[00:03] Ravage: thank you... what does it do more precisely? Also, can i mount something directly under /mnt ? [00:04] its basically mounting up a lot of stuff from the drive, and then chrooting, which allows it to do what? [00:04] use /mnt/ for fstab entries, /media/ for temporary mounts [00:05] oerheks: yeah this was for a specific procedure i guess [00:06] the commands will try to fix your boot problem [00:11] do you guy know if 22.04 will also removing favorites in nautilus? [00:11] will alow* [00:12] so, i read about two ways to check if i'm running a classical BIOS or UEFI system. I am currently booting from USB though. first i mounted the inernal HD and looked for sys/firmware/efi. My whole (mounted) sys was empty. [00:13] Second i tried installing efibootmgr . Then while running it, with sudo, i get "EFI variables are not supported on this system." . Is this a test i can trust, given that i'm booting from a USB memeory here, or do i need to actually boot from the internal HD ? [00:17] sybariten: Mount the root file system and look if its /etc/fstab file contains an EFI partition (mount point: /boot/efi) is another way to see. [00:27] Bashing-om: hm, do you think you could explain a bit more how to do that? shall i mount sda1 or sda2, considering that sda2 is "the big part" of the disk [00:27] well you prolly mean sda2 [00:29] sybariten: what's the actual problem you're having [00:30] sybariten: a better way to see what the install is, is to do 'grep efi /mountpoint/etc/fstab' and see if there's an efi partition being mounted [00:30] what's the issue you're having though, why do you want to know if it's efi/legacy? [00:31] EriC^: well it's a boot failure, immediately when turning on the machine. Used to be a working ubuntu system but i think i shut it off a bit violently or something. There was some discussions indicating that its good to know if its legacy bios or UEFI ... but i should probably just follow the grub reinstall instructions that ravager posted above [00:31] sybariten: "/dev/sda2 1050624 625141759 624091136 297.6G Linux filesystem" . [00:31] sybariten: i see, what happens when you try to boot now? [00:32] Bashing-om: i'm looking at the fstab file from the mounted disk, it has this line for instance UUID=97C1-7C0F /boot/efi vfat umask=0077 0 1 [00:32] EriC^: "boot failure, press any key to continue" [00:34] sybariten: so you mounted the root fs at /mnt? [00:34] sybariten: EriC^ is the EFI booting guru - I bow out to him :D [00:34] EriC^: at /media/newhd , in fact ... just now [00:34] Bashing-om: aha aha [00:34] the more the merrier, what i always say [00:35] is there an english saying/proverb that indicates the opposite of that? We have one in my language [00:35] sybariten: type "for i in /dev /proc /sys; do sudo mount -R $i /media/newhd$i; done" [00:36] "the more chefs, the worse the soup" :-D [00:36] EriC^: ok! worked with no complaints [00:37] sybariten: alright, type 'sudo chroot /media/newhd' [00:38] EriC^: are we gonna do this? https://p.haxxors.com/y2cc7uh4.txt cause i havent really mounted stuff like that yet [00:39] we already did [00:39] i mean, not the other partition, and not in that same mount point (which perhaps is less important) [00:39] it doesnt matter really [00:39] ok, but i dont need to mount sda1 ? [00:39] getting there ;) [00:39] aha aha [00:40] aiight the partition is chrooted... which i've never understood exactly what it means [00:40] it literally just means change root, so now '/media/newhd' is the new "/" root dir [00:41] sybariten: type 'mount /boot/efi' [00:41] but i feel like i also become root when doing it? [00:42] yeah it runs bash by default and we used sudo, so you get a root shell [00:42] ok yep. Change root dir, i'll try to remember that. Okay i mounted /boot/efi , no complaints [00:42] ok, try "grub-install [00:43] "grub-install" [00:43] hm. Got an interesting error. rub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory. [00:44] ls /usr/lib/grub/ --> grub-mkconfig_lib x86_64-efi x86_64-efi-signed [00:45] type 'grub-install --target=x86_64-efi' [00:45] gotcha [00:45] Hmmmmmmmmm [00:46] what happened? [00:47] well it was chewing for a while but eventually i got this https://pastebin.com/Vuj5qKBs [00:47] sybariten: use ubuntu's paste, not pastebin. [00:48] could i have created some mysterious uefi/legacy mismatch on this machine, a while ago? and thus breaking it? [00:48] sybariten: type 'ls /sys/firmware/efi' [00:48] jailbreak: