[04:16] <kepler8472> Hello! Would this be a good place to ask about Ubuntu Advantage for FIPS mode enablement on Ubuntu Server?
[06:08] <cpaelzer> good morning
[06:17] <cpaelzer> lvoytek: swtpm is being MIRed already, so I thought the quote on the FFe was not a perfect match
[06:18] <cpaelzer> lvoytek: I have updated the description with this and a bit more - see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/swtpm/+bug/1950631/+activity
[06:18] <cpaelzer> lvoytek: thanks for the ping, I hope this helps to get it accepted in the first try
[07:35] <maret> If I reduce vm.swappiness, when should (if it should) ubuntu server reduce it's swap? Now it still full even though I have around 30% of free RAM.
[07:39] <maret> or maybe I could run swapoff -a , if its safe
[07:56] <JanC> it should swap into RAM when that memory is actually used, I suppose, so why care?
[07:57] <JanC> are you having an actual problem with it?
[07:57] <maret> well in my case i have 30 GB of free ram and swap at 12 out of 12
[07:57] <maret> seems ineffecient and I am running temporary intensive process which I would like to speed up as much as possible
[07:58] <maret> afaik swapoff should be safe to run
[07:58] <JanC> if it doesn't get swapped into RAM, it means it isn't being used?
[07:58] <JanC> you could do that, but it would probably swap unused stuff into RAM?
[07:59] <JanC> meaning you'd have less free RAM for whatever you're doing?
[07:59] <maret> good point, not sure to be honest, maybe I am reading / thinking about swap wrong
[08:01] <JanC> generally, when RAM is getting full, RAM that is not used (often) gets moved to swap
[08:04] <JanC> it might even be memory that will be never used again (e.g. because it "leaked" because of programming bugs)
[08:04] <maret> yeah but my RAM is not getting full 
[08:04] <maret> so I don't see much of benefit of using swap with 30 GB of free memory
[08:04] <maret> I mean at worst I can turn it back on
[08:07] <JanC> you can always test what works best: with or without swap...
[08:24] <mirespace> good morning
[08:38] <utkarsh2102> mirespace: o/
[08:40] <mirespace> :)
[10:14] <MJCD> is there an init script style area that can't be avoided/aborted by the user/someone else?
[11:44] <ahasenack> morning
[11:58] <hornbill> fating a very strange issue with an ubuntu-server-20.04... attempting to configure apache2 with php7.4.. 
[11:59] <hornbill> all default ubuntu packages.. for some reason php is not getting executed.. doing a curl gives me the source code.
[11:59] <hornbill> a2query -m php7.4 -----output ----> php7.4 (enabled by maintainer script)
[12:00] <hornbill> no php configs are changed / modified.. 
[12:01] <hornbill> https://pastebin.com/zeJeNukL
[12:02] <hornbill> test.php uploaded in /var/www/html... but this is not executing..
[12:02] <Ravage> a2enmod php7.4
[12:02] <Ravage> ?
[12:02] <hornbill> yes.. already done.. 
[12:03] <hornbill> https://pastebin.com/QsAHWFwA
[12:03] <Ravage> and what about the php5 conflict?
[12:03] <Ravage> did you upgrade from 18.04?
[12:04] <Ravage> removed the old packages?
[12:04] <hornbill> nope.. this is a brand new linode ubuntu 20.04
[12:04] <Ravage> not sure what they do to the poor ubuntu images
[12:05] <Ravage> does php come preinstalled there?
[12:05] <hornbill> hmm. i don't think its to do with them honestly.. i did spin a new node same OS etc, and its working.. 
[12:05] <hornbill> no, i had to install it myself.. 
[12:06] <Ravage> if the new node works... is it much work to copy stuff over?
[12:06] <hornbill> :D -- well.. i can.. its a new setup.. but wanted to find out what is going on.
[12:06] <Ravage> im sure it can also be fixed but that will require some debug work
[12:07] <Ravage> and if its a new node anyway maybe spare everyone a headache and use the new one? :)
[12:08] <hornbill> :-(
[12:09] <hornbill> i reinstalled libapache2-mod-php, apache2 - purged infact.. and still its the same.
[12:18] <ahasenack> apache loads many config files from many directories. Maybe you have one such file undoing something a previous one did
[12:19] <ahasenack> maybe you are missing what assigns the .php extension to the module
[13:27] <athos> hornbill: would you mind filing a bug in launchpad?
[13:30] <sdeziel> hornbill: dunno if it's related but I find it unusual to have both php7.4-fpm and libapache2-mod-php7.4
[13:33] <hornbill> athos, i can do that.. but im not able to reproduce it.. 
[13:34] <athos> oh :/
[13:35] <hornbill> im being lucky for having this in just this server :-) all others are well... 
[13:35] <hornbill> hence im inclined to think about a mistake i have done.. but not able to figure it out
[13:39] <hornbill> im purging all apache, php packages and going to reinstall them againn
[13:40] <hornbill> sdeziel, hopefully that will help to find if they are related
[13:44] <sdeziel> good, let us know how it goes ;)
[13:51] <hornbill> no change.. 
[13:51] <hornbill> https://pastebin.com/RKFYJdwk
[13:51] <hornbill> apache modules loaded
[13:51] <hornbill> https://pastebin.com/b04baqPd
[13:53] <sdeziel> hornbill: please pastebin `grep -rF Handler /etc/apache2`
[13:53] <hornbill> i will bang my head somewhere.. its my fault.. PHP tags were WRONG... 
[13:53] <sdeziel> oh :)
[13:54] <hornbill> :-( so embarassing.. sorry guys.. things are working as expected.. 
[13:54] <hornbill> thank you for your efforts.. and sorry for the trouble.. not in my senses.. 
[13:55] <sdeziel> hornbill: well, it's a good reminder (for me at least) to check the basis first :)
[14:03] <ahasenack> what did you mean php "tags"?
[14:03] <ahasenack> did you see that in the output of the grep command sdeziel suggested?
[14:04] <sdeziel> I would think it was a bogus/missing "<?php" but I'm only guessing
[14:44] <hornbill> ahasenack, sdeziel yes.. missing <?
[15:36] <sergiodj> this grafana snap update is giving me a hard time
[18:42] <goddard> how do i find the oom score for a service?
[18:46] <sarnold> goddard: try grep . /proc/self/oom*
[19:40] <rbasak> grep .> ooh, that's a nice trick. Thank you!
[19:40] <rbasak> (TIL)
[19:42] <sarnold> I learned it from someone else on irc in the last few years. it's amazing just what's still available to learn :)
[19:56] <goddard> :D thanks
[22:36] <bryceh> @athos, give me a holler if you have questions/comments on those php packages.  I'm going to try to spend the afternoon on figuring out how to disentangle php-twig
[22:38] <bryceh> also if you spot errors in autopkgtest logs mentioning Symfony/blah function(x) is incompatible with Whatever/blah function(string x), those indicate errors actually in the symfony package.  Let me know if you spot those, I'm working on a symfony update to include fixes for those types of issues.