[01:26] <DSdavidDS> Anyone here have experience with netplan on ubuntu? I'm noticing that all my manual ip configurations get cleared whenever I replug my ethernet (bringing the ethlink down and up). It's almost like I ran "netplan apply" but I can't tell if this is a feature or bug
[01:28] <leftyfb> DSdavidDS: do you have a desktop installed on the machine?
[01:28] <DSdavidDS> @leftyfb Yes I do
[01:29] <DSdavidDS> leftyfb: whoops forgot how to ping on irc for a second there
[01:29] <leftyfb> DSdavidDS: then you should be using the network manager the DE comes with, not messing with netplan
[01:30] <DSdavidDS> What's the point of netplan's yaml file configuraiton then?
[01:30] <leftyfb> DSdavidDS: for the DE's network manager to manage
[01:31] <leftyfb> DSdavidDS: if you're running stock ubuntu (gnome shell) then just use Network Manager in your network settings to set your network info
[01:31] <DSdavidDS> My environment isn't for a daily driver btw. I am developing this OS to communicate with some raspberry pi's so I need some interfaces to have static IPs
[01:32] <leftyfb> DSdavidDS: ok, use network manager
[01:32] <DSdavidDS> can I do so through commandline?
[01:32] <DSdavidDS> I have two different network configurations I switch between
[01:33] <leftyfb> DSdavidDS: if you're going to do everything through the command line then why did you install a desktop environment?
[01:33] <oerheks> make 2 profiles in networkmanager?
[01:33] <leftyfb> ^
[01:33] <leftyfb> DSdavidDS: you could then use nmcli to switch between profiles
[01:33] <DSdavidDS> Enduser uses a desktop environment. I am automating the interface setup with a script
[01:35] <DSdavidDS> I also have a side project to create a live ubuntu image that will have a preconfigured yaml file to modify netplan. I don't see the need to rely on network manager here
[01:35] <oerheks> good luck with your projects
[01:35] <DSdavidDS> thanks!
[01:40] <DSdavidDS> my understanding was that netplan replaces /etc/network/interfaces which hands off all of the frontend work to network manager
[01:40] <sarnold> It Depends; netplan either hands off to networkmanager, or it can write systemd-networkd configuration files
[01:41] <leftyfb> DSdavidDS: in a desktop environment, by default you use the GUI network manager that your DE comes with
[01:41] <sarnold> if you generally want static configs, you'd want to use it to write the systemd-networkd configs. if you're running a "typical laptop / desktop" system, you'd probablyprefer the networkmanager config instead
[01:42] <DSdavidDS> Okay. I've worked on headless raspberry pi's quite a bit so I was used to modifying /etc/network/interfaces
[01:43] <leftyfb> DSdavidDS: if this were headless (no Desktop) you would use netplan
[01:43] <DSdavidDS> so say I were using headless ubuntu: I am doing the right thing netplan?
[01:43] <DSdavidDS> got it, thanks for clarifying that
[01:44] <sarnold> yeah my headless rpi is using netplan :)
[01:44] <DSdavidDS> so back to my original question: Is netplan (or network manager in this case) supposed to reset my ip configurations to default when a ethernet link goes down and back up?
[01:45] <Bashing-om> !netplan | DSdavidDS
[01:45] <leftyfb> DSdavidDS: yes, because NM manages it, not you.
[01:45] <DSdavidDS> ubottu: thanks, I am quite familiar with their site :)
[01:46] <DSdavidDS> okay, well that clarifies what's been going on. You guys are awesome
[01:47] <DSdavidDS> sarnold: is that part of rasbian or did you load ubuntu on it?
[01:48] <leftyfb> DSdavidDS: I have Ubuntu running on several pi's, all running netplan
[01:48] <sarnold> DSdavidDS: ubuntu
[02:31] <CeeClear> Ollo
[02:32] <sarnold> hello
[02:33] <CeeClear> Hi Sarnold. Hope the day is going well. Also hoping someone can help me with the monsoon of Ubuntu problems I have today
[02:34] <jd_> Hi. I want to make my pop_os look like elementary os, but I don't want to install Pantheon. I have searched for a theme without luck. Do someone know any?
[02:35] <sarnold> jd_: you should ask in a pop_os support forum; folks here know ubuntu, not pop_os
[02:36] <jd_> sarnold: That is fair but looks like there are no pop_os channels on libera chat. A theme for ubuntu should work for pop_os.
[02:37] <jd_> I won't ask again here.
[02:37] <sarnold> no channels for pop_os? bummer :( irc's the best place to get help with things. sigh. good luck :)
[02:37] <CeeClear> So sarnold what I hope is a quick fix. In trying to fix other problems now my display is stuck in military time. I have tried to change it in details but highlighting AM/PM seems to do nothing
[02:38] <jd_> Thanks :)
[02:38] <CeeClear> Good Luck Jd_
[02:38] <jd_> Thanks CeeClear :)
[02:40] <sarnold> CeeClear: sorry, I'm not very familiar with the gui things. I got *very* upset when the output of my 'date -u' commands switched from 24-hour time to 12 hour am/pm time recently, and found a workaround with setting the LC_TIME variable..
[02:41] <sarnold> CeeClear: but it sounds like you would prefer the thing that my local switched *to*, so... heh
[02:43] <CeeClear> I have had a long and winding road with Ubuntu today. trying to fix a brasero bug led to having to use fsck which led to being unable to change my background or the time setting
[02:43] <CeeClear> ahhh.......
[02:43] <CeeClear> So did you do the manual switch for time setting sarnold ???
[02:48] <sarnold> CeeClear: I did, but since i don't really use a DE it was pretty straightforward, I just needed to set the environment variable in my shell startup scripts and when starting my i3bar ..
[02:48] <sarnold> CeeClear: it probably wouldn't work that easily if you've got a full gnome thing going on :(
[02:49] <CeeClear> yeah I use gnome environment cause its easy
[02:49] <CeeClear> any tips on a stuck background or the Brasero bug ??
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> CeeClear: check the recent brasero bugs ; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> CeeClear: if your case isnt there, file a new !bug
[02:51] <sarnold> if you run journalctl -f  in a terminal when running brasero or changing the background, do you get any errors or warnings or something?
[02:52] <CeeClear> They have my bug but couldn't find a solution
[02:52] <sarnold> what bug number?
[02:53] <CeeClear> lotus psyche. thanks for that tip: this is what came up
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> bug #763543 ?
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> thats ages old
[02:54] <CeeClear> Mar 10 21:50:43 update-notifier[2444]: failed to commit changes to dconf: GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._g_2dfile_2derror_2dquark.Code17: Cannot open dconf database: invalid gvdb header
[02:54] <sarnold> oh that sounds bad
[02:56] <CeeClear> lotuspsychje this was the bug message. BraseroLibburn SCSI error condition on command 2Ah WRITE(10): See MMC specs: Sense Key 5 "Illegal request", ASC 21 ASCQ 04.
[02:56] <sarnold> dconf is kind of like the windows registry, if you're familiar with that.. it's way less important to the overall system, but very important to the applications that use it. you could probably move your dconf database out of the way, log out, log in, and probably then could set the background and change the time
[02:57] <CeeClear> Thank you sarnold. How would I proceed about moving the dconf datebase ???
[02:58] <CeeClear> forgive me for being a newbie and thanks for all the help
[02:59] <sarnold> CeeClear: try this: mv ~/.config/dconf ~/.config/dconf-backup   ; then logout, log in again.
