[03:58] <alireza> How can I update mac address throigh ifconfig?
[04:05] <JoeBk> alireza, why would you want to change mac address?
[04:09] <JoeBk> alireza, https://www.linuxfordevices.com/tutorials/ubuntu/spoof-mac-address
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> !info macchanger
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> see also^
[04:14] <armadefuego> hw class address
[04:14] <armadefuego>               Set the hardware address of this interface, if  the  device  driver  supports  this
[04:14] <armadefuego>               operation.
[04:14] <armadefuego> taken from _man ifconfig_
[04:15] <armadefuego> If you are using it for privacy reasons realize that it doesn't afford much.
[04:22] <LoUDcLoUD> good evening
[04:23] <LoUDcLoUD> why they aren't  Ubuntu updates?
[04:23] <LoUDcLoUD> *there
[04:27] <Bashing-om> LoUDcLoUD: What release are you on ? - there were updates this day in focal for me.
[04:29] <JoeBk> LoUDcLoUD, type:  sudo apt update
[04:30] <JoeBk> if there are updates abailable, type: sudo apt upgrade
[04:31] <LoUDcLoUD> no updates
[04:31] <LoUDcLoUD> all packages up to date
[04:31] <LoUDcLoUD> been like 1 month like this
[04:31] <LoUDcLoUD> is it normal?
[04:32] <JoeBk> what version of ubuntu are you on?
[04:32] <JoeBk> no it's not normal
[04:32] <Bashing-om> LoUDcLoUD: Please show the output of ' cat /etc/issue '.
[04:33] <LoUDcLoUD> hirsute
[04:34] <Bashing-om> !hirsute
[04:34] <LoUDcLoUD> ohhhhhhhhh
[04:34] <LoUDcLoUD> is there a new version?
[04:34] <Bashing-om> !eol | LoUDcLoUD
[04:34] <JoeBk> latest LTS version is 20.04.4
[04:36] <JoeBk> He's not using an LTS version.
[04:36] <JoeBk> not good!
[04:52] <wez> :O
[04:52] <wez> LTS <3   I have never looked into it, but how expensive is ESM?
[04:55] <Bashing-om> wez: Free for 3 machines. Moreso for those of Ubuneu membersup status.
[04:55] <Bashing-om> !esm | wez
[04:57] <wez> Thank you Bashing-om!
[04:58] <Bashing-om> wez: :D
[04:58] <wez> 5 gold stars for you!
[05:52] <Lebela> hi
[05:52] <Lebela> I have recorded some videos using "open camera" (an app) on my Android phone
[05:52] <Lebela> now, after transferring them onto my Linux computer, they cannot be played
[05:53] <Lebela> "moov atom not found"   is the error
[05:53] <Lebela> so, I naturally used "untrunc" to fix it,  but,  even untrunc failed fixing it.
[05:53] <Lebela> The main thing I wonder about is:  Why can the video be played on Android but not on Linux?
[05:53] <Lebela> it plays just fine on my phone
[05:53] <Lebela> the md5 sums are identical on my phone and my computer
[05:56] <Lebela> I tried it on both,  Ubuntu and Debian - it fails on both Linux distros
[05:56] <Lebela> but it always works on Android
[06:06] <alkisg> Missing codecs. Try playing them with VLC.
[06:07] <Lebela> alkisg, not working in vlc, mpv, ffplay
[06:07] <Lebela> alkisg, the codec is h264 (in theory)
[06:07] <alkisg> Lebela: go to file information and see the codec
[06:07] <alkisg> Erhm. And what's the vlc output if you run it from the console?
[06:08] <Lebela> moov atom not found
[06:08] <Lebela> why is the moov atom working on Android then?  And not on linux?
[06:08] <Lebela> that makes no sense.  And the md5sums are identical
[06:08] <alkisg> Apart from that message, do you see anything else?
