[02:08] <RobNyc> Client: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: Pop "impish" 21.10 • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600U with Radeon Graphics (2.30GHz) • Memory: 13.3 GiB Total (11.4 GiB Free) • Storage: 10.8 GB / 124.9 GB (114.1 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cezanne @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge • Uptime: 5h 37m 57s
[02:09] <leftyfb> RobNyc: please don't do that here
[02:10] <RobNyc> leftyfb, whats wrong
[02:11] <leftyfb> RobNyc: this is a support channel. Posting your system specs just because is offtopic here. Feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[02:12] <RobNyc> thanks you're right first time on irc in 5yrs
[02:12] <RobNyc> apologize
[02:15] <ArchDave> I remember when doing that was actually popular (in more private channels)
[02:19] <mcmcmc> hello
[02:19] <mcmcmc> hello
[02:19] <mcmcmc> hello
[02:19] <mcmcmc> hello
[02:19] <mcmcmc> hello
[02:20] <octav1a> :/
[02:20] <leftyfb> mcmcmc: this is a support channel. Do you have a support question we can help you with?
[02:22] <ArchDave> Does anyone know of a legit way to run ubuntu gui in wsl2 on windows10? Like they do with Kali Linux?
[02:22] <leftyfb> mcmcmc: you were temporarily muted because of your repeated posts. Give it a couple minutes and try posting a support question again. If you do not have a support question and just want to chat, feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:23] <leftyfb> ArchDave: there are plenty of tutorials online to do that. It's not something officially supported in Ubuntu though. You'll be on your own for that one
[02:23] <ArchDave> ah, just the answer I was needed, not supported
[02:24] <mcmcmc> hello
[02:24] <mcmcmc> hello
[02:24] <mcmcmc> hello
[02:24] <mcmcmc> hello
[02:24] <mcmcmc> hello
[02:25] <kostkon_> it's a bot then
[02:25] <Alpha[m]> ArchDave: I tried with Chrome a few days ago and it didn't work well
[02:25] <kostkon_> gbye
[02:26] <leftyfb> Alpha[m]: you tried what with chrome?
[02:26] <matsaman> ArchDave: should just use virtualbox honestly
[02:26] <leftyfb> ^
[02:26] <ArchDave> parasite mode linux
[02:26] <Alpha[m]> leftyfb: Yes
[02:27] <Alpha[m]> leftyfb: Sorry.. Tried running Chrome as a GUI app in Windows 10 using WSL2
[02:28] <ArchDave> remote desktop into a hardware install of linux seems best to me so far
[02:28] <Alpha[m]> ArchDave: What's the end goal?
[02:29] <ArchDave> accessing multiple systems from one main desktop PC
[02:29] <Alpha[m]> If I'm on a Windows machine and need to access linux I use X2Go
[02:30] <ArchDave> one set of monitors
[02:30] <leftyfb> ArchDave: what do you need running on the remote Ubuntu desktop?
[02:31] <ArchDave> the usual desktop apps
[02:32] <leftyfb> ArchDave: why not run those on your machine Windows machine?
[02:32] <ArchDave> ubuntu has a better Freecell, I kid
[02:32] <leftyfb> sorry, main Windows machine
[02:34] <ArchDave> it's really more about learning interopabilty between OS's than an actual "need" on my part
[02:35] <leftyfb> ArchDave: maybe just stick with a server environment then. Learn linux and not how firefox looks and works exactly the same on a different looking desktop. I don't think you're going to learn much there
[02:35] <ArchDave> I'm retired, need something to do to help keep the brain in shape
[02:36] <Alpha[m]> with x2go you can bring in individual apps from remote and it feels local. I do that with phpstorm and it works well
[02:37] <Alpha[m]> But I agree with leftyfb. You won't learn much that way. I have all of my personal machines running kubuntu now and I have access to windows machines when I need it. But my work machine is Windows
[02:37] <ArchDave> I currently have a second machine with a virtualbox windows 10 host and a ubuntu 20.04 guest
[02:38] <Alpha[m]> Are you trying to make the switch to ubuntu and are just "toe dipping" right now?
[02:39] <ArchDave> but will soon have a 3rd machine running as just a linux server
[02:39] <ArchDave> I've been using windows since 3.0 and linux since slackware 2 I think it was
[02:40] <Alpha[m]> Are you Dave's Garage?