We welcome any and all pastebins here, please don't gatekeep. :) [00:48] i think you booted the live usb in legacy mode sybariten [00:49] jailbreak: hmmm seems i need an account, so... [00:49] Eickmeyer: pastebin.com is full of cancer ads [00:49] jailbreak: We still welcome its use for our purposes. [00:49] +1 [00:49] okay... [00:50] EriC^: hm no /sys only contains acpi dmi memmap [00:51] sybariten: hmm, could you share a paste of 'parted -ls' ? [00:51] curious if it might give any useful info [00:51] EriC^: i still don't have a good understanding of this efi/legacy thing - can i choose how to boot a usb distro? Isn't the efi/legacy thing a quality of the motherboard or something, and thus soemthing which is either one or the other? [00:52] sybariten: yeah new mb's are uefi, but they have csm legacy (compatibility module), and typically you can choose how to boot the usb, and the system also has a main setting which it uses when you turn it on [00:53] usb usually in the one-time boot menu it gives something like "usb..blabla, and UEFI usb blabla" [00:54] EriC^: parted output: https://pastebin.com/HzPNUACX btw the machine definitely looks like it's more than ten years old, if that's interesting. I could maybe try to figure out exactly.. [00:54] sybariten: im thinking, really grub is now in the efi partition which is good, the last thing it was trying to do was edit the uefi entries (in the motherboard) and add ubuntu and set it as default [00:55] sybariten: you were using efi for sure, the partition table is gpt, and for gpt + legacy to work you need a special partition called a bios_boot and it isnt there [00:56] aha [00:56] sybariten: which kind of laptop or motherboard is it? [00:56] sometimes they can let you browse for the efi file, in case it's missing from the menu you could use that [00:58] Lets see... the machine is a fujitsu esprimo q900..... "mainboard chipset" may be called Intel® QM67 , dunno if that's a lead... checking some other info... [00:58] sybariten: you can also copy the efi file to the 'standard' locations, it would usually look there by default [00:59] sybariten: type 'mkdir /boot/efi/efi/boot; mkdir -p /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot' [00:59] yeah its a mini machine and unless the moterhboard is called mini itx or something, i'm guessing it goes by the name intel qm67 [01:00] mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/boot/efi/efi/boot’: File exists [01:00] ok type 'cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/boot/bootx64.efi' [01:01] also 'cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi' [01:02] both operations worked. So i'm taking an existing "efi file" and putting it in a coupla other places too [01:02] exactly [01:03] ok, type 'exit' to exit the chroot then restart, make sure uefi is enabled in the bios, or csm legacy is disabled [01:04] you could run 'update-grub' if you want for good measure, wont harm [01:06] it's not really needed so dont sweat it [01:07] if you rebooted before typing it [01:07] any luck sybariten ? [01:11] Is there any way to have ipv6 prefix delegations + hint work with just netplan? [01:12] sorry was in the kitchen [01:13] no worries [01:13] EriC^: ok i shall reboot. But i shall make sure to get into the bios, and look for uefi/legacy settings? [01:13] yeah, try rebooting, if it doesnt work, enter the bios [01:13] and this i can pretty much expect to find? [01:13] Ah ok [01:13] i'll run the updategrub thing too first [01:13] yeah should be under boot options [01:14] alright [01:14] thats still from the chroot environment right? [01:14] yup [01:15] OK yeah it did some stuff. I'm exiting and rebooting, lets see what happens. [01:23] hmmmm ok so i still got the boot failure actually. And i went into the bios after that, but this is frustrating, i can not really see very obviously where the uefi settings would be? Its an american megatrends blah balh, i could probably find screenshots of the exact same bios [01:27] sybariten: it seems that f8 should give you the boot menu [01:27] aha yeah i'm not really in the boot menu i think, no. I'm in the bios... [01:27] other sites mention f7 [01:28] sybariten: it might show you the uefi menu [01:29] should i try to go there instead. My only clue here in the bios is that under the second menu choice, "advanced", there is cpu, grpahics, SATA etc confogurtaton, and under one of them, USB .. there is some "usb efi legacy" setting IIRC (cant see the monitor right now when i [01:29] im chatting) [01:29] but OK i [01:30] bloody bluetooth keyboard... but OK ill hunt for the boot menu instead === wez is now known as notwez [01:32] sybariten: dunno if this helps https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E23161_01/html/E37044/figures/mblegacyboot.jpg [01:33] i think that's like an early 2000's pc or something though === notwez is now known as wez [01:40] Hmm well this is frustrating. There is indeed a boot menu, i get it from F12. I mean first theres that blade runner style page with the red triangle logo and it says del/f2 for bios, f12 for boot menu [01:40] Ok so I have the following netplan config: https://static.ftown.cloud/netplan.yml that gives ipv4/ipv6 on the VLAN wan definition. I'm also told by my ISP that I can get a IPv6PD of ::/56, is there any way to achieve this with just plain netplan or do I have to resort to wide-dhcpv6 or something else? [01:41] if i go to the boot menu i have only three choices as of now: the HD, the network boot, or "bios settings" . And this ofcourse brings me to the normal bios. I took photos of all the pages in the bios though EriC^ [01:42] ah cool [01:42] you could upload to imgur.com if you want [01:43] OK hang on i'll see what i can do. There is indeed a boot tab like in your screenshot, but it does not have the same choices...at all [01:44] aha [01:48] EriC^: i think this may work ...? https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ne4Vw9YGVJLg2tBo7 NB: no pic of the separate boot menu but it really wasnt so interesting [02:08] uhm ok so i gotta hit the sack.... i dunno if theres a system for leaving messages for offline users here on the libera services.... [02:09] ...but if anyone would happen to see EriC^ log back in, please tell him that i needed to sleep, couldnt find any uefi settings in my BIOS, and that i === littlepap_ is now known as littlepap [02:09] ...i'm very thankful for his help [02:10] sybariten: /msg memoserv send [02:11] ah, thank you Bashing-om . [02:12] sybariten: np -- eric may be sufferribg connectuon issues :( [02:13] Bashing-om: gotcha. Sent him a memo, we'll see if he gets it. Peace === M4he is now known as mahe === JoeBk_ is now known as JoeBk [02:55] !jammy [02:55] Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) will be the 36th release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release April 2022 (https://ubottu.com/y/jj). Join #ubuntu-next for support and questions. === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK [04:40] Hi, I have a Linux VM on the Google cloud (only terminal access, no Google administration atm) and I am trying to understand / benchmark the disk. I ran fio but am a bit confused by the output. What should I compare it to? I am running a database doing lots of reads/writes. I know this is a bit nebulous, but would appreciate some guidance on what modern database servers need. Part of the exercise is to figure out whether th [04:40] e engineers have allocated SSD or not. TIA [04:44] 20.04 I want to make a persisten usb. https://itechbrand.com/how-to-create-a-live-ubuntu-usb-drive-with-persistent-storage/ -- it says The mkusb icon will appear on the screen. -- I dont get a window on top AND i DONT KNOW A COMMAND TO SHOW THE DESKTOP. (FULLSTOP) [04:45] nope, nothing on the desktop either. [04:52] morganu: I believe that's just telling you to run mkusb. The super key (and typing) will search applications, etc. Depending on your setup, you may have to install it first. This page will walk you through installing (and using, including a handful of other references): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb [05:05] hi2all; why my `sudo apt update` crashes with Segmentation fault? https://gist.github.com/b10s/2e74f38c015cf4e7e2a44f67f18d4c4d [05:06] b100s: you'll need to contact Canonical for ESM support [05:06] leftyfb, do you think there is something wrong with /etc/apt/preferences.d/ubuntu-esm-infra ? [05:06] b100s: you are running an EOL version of ubuntu. The only support is through Canonical [05:08] leftyfb, I see. Interesting, EOL shouldn't crash per my understanding but it's better to update, right : ) What is the best, safest way to upgrade ubuntu to latest one but preserve all current soft and settings? [05:09] b100s: since you're running a version of ubuntu that was released over 6 years ago, I would highly recommend installing 20.04 from scratch and restoring from