[06:09] <Lebela> nothing worth mentioning
[06:09] <Lebela> it's definitely the moov atom
[06:09] <alkisg> Try to play it with vlc, then paste all the output to pastebin
[06:09] <Lebela> ok
[06:12] <Lebela> alkisg, the output only contains stuff I'd need to censor (e.g. filenames)
[06:12] <Lebela> the ONLY errors are the moov atom and:  "Unknown error 1094995529"
[06:12] <Lebela> and this unknown error also refers to the moov atom
[06:12] <alkisg> What's the output of ffprobe /path/to/video ?
[06:13] <Lebela> moov atom not found
[06:13] <Lebela> Invalid data found when processing input
[06:14] <Lebela> why can't untrunc write to my external HD ?
[06:14] <Lebela> I already connected the snap....  "snap connect michaelp-anthwlock-untrunc:removable-media"
[07:42] <biglinux> hi dude
[07:59] <iomari891> greetings, will installing patheon desktop in any way conflict with kubuntu? latest version of both.
[08:21] <geirha> Looks like that has to be installed via a PPA..? if so, it depends on how well the package(s) in that PPA are put together. For the desktop environments available through Ubuntus official repos, there's no conflict. You just get to choose between one more DE from the login screen
[08:35] <alocer[m]> Hello all, Since This week is uubntu testing week, i like to know if there is any channels for it?
[09:09] <iomari891> geirha: thanks
[09:36] <luna> ay, and it went fine, to remove 6 packages and add 256 other ones :)
[09:36] <luna> Updated from Ubuntu MATE 20.04.2 to 20.04.4 yesterday, and it went fine, to remove 6 packages and add 256 other ones :)
[10:28] <menthasys> ciao a tutti, stavo provando a cambiare la password di root e pensavo di esserci riuscito ma al riavvio della macchina continua a prendere la vecchia password come se non avessi fatto nulla
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> !it | menthasys
[10:43] <menthasys> chiedo scusa
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:21] <wez> oh hai there BluesKaj!
[13:22] <BluesKaj> hey wez
[13:23] <wez> What's the latest BluesKaj ?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> wez, dunno , just got here :-)
[13:24] <wez> BluesKaj: I meant with you, I know what's happening here as I am in here :)
[13:24] <wez> you just joined so I don't like what you are up to
[13:25] <BluesKaj> morning coffee atm
[13:25] <wez> Good choice, I am about to get some ZzZzZzz
[13:26] <BluesKaj> sleep weel then
[13:26] <BluesKaj> well rather
[13:26] <wez> It is the morning here too, but just barely
[13:26] <wez> Happy Thursday btw
[13:27] <ghost> finally switched to ubuntu today.........................................
[13:28] <BluesKaj> ghost, congrats
[13:28] <ghost> thanks..
[13:28] <Glitzer> what were you on before, ghost?
[13:28] <ghost> windows 11..hehe
[14:13] <waltman> Hi. I've got a broken symlink on my desktop. I've logged back into the network share and the symlink is no longer broken, but it still shows as broken on the desktop. Is there any way to tell it "hey, this isn't broken anymore"?
[14:15] <BluesKaj> a relogin ?
[14:16] <alocer[m]> alt+f2 and type R press enter.
[14:16] <schuelermine[m]> Does Ubuntu use GDM?
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> schuelermine[m]: ubuntu desktop with gnome uses gdm3
[14:20] <schuelermine[m]> Thanks
[14:21] <schuelermine[m]> How does Ubuntu apply a theme to GDM? I want to reproduce it in a different context but all I can find are instructions for pre-Gnome-3 using gnome-appearance-properties
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> !themes | schuelermine[m]
[14:22] <schuelermine[m]> I know how to apply themes to the desktop using User Themes, but how do you do it in GDM?
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> schuelermine[m]: use at own risk, https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/10/login-screen-background-ubuntu-21-10/
[14:23] <Maik> schuelermine[m]: it's probably not that easy with GDM3
[14:24] <schuelermine[m]> Yeah, but how does Ubuntu do it by default? Is GDM compiled differently?