[02:40] <ArchDave> retired, and considering doing some kind of work on the side for extra cash
[02:40] <leftyfb> ArchDave: start playing with lxd containers on your server. Not only does it open up a whole world of virtual possibilities like scripts snapshots and copying containers between servers, but you are free to completely break a container server and spin up a new one within a couple minutes with 1 command
[02:41] <ArchDave> I had a linode for a little over a year once
[02:42] <ArchDave> been watching NetworkChuck on youtube lately and getting "ideas"
[02:42] <leftyfb> ArchDave: that's a good place to start
[02:42] <leftyfb> good luck. Let us know if you run into any issues
[02:43] <ArchDave> oh, I used to be in industrial control systems, there are always issues
[02:45] <ArchDave> thinking of trying out some machine learning stuff, but can't afford the major hardware for too much right now
[02:45] <ArchDave> or the cash to do rented server time
[02:45] <ArchDave> hell, can't even get a decent better graphics card still
[02:49] <ArchDave> anyway, thanks for mentioning X2Go, had not heard of that one before
[02:53] <ArchDave> ah, X2Go runs on a linux server and provides access to remote clients
[02:54] <ArchDave> had been using Xrdp so far
[02:55] <Alpha[m]> I couldn't get that to work like I wanted from my ubuntu computer to my windows computer and then found x2go and it works for my needs
[02:58] <ArchDave> I have had some issues using xrdp with Lubuntu 18.04
[02:59] <ArchDave> it's a 32-bit pc and about to hit the dumpster
[03:15] <ednash> Does XRDP use the RDP protocol? Can a Windows PC connect to it?
[03:16] <ednash> I've used VNC about 10 years ago, and found it less efficient wrt. bandwidth than RDP.
[03:16] <Alpha[m]> In my experience it doesn't work like going from windows to windows
[03:16] <ArchDave> yes, run xrdp in the linux box and access from Remote Desktop on windows
[03:17] <ednash> I'm looking for an efficient solution for Linux to Linux remote desktop myself
[03:17] <Alpha[m]> I always suggest x2go for windows to linux
[03:17] <Alpha[m]> and linux to linux
[03:17] <ArchDave> had not thought to even try linux to windows
[03:17] <ednash> Thanks, I'll check that out!
[03:18] <Alpha[m]> linux to windows I use xfreerdp
[03:20] <Alpha[m]> remote desktop was my biggest hurdle in switching to running ubuntu as my daily driver
[03:21] <ednash> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/X2Go
[03:21] <ednash> Hmm this here says "X2Go does not support GLX 1.4 which is required for many graphical applications, including Firefox"
[03:22] <Alpha[m]> that may be for trying to remotely pipe and individual application
[03:22] <Alpha[m]> an*
[03:22] <ednash> I see
[03:23] <Alpha[m]> If you connect to a session everything should work just as if you were sitting in front of the machine
[03:30] <ednash> i'm switching over to linux since a month
[03:30] <ednash> every day i learn something new, and it's been exhilirating
[03:30] <Alpha[m]> stick with it. work the problem :)
[03:31] <ednash> ohhh i am gonna! this is sooo good
[03:31] <ArchDave> end to end encryption probably just piques the powers that be interests
[03:32] <ednash> i'm buying a new large hard disk, somehow feeling excited about formatting it ext4 (no ntfs) and moving all my stuff over there
[03:32] <ednash> on encryption, experimented with fscrypt today
[03:33] <ednash> it's pretty good - also luks file containers are nice
[03:33] <Alpha[m]> How large of disk?
[03:34] <ednash> 8tb
[03:34] <ednash> sorry gtg
[03:34] <ednash> need to take care of something urgently
[03:34] <ednash> bye!
[05:51] <mohsengreen> hi
[06:28] <nikolam> Xubuntu 21.10 is telling me that "Not all upgrades can be installed" and offers partial upgrade. Any news about that?
[06:31] <nikolam> Should I do partial upgrade as it wants me?
[06:33] <nikolam> Seems I am subscribed to All updates
[06:35] <nikolam> Seems it's about .. firmware updater ..