backup. Or wait till next month and install 22.04 when it is released [05:13] I see, thank you for advice. Got it. Now I'm wondering, just out of curiousity, why it may crash with segmentation fault [05:17] When I press the superkey to do a search for an application, there are absolutely no results anymore after upgrading to 20.04 - is there some command I can call to rescan/reindex that? [05:27] Got it. Reinstalled the lens files. [05:27] Now I "just" need to get back my blu-ray burner. === Mibix is now known as GefilteFish [06:00] Flannel, hi I HAVE installed mkusb. Yes it IS telling me HOW to run mkusb but that doesnt work. === EricFan1 is now known as EricFan [06:02] leftyfb, seems here is a way to be updated without reinstallation: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/upgrading-ubuntu-desktop#1-before-you-start [06:10] 20.04 I want to make a persisten usb. https://itechbrand.com/how-to-create-a-live-ubuntu-usb-drive-with-persistent-storage/ -- iThanks Flannel. so I just forgot the super key and typed it in and it ran and did all the things the page did and now is installing 21.10 on a persistent drive. -- And I do believe I can also use that USB to install a 21.10 partition (crossed fingers) === cypostres_ is now known as cypostres === kaiseisei1 is now known as kaiseisei [07:22] Do any of you use DoveCot and Fetchmail/ [07:46] hello [07:50] Next problem: After upgradin to 20.04 my audio is gone. [07:51] Do any of you use DoveCot and Fetchmail? [07:51] mr_lou, Check PulseAudio [07:52] mr_lou: how did you upgrade ? [07:52] ZombieRyushu: why are you asking? [07:52] alocer[m], Using Update Manager [07:53] mr_lou: you can try troubleshooting by checking if pulseaudio is running or not? try restarting pulseaudio and see if helps or not. also pavucontrol might help too. [07:53] alocer[m], I migrated to Ubuntu from another distro, and was trying to reuse configs for contnuity [07:54] Since Migrating, Fetchmail gives permissions erroes [07:54] ZombieRyushu: what are the errors ? [08:00] ar 07 03:00:10 olympia procmail[12423]: Insufficient privileges to deliver to "Dad" [08:00] Mar 07 03:00:11 olympia procmail[12424]: Insufficient privileges to deliver to "Dad" [08:00] Mar 07 03:00:13 olympia procmail[12432]: Insufficient privileges to deliver to "Mom" [08:05] It seems Dad and Mom are not in the 'mail' group. ZombieRyushu [08:07] Nothing. Tried a few things from here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/63028055/sound-not-working-focal-fossa-ubuntu-20-04 [08:07] Still nothing. But now I have two network icons in the top bar.... tsk. [08:08] lmc [08:09] alocer[m], these are AD accounts [08:09] mr_lou: does the `pulseaudio --check; echo $?` returns zero? [08:10] ZombieRyushu: can you run `id Dad` ? it tells you which groups their in. This was my problem back in the days. [08:11] uid=509(Dad) gid=504(Domain Users) groups=504(Domain Users),514(Domain Guests) [08:11] THese are Domain accounts, but delivery takes place in /opt [08:12] ZombieRyushu: you probably need to contact the AD admin to make sure they are inthe right group and etc. can't think of more things. [08:12] ZombieRyushu: did you google the errors ? [08:12] Yes. [08:28] alocer[m], sudo alsa force-reload seemed to do the trick. Hope it'll stay that way after reboot. [08:31] Nope. After reboot audio is gone again. [08:31] alsa problem ! weird. [08:32] I hate upgrading. I always spend days afterwards on problems like this. I only upgraded because I hoped it would fix another problem that I've experienced before: Blu-ray burner doesn't work anymore. [08:33] it shouldn't have anything with alsa [08:33] alocer[m], But yes, `pulseaudio --check; echo $?` returns 0 [08:34] seems your are using lots of 3rd party tools. [08:34] Probably... because everytime there's a problem, I search the net and try all sorts of suggested solutions. [08:34] Already tried many this time too. [08:35] I would have stuck with 18.04 forever if no other problems came along. [08:35] I hate upgrading. [08:35] I'm a musician, so obviously I need working audio. [08:40] hmm, you sound right, upgrading will cause lots of trouble for all the customization you have done. [08:40] i think lessons are learned. [08:51] Oh I already knew that. That's why I hate upgrading. That's why I stay with old versions for many years. [08:51] Something always goes wrong and forces me to do various workarounds. [08:51] And these workarounds cause even more