[14:25] <waltman> So there's no way to fix this aside from logging out or killing processes?
[14:26] <waltman> Honestly I've got workarounds to access the file and I'd rather not have to log out if I don't have to.
[14:27] <waltman> I wasn't sure if this was an actual bug or if there was some way reset it. Sounds like it's a bug.
[14:27] <Maik> schuelermine[m]: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1227070/how-do-i-change-login-screen-theme-or-background-in-ubuntu-20-04
[14:27] <Maik> maybe that helps
[14:28] <schuelermine> That doesn’t help, since that’s a case where gdm is already configured to look at the theme under “Yaru”. How do you change the theme *to* Yaru from Adwaita in the first place?
[14:30] <Maik> https://www.linuxuprising.com/2021/05/how-to-change-gdm3-login-screen-greeter.html
[14:31] <Maik> schuelermine[m]: maybe best to search for it on the web, i don't know the answers to that. :)
[14:31] <schuelermine> OK
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> schuelermine: to easy theme management, install gnome-tweaks
[14:32] <schuelermine[m]> On gdm?
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> no, to switch regular themes
[14:33] <Maik> lotuspsychje: gnome tweaks doesn't let you modify GDM
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> i know
[14:34] <Maik> and that is what the user wants
[14:34] <MaximB> Hi, is there a way to see if a root password has been set at all? (not change it or create a new password, just check if it was set)
[14:43] <waltman> Update: The icon fixed itself without my doing anything!
[14:47] <aether_> hello
[14:50] <aether> hey
[14:51] <Maik> Hi and welcome aether: if you have a Ubuntu support question just ask, casual talk is in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[14:52] <aether> quit
[14:52] <aether> clear
[14:59] <henstepl> Hello friends
[15:00] <henstepl> I have somehow installed Mono 6.8 and Mono 6.12 at once and now Apt is complaining about everything: E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[15:01] <henstepl> ANd apt --fix-broken install doesn't work either. I don't even care anymore. I want all of these to go away so I can update/upgrade again.
[15:16] <leftyfb> henstepl: ( cat /etc/os-release ; apt-cache policy mono-runtime ; sudo apt install -f ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:33] <beuys> Hello! For a while now, updates have been failing here: I get this error: Error 24 : Write error : cannot write compressed block
[15:33] <beuys> Could it be that my boot partition is full? Can I remove old kernels or something?
[15:35] <oerheks> apt autoremove could clean up, and old kernels are removed with the next update
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> beuys: could you pastebin the whole output apt gives you, volunteers might be able to debug a better way
[15:35] <oerheks> df -h # shows how much space is free?
[15:36] <genii> That's usually an update-initramfs message
[15:36] <beuys> lotuspsychje: Meanwhile I am pretty sure /boot/ is full. df -h shows 100% used.
[15:37] <oerheks> oh, standard ubuntu installs in one partition, to avoid that clutter
[15:39]  * beuys tries "apt purge linux-image-5.11.0-41-generic"
[15:39] <oerheks> why posting in 2 channels?
[16:44] <svm_invictvs> Heya
[16:44] <svm_invictvs> What do I need to install to get a joypad working in Ubuntu?
[16:46] <Ravage> most of them you just plug in. i think we need a little more information. Ubuntu version, model of your gamepad
[16:46] <Ravage> wired or BT
[16:59] <jhutchins> svm_invictvs: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/get-game-controllers-running-linux/
[17:18] <dirtcastle> guys I messed up my partition table.
[17:18] <dirtcastle> i haven't switched off my pc
[17:18] <dirtcastle> my root and home folder is messed up
[17:19] <dirtcastle> the partition on which my root and home folder is messed up was there was deleted.
[17:19] <dirtcastle> does ubuntu make a backup?