[06:37] <nikolam> and now it wants to uninstall gdb, libc-dbg, python 2.7 , whoopsie-preferences.. Why is all that..
[07:01] <Gamah> why can't i find i3status config after installing i3? it's not in /etc or ~/.config
[07:31] <loganlee> hey guys i installed tor. where is torrc file located? thx!
[07:31] <loganlee> found at /etc/tor/
[08:28] <mr_lou> So my burner still isn't working after I upgraded to 20.04 - any suggestions? Should I try uninstalling k3b and brasero and reinstall?
[08:28] <mr_lou> Any other packages I should try reinstalling?
[10:06] <dirtcastle> foo
[10:07] <wez> bar
[10:07] <dirtcastle_> amazing. i just set up an irc bouncer. was testing it. hope this works
[10:08] <wez> I can see what you typed, that seems like success to me
[10:11] <dirtcastle_> I must get messages when I'm not connected. that's the problem. and I don't even have a way to check that lol
[10:12] <dirtcastle_> oh ok. i got an idea
[10:13] <wez> dirtcastle: I just setup irrsi in a screen :)
[10:13] <wez> works for me
[10:13] <dirtcastle_> ahhh Amazing
[10:13] <dirtcastle_> I am using. ircnow
[10:14] <dirtcastle_> it works!
[10:16] <wez> ircnow you reckon, never heard of it, but will check it out
[10:18] <dirtcastle_> it's free znc bouncer u can connect to. my university's wifi is bad. Mobile data also. I had to switch to mobile data and wifi back and forth and it was frustrating.
[10:20] <Maik> guys, mind taking it to #ubuntu-offtopic please since it's not Ubuntu support related. Thanks in advance
[10:21] <dirtcastle_> yes sry! Maik
[10:21] <Maik> :)
[11:01] <dirtcastle_> when I try to boot into ubuntu I keep getting this error /dev/sda2: clean files , blocks. i tried to install gentoo through chroot. I tampered with fstab of gentoo. But not ubuntu's.
[11:01] <dirtcastle_> Partition & filesystem info : https://imgur.com/a/zsW8Ije
[11:34] <angelsl> hello
[11:34] <angelsl> why are there packages that are in no section? e.g. https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/libboost1.71-dev
[11:35] <angelsl> or no repository, rather
[11:37] <EriC^^> !info libboost1.71-dev focal
[11:38] <EriC^^> angelsl: it's in the main repository
[11:39] <EriC^^> angelsl: does 'apt-cache policy libboost1.71-dev' not list it?
[11:39] <angelsl> EriC^^: ah ok, that makes more sense..
[11:39] <angelsl> i'm debugging a system where libboost1.71-dev is not installable for some reason
[11:40] <angelsl> oh.. it's in the security repository
[11:40] <angelsl> hmmm.. i have a hunch
[11:41] <angelsl> well.. the person i'm helping is busy now, but i guess they didn't have the security repository for whatever reason
[11:47] <EriC^^> i think it's in the main one, not security, could bewrong
[11:48] <EriC^^> how'd you know it's in security?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:05] <wez> hi BluesKaj, how's your day?
[14:06] <irc_standardnick> BluesKaj, hello
[14:06] <BluesKaj> hi wez, doing ok here, morning coffee
[14:07] <BluesKaj> hi irc_standardnick
[14:07] <BluesKaj> wez,  how about you?
[14:08] <wez> BluesKaj: Nice, It's Sunday 1AM here, I am finishing off my night cap
[14:08] <BluesKaj> ahh  :-)
[14:09] <wez> Then in 10 hours I will visit my mum and wish her a happy birthday
[14:10] <wez> Lunch and catch up
[14:10] <BluesKaj> you in oz?
[14:10] <wez> BluesKaj: The magical land itself
[14:11] <BluesKaj> nice
[14:11] <wez> Just don't peer behind the curtains
[14:11] <wez> Nothing like Kansas here
[14:12] <BluesKaj> I bet
[14:14] <wez> :)
[14:16] <sybariten> hey is anyone here running glances? I just had some hunch that this program allowed you to step through processes with cursor keys .... and select them?
[14:16] <sybariten> BluesKaj: you're in kansas?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> nope, Toronto
[14:17] <wez> sybariten: I said Kansas as a reference to Oz, the wizzard Of
[14:17] <wez> BluesKaj: <3 I would love to visit Canada, would you allow me in?