[02:59] <sarnold> CeeClear: (I'm hoping and guessing that the gnome tools will recreate this in a happy state when you login and it doesn't exist where it expects to find it..)
[03:00] <CeeClear> Will do. Give me a second to try and then log back into hexchat with the results
[03:05] <kinghat> i run vscode from the snap store and firefox from flatpak, why would vscode open links in firefox but in like a blank empty profile and not the regular/default one? my other snaps open links normally.
[03:05] <CeeClear> It worked !!!!
[03:07] <CeeClear> any advice on the brasero bug ???
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> CeeClear: you didnt pass us the bug ID yet
[03:09] <sarnold> CeeClear: sweet :)
[03:14] <CeeClear> I wasn't able to find a bug error message for it at the brasero site but this discussion of it at  launchpad.net
[03:14] <CeeClear> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/397412
[03:16] <sarnold> it's been thirteen years, you should probably file a new bug if you're still hitting it
[03:16] <CeeClear> yeah
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> CeeClear: create a LP account, then ubuntu-bug brasero from your terminal to file one
[03:24] <xtacie> sorry for the late hour but ive been beating my head over this.. i have an ubuntu 20.04 vps i put ufw and fail2ban on fine... i was trying to setup PSAD via apt and tried downloading the tar and running the perl installer.. i can get the psad to run without any errors nagging BUT its not picking up traffic no matter how much i scan. i was hoping someone had a moment to help
[03:25] <CeeClear> Thank you Lotuspsycheje and sarnold. Just did that and filed the bug report
[03:25] <sarnold> CeeClear: what number?
[03:26] <CeeClear>  Bug #1964554
[03:26] <sarnold> xtacie: is your iptables logging things?
[03:27] <xtacie> ive set iptables -L
[03:28] <sarnold> CeeClear: hmm I thougth MMC was a memory card thing; are you sure you've selected the right device?
[03:28] <xtacie> ive added it to the before.rules file the 2 lines before commit
[03:28] <xtacie> ive literally read over a dozen different guides
[03:28] <oerheks> like this guide? https://www.libellux.com/psad/#firewall-settings
[03:29] <xtacie> and its onlu this server.. my others, i have a hardening script i run that installs/configs and dont have no prob
[03:30] <sarnold> NeoFAT32: any chance you can fix your connection?
[03:30] <xtacie> yeah thats the 2nd to last tut i went over
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> CeeClear: please run; apport-collect 1964554 from your terminal now
[03:31] <xtacie> i feel like my config may be off and psad process is reading the wrong file.. i thought ufw/iptable events goto syslog
[03:32] <sarnold> xtacie: it's definitley worthwhile to go one step at a time (a) make sure your iptables is rejecting thing (b) make sure it's logging them (c) make sure it's logging them where you expect (d) make sure psad is reading them from where you expect, etc
[03:32] <xtacie> how can i see where firewall events are logged to
[03:32] <xtacie> im running ufw, ive set rules.. its enabled and logging aswell
[03:32] <xtacie> i can scan them externally to verify the rules are working
[03:33] <sarnold> journalctl -f maybe, or tail -F /var/log/*  maybe, something like that
[03:34] <xtacie> i tried lnav
[03:34] <xtacie> i can see events in /var/logs/psad/fwdata
[03:34] <CeeClear> just did that. Thank you very much for the assistance lotuspsychje
[03:34] <xtacie> maybe change config from syslog to that log
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> CeeClear: that ddid not drag your proper info in the bug, thats just a bionic tag now
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> oh wait, worked now
[03:36] <sarnold> hah it only added two files. not real helpful.. heh
[03:36] <sarnold> wow that's uncanny
[03:37] <xtacie> @saranoid so if i run sudo dmesg
[03:37] <xtacie> i can see firewall logs
[03:37] <sarnold> xtacie: nice, good start, that means that's probably working
[03:37] <xtacie> im also running wazuh agent on this machine.. not sure if maybe it is redirecting log saves
[03:39] <sarnold> hopefully they would have configured rsyslog to duplicate if necessary, or something like that..
[03:39] <xtacie> :o rsylog i think i remember hearing something about that last night
[03:44] <xtacie> sarnoid: sorry to bother you.. any idea on how can i grep search the entire drive to find a file containting the ufw block log i can see when i run sudo dmesg?
[03:44] <xtacie> not even sure if thats an option  but id imagine if i can track down the log to a file it might help
[03:45] <xtacie> ossec is installed
[03:45] <sarnold> xtacie: dmesg reads data directly from the kernel memory
[03:46] <sarnold> xtacie: dmesg doesn't read those off disk anywhere
[03:46] <sarnold> xtacie: journalctl and rsyslog can also read from the kernel dmesg buffer; journalctl's logs are in binary forms that can't easily be grepped; rsyslog uses /var/log by default but you can configure it in dozens of ways..
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> CeeClear: try an ubuntu 20.04, see if you can reproduce that brasero bug there?
[03:48] <CeeClear> lotuspsychje I don't currently have ubuntu 20.04 installed
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> just a proposal CeeClear
[03:50] <xtacie> sarnoid: btw, thank you for taking the time to help me.. your helping me narrow this down
[03:50] <CeeClear> I guess its time to install it.
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> CeeClear: the quickest way to help your own bugs, is when help doing tests yourself aswell, wich helps the devs/community
[03:54] <xtacie> journalctl runs from /bin ???
[03:54] <CeeClear> Alright off for the nite. Thank you lotuspsychje and sarnold for all your help
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> welcome CeeClear and good luck!
[03:58] <sarnold> xtacie: hah, try namei -l `which journalctl`
[04:01] <jhutchins> sarnold: What does that tell you that plain "which journalctl" doesn't?
[04:01] <sarnold> jhutchins: I'm guessing it'll show a /bin -> /usr/bin symlink
[04:01] <sarnold> jhutchins: not every ubuntu system has one of those.. but that's my guess
[04:04] <jhutchins> Hm, not a symlink here.
[04:05] <jhutchins> Ok, handy for alternatives, I traced vim.
[04:06] <jhutchins> Now if I can remember it until I actually need it...
[04:07] <sarnold> it took me ages to remember it ;) I just sort of filed it away with the "an ancient unix kernel internal function name", but there's dozens of those, so it didn't really help..
[04:07] <sarnold> vim's an excellent choice for showing it, heh
[04:07] <xtacie> f: /bin/journalctl
[04:07] <xtacie> drwxrwxr-x root root /
[04:07] <xtacie> drwxr-xr-x root root bin
[04:07] <xtacie> -rwxr-xr-x root root journalctl
[04:08] <sarnold> huh, so it is. :)
[04:16] <xtacie> lol im about to scrap this whole server and start fresh
[04:16] <sarnold> heh, that frustrating? or just to start with a clean slate?
[04:16] <xtacie> its just pissing me off
[04:16] <xtacie> and its not my build
[04:17] <xtacie> its a seedbox i got for free for a few months that was put together like crap
[04:18] <xtacie> ive got a mix of google cloud, vult and linode machines.. none of which are giving me this amount of hell
[04:20] <sarnold> heh, that does sound like it might not be worth it
[04:24] <xtacie> i think i may know what it is!
[04:24] <sarnold> ooh? :)
[04:24] <xtacie> the log prefix!!!!
