade is anything more than switching the default PPA for ubuntu and running an upgrade
[20:07] <alkisg> apt-get dist-upgrade is a simple upgrade of packages. Maybe you mean `do-release-upgrade` instead
[21:17] <Diagon> I have posted an SE question regarding /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/dump-* files, here: https://superuser.com/questions/1707250/uefi-variable-storage-removing-sys-firmware-efi-dump-files-when-kernel-variab
[21:18] <Diagon> "UEFI Variable Storage (removing /sys/firmware/efi dump files) when Kernel Variables CONFIG_EFIVAR_FS & CONFIG_EFI_VARS both =y as in Ubuntu 20.04"
[21:50] <tomreyn> Diagon: looks like a uefi firmware bug, look for a vendor upgrade
[22:04] <wez> jhutchins: I went to bed :)
[22:05] <wez> but I think you meant someone else and tab completed to me cause they left.
[22:10] <jhutchins> wez: Right.
[22:18] <wez> 👍