[14:18] <Maik> could we keep the offtopic chatter to a minimum when providing support please :)
[14:18] <Maik> !ot
[14:18] <BluesKaj> of course, wez
[14:18] <sybariten> wez: gotcha
[14:18] <BluesKaj> hehe, it took a while
[14:18] <sybariten> i was reacting cause the nick sounded awfully non-anglosaxon
[14:19] <BluesKaj> not everone who speaks english anglo-saxon
[14:19] <BluesKaj> is
[14:20] <wez> sybariten: which nick?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> wez, think he means me, my first name (Kaj) is common in scandinavia
[14:25] <Chunkyz> Maik: that's the problem of 'greeting' a support channel. why it's allowed, idk.
[14:27] <wez> BluesKaj: oh, I like scandinavia.
[14:27] <wez> I have cousins there
[14:27] <Chunkyz> !ot | wez
[14:27] <Maik> wez: Mind taking it to #ubuntu-offtopic please? Thanks in advance.
[14:28] <wez> Chunkyz: I was wondering how long it would take for the ops to wake up, I will move on to the offtopic chan now, Good night!
[14:28] <BluesKaj> if anyone needs support , I'm sure they'll ask for it
[14:28] <Maik> except we're no ops but i could caal them for you if you like wez
[14:29] <Maik> caal/call
[14:30] <sybariten> BluesKaj: wez: exactly, it's the kind of name i wouldn't expect to find 100 meters outside of the borders of sweden, sort of. Well actually they may have it in germany with an "i" spelling..
[14:30] <Chunkyz> !ot | sybariten
[14:32] <wez> Maik: I was talking to Chunkyz, your interjection sounds off-topic if you are not an op
[14:33] <wez> Maik: Thanks for your offer though
[14:58] <semitones> haha, success! I have installed ubuntu-desktop-minimal, and at first I was tricked by logging in and getting a black screen. BUT if I change the session type to "Ubuntu", everything works out of the box, including high-dpi scaling! YAY SUCCESS
[15:00] <semitones> here's a guestion though... is the camera supposed to turn on when you log in for a few seconds and then turn off...? :/
[15:00] <semitones> it seems to be relating to suspend
[15:01] <semitones> i think I will Not Worry About it
[15:14] <semitones> Can I safely remove lightdm if I am using gdm?
[15:31] <semitones> Ok this is annoying though
[15:31] <semitones> I accidentally logged into one of the non-ubuntu sessions that gives the black screen
[15:31] <semitones> I know that if I wait some minutes it will log back out to gdm greeter or whatever
[15:31] <semitones> But how can I escape it now?
[15:31] <semitones> The virtual terminals don't work :/
[15:32] <Maximalist> im trying to full disk encrypt with veracrypt, but my drive is partitioned and will only let me do one of the partitions. If Im trying to encrypt the startup disk, would I ecrypt the one that is labeled EFI/Boot? Or the one with the largest amount of storage?
[15:33] <semitones> You'd probably want to encrypt the partition with your files, etc, which would not be the small boot partition. But it would be a good idea to verify what files are on which partition before you act
[15:34] <semitones> Unless you want to encrypt the boot partition and let your personal files be not encrypted?
[15:37] <Maximalist> semitones: Would not encrypting the boot partition do anything?
[15:38] <oerheks> Maximalist, what guide do you follow?
[15:39] <dirtcastle_> I use 2 ssd. One has windows and another has ubuntu. Trying to install gentoo on it.
[15:39] <dirtcastle_> when I choose ubuntu in grub it doesn't boot into ubuntu but I keep getting this error /dev/sda2: clean files , blocks. i tried to install gentoo through chroot. I tampered with fstab of gentoo. But not ubuntu's.
[15:39] <dirtcastle_> Partition & filesystem info : https://imgur.com/a/zsW8Ije
[15:39] <oerheks> 'install gentoo through chroot'?? why?
[15:39] <Maximalist> oerheks: not following a guide, just havent encountered this before so just looking for a little clarity
[15:42] <tomreyn> Maximalist: have you considered other options, such as dm-crypt/LUKS?