[04:25] <Whiskey`> Ok I am going insane here. Ive got a asrock sbc that just did some updates, and bluetooth has quit. ive checked all the obvious, rfkill, etc. the devices are seen, modules are loaded, no errors showing, just 'device unknown' in the bt gui.
[04:28] <xtacie> sarnold: just realized i was saying your name wrong
[04:28] <xtacie> sarnold: this one is for you.. purging and removing via the .pl script gonna try something different
[04:28] <Whiskey`> is there anything known in the latest updates that would change how bt has been working
[04:29] <sarnold> xtacie: heh, say it however you like ;)
[04:29] <sarnold> Whiskey`: nothing immediately comes to mind, I don't recall seeing an influx of bt problems lately either :(
[04:32] <Whiskey`> sarnold: yea its kinda odd. very frustrating as this is one of my tv displays so the kb/m/remote which are bt, dont work
[04:33] <sarnold> Whiskey`: oh that's *important* :(
[04:35] <Whiskey`> Hey, I dont watch much tv but when i do, its cause i have 5 min off from work
[04:36] <Whiskey`> this specific setup also has the inputs from my network monitors
[04:50] <xtacie> lol
[04:50] <xtacie> dunno what im doing wrong
[04:51] <wez> Whiskey`: Was the nick Whisky taken?
[04:53] <enigma9o7[m]> I don't drink much beer but when I do, its dos equis.
[04:53] <Alpha[m]> Interesting...
[04:54] <Whiskey`> wez: Im american, Thanks. And thats my alt
[05:31] <Swift110-mobile> sup folks
[05:41] <xtacie> sarnold: question for you
[05:42] <xtacie> in /etc/rsyslog.d/ folder i see 3 .conf files 10- 20- 50-
[05:46] <carnophage2> hi swift
[05:48] <xtacie> hey
[06:05] <Swift110-mobile> how are you carnophage2 and xtacie ?
[06:05] <Swift110-mobile> sorry for the late reply
[06:13] <carnophage2> just about to go to sleep
[06:18] <xtacie> still beating my head against this terminal
[06:19] <xtacie> had to go grab a beer
[06:28] <Whisky`> xtacie: trade ya
[06:28] <xtacie> lol what.. the beer or the server
[06:28] <Whisky`> bluetooth issues
[06:28] <xtacie> ive got a 12 pack of each
[06:28] <wez> xtacie: Ditto, cheers!
[06:29] <xtacie> Whisky are you using an aio min pci card w/ wifi and bluettoh
[06:29] <xtacie> of the intel chipset
[06:29] <wez> Whisky`: I like this nick better :P  It implies Scottish goodness
[06:30] <Whisky`> xtacie: its a asrock sbc, rtl bt and a usb bt too
[06:30] <wez> With an 8 year minimum to be considered Whisky
[06:30] <xtacie> oh one of thosemobos with onboard wifi/tooth
[06:31] <Whisky`> xtacie: honestly i dont know, never had a reason to dicker with this unit
[06:31] <xtacie> do you know the exact mobo model and board revision?
[06:32] <xtacie> lol is it a whiskeylake
[06:32] <wez> I hope not
[06:33] <Whisky`> worse, atom
[06:33] <Whisky`> its just a display head
[06:33] <wez> a whiskyloch would be better :)
[06:33] <Whisky`> runs 2x 4k 65" screens
[06:33] <xtacie> sbc-210d??
[06:33] <Whisky`> xtacie: im looking, but really, lspci should be nuff
[06:34] <xtacie> is it an mitx/industrial type board?
[06:35] <Whisky`> no its one of them little pc boxes
[06:35] <Whisky`> RTL8821AE wifi and rtl 0bda:0821 usb but im pretty sure its part of the wifi card
[06:36] <Whisky`> and a 2nd usb cambridge usb
[06:37] <xtacie> have you trie the rtlwifi-linux/rtlwifi_new git repos
[06:39] <Whisky`> xtacie: no, as this worked before the update
[06:39] <xtacie> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/261609/rtl8821ae-wifi-driver
[06:40] <xtacie> and its ONLY the bt not working
[06:40] <xtacie> or is wifi and tooth sunk?
[06:40] <Whisky`> only bt
[06:40] <Whisky`> well ya know mmm, one min
[06:41] <xtacie> https://github.com/rtlwifi-linux/rtlwifi_new
[06:41] <Whisky`> yea the wifi is fine, i dont use it
[06:42] <xtacie> you may need to open the unit and pull the card and give the model off the unit itself
[06:42] <xtacie> ive had similar issues with intel cards.. wifi works bt doesnt
[06:43] <xtacie> vaio laptop... dell laptop  both
[06:43] <Whisky`> meh
[06:43] <Whisky`> its a pita to open
[06:43] <xtacie> even if i knkew the motherboard model number and revision i could pull the specs on it
[06:43] <Whisky`> worse to get it from where its mounted
[06:44] <xtacie> gotya
[06:44] <Whisky`> hell i think id have to pull both screens down
[06:44] <xtacie> ever try to usb boot windows and run diverpacks
[06:44] <Whisky`> double meh
[06:44] <Whisky`> windows only runs inside xcp-ng
[06:45] <xtacie> sergi sterlec or whatever can get you into a pe and run driverpacks to find the exact mpn of the blutooth chipset
[06:51] <xtacie> whisky: try live booting 21.04
[06:51] <xtacie> https://tutorialforlinux.com/2021/04/08/step-by-step-ubuntu-21-04-realtek-rtl8821ce-driver-installation/
[06:52] <xtacie> Whisky: looks like someone fixed the issue here for mint.. maybe be able to follow and work around
[06:52] <xtacie> https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=308215
[06:54] <Whisky`> does the rtlwifi_new not have bt drivers?
[06:54] <xtacie> not 100% sure..
[07:07] <xtacie> sarnold: I LOVE YOU!!! i figured out what it was with the last thing you said to me about the configs for rsyslog
[07:09] <xtacie> there previous person had a half dozen configs all conflicting... removed all but the 50-config and was able to compare that config to the default
[07:10] <xtacie> put all my chances and in that config file and am now watching the server stem off 20+ attacks/m
[09:48] <xtacie> howdy howdy
[11:24] <chilversc> when using sbuild, can I add additional patches to the build, and how would I provide additional options to ./configure?
[11:35] <river> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[11:35] <river>  libssl-dev : Depends: libssl1.1 (= 1.1.0g-2ubuntu4) but 1.1.1-1ubuntu2.1~18.04.13 is to be installed
[11:35] <river> how do I install libssl-dev?
[11:38] <xtacie> have you tried sudo apt install -f
[11:39] <scortal> hi
[11:39] <xtacie> hello
[11:40] <xtacie> river:??