problems lever. [08:51] *later [08:51] I see no way around it. [08:51] Except don't upgrade. [08:52] New plan is to set up a machine that is always offline for certain things. [08:55] Oh great, now I'm also missing a harddisk.... [08:58] salve [08:58] !list [08:58] aurora_: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». === javaJake_ is now known as javaJake [09:06] oh boy [09:06] i think reinstall is easier :-D [09:14] Well yes, probably. Except I'll need to buy a new harddisk then, to make sure I don't lose anything. [09:14] And it still won't fix my blu-ray burner issue. [09:15] Unless I install an older version and stick with that. [09:17] hi [09:19] do some of you use bottle or web frameworks? [09:19] HI I don,t know if I am out of line. but I am running out of options and need guidance, so at my work we use wifi certificates for laptops, on the laptop I create a certificate request that I then submit to the windows CA via a browser and then manually download and "install" the certificate on the laptop. everything works perfectly. now, how do I [09:19] automate that process. I want to be able to automate the part of sending the certificate request to windows CA and getting back the Wifi-certificate to the laptop. I have googled for hours, but all guides are basic and stops at the "manual" posting, and download part. === WildSoft_ is now known as WildSoft [10:12] is memtest still broken on 21.10? [10:15] I am running 21.10 and Kernel 5.13.0-30-generic, but I don't seem to have this rename utility installed: https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/impish/man2/rename.2.html Does anyone know how I can get it? It appears that it should be included with the kernel, but I can't find it or any packages that include it seemingly anywhere... [10:27] !info rename [10:27] rename (1.13-1, impish): Perl extension for renaming multiple files. In component universe, is optional. Built by rename. Size 17 kB / 48 kB [10:27] this what you seek willcl_ark ^ [10:35] lotuspsychje: really that looks like something totally different ? [10:38] it is exactly what you sent us [10:39] sybariten: hey did you fix the pc? i got dc yesterday, ups battery ran out [10:40] hi [10:40] hello [10:40] ubuntu. [10:58] lotuspsychje: I really think you are mistaken here. The programs look totally different? Your package also does not install `renameat` and `renameat2` which my linked one purports to. One is c, one is perl. Your perl one seems to be focussed on changing file names rather than atomically renaming via unlink and new symlink to new inode... [11:01] !info renameat [11:01] Package renameat does not exist in impish [11:08] willcl_ark: your link refers to the C function rename. it is not a standalone util. example code: https://www.tutorialspoint.com/c_standard_library/c_function_rename.htm [11:20] I have confirmed memtest86 is still broken in 21.10 [11:20] pretty annoying [11:23] Heston, memtest for UEFI machines? [11:23] known issue, use memtest iso from their site [11:24] its not even uefi. i known its known but its been known for a couple years [11:24] oh standard memtest works fine, no idea [11:26] I wonder if 20.04.4 has it patched [11:27] which version? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memtest86+ [11:30] 5.01 but i dont know if there's an updated point release [11:33] yeah i doubt it's updated, 20.04.4 is using a patch from 2020 when it was discovered [11:39] Heston: check if your bug is on the recent added bugs yet? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memtest86+/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0 [11:42] Hello, I have old wireless usb adapter its philips SNU6600 and the computer could not recognize it [11:43] lsusb output : Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0471:1235 Philips (or NXP) AR552 [11:43] wich kernel are you on Guest500 [11:44] 5.13 [11:44] Guest500: you might wanna try other kernel tests, see what the module does there [11:45] module empty : Port 1: Dev 5, If 0, Class=Vendor Specific Class, Driver=, 480M [11:46] also dmesg output : [ 322.768663] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 5 using xhci_hcd [11:46] [ 322.920549] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0471, idProduct=1235, bcdDevice= 0.01 [11:46] [ 322.920560] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [11:46] [ 322.920564] usb 1-1: Product: AR5523 [11:46] [ 322.920566] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Atheros