[17:19] <dirtcastle> of partition table automatically
[17:20] <Ravage> no
[17:21] <Ravage> if you can still access your data make a backup now
[17:22] <jhutchins> dirtcastle: What were you doing that caused the problems/
[17:22] <jhutchins> ?
[17:27] <dirtcastle> i was trying to install gentoo. I'm new to linux itself but I wanted to learn step by step slowly and be able to use it.  when I installed ubuntu I followed a yt tutorial . there was an extended partion of 100 gb and 20 gb was give to root and 80gb for home. when I used parted print It showed 3 seperate partition. I thought that 100gb was not being used and deleted it. in the end I saw the start and end of extended and root and home and I realised the
[17:27] <dirtcastle> were inside extended and I just deleted it
[17:27] <dirtcastle> jhutchins:
[17:28] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: i just joined, are you trying to solve that problem or you already fixed it?
[17:28] <dirtcastle> I'm trying to solve it. i downloaded testdisk but I'm still clueless
[17:29] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: no need, you only need to recreate the extended partition the same place as before
[17:30] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: can you type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' and paste the result?
[17:30] <dirtcastle> I did that cannot get it exactly right. I have the parted print free output before I deleted.
[17:30] <EriC^^> nice please paste that, as well as the current parted -l output
[17:31] <dirtcastle> https://paste.rs/OZK
[17:31] <dirtcastle> before
[17:32] <EriC^^> ok
[17:33] <dirtcastle> https://paste.rs/AHI
[17:33] <dirtcastle> current
[17:34] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: ok, type 'sudo fdisk /dev/sda'
[17:35] <dirtcastle> I have 2 ssd. I dual booted. parted -l gives me the output from other ssd it has windows.
[17:35] <EriC^^> no worries
[17:35] <dirtcastle> done
[17:36] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: press 'n' to create a new partition
[17:36] <dirtcastle> done
[17:36] <dirtcastle>  e extended?
[17:37] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:38] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: is it asking what the starting sector is yet?
[17:38] <dirtcastle> after e it asks partition number right now
[17:38] <dirtcastle> ok. I gave 2 because that was what there before
[17:38] <dirtcastle> now it asks sector
[17:39] <EriC^^> gotcha
[17:40] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: what's the sector range it's giving you?
[17:40] <dirtcastle> 999424-976773167
[17:41] <dirtcastle> first sector:
[17:41] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: try putting 1001470
[17:42] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: for last sector, just hit enter and keep it blank so it uses the maximum
[17:42] <EriC^^> when you get the prompt back, press 'p'
[17:43] <dirtcastle> done
[17:44] <EriC^^> what's the table look like currently?
[17:45] <dirtcastle> https://paste.rs/NGN
[17:46] <EriC^^> page not found
[17:47] <dirtcastle> my bad https://paste.rs/N6N
[17:50] <dirtcastle> 🤔 is smtg wrong
[17:52] <dirtcastle> EriC^^:
[17:52] <EriC^^> yeah i dunno what went wrong, the free space is huge between them, anyways i think it's better to use testdisk as you said, i thought it was going to simpler partition layout, my bad
[17:53] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: quit fdisk without saving anything, then sudo apt-get install testdisk
[17:53] <EriC^^> then type sudo testdisk /dev/sda
[17:53] <dirtcastle> I have test disk
[17:53] <dirtcastle> ok
[17:53] <EriC^^> ok cool, run it, choose no log
[17:54] <dirtcastle> yup?
[17:54] <EriC^^> then choose 'intel' for partition table type
[17:54] <dirtcastle> yup
[17:54] <EriC^^> (that just means msdos)
[17:54] <EriC^^> then analyse
[17:54] <dirtcastle> done
[17:54] <EriC^^> then quick search
[17:55] <dirtcastle> done
[17:55] <dirtcastle>  searching.
[17:55] <EriC^^> alright, once it's done please paste the results it gave
[17:58] <dirtcastle> EriC^^: https://paste.rs/d3t
[18:00] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: great, it found them
[18:00] <dirtcastle> nice.