[11:40] <xtacie> river: try.....   sudo apt install --reinstall libssl1.1=1.1.0g-2ubuntu4.3
[11:40] <xtacie> sudo apt install libssl-dev
[11:41] <dirtcastle> it's showing /dev/sda2: clean, 561739/12206080 files, 4772518/4882432
[11:41] <dirtcastle> for a long time
[11:41] <dirtcastle> should I just wait
[11:41] <river> it says E: Version ‘1.1.0g-2ubuntu4.3’ for ‘libssl1.1’ was not found
[11:42] <chilversc> this is odd, if I run "sbuild -A -d impish nfs-utils_2.6.1-1ubuntu1.dsc" everything works, but if I try to use a local source directory with "cd nfs-utils_2.6.1; sbuild -A -d impish" I get a build error that it cannot find <rpc/rpc.h>
[11:42] <xtacie> dirtcastle: how old is the machine/hard drive
[11:42] <dirtcastle> it's new
[11:43] <river> i did
[11:43] <river> sudo apt install --reinstall libssl1.1=1.1.0g-2ubuntu4
[11:43] <river> and now it completely broken my VM
[11:43] <dirtcastle> i mean. it's like 6 months old? and I installed ubuntu a month back or smtg
[11:44] <river> ive just got text on black background, ubuntu is gone
[11:44] <xtacie> have you updated
[11:44] <river> after rebooting
[11:44] <river> it uninstalled everything
[11:44] <river> this sucks
[11:44] <xtacie> when you boot your vm.. what prog are u using
[11:45] <scortal> hi ubuntu loverz
[11:45] <river> virtualbox
[11:45] <xtacie> whats your main os
[11:46] <dirtcastle> xtacie: "have you updated" did u ask me?
[11:46] <xtacie> dirtcastle: yes
[11:46] <dirtcastle> I did update 2 days ago.
[11:46] <scortal> dircastle like newcastle?
[11:46] <dirtcastle> i don't do it daily!  should I do that daily?
[11:46] <scortal> daily ! possibly monthly.
[11:47] <xtacie> no, just curious.. and are you runing DEB? or RHEL?
[11:47] <dirtcastle> it's minecraft pun.😅
[11:47] <scortal> :D
[11:47] <xtacie> lol
[11:48] <xtacie> river: whats your host OS?
[11:48] <xtacie> my youngest boy freaked out when i told him blockchains are what minecraft server admins get
[11:49] <xtacie> dirtcastle: what are you trying to run that your getting this error?
[11:49] <dirtcastle> u have a boy? I'm 22 . by blockchain u mean reward blocks u get after mining?
[11:50] <dirtcastle> xtacie: ntg. i just booted it
[11:51] <xtacie> dirtcastle: ntg?? and yes, i have 5 kids and im 31
[11:51] <xtacie> ntg the android app devkit
[11:52] <dirtcastle> noooo. ntg - nothing.
[11:52] <xtacie> oh lol
[11:52] <dirtcastle> i just started my laptop
[11:52] <dirtcastle> and it chose ubuntu in grub and this happens
[11:52] <dirtcastle> I*
[11:53] <scortal> i might need to upgrade to 22.04
[11:53] <scortal> would that be suitable
[11:53] <xtacie> what kind of laptop? what os? are you CSM/UEFI booting? are you dual booting windows?
[11:53] <xtacie> i prefer lts
[11:53] <xtacie> 20.04
[11:53] <xtacie> 22 is fun to play with
[11:53] <dirtcastle> dual booting . uefi . windows and ubuntu.
[11:54] <xtacie> whats the model of the laptop
[11:54] <dirtcastle> https://www.flipkart.com/msi-gf63-thin-core-i5-10th-gen-8-gb-512-gb-ssd-windows-10-home-4-graphics-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050-144-hz-10uc-607in-gaming-laptop/p/itm92565651dc3ed
[11:54] <xtacie> windows MAJOR build upgrades will 50/50 butcher GPT part'd drives for some dumb reason
[11:54] <scortal> dont butcher the GPT pls
[11:55] <dirtcastle> xtacie: so u saying that's what happened right now?
[11:55] <xtacie> i cant confirm it
[11:55] <dirtcastle> i do use gpt partition
[11:56] <xtacie> im just saying ive had my beef with dual boots.. u said your using grub to boot windows
[11:56] <dirtcastle> for ubuntu
[11:56] <dirtcastle> yes!
[11:56] <dirtcastle> i use grub to boot into windows and ubuntu
[11:56] <dirtcastle> what should I do.
[11:56] <xtacie> ok thays good
[11:57] <xtacie> can you boot into recovery mode in ubuntu?
[11:57] <dirtcastle> this is the first time this is happening
[11:58] <xtacie> did windows have any major updates recently
[11:58] <xtacie> or if ubuntu did update grub, did you keep your settings the same
[11:58] <dirtcastle> i don't boot into it for many days
[11:58] <dirtcastle> didn't use windows*
[11:59] <dirtcastle> for many days
[11:59] <xtacie> i had an old version of lubuntu on a dual boot vaio laptop and a update to grub caked me doze... when you get into grub.. do you see ubuntu, ubuntu recovery and windows
[12:00] <dirtcastle> i see advanced options for Ubuntu
[12:00] <dirtcastle> uefi firmware settings
[12:00] <dirtcastle> yes it has recovery mode inside it
[12:01] <xtacie> sorry i have a dozen conversations going on at once..
[12:01] <xtacie> so whats not booting..
[12:02] <dirtcastle> ubuntu
[12:02] <dirtcastle> lol
[12:02] <xtacie> can you boot into recovery mode
[12:03] <xtacie> is it trying to boot but dies at a black screen??
[12:03] <xtacie> lol wb
[12:03] <xtacie> man have i missed irc
[12:11] <dirtcastle> lol. i need to set up a bouncer asap. I'm in hostel and internet is butchered.
[12:12] <alocer[m]> what is a 'bouncer' ?
[12:12] <xtacie> lol too bad you dont have a spare laptop with a wifi card that can go prom.... you could deauth the suckers
[12:13] <xtacie> or setup a rougue ap and play mitm
[12:13] <alocer[m]> oh god please no.
[12:13] <alocer[m]> today i have learned. lol
[12:15] <xtacie> ill brb.. gotta drop the kiddos off
[12:35] <Guest91> Can anyone help me out with a regex in bash please? Trying to rm anything that has a number followed by an x followed by another number. Example, image1-600x600.png should be deleted.
[12:35] <Guest91> rm .+[0-9]+x[0-9]+.+ is giving me no matches found.
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> try #linux Guest91 ?
[12:36] <xtacie> hmm
[12:36] <xtacie> good one
[12:37] <xtacie> are you tryig to srub a whole volume or just a directory
[12:37] <Guest91> lotuspsychje OK, thanks anyway
[12:40] <alkisg> Guest91: the shell supports globs, not regexes
[12:40] <alkisg> I.e. ? and *
[12:46] <scortal> shellium
[12:48] <Guest91> alkisg Thanks :)
[12:49] <alkisg> Try e.g. `echo *[0-9][0-9]x[0-9][0-9]*`, and if it echoes what you want, replace echo with rm
[12:50] <xtacie> would you need rm -rf ?
[12:50] <alkisg> From what I saw they're images, not directories, so I don't think he needs it
[12:51] <alkisg> If it's recursive, they should use find instead of globs
[12:51] <xtacie> hrmm.. also.. if your just trying to remove image files of a certain resolution, i dont know if you have access to a gui but accessing that folder and sorting files based on size may be easier
[12:52] <xtacie> or if its local, mounting the folder in another OS with a gui and ability to sort based on file options may be easier
[12:53] <alkisg> ctrl+f in most linux file managers allows searching with globs too, and displaying only the matches
[12:55] <xtacie> yeah thats a tricky one.. one would hate to delte all ones DPs of smaller nature
[13:02] <semitones> On today's episode of "semitones' day off work," we'll be trying to get dpi scaling back on the 10 GB install of ubuntu on my surface pro 3, and I already have a plan
[13:03] <semitones> First you'll be happy to know that I shrank my windows partition by 10 GB, so I'll be able to DOUBLE the size of the ubuntu part :D
[13:04] <semitones> my plan is: get the ubuntu live USB and boot from it, seeing if it detects the high dpi screen automatically. And, if everything is peaceful, maybe I'll just do a fresh install
[13:04] <semitones> the problem is: I remember this install being a headache to configure, but I don't remember what I had to do
[13:05] <semitones> if only there were some record ubuntu kept of what changes I made to the underlying system
[13:05] <semitones> a "registry" of changes, perhaps.