[15:43] <tomreyn> if you're looking for an option which includes encrypting the (linux) operating system, this may a better option.
[15:44] <tomreyn> (i don't think veracrypt supports this mode of operation with linux)
[15:44] <Guest84> hello is xubuntu-related questions allowed here? thanks
[15:45] <tomreyn> Guest84: yes, but yopu may have better luck qith questions regarding the graphical frontend in #xubuntu - feel free to try here, though
[15:45] <Maximalist> tomreyn: is veracrypt not very good to use with linux?
[15:45] <oerheks> Guest84, hi, sure, and there is also #xubuntu here on #libera
[15:46] <tomreyn> Maximalist: i lack experience there. but ... see above.
[15:46] <oerheks> Maximalist, veracrypt is fine, opensource, but i have no guide for full disk encryption
[15:47] <oerheks> fat32/efi partition should be not touched, AFAIK
[15:49] <tomreyn> veracrypt does not support FDE on Linux according to https://www.veracrypt.fr/en/Supported%20Systems%20for%20System%20Encryption.html
[15:49] <Guest84> got it thanks will try my luck here first lol. currently installing virtualbox from repository. running xubuntu 21.10 and windows 10 in dual boot config (separate drives). during install there's an untitled window asking for secure boot config. couldn't close it. should i proceed or disable secure boot first? thanks
[15:52] <tomreyn> Guest84: up to you. on some computers, installations can fail if secureboot remains enabled. and some require drivers which are not secureboot signed by default, meaning you would need to manually sign them.
[15:57] <tomreyn> Guest84: note also that if the other OS is expecting to boot in secureboot mode, disabling it now might cause it some issues - but that'd be more of a topic for a support channel for that OS.
[15:59] <Guest84> okay got it. is manual signing difficult and will it affect security if i continue with the secure boot config?
[16:01] <oerheks> !info mokutil
[16:03] <dirtcastle_> tomreyn: do u remember me. from yesterday. ubuntu gentoo windows guy. i got the data u asked for.
[16:06] <leftyfb> dirtcastle_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:06] <tomreyn> dirtcastle_: yes. do you remember my follow-up questions to it?
[16:09] <filename> no
[16:09] <leftyfb> filename: can we help you with something?
[16:17] <Guest84> ok so i proceeded with the secure boot config
[16:18] <Guest84> why does xubuntu need it for virtualbox? noob question
[16:20] <tomreyn> Guest84: any 'drivers', so (linux) kernel modules, which are loaded on a system where secure boot is in operation, need to be signed, too.
[16:20] <tomreyn> virtualbox brings along extra kernel modules
[16:22] <filename>  leftyfb, yes, send moneys
[16:22] <Guest84> i see. so everything should be good then, like no security risk and all
[16:23] <filename> yeah
[16:24] <tomreyn> !ot | filename
[16:24] <dobbicorp> if i have command like this: rsync -avxP /dir /dir2    and it got interrupted, if i re issue this exact same command will it continue to copy ?
[16:24] <dobbicorp> or will it start over again
[16:26] <oerheks> the -P keeps partial transferred files
[16:28] <gladys> do you need ioctl to read event types with libevdev. do i need to pass EV_REL into ioctl if im not setting
[16:29] <Guest84> ok thanks guys
[16:29] <gladys> i was calling libevdev_event_type_get_name & .._has_event()
[16:29] <tomreyn> gladys: this is not a programming channel.
[16:30] <gladys> except in reverse order but i think it may be the fd
[16:30] <gladys> oh okay
[17:20] <MattWThomas> dobbicorp It should continue
[17:23] <MattWThomas> I do it all the time
[17:34] <ph88> hey guys, i try to do do-release-upgrade but it says to first install all updates. When i do apt upgrade it says 15 packages have been kept back .. what to do now ?
[17:36] <MattWThomas> sudo apt dist-upgrade
[17:38] <MattWThomas> wow
[17:38] <MattWThomas> network issues?
[17:39] <Tinkery> :O
[17:41] <sybariten> hey hey, i'm using glances which is a process monitor. I am having strange (?) issues of it exiting spontaneously, if i do cursor down. Is this normal perhaps?