Communications Inc [11:46] think i've solved an AR chipset once, installing !HWE [11:46] [ 322.920569] usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 1.0 [11:46] !paste | Guest500 use a [11:46] Guest500 use a: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [11:47] Ok alright. [11:49] I think it has x32 system drive in windows but cannot find x64 in linux [11:50] Guest500: try a few tests with ubuntu release from our topic, see if you can make it work on another kernel, or more advanced play with !mainline kernels [11:51] how I can make another kernel? [11:53] Guest500: you are not supposed to make another kernel, just do some tests with other ubuntu releases, !HWE or !mainline [11:54] For example this hardware for oldsystems, which kernel versions should I prefer? [12:08] Is there any pro who can help me on dm? === vit is now known as Guest5584 [12:41] i get recent asus laptop with 12 hours battery life, but in real test it stay only for 5-6 hours without high load, any idea? [12:42] EriC^^: whoa how does that work, with your UPS? They are generally rather big things arent they [12:43] ice9: google for results other users have with it. tests of the product? [12:44] EriC^^: hmmm no not solved it yet. Since you mentioned i should check that i'm booting in UEFI mode and not , uh, legacy BIOS, i looked around for this in my BIOS but there really are no obviuos UEFI settings. Its weird. Dunno if you saw my gallery of bios pics there [12:44] sybariten: it's a smaller one made for just pc's [12:44] EriC^^: but you need this, cause you have power dropouts sometimes or what? [12:44] sybariten: if you want you could install grub-pc and let it try to boot in legacy mode [12:45] sybariten: yeah exactly, electricity is on/off alot here (lebanon [12:45] sybariten: if you want boot the live usb again to chroot and try to get it to boot in legacy mode [12:46] sybariten: btw it might be also a good idea to first reset the bios to default settings in case that helps, it might just do it [12:54] EriC^^: hm, could you explain this again please. I boot off the USB distro as usual, go into the terminal set up the mounts as yesterday, chroot to the mounted dirs, and then what? [12:55] I mean how do i differ between legacy or UEFI at all when i do something now [12:57] EriC^^: oh i see, interesting, I've been wanting to go to Beirut for quite a while now [13:01] sybariten: i'd try honestly to reset bios first, it might just need some reset, after you chroot basically you create a 1-2MB partition (you have like 500mb free at the end of your disk iirc) create it then for the partition type enter 'ef02' which designates it as a bios_boot, then install grub-pc and use grub-pc --target=i386-pc /dev/sda to install grub in legacy mode to the gpt partition table+bios_boot, and then you can boot in both modes [13:01] *grub-install --target=...../dev/sda [13:04] hi all, im completely stuck with a server machine containing 2 5218R Xeons. The CPUs are stuck on 800Mhz. I have searched the internet and tried putting performance governor, then tried disabling disabling intel_pstate and manually enforcing a clock freq, I attempted to disable the PROCHOT thing but im not sure if I did it right [13:05] im running a stress on all cores now and temperatures are between 34 and 46 degrees [13:06] im running out of ideas. I dont know if its the BIOS or the OS, in IPMI it claims that the current speed is 2100Mhz but I dont know if I should trust that [13:09] Xeonvl: watch -n1 "grep \"^[c]pu MHz\" /proc/cpuinfo" [13:09] what does that output for you? [13:12] EriC^^: sorry, listening to a lecture about data network technology... brb [13:24] all cores emit 799-800Mhz Ravage [13:29] Xeonvl: printf "$(cat /etc/os-release)\n$(uname -a)\n" | nc termbin.com 9999 [13:31] https://termbin.com/tyfn [13:31] !hwe [13:31] The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [13:31] try to use the HWE kernel. maybe even hwe-edge [13:32] the latest available version should be 5.13 [13:32] ok ill give it a try, first time I go on a kernel ride on ubuntu [13:32] dfsvb [13:33] https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/linux-generic-hwe-20.04 [13:33] thats the package you want [13:33] jep, installing [13:33] 20.04, i want Chromium, i tried installing it as `apt install chromium-browser` and it's been hanging for a long time on 20% "2022-03-07T14:30:59+01:00 INFO Waiting for automatic snapd