[13:05] <xtacie> i find its hit or miss
[13:06] <alocer[m]> too much text :D
[13:06] <semitones> But anyway, here it goes. I'm making the live USB now, will report back with more updates :)
[13:06] <xtacie> as for changes.. i like to keep a running log of all the commands i use to create/harden a system
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> lets not use this channel to describe every step we try
[13:06] <semitones> xtacie, yeah! I've started making "information.txt" in my home directory, but I keep forgetting to write things in it :)
[13:07] <xtacie> lotuspsychje lol
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> ask a question and wait until volunteers can help
[13:07] <semitones> how about every other step? :D jk jk, i'll be back if I have any actual questions or interesting factoids
[13:07] <xtacie> there was a person on github who made a shell script to do kinda that.. it was like linux server hardening
[13:07] <xtacie> or similar
[13:07] <xtacie> and it later became a tut
[13:08] <xtacie> i love to break stuff.. this way i have to come back here
[13:09] <xtacie> does anyone know of a good... ubuntu/deb security channel??
[13:10] <semitones> maybe someone will know if you ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux? I'm not that cool to know :)
[13:10] <xtacie> :)
[13:10] <hsiktas[m]> Is this disk usage caused by snap normal on a fairly stock 21.10 install?
[13:11]  * hsiktas[m] uploaded an image: (92KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/NEtMLPfUCyHuoqnrWFTqlDsf/image.png >
[13:13] <Ravage> depends on the snap. it keeps old versions around
[13:13] <Ravage> so could be totally "normal"
[13:25] <xtacie> ugh, watching my bastardbox get pick to pieces with attacks but too bored to lock it down.
[13:26] <xtacie> curious if ill get bored enough to restart it before someone actually gets in
[13:26] <Ravage> !ot | xtacie
[13:30] <webchat37> what is the default DE in ubuntu desktop
[13:30] <Tinkery> gnome
[13:30] <webchat37> what is unity?
[13:30] <Tinkery> kind of gnome
[13:30] <Tinkery> there are also different flavors, thats ubuntu with another DE
[13:30] <wez> gnome is good
[13:31] <xtacie> if you have a slower machine lxde/xfce
[13:31] <Tinkery> even with a fast machine xubuntu is nice :P
[13:31] <xtacie> i agree
[13:31] <webchat37> so what's the flavor uses unity
[13:31] <Tinkery> just ubuntu
[13:31] <Tinkery> xubuntu has xfce
[13:32] <Tinkery> for example
[13:32] <Tinkery> ubuntu is with unity
[13:32] <webchat37> but ubuntu with gnome?
[13:33] <Tinkery> https://ubuntugnome.org/
[13:33] <xtacie> i love me some lubuntu on crappy laptops (ie, hackntoss)
[13:33] <wez> Isn't Ubuntu with unity or gnome very similar?
[13:34] <xtacie> tbh yeah.. im sure someone could peg me for that with some pros/cons
[13:35] <webchat37> ok thank you
[13:35] <webchat37> :3
[13:35] <xtacie> i still remember the good ole days of knoppix and DSL.. i still have boxed versions of red hat 8/9
[13:37] <Guest5645> audio device not found audacity
[13:37] <Guest5645> Acer Nitro AN515-44
[13:40] <xtacie> its a realtek sound device
[13:40] <Ravage> Guest5645: audacity uses Alsa. So make sure alsamixer for example works
[13:40] <Ravage> which Ubuntu version?
[13:41] <Guest5645> 21.10
[13:41] <Guest5645> oh it started working
[13:41] <Guest5645> cool have fun everyone
[13:41] <xtacie> toots
[13:42] <xtacie> was gonna say, u have to arm the device in audacity
[13:42] <xtacie> prefs, sound device enable. then arm a single audio track for record
[13:50] <Guest5645> back to no device found
[13:51] <scortal> uh oh
[13:51] <wez> oh noes
[13:52] <Guest5645> hmm it turns out I can't turn down the volume in mixer
[13:52] <Guest5645> it just goes blind on it
[13:52] <Guest5645> but the audio I recorded was insane chirpy
[13:53] <Guest5645> sounded something like old rap album from 2007, made by random dudes
[13:53] <tomreyn> run pavucontrol, see if this helps setting things up properly
[13:54] <Guest5645> yeah chill I'm getting nostalgic
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:25] <dirtcastle> I've dual booted ubuntu and I'm getting error when I boot into it. it gives this cleaning dev/sda thingy and it's been like that for hours. and it still hasn't booted.
[15:26] <dirtcastle> I'm sry. i got disconnected . my internet isn't good.
[15:27] <leftyfb> dirtcastle: what is the other OS on the drive?
[15:27] <dirtcastle> windows amd ubuntu
[15:27] <leftyfb> dirtcastle: on the Ubuntu side, do you normally have the Windows partition mounted?
[15:30] <sarnold> xtacie: sweet, you got everythiung going? :)
[15:32] <dirtcastle> leftyfb:   windows and ubuntu are in different ssd. boot partition of Ubuntu is on window's ssd
[15:32] <leftyfb> dirtcastle: you haven't answered the question
[15:32] <leftyfb> dirtcastle: do you read files that live on the Windows side while booted into Ubuntu?
[15:32] <dirtcastle> i thought I did. 😢
[15:32] <dirtcastle> nope
[15:35]  * xtacie slaps sarnold around a bit with a large trout
[15:35] <xtacie> SARNOLD! i owe you a beer
[15:35] <xtacie> or a pack
[15:36] <sarnold> xtacie: woohoo! :D
[15:36] <xtacie> so lol would you care to know what the true issue was
[15:36] <dirtcastle> xtacie: i still haven't fixed the problem
[15:36] <sarnold> xtacie: yeah! :)
[15:36] <xtacie> dirtcastle: i havent give up on you.. one moment
[15:36] <sarnold> xtacie: I saw something about the rsyslog configs..
[15:38] <tomreyn> dirtcastle: have you been using this dual boot setup for weeks and more and it only stopped wroking recently all of a sudden - or did you make changes which could have caused this? or have you been setting up the multi-boot only recently and it did not wrok well from the beginning?
[15:38] <dirtcastle> only today. it wsa working fine all these days. and booted into windows thrice or smtg
[15:39] <regedit> anyone have experience using rsync for incremental backups? like with `--link-dest` ? dunno why it's not working by me...
[15:39] <xtacie> sarnold: SOOOO! the previous "builder" of this server did a crap job. rsyslog.d confs (like apache confs) had a dozen or so that were all screwed up.  AND the biggest was... creating the config for the logserver.. had a space and was looking for "[IPTABLES]" INSTEAD OF "[UFW]".. so i guess once UFW takes over logging, it hits dmesg with logs starting with UFW and not the default IPTABLES
[15:40] <xtacie> and NON of the confs, including the default 50 had the & stop at the end
[15:40] <dirtcastle> tomreyn: was trying to install gentoo. i was working with chroot.