[18:00] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: leave a "*" next to the swap one, so its the primary partition
[18:00] <dirtcastle> which is swap one
[18:01] <EriC^^> the first one
[18:01] <dirtcastle> just the first one
[18:01] <dirtcastle> ok
[18:01] <dirtcastle> it's already star
[18:01] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: yup, the 2nd ones, press the arrow to make it L
[18:02] <dirtcastle> yup. for the remaining two or just the second one?
[18:02] <EriC^^> remaining two
[18:02] <EriC^^> if you want you could make them primary partitions
[18:02] <EriC^^> you could leave them P
[18:03] <EriC^^> just remembered
[18:04] <dirtcastle> ok got it. if I leave them as logical will it become a part of a extended partition automatically? cause I think u need a extended partition and only inside that u can have a logical one.
[18:04] <dirtcastle> for now I will leave them as P I don't mind tho.
[18:04] <EriC^^> yeah exactly, i dont know what testdisk would do, it does have an "E" i think for the extended but it doesnt seem to list it
[18:04] <EriC^^> yeah good idea
[18:06] <dirtcastle> so continue?
[18:06] <chilversc> Any estimates on when 5.17 will be released under hwe once 22.04 LTS is released?
[18:06] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: yeah, press continue, then 'write'
[18:06] <dirtcastle> yup done
[18:08] <EriC^^> ok, type 'sudo partprobe /dev/sda' to load the new table
[18:08] <dirtcastle> amazing. I got it just like how it was before. EriC^^ : Thanks for your time. u saved me
[18:08] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: great, no problem
[18:09] <dirtcastle> I have run partprobe.  is that all?
[18:09] <EriC^^> yeah, if you want, try to mount them sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[18:10] <dirtcastle> sda2 doesn't exist?
[18:11] <dirtcastle> should I rebooted?
[18:11] <dirtcastle> reboot?
[18:11] <EriC^^> hmm, partprobe should load them up
[18:12] <EriC^^> how's sudo parted -ls looking?
[18:12] <dirtcastle> https://paste.rs/Rl1
[18:13] <EriC^^> looks good
[18:13] <EriC^^> try rebooting
[18:20] <craigbass76> Is there a way, in the GUI, to avoid a right-click when I'm trying to rename a file? Is there a keyboard button I can press?
[18:22] <EriC^^> craigbass76: the context key on the keyboard then 'm'
[18:23] <craigbass76> Context key... I'm trying alt, ctrl, and the windows key. Nadda so far.
[18:24] <craigbass76> EriC^^:
[18:24] <EriC^^> craigbass76: mine's between alt and ctrl to the right, you could use 'shift+f10' if you want too
[18:25] <dirtcastle> EriC^^:  I ran the partprobe and mount command   . is there anything left?
[18:25] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: nope that's all
[18:26] <dirtcastle> nice. again thanks for ur time!!
[18:26] <EriC^^> you're welcome
[18:39] <craigbass76> That pops up the same menu as right click. I'm done now, but I was trying to use my mouse to highlight the file, hit a key to get in to edit the name, and then not have to move the mouse again, just click. I was having to insert a zero in every pdf filename in a directory.
[19:35] <n00bl3t> Hello, in system dialogues that look like this: https://i.imgur.com/JE3ZBW0.png Do the underlined letters in the options indicate anything?
[19:37] <genii> Yes, keyboard shortcuts are available if you use CTRL and that letter
[19:37] <leftyfb> n00bl3t: you can hold ALT + <LETTER> to selection the option with your keyboard
[19:37] <genii> or ALT, I alwAys forget which
[19:37] <n00bl3t> Ah thank you! (I just checked, it's alt)
[19:37] <n00bl3t> That should speed up my workflow quite a bit
[20:13] <oerheks> !btrfs
[20:31] <josias_> soy josias
[20:34] <raub> the pulseaudio process in an ubuntu 20 vm I have is using 10% of the CPU. Since I do not use sound in that VM, can I uninstall it?