restart..." [13:34] gonna take a moment, ill get back when up and running and rebooted [13:34] ahh nvm it just finished! [13:42] Ravage Linux schmidhuber 5.13.0-30-generic #33~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 7 14:25:10 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [13:43] ow... i think euh [13:43] so far so good. any changes about your cpu speeds? [13:43] well... checking, the command you gave me now gives 2100 for all cores [13:44] but in i7z they are still at 800 [13:44] i dont know what i7z is but my command outputs the currently running core speed [13:44] fwiw a lot of intel cpus "sleep" at 800mhz - a core that isn't really doing anything runs at 800 [13:44] so you should be fine [13:44] i think it may be fixed [13:44] because your command is giving me a nice mix [13:45] some are at 800, some arent [13:45] mix is good. the cores clock down when idle [13:45] im gonna ask one of the guys to drop one of his spark bombs on the machine which led us to discover the issue [13:45] because they were executing faster on a 6 core cpu from 2013 [14:03] we are going to try and test this evening, thanks nonetheless! [14:04] I have a feeling its probably solved [14:26] Hi folks, I set up cross-compile linux enivironment for backpors module but there is make error "Kernel version parse failed" [14:28] How I can solve this error? Backports version : 4.4.2.1 [14:36] hi all [14:36] scortal here [14:45] Ravage there is one strange thing, if the system is idle, all cores show up at 2100mhz. when we put a stress on it for every thread (80) the cpu is capable of, they all show up as 800 [14:45] I expected the opposite :) === JoeBk_ is now known as JoeBk [15:02] Xeonvl: echo ondemand | tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor [15:02] You can try this and see if it changes the behavior [15:05] Ravage i only have performance / powersafe governors [15:05] Ravage i only have performance / powersafe governors available [15:06] Try powersafe then [15:06] EriC^^: sorry, had a bit of an intense lecture there.... so i should start by going into bios and trying to reset it, right? And see if even that helps, perhaps [15:06] If you don't pay the power bill performance should be ok though :) [15:08] EriC^^: and then if not, boot into usb memory, mount the partitions like yesterday and then chroot ... and use the most basic partition tools to create a partition at the end of my disk space. Choose type ef02 . But how do i install grub-pc? Or that's something i install into my running system, via apt? [15:08] still, watch -n1 "grep \"^[c]pu MHz\" /proc/cpuinfo" gives me 2.1ghz when doing nothing [15:08] but if i load the cores they run slower [15:09] It's possible they clock down when they get too hot [15:09] EriC^^: ....and, if i have that, a simple "grub-pc --target=i386-pc /dev/sda" is enough to get the right things in place for a boot, hgopefully? [15:09] no throttling in dmesg, and the hottest < 50 degress [15:10] hi [15:10] scortal here [15:10] EriC^^: the command seems to adress the whole disk (volume?) ... what will happen if i try to run that , but the aforementioned partition creating wasnt succesful? [15:14] also cpufreq-info claims they all run 800mhz all the time [15:15] its getting hard to know what they are al doing heh [15:17] ran the same test on another machine and there the values i get are more dynamic for the cores [15:17] here in idle they all run perfectly 2100 mhz [15:17] its a bit odd :p [15:20] following package is down: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/expat/libexpat1-dev_2.2.5-3ubuntu0.2_amd64.deb is this a bug? [15:25] sybariten: you're correct on all fronts [15:26] sybariten: you could use gdisk/cgdisk to create the partition, if you dont create it, then grub-install would fail as gpt doesnt have a place to put grub's loader like mbr [15:27] EriC^^: i see [15:27] i think i will give this a shot [15:28] zen_coder, Superseded : https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/amd64/libexpat1-dev/2.2.5-3ubuntu0.2 [15:28] zen_coder: try "apt update" [15:28] EriC^^: but what is essentially the reason for chrooting, i mean lets say in this specific case. As long as a disk is physically connected to my PC, i could still create new partitions to them right? [15:29] well okay, maybe grub-pc would be a bit confuised cause it wants to operate in its "root environment" or something....? [15:30] sybariten: yeah, exactly, it's to