[15:40] <xtacie> SO it allowed the daemon to run without nag but wasnt finding anything to latch onto
[15:41] <regedit> more details about the rsync `--link-dest` not working https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/AbUqDGM5/specifics.txt
[15:41] <tomreyn> dirtcastle: you were trying to install gentoo and then ubuntu failed to boot?
[15:42] <dirtcastle> I tampered a litte with fstab in gentoo. but I'm pretty sure I didn't do anything wrong there.
[15:42] <sarnold> xtacie: ohhhhh my goodness. no wonder it was miserable to track down.
[15:42] <sybariten> hey hey
[15:43] <tomreyn> dirtcastle: so you actually have a three OS boot system there now (apart from ubuntu not booting)?
[15:43] <sybariten> when doing a manual mount of an external webdav service, i may want to do it with something under /mnt as mountpoint, right? Do i need to chown things afterwards to get write permissions, or is there something i can use already on the mount line to make this just work magically?
[15:43] <sybariten> imagine i have a normal user jake, and i suppose i sudo mkdir the dir
[15:44] <xtacie> i believe has to be a part of the webdav group
[15:44] <dirtcastle> tomreyn: I installed genkernel. After few hours This started happening. but I'm not sure how many times I switched off and turned it on in the middle.
[15:44] <sybariten> xtacie: theres a webdav user group?
[15:45] <dirtcastle> tomreyn: actually no. i can't boot int gentoo coz I haven't finished the installation completely. I have to do fstab and then configure grub. I haven't done that. until now I've been only chrooting into it .
[15:46] <tomreyn> dirtcastle: hmm, maybe post an overview of disks and partitions and what's installed where, it's becoming hard to follow.
[15:47] <dirtcastle> how to get that now? ubuntu won't boot. Can I do that from windows? windows works properly btw
[15:48] <leftyfb> dirtcastle: ok, so you should have started with "I have a dual boot Ubuntu/Windows system and I half-tried installing Gentoo and made some fstab changes and now my system fails to boot with this error message"
[15:48] <tomreyn> you can always boot from an ubuntu live/installer iso, written to bootable media, such as an usb stick or cd-rom
[15:49] <dirtcastle> leftyfb: i didn't think gentoo would've caused it.
[15:49] <tomreyn> dirtcastle: which fstab did you edit, that of ubuntu or that of gentoo?
[15:50] <dirtcastle> gentoo only
[15:50] <dirtcastle> that's why I didn't think it would've caused it
[15:50] <tomreyn> ok, did you run grub for gentoo?
[15:50] <dirtcastle> I didn't try booting into gentoo...
[15:50] <leftyfb> dirtcastle: if you installed gentoo, it probably installed it's own GRUB which is trying to boot to it's broken fstab
[15:51] <dirtcastle> nope. I haven't installed or configured it
[15:51] <BinarySavior> when installing ubuntu 20.04 on my laptop I selected options for Normal installation, download updates while installing, and install third-party drivers, I pressed continue and it has animated loading circle for my mouse cursor and it's been hanging like this for 6 minutes, should I let it keep working?  how long does this part take?
[15:51] <xtacie> usually
[15:51] <leftyfb> BinarySavior: let is finish
[15:52] <tomreyn> dirtcastle: oay, let's see the partition overview when you have it (no rush).
[15:52] <dirtcastle> i just looked at gentoo handbook. I have to install grub manually. I haven't done it
[15:52] <tomreyn> dirtcastle: you can also run a software which can examine 'S.M.A.R.T' data of your disks, and share its output for each disk. this can be done on windows (i assume, can't guide there, try #windows) or on an ubuntu live bootable system, for example.
[15:59] <waffle23> if i install though sudo apt install would would be the correct way to remove that installed software
[15:59] <almostdvs> sudo apt remove
[15:59] <waffle23> not purge?
[16:00] <almostdvs> https://askubuntu.com/questions/231562/what-is-the-difference-between-apt-get-purge-and-apt-get-remove
[16:01] <waffle23> just want to know if its the wrong or right way i assume both are acceptable and should not break anything
[16:02] <almostdvs> depends if you want to keep your configuration files
[16:03] <almostdvs> if you reinstall the app do you want it to be mostly how you left it or do you want to completely wipe and remove the application
[16:04] <waffle23> i'm asking because i did that and it did not reinstall it correctly i just wanted to be sure that it was not something wrong (it happans with purge and remove i think)
[16:06] <waffle23> i think there was something wrong with the package itself i think the remove part of it does not work
[16:07] <waffle23> i ask because alot of people blame the user i just want to make sure I was doing things the correct way
[16:09] <BinarySavior> can terminal session attach to ubuntu 20.04 install process to read logs as the install works?
[16:10] <enigma9o7[m]> I believe you can start the installer from the command line, and what it's output pretty easily.
[16:10] <enigma9o7[m]> what-->watch
[16:20] <dirtcastle> tomreyn: what should I ask there? some software that can give fdisk -l  or parted print like output?
[16:22] <tomreyn> dirtcastle: a software which prints partitions, and file systems on them
[16:23] <tomreyn> you can add unknown file systems manually as needed.
[16:24] <tomreyn> dirtcastle: in the end, something like lsblk output would be nice
[16:24] <tomreyn> (or fdisk -l   plus notes on file systems on those partitions)
[16:24] <dirtcastle> i know the file systems by heart
[16:24] <dirtcastle> 😅
[16:25] <dirtcastle> i don't remember the size tho
[16:27] <tomreyn> if you can just textually list partitions and file systems on them on a pastebin that's good enough, too
[16:57] <dirtcastle> tomreyn: i have image. how to send image in IRC.
[16:59] <dirtcastle> i mean I know I can't send in irc
[16:59] <dirtcastle> there will pastebin equivalent to image right. which ppl trust to be safe
[16:59] <kulesh> Welcome to International Advanced Direct Connect Hub with Encryption Security and Unicode support https://dchub.one
[17:00] <jelly> is there a way to download old PPA builds from someplace?  https://launchpad.net/~vbernat/+archive/ubuntu/haproxy-2.2/+build/19590130
[17:00] <enigma9o7[m]> imgur works
[17:01] <enigma9o7[m]> Thanks.
[17:01] <enigma9o7[m]> Why not download from what you linked?
[17:06] <dirtcastle> https://imgur.com/a/zsW8Ije
[17:06] <dirtcastle> tomreyn:
[17:08] <enigma9o7[m]> https://launchpad.net/~vbernat/+archive/ubuntu/haproxy-2.2/+build/23212838 jelly
[17:08] <tomreyn> dirtcastle: ext3? more likely ext4, right?
[17:09] <tomreyn> dirtcastle: didn't you say ubuntus /boot file system was on the windows disk?
[17:27] <Guest60> Hi, I am configuring landscape to mirror ubuntu repositories. I am following the landscape doc, but I have a question regarding  sync-mirror-pocket. I really need to wait to finish a pocket mirror before I can run the command to sync the next one? Or I can run and landscape will queue those sync tasks and execute it sequentially.
[17:28] <sarnold> Guest60: you may wish to try asking in #ubuntu-server -- landscape is a fairly niche tool, I think you have more chances of someonen familiar with it in the other channel
[17:28] <Guest60> sure, thanks sarnold
[17:32] <vamadir> hello
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> welcome vamadir
[17:35] <vamadir> ubuntu 20.04, have problem with with grub(uefi). How to change timeout 30 sec to 0? Default grub update not working
[17:35] <sarnold> what errors do you get when you run it?