[20:46] <jhutchins> raub: Uninstalling pulseaudio has always been a good idea.  If you have a GUI desktop, it's possible that it will complain.
[20:51] <Guest2866> Hello \o/
[20:54] <Guest2866> I'm using Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS and the laptop started to freeze. I randomly see the screen glitch and afterward, the desktop is not responding. It seems like the Xserver / graphic card issue, but I suspect my power adapter cable might be causing this via static electricity. Could you help my find relevant logs to understand what exactly is happening?
[21:00] <Guest2866> I opened the native Logs app and the last message is "gnome-session-b: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....", but wtf can I figure out from this error?
[21:01] <sarnold> wow
[21:24] <jhutchins> Could I have a moment alone with that gnome developer and a cricket bat please?
[21:27] <pycurious> I've a ubuntu machine which has / with only 10G space on it. Is there a way to make sure that most of the things goto /datadrive? For example docker etc - even apt installs?
[21:29] <pycurious> or perhaps I can extend "/" to spill over on "/datadrive"?
[21:56] <jhutchins> pycurious: I would recommend repartitioning to a sane layout.
[21:57] <jhutchins> pycurious: You'd be far better off working iwth the standard Linux Filesystem Hierarchy rather than trying to munge it into an abstract layout.
[21:58] <jhutchins> pycurious: It's not unusual for applications to have paths hard coded internally.
[21:59] <jhutchins> pycurious: Partitioning mainly serves to ensure that the space you need will be on the wrong partition.
[22:13] <XATRIX> Hi, can you advice, i had some crash, and tried to fix ext4 fs errors. but after the system start i have many services down, and dmesg says : https://imgur.com/9cbgdPT.png
[22:13] <XATRIX> Any idea how to fix that ?
[22:14] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: aw man
[22:14] <XATRIX> yea :(
[22:14] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: I need to go and play oldschool Quake now
[22:14] <XATRIX> O_o
[22:14] <XATRIX> np. have fun
[22:14] <gordonjcp> let me see if I can suggest anything for your problem real quick while pak0.pak downloads
[22:15] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: you *are* named after the Quake mission pack right?
[22:15] <Ravage> XATRIX: this looks like a VM?
[22:15] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: I think you'll need to boot that VM single-user and fsck that partition
[22:15] <XATRIX> you mean my nickname ? don't you ?
[22:15] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: yes
[22:16] <XATRIX> Ravage: yeap. QEMU on proxmox
[22:16] <XATRIX> go4godvin: Syberia , Panasonic 3DO ;)
[22:16] <XATRIX> gordonjcp: sorry :) it's for you
[22:16] <Ravage> yep. boot a livecd. i like to use the gentoo live iso for that. but any rescue/live linux should do
[22:17] <Ravage> try to repair the filesystem from there
[22:17] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: you've got control of the host machine then?
[22:18] <Ravage> the I/O error is still strange. so also look if maybe your proxmox storage is working correctly too
[22:18] <gordonjcp> yeah
[22:18] <gordonjcp> I feel like that could be a red herring
[22:18] <XATRIX> gordonjcp: yeap
[22:19] <Ravage> i know that there was a kernel problem in proxmox 7 that caused such errors in the virtio scsi devices
[22:19] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: so
[22:19] <Ravage> so make sure you are updated and reboot after that
[22:20] <Ravage> (the host)
[22:20] <boblamont> I've got a major problem. I updated php and now my wordpress site died
[22:20] <Ravage> boblamont: you dont get any major updates within a Ubuntu release
[22:21] <XATRIX> My virtual disk of this VM is on LVM on a host machine
[22:22] <XATRIX> it's quite hard to check for consistency
[22:22] <boblamont> Ravage: i had php 7.2, I updated to 7.4, it still worked
[22:22] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: not really
[22:22] <Ravage> XATRIX: you should be able to do the check on block device of the host then
[22:22] <Ravage> but you are already in #proxmox
[22:22] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: is the lvm slice presented to the VM as a whole disk, which is then partitioned?