install grub-pc, when you chroot this time you'll want to do "for i in /dev /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -R $i /media/newhd$i' done" so you have internet access in the chroot for apt [15:30] if it says grub-pc is already installed do apt-get install --reinstall, since it was whining about i386-pc libs yesterday [15:31] sybariten: missed a ";" before done in the line above, but you get the idea, add "/run" [15:34] EriC^^: you already mentioned /run in the for loop though ? [15:39] scortal here [15:39] scortal: please stop [15:39] sybariten: oh ok, thought i didnt put it yesterday [15:52] Ravage we are going to run some workloads and time. the numbers coming out of the tools to monitor clock speed are highly confusing [15:53] you mentioned perhaps trying hwe-edge? would that be the next thing if its somehow still running on 800 mhz? [16:01] I think edge is also 5.13 [16:01] No difference at the moment [16:02] You can try to setup 22.04 if the system is not super important [16:02] I see, hm. its really odd, cpufreq-info claims its still down. /proc/cpuinfo doesnt [16:02] but it has really weird behavior compared to what i would expect and what other machines do [16:02] That comes with 5.15 and is the next LTS release next month [16:02] can we simply check with a live cd? [16:03] Yes sure [16:03] There are daily builds [16:03] hmm then ill think we'll try that tomorrow [16:03] its not that the setup is already super complicated but the machine is already in ldap etc [16:03] https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [16:04] thanks, ill be off now but get back and report how it goes [16:04] But go to #ubuntu-next for bug reports about that :) [16:04] Good luck :) [16:12] I have a formmail script on my server and it isn't working. I suppose its the permissions. I have them at 755. Is that wrong? [16:25] Hello. I have an Ubuntu Server here that I am trying to extend the disk space of a particular partition. On this server, I have sda partions 1 through 5. sda2 is not the lask partition on the disk and I need to extend that partition. [16:26] What is the proper way to do this? I do not have LVM in use on this server. [16:26] the boot volume is sda4 [16:26] root is sda5 [16:30] FastZ, do this from a live iso, partitions must not be mounted [16:31] also do you have free space next to that partition? fdisk-l would show sector numbers [16:36] I've tried multiple permissions, but I can't get the formmail script to work. It was just a minor update to one that worked fine before, but ownership and permissions changed when I reuploaded... [16:39] FastZ: can you pastebin 'sudo parted -ls' output? [16:40] Thanks oerheks, I am in gparted in a live ISO. The free space is at the end of the disk (this is a VM). The partition order from left to right is sda2, sda3, sda4, sda5, free space. I need to add the free space to sda2. [16:40] EriC^^: unfortunately, i cannot since I'm on a separate computer. [16:41] FastZ: does the vm have internet access? [16:41] it does not [16:42] ok, well in gparted you would have to move sda3 and sda4 and sda5 to the right of the disk, so the free space becomes next to sda2, then extend it and its fs [16:42] let me try that. [16:42] i'd backup the vm before doing any moving operations on it [16:43] alright have snapshots made [16:44] already, that is. [16:53] hi === ubuntu is now known as Guest5925 [16:54] 1 [16:54] ) [16:54] cull thing [16:54] cool [16:54] * [16:57] is there a button I can press in ubuntu to quit xorg and go to login screen [16:59] <|san|> Hello folks [16:59] I'm in a window manager. i want to go to the login screen (gdm?) and switch to ubuntu. i can go from gnome to wm but i don't know how to do that from wm to gnome. [17:00] dirtcastle, just logout? [17:00] in terminal? [17:00] <|san|> Im playing around with a dial up server with asterisk, and i've setup ufw and a masquerade, but having trouble with ufw blocking something it shouldn't. [17:00] dirtcastle: CTRL+ALT+F2 [17:00] <|san|> is there anyway to interpret from the following: [17:00] <|san|> [UFW BLOCK] IN=enp6s0 OUT= MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00 SRC=192.168.1.12 DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=200 TOS=0x18 PREC=0xA0 TTL=250 ID=10692 PROTO=UDP SPT=16384 DPT=13056 LEN=180 [17:00] dirtcastle: that doesn't kill the Desktop though, it's still running [17:01] <|san|> what i should add in ufw to not block this?` [17:01]