[17:36] <vamadir> sarnold, have no errors
[17:58] <semitones> Does the Ubuntu Startup Disk creator make a bootable USB which is compatible with UEFI? I am trying to understand this page but it is not clear: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Creating_a_bootable_Ubuntu_USB_flash_drive_from_Ubuntu
[18:08] <Tinkery> yes its compatible
[18:08] <Tinkery> @semitones its compatible
[18:11] <semitones> Thanks!
[18:13] <devilboy> hi everyone
[18:13] <devilboy> this is the official ubuntu support in irc ?
[18:13] <Tinkery> @devilboy: Yes
[18:13] <leftyfb> devilboy: yes, feel free to ask yout ubuntu support question
[18:13] <leftyfb> your*
[18:14] <devilboy> lovely :D  thank you both very much, just switched from w10 to ubuntu 20.04 :D
[18:14] <Tinkery> @devilboy: sounds like the best choice of your life xD
[18:15] <devilboy> hahaha yes, I was thinking actually for an excuse years now how to come back in ubuntu. (recent w10 updates)
[18:22] <devilboy> when 22.04 is released do you advise an upgrade or I can stick with 20.04 which is really stable and tested until 2025 ?
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> devilboy: the LTS way would be waiting until 22.04.1 is released when more bugs have been sorted
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> devilboy: you can stay on 20.04 as personal choice aswell
[18:25] <devilboy> yes, to be honest it's running smoothly :)  I can wait also for the 22.04.1 - thank you lotuspsychje :)
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> 20.04 is a sweet release indeed
[18:26] <devilboy> exactly :D
[18:27] <Tinkery> devilboy: and also upgrading to 22.04 is easily done, you dont need to reinstall the whole sys
[18:29] <devilboy> Yes Tinkery, I was using ubuntu from the ages of 1st ubuntu release (when I received my first ubuntu with a CD) I'm really happy now that I am permanently back to stay with ubuntu. Few days back I was trying to remember commands, thank god I found them all ahahahahah
[18:29] <Tinkery> @devilboy: nice!
[18:31] <devilboy> If I talk a lot it's because am excited :P  do we have also ubuntu off topic chat?
[18:32] <Tinkery> @devilboy: #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:32] <devilboy> :o :D  thanks
[18:32] <Tinkery> haha
[18:32] <devilboy> lol
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> see also:
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[18:33] <devilboy> ohhh great !!!
[18:48] <devilboy> Nice to meet you all here :)  I will see you around again, Have a good night/day & weekend!
[19:20] <blahboybaz> Does anyone have more info on this package? Is it safe? I thought firmware was boot software (the first thing that fires up - whether bios or efi)..  https://packages.ubuntu.com/impish/libfwupdplugin1
[19:21] <sarnold> blahboybaz: fwupd and fwupdmgr tool are the preferred tool for doing firmware updates for *lots* of devices
[19:21] <sarnold> blahboybaz: updating firmware often comes with risks, yes, a lot of devices can't handle the process being interrupted
[19:22] <blahboybaz> sarnold: but firmware is bios or efi right? Just want to confirm my understanding
[19:22] <blahboybaz> or is drivers also considered "firmware"?
[19:23] <sarnold> blahboybaz: that and much more -- USB docks, monitors, etc
[19:23] <blahboybaz> sarnold: for some reason I thought that (for safety reasons) firmware updates were to be done manually. Is that package doing automatic update or something?
[19:24] <blahboybaz> The only firmware upgrade I rememver doing you have to put the new firmware on a usb stick then boot to it or something
[19:24] <blahboybaz> you can brick your machine if it screws up
[19:25] <sarnold> blahboybaz: some devices still require to do things like that :( I really wish I could upgrade my supermicro's bios with fwupdmgr, instead I think they require the USB dos boot stick or similar
[19:27] <blahboybaz> sarnold: Ok.. well, when I saw that package come up, I just want to make sure that no automatic update is going on with firmware. Should I look for some configuration file or something in order to make sure it is not doing something automatically?
[19:28] <sarnold> blahboybaz: I'm not so sure about *automatic* updates, I don't know off-hand what might be running in the standard systems
[19:28] <sarnold> blahboybaz: I *think* all updates with fwupd need to be done by hand, but I can't promise that
[19:29] <blahboybaz> sarnold: Well the way it came up is as a packeage that is no longer needed (suggests autoremove) BUT because of what it is it kind of alarmed me. Makes me want to verify what may be going on on this machine
[19:31] <sarnold> blahboybaz: the impish version of the source package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fwupd/1.7.5-3~21.10.1  .. also builds a libfwupdplugin5 binary package. It probably replaces the libfwupdplugin1
[19:31] <sarnold> .. package that you've got installed, and apparently nothing else requires that one any more
[19:33] <blahboybaz> sarnold: I see
[19:33] <blahboybaz> I guess I won't worry about it too much
[19:33] <blahboybaz> :)
[19:33] <blahboybaz> thanks
[19:34] <sarnold> blahboybaz: woot :)
[20:07] <tomreyn> sarnold: fwiw, most supermicros let you do the bios  upgrade via ipmi, if you have one. you'd need an extra license (or work around that), though.
[20:08] <tomreyn> actually, let's pretend i wrote this on the other channel - reposting.
[20:08] <sarnold> hehe
[20:18] <Guest19> hello, how do i test for directory using shell script which is executed with docker container
[20:18] <Guest19> I am getting /bin/bash : [-d : command not found
[20:19] <leftyfb> [ -d /path/to/dir ]
[20:19] <Guest19> leftyfb kubectl exec mypod -- /bin/bash -c "if [-d /tmp/mypath];then echo found; fil"
[20:20] <Sven_vB> can I use underscore (_) in network adapter names?
[20:20] <leftyfb> right, that is incorrect. Please look carefully at mine and yours.
[20:20] <Sven_vB> Guest19, mind the spaces
[20:23] <sarnold> "
[20:23] <sarnold> "mind the gap" :)
[20:28] <Guest19> thanks Sven_vB sarnold leftyfb . Here's small sample but idk what's wrong : https://pastebin.com/G55g82Ce
[20:28] <Guest19> fixed the spaces
[20:29] <leftyfb> Guest19: you didn't fix the space in your pastebin
[20:29] <Guest19> https://pastebin.com/sbCqcnmV
[20:29] <Guest19> fixed
[20:30] <leftyfb> ok, so now that the test id valid, what is the issue?
[20:30] <Guest19> getting syntax error : unexpected end of file
[20:32] <leftyfb> Guest19: try https://pastebin.com/Sbm6JmV7    other than that, probably an issue with the way kubectl calls bash .. something something escapes
[20:32] <leftyfb> Guest19: you might also try #bash
[20:35] <Guest19> ok thanks
[20:40] <tomreyn> Guest19: "for $host in listofhost" -> "for host in $listofhost"
[21:12] <Whisky`> yay. progress. got one bt adapter working. now for the other
[21:14] <Whisky`> how is this a years old issue? Cambrige CSR A10. it /was/ working.
[21:23] <semitones> I'm now suspecting that the dock I had before was part of GNOME
[21:24] <semitones> Does standard Ubuntu have a dock, like unity did
[21:25] <semitones> And if you press the super key, it opened a menu that let you search for apps and other things
[21:25] <semitones> ?