[22:23] <boblamont> Ravage: then when I did a general update, it updated php to 8.1
[22:23] <Ravage> that is really a topic you can discuss there :)
[22:23] <XATRIX> take a look please https://imgur.com/V5y516L.png
[22:23] <Ravage> boblamont: there is no Ubuntu release that is supported here with PHP 8.1
[22:24] <sarnold> boblamont: you upgraded to jammy? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php8.1
[22:24] <boblamont> how do I go back to 7.4?
[22:24] <sarnold> boblamont: normally software authors don't support releases until after they're released
[22:24] <XATRIX> suddenly, i found the problem. it looks like it ran out of space
[22:24] <sarnold> boblamont: roll back to focal? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php7.4
[22:24] <gordonjcp> XATRIX: that'd do it
[22:24] <XATRIX> https://imgur.com/6QdE2Ek.png
[22:25] <leftyfb> boblamont: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:25] <Ravage> XATRIX: have a look at kpartx to get the partitions of your disk-00 devices. but we should continue in #proxmox
[22:25] <oerheks> https://thisinterestsme.com/wordpress-extensions-php-8/
[22:25] <oerheks> maybe a help for php8.1
[22:25] <XATRIX> got it thanks
[22:25] <gordonjcp> Ravage: you can do that with loopback devices
[22:26] <Ravage> true. it does the same thing
[22:26] <XATRIX> give some time. i'll try to free some space, and restart that staff
[22:26] <oerheks> another hint; https://toggen.com.au/it-tips/updating-wordpress-divi-to-php8-1-x-on-ubuntu-20-04/
[22:27] <boblamont> I lost connection to the server I got as far as "maybe a help for php8.1"
[22:27] <boblamont> anyone offer anything after that?
[22:27] <leftyfb> boblamont: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:27] <boblamont> leftyfb: what does that do?
[22:28] <leftyfb> boblamont: it will show us the release of ubuntu you are running
[22:28] <Ravage> you can also just paste the output of "cat /etc/os-release". its one line
[22:28] <Ravage> oh its not.sorry
[22:28] <boblamont> leftyfb: i'm running 18.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.15.0-169-generic x86_64)
[22:29] <Ravage> boblamont: then you added external sources for PHP?
[22:29] <boblamont> yes
[22:29] <Ravage> on only PPA i know for that is ondrej
[22:29] <boblamont> that's the one
[22:29] <Ravage> and that offers all version
[22:29] <Ravage> so remove all php8.1* packages
[22:29] <Ravage> install the php7.4 ones
[22:29] <leftyfb> boblamont: you'll want to purge the PPA and it's packages you used to install php. Then reinstall php7.2 from the official repo's. Anything else is unsupported
[22:30] <Ravage> or go back to what 18.04 offers
[22:30] <leftyfb> 7.2
[22:30] <Ravage> but in general the PPA should work fine too
[22:30] <boblamont> I need 7.3 or higher, is  that possible? 7.4 was working ok, except wordpress didn't see it
[22:31] <Ravage> its really as simple as "apt remove" and "apt install"
[22:31] <leftyfb> boblamont: if you need php7.4, I would recommend upgrading to Ubuntu 20.04 and get it from official sources
[22:31] <Ravage> you must have followed some guide to do the updare
[22:31] <leftyfb> Ravage: ppa-purge would be better
[22:32] <Ravage> if he wants 7.4 on 18.04 he will need the ppa
[22:32] <leftyfb> sure, get to a clean slate and then reinstall 7.4 from the unsupported PPA
[22:32] <Ravage> but sure. upgrade to 20.04 is a good idea
[22:32] <boblamont> I don't care at this point, i'll take 7.2, how do I do ppa purge?
