=== waveform_ is now known as waveform [16:00] o/ [16:00] o/ [16:00] o/ [16:00] teward: are you around for the meeting today? o/ [16:01] I would like to start the meeting regardless of quorum, at least to maybe get the final vote for our existing application + take a look at some of the action items and also discuss the nominations for the DMB [16:02] not really. neck deep in Exchange at work - updating certs on it is a **pain** when it misbehaves. ping me if you need me but otherwise send items to ML for me to vote o [16:02] on* [16:02] ACK [16:02] sorry - random broken stuff at FT job is beyond my control >.> [16:02] #startmeeting DMB meeting [16:02] Meeting started at 16:02:46 UTC. The chair is sil2100. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:02] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [16:03] #topic DMB elections [16:03] rbasak: thank you for sending our the call for nominations [16:03] I think we still have one nominee so far, right..? [16:03] Yes [16:03] Nominations are open for a further week I think. [16:04] I don't know what to do if we don't receive enough nominations. I think we may need to consult with the TB if that happens (while still trying to get more I guess) [16:04] I think the e-mail mentioned 23rd as the voting time start, right? [16:04] Yes, but that's conditional on having four nominations [16:04] (I haven't checked the date) [16:04] So I guess no action items for now then, let's see how many people are interested [16:05] My intention was to allow enough time for nominations and for a public discussion period [16:05] #topic Review of previous action items [16:05] (taken roughly from the schedule I used last time) [16:05] So we have quite a lot of action items needing reassignment [16:06] Let's see which ones we can assign to the existing memebers and for which others we'll just wait for new DMB members to come in [16:06] (or remove) [16:06] * pkgset tooling needs full documentation and automation [16:07] I think this is good to be done, but nothing critical, so I'd leave it for when we have a full squad [16:08] * tsimonq2 to better document what we expect applicants to know (will be carried until mentioned) [16:08] I think this one is very important and I'd like this to be picked up even now, if possible [16:08] I agree and I'd be happy to do it, but I don't have the capacity in the next few weeks. [16:08] This would be the first step to making the application processa bit more standardized [16:09] rbasak: let me start off on that one and then maybe pass it on to else (or do some collaborative work on it) [16:09] I think with some recent applications we've had to decline, it makes sense to try and be far more specific than we have been in the past on our expectations. [16:09] Sure [16:10] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RobieBasak/DMB/CoreDev is my page that I would like to expand on. [16:10] #action sil2100 to better document what we expect applicants to know, at last an initial draft and then pass over to rbasak (will be carried until mentioned) [16:10] ACTION: sil2100 to better document what we expect applicants to know, at last an initial draft and then pass over to rbasak (will be carried until mentioned) [16:10] But IMHO it's time to take something like that and make it general and DMB-wide (figuring out what to adjust to get consensus on the way) [16:10] +1 [16:11] We'd have to discuss the final version though, since I assume members might have different criteria [16:11] Yes absolutely. [16:11] So I assume the final version would need a full DMB for voting [16:11] That's the hard/time consuming part, but it needs to be done [16:11] Ok, moving on... [16:11] * ddstreet to write up a proposal for upload access expiry following some period of disuse (will be carried until mentioned) [16:12] yes please reassign or remove it [16:13] Is this still something we want to pursue? I mean, it's certainly an idea that might make things clearer, but I don't think the current no-ruleset is a problem? [16:13] Taking into consideration the lack of resources right now [16:13] So I'll unassign it from ddstreet but qestion is: do we still keep it for future assignemnt? [16:14] I'll keep it, but without assignment for now [16:14] * ddstreet edubuntu seed <-> pkgset (carried over) [16:14] Was this requested by someone? [16:17] Okay, leaving this one unassigned as well [16:17] * ddstreet update DMB KB to clarify new contributing developers should only be added to ~ubuntu-developer-members, not to ~ubuntu-dev nor ~ubuntu-uploaders [16:17] I don't think this was resolved, and I think it's good to do? [16:18] Let me take that [16:18] #action sil2100 update DMB KB to clarify new contributing developers should only be added to ~ubuntu-developer-members, not to ~ubuntu-dev nor ~ubuntu-uploaders [16:18] ACTION: sil2100 update DMB KB to clarify new contributing developers should only be added to ~ubuntu-developer-members, not to ~ubuntu-dev nor ~ubuntu-uploaders [16:18] * ddstreet update application docs and possibly DMB checklist, to make sure candidates have signed CoC before applying and before DMB approves (carried over) [16:19] rbasak, teward: any of you want to take care of this one? [16:20] ...ok, guess people are busy, so I'll just assign that to me for now [16:20] Same as before for me - I can do it in a while but don't want to take it right now. [16:20] Might take a bit for me though, possibly later this week, so still better [16:20] #action sil2100 update application docs and possibly DMB checklist, to make sure candidates have signed CoC before applying and before DMB approves (carried over) [16:20] ACTION: sil2100 update application docs and possibly DMB checklist, to make sure candidates have signed CoC before applying and before DMB approves (carried over) [16:21] The * ddstreet schedule new election for vacant DMB seats - this is basically resolved [16:21] Then there's some action items from teward, and two of those are 'done' with the only one to be carried over is '* teward follow up to get all application process wiki/docs to explain the process to be able to edit wiki pages, for applicants who don't yet have wiki edit access (carried over)', so I'll leave it as is [16:21] Any questions regarding action items? [16:22] Moving on! [16:22] #topic Ubuntu Contributing Developers Applications [16:22] So we still have an ongoing application for xypron via e-mail [16:23] We need one more vote for the application to be 'handled' [16:23] ddstreet: are you able to vote? [16:23] sure, can you start the vote? [16:24] #vote xypron to become Ubuntu Contributing Developer [16:24] Please vote on: xypron to become Ubuntu Contributing Developer [16:24] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname') [16:24] +1 [16:24] +1 received from ddstreet [16:24] o/ [16:25] Rest already voted! [16:25] #endvote [16:25] Voting ended on: xypron to become Ubuntu Contributing Developer [16:25] Votes for: 1, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0 [16:25] Motion carried [16:25] ddstreet: thanks! [16:25] xypron: yaay, we can add you now! [16:25] :) [16:25] ddstreet do you want to do the additions/announcement, or would you prefer me to do the honors instead? [16:26] you please [16:26] #action sil2100 to finalize xypron's Ubuntu Contributing Developer membership [16:26] ACTION: sil2100 to finalize xypron's Ubuntu Contributing Developer membership [16:26] #action sil2100 to announce xypron's Ubuntu Contributing Developer successfull application [16:26] ACTION: sil2100 to announce xypron's Ubuntu Contributing Developer successfull application [16:26] ...that's a lot of action items ;p [16:27] Might need some late night coffee for that! [16:27] #topic Mailing-list requests [16:27] I didn't see any, so I think we're good? [16:28] #topic Open TB bugs [16:28] None [16:28] #topic AOB [16:28] Any other business, anyone? [16:29] Hopefully we'll be fully staffed soon [16:30] I would love for possible DMB candidates to apply by themselves, knowing that they'll have enough time during the 2 year period [16:30] Okay, going once... [16:30] Going twice... [16:30] #endmeeting [16:30] Meeting ended at 16:30:38 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-03-07-16.02.moin.txt [16:30] o/ [16:30] Thank you for chairing sil2100! [16:30] Let me update the Agenda after my other meeting