[21:25] <leftyfb> semitones: https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+21.10&sxsrf=APq-WBtAjt9pDyeWnXY0hZuvVExFqK0YwQ:1647033877439&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjNjsqp_772AhUzhHIEHVrrDJQQ_AUoA3oECAEQBQ&biw=1600&bih=707&dpr=1
[21:25] <semitones> Coming in clutch
[21:26] <semitones> Thanks
[21:27] <semitones> Now have to figure out how to do a minimal install of all the ubuntu-gnome stuff without getting all the applications that ubuntu-desktop pulls in
[21:31] <semitones> I wish I knew if high dpi ever worked for me, or if I originally just chose a normal screen resolution so things would just work, and never noticed a difference
[21:32] <semitones> Since I can never know, I'll just try again and test it out
[22:00] <eelstrebor> the latest update to firefox messed things up
[22:00] <Chunkyz> eelstrebor: yes it's happening to a lot of others
[22:00] <Chunkyz> fails to start, gives errors when opening via terminal. wait for a fix to get released. :-)
[22:03] <leftyfb> are you both referring to the snap? On Ubuntu 20.04 I'm running the latest which is version 98.0+build3-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 and has no issues
[22:03] <Chunkyz> leftyfb: no. a lot of people are reporting problems with the latest firefox.
[22:03] <Chunkyz> mainly arm64 iirc
[22:05] <leftyfb> Chunkyz: besides this conversation, "firefox" has been mentioned 3 times this entire month, none of which had to do with issues with firefox specifically
[22:06] <Chunkyz> leftyfb: *shrug*
[22:06] <leftyfb> I just removed the apt version on and installed the snap. No issue there either
[22:06] <Chunkyz> leftyfb: https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=331122 and https://forum.manjaro.org/t/firefox-98-0-1-seems-broken/105084/12
[22:07] <Chunkyz> like I said, a lot are reporting it.
[22:07] <Chunkyz> I use ESR so can't say 100%
[22:07] <leftyfb> ok, so looks like only arm64
[22:08] <Chunkyz> "<Chunkyz> mainly arm64 iirc"
[22:13] <tomreyn> Chunkyz: Does it happen on Ubuntu, though?
[22:13] <tomreyn> eelstrebor: ^
[22:13] <Chunkyz> tomreyn: yep
[22:14] <leftyfb> Chunkyz: got links? error messages?
[22:14] <tomreyn> Chunkyz: have you filed a bug report?
[22:14] <Chunkyz> I linked you above leftyfb.
[22:14] <Chunkyz> tomreyn: nope.
[22:15] <leftyfb> Chunkyz: that's RaspiOS and Manajo, not Ubuntu
[22:15] <leftyfb> Manjaro*
[22:15] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: got an error message? What release of Ubuntu? snap or apt version of Firefox? Which version of Firefox?
[22:16] <Chunkyz> leftyfb: I see reports of it happening on Buntu, arm64 too.
[22:16] <leftyfb> Chunkyz: got links? error messages?
[22:18] <Chunkyz> leftyfb: the ESR is fine, the 'latest' firefox isn't. Google is your friend.
[22:19] <leftyfb> Chunkyz: please don't claim there are issues with ubuntu and when asked for more info so it can be looked into, respond with "google"
[22:19] <eelstrebor> leftyfb, 20.04.4, apt version of firefox 98.0
[22:20] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: apt-cache policy firefox | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:20] <Chunkyz> leftyfb: it's a widespread problem with the latest firefox, I'm busy rn
[22:21] <Chunkyz> I'll shut up. can't say things are broken on Ubuntu because well, you saw. oh well... hope you fix it eelstrebor
[22:21] <tomreyn> Chunkyz: without backing this up by references, this really just looks like a rumor
[22:21] <eelstrebor> leftyfb, https://termbin.com/4p9x?
[22:21] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: what happens when you open firefox?
[22:22] <Chunkyz> tomreyn: I've seen several times it's happening, not *just* ubuntu. manjaro, debian, rpios. it's the latest firefox.
[22:23] <eelstrebor> leftyfb, it opens like it normally does but there's an extra firefox icon in the dashboard
[22:23] <Chunkyz> I don't use the latest, I use the ESR otherwise I'd have filed a bug report. :-)
[22:24] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: snap list # do you see it listed there?
[22:25] <srv> in debian is 91.7.0esr (64-bit) i run debian on wsl2  as well ubuntu sometimes
[22:25] <eelstrebor> leftyfb, no
[22:25] <srv> thats the later esr firefox
[22:25] <leftyfb> Chunkyz: the only non-arm64 posts I can find refer to being unable to play video, which again, works fine fore me with both the snap and apt version of firefox. And as eelstrebor just pointed out, it's running just fine for them, but there's a cosmetic issue going on with another icon
[22:25] <eelstrebor> leftyfb, https://termbin.com/4p9x
[22:26] <tomreyn> eelstrebor: snap is not apt ;)
[22:27] <tomreyn> eelstrebor: you apparently posted the same url again
[22:27] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: snap list firefox
[22:27] <eelstrebor> oops
[22:27] <eelstrebor> snap list firefox is empty
[22:28] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: the resulting output shouldn't be empty
[22:28] <eelstrebor> error: no matching snaps installed
[22:28] <leftyfb> ok
[22:28] <srv> thats why i prefer in debian & ubuntu use apt better than snap
[22:29] <leftyfb> and do you get the same context menu's when you right-click both icons in your launcher?
[22:29] <Chunkyz> srv: yeah snap is cancer
[22:29] <leftyfb> srv: Chunkyz: lets not
[22:29] <eelstrebor> leftyfb, no
[22:29] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: ok, can you explain what menu's you get for eacH?
[22:30] <eelstrebor> one of them launches firefox and right clicking sows "Firefox" and "unlock from launcher"
[22:31] <eelstrebor> the other icon has 7 selections
[22:32] <eelstrebor> i wish i could copy/paste the selections from that icon
[22:32] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: rcho $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[22:32] <leftyfb> bah
[22:32] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:32] <Chunkyz> leftyfb: let's not *what* ?
[22:33] <Maik> Chunkyz: you know better
[22:33] <eelstrebor> https://termbin.com/wri3w
[22:33] <Chunkyz> snap is cancer though, I was replying to srv Maik
[22:34]  * Chunkyz goes back to lurking - I know 'better'
[22:34] <Maik> Chunkyz: leftyfb meant not to start a discussion about it in this support channel and you know that :)
[22:35] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: ok, so you're running Unity. That's a bit non-standard for Ubuntu these days and only community supported. I looks a bit messy to clean that up https://askubuntu.com/questions/135676/how-can-i-remove-or-disable-unlock-from-launcher-in-the-quicklist-of-a-launche
[22:35] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: mind you, this is more likely an issue with Unity and not Firefox
[22:36] <eelstrebor> ok. i think the other is wayland? i don't particuraly like that one
[22:37] <leftyfb> eelstrebor: no, the "other" is Gnome shell
[22:37] <Ravage> gnome shell works perfectly fine on xorg :)
[23:44] <eelstrebor> i changed my desktop to gnome and firefox still doesn't work like it did before the upgrade - i have a webif connection to a satellite receiver that use to launch vlc but now it just downloads a file that's suppose to be a live stream from the satellite receiver
[23:44] <eelstrebor> it did the same thing with unity