[22:33] <leftyfb> boblamont: apt list --installed |grep php | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:34] <boblamont> https://termbin.com/uh14
[22:35] <Ravage> that is some mix of versions :)
[22:35] <Ravage> 7.4 seems to be installed
[22:35] <Ravage> do you run it on apache?
[22:35] <boblamont> yes
[22:35] <Ravage> then use a2dismod
[22:35] <Ravage> to disable php 8
[22:36] <leftyfb> boblamont: you have a sury.org ppa enabled
[22:36] <Ravage> and a2enmod to enable the 7.4 module
[22:37] <boblamont> Ravage: whate exactly do I enter to dismod?
[22:37] <Ravage> after an apache restart and a little luck your site should be up again
[22:38] <Ravage> a2dismod [enter]
[22:38] <Ravage> shows a list
[22:38] <Ravage> choose the 8.1 module
[22:38] <Ravage> do the same with a2enmod and php7.4
[22:39] <boblamont> Your choices are: access_compat alias auth_basic authn_core authn_file authz_core authz_host authz_user autoindex deflate dir env filter mime mpm_prefork negotiation php7.2 proxy proxy_fcgi reqtimeout rewrite setenvif socache_shmcb ssl status
[22:40] <Ravage> so you should be still running php7.2
[22:40] <Ravage> if you want 7.4 disable 7.2 and enable 7.4
[22:42] <boblamont> this is what killed the site a2enconf php8.1-fpm
[22:43] <Ravage> i dont see that module enabled
[22:43] <Ravage> oh its a config
[22:43] <Ravage> then revert that
[22:43] <Ravage> a2disconf
[22:43] <Ravage> and see if there is a 7.4-fpm config in a2enconf
[22:44] <Ravage> i dont know your original setup so this is kind of a guessing game now
[22:44] <boblamont> oh thank god, it worked
[22:44] <Ravage> great :)
[22:45] <boblamont> actually thank you guys, it was you, not a diety
[22:45] <boblamont> there may yet be a thing, hold on... let me log in to the admin area
[22:46] <boblamont> yeah, wordpress still sees 7.2, not 7.4
[22:47] <Ravage> find out if you run php as fpm or with the apache module
[22:47] <Ravage> you may have configured both
[22:47] <Ravage> i still see php7.2 i a2dismod
[22:48] <Ravage> *in a2dismod
[22:48] <boblamont> I didn't even have fpm installed but someone in the worfpress group said the I had to restart it to get wordpress to see that I went to 7.4
[22:49] <boblamont> so I don't think i even need it, do I?
[22:49] <Ravage> ok. then use a2disconf to remove all php configs
[22:49] <Ravage> disable php7.2 in a2dismod
[22:49] <Ravage> and enable php7.4 in a2enmod
[22:55] <boblamont> I disabled 7.2 and enabled 7.4 and then got this in my wordpress Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL extension which is required by WordPress
[22:55] <Ravage> apt install php7.4-mysql
[22:55] <Ravage> and maybe check other modules in the requirements
[22:55] <Ravage> dont forget to restart apache
[22:56] <Ravage> usual suspects are mbstring, xml, curl, gd
[22:56] <Ravage> so make sure those are installed
[22:57] <boblamont> I need gd, there are some other optional ones
[22:59] <boblamont> got gd, now it says the only stuff are optional
[23:00] <boblamont> I updated the plugin that wanted 7.3 or higher
[23:00] <boblamont> is there any reason not to install the optional modules?
[23:01] <Ravage> Go for it
[23:02] <boblamont> mind if I ask what these do and if they really seem necessary? I'm not exactly feeling bold...
[23:04] <Ravage> I think explaining PHP modules goes a little far for this channel. Google will give you a lot information about them. The ones I listed are safe to enable
[23:05] <boblamont> ok
[23:06] <yhirose3>    /buffer 6