[17:41] <sybariten> its like a curses app... i think... so i expected to be able to scroll a cursor over different processes and then kill them
[17:41] <ph88> thanks MattWThomas
[17:42] <dobbicorp> MattWThomas: thank you
[17:42] <MattWThomas> no problem!
[17:43] <ph88> I have a laptop (not the one i just asked question about dist upgrade) ... that is on disk usage 100% .. i aborted linux boot after waiting a long time, now in windows boot finally i was able to open task manager. Could be a hardware issue here ? somehow to do something about SSD samsung 840 pro 250 GB ?
[17:44] <Ravage> ph88: samsung has tools to check the health status. maybe try that?
[17:44] <Ravage> i think its calles samsung magician
[17:45] <ph88> Ravage, good idea !
[17:46] <ph88> will only take long to isntall because just opening task menu takes like 15 minutes
[17:51] <tomreyn> ph88: you can always boot from a ubuntu live / installer written to an usb stick
[17:51] <tomreyn> !smart | ph88
[17:53] <ph88> thanks tomreyn :)
[17:57] <tomreyn> ph88: if you'll do this, make sure you also have a look at your system logs (you can also share them on a pastebin).
[18:24] <dirtcastle_> tomreyn: u asked for partition and filesystem details. I'll get the whole convo if this isn't enough.
[18:26] <tomreyn> dirtcastle_: here's what i wrote after you posted the image and before you timed out. also to be found on https://irclogs.ubuntu.com <tomreyn> dirtcastle: ext3? more likely ext4, right? <tomreyn> dirtcastle: didn't you say ubuntus /boot file system was on the windows disk? <dirtcastle> [..] windows and ubuntu are in different ssd. boot partition of Ubuntu is on window's ssd
[18:28] <dirtcastle_> tomreyn: it's ext4
[18:33] <dirtcastle_> i read the logs. also the /boot partition is on windows ssd tomreyn
[18:34] <dirtcastle_> tomreyn:  now I registered to an irc bouncer (& i know where the logs are at rn) so reply even when I'm not here.
[18:34] <tomreyn> dirtcastle_: but the ssd which seems to contain the windows stuff only shows as one partition on your screen shot.
[18:34] <tomreyn> how can /boot be on there
[18:42] <tomreyn> dirtcastle_: before you spend a lot more time on this, it may be the easiest to reinstall ubuntu.
[18:42] <tomreyn> (and restore backups)
[18:43] <devilboy> Hi everyone
[18:44] <oerheks> :-)
[18:44] <devilboy> Regarding AutoStartup on ubuntu - I have set Skype as AutoStart but it won't show in Startup Applications
[18:44] <devilboy> is that normal ?
[18:46] <enigma9o7[m]> Different ways of starting it probably.
[18:46] <enigma9o7[m]> Startup applications are started by your desktop.
[18:46] <enigma9o7[m]> Skype may have its own method to autostart.
[18:47] <oerheks> does ~/.config/autostart/Skype.desktop  exist?
[18:48] <devilboy> hmm, yes. Is there a way to see all startup applications of ubuntu ? or list the ones not officially startup by ubuntu ?
[18:48] <oerheks> i see that the forums are under maintenance, "On Ubuntu 20.04 with Skype version 8.73, there is option in the settings to disable autostart."
[18:48] <enigma9o7[m]> systemd starts tons of stuff
[18:49] <enigma9o7[m]> and likely skype leverages that
[18:49] <enigma9o7[m]> or it installs its own service
[18:49] <devilboy> I have removed Skype from autostart now, as I understood Startup Applications (GUI) is in case to add manually/additionally an application.
[18:54] <devilboy> Thank you both enigma9o7[m] & oerheks
[19:18] <devilboy> I came back :p  ubuntu 20.04.4 detects only 6,7GB ram from my 8GB ram. BIOS shows all 8GB ram. What's wrong here? :D
[19:20] <devilboy> mem: 6904 swap: 2047
[19:20] <devilboy> swap is using my other 1,3GB ram ?
[19:22] <cbreak> you're using a GPU with shared memory?
[19:23] <cbreak> devilboy: as root, or via sudo, run 'lshw -C memory'
[19:23] <devilboy> cbreak, I'm using ubuntu 20.04.4 (64bit) freshly installed. Noticed in about info 6,7GiB but I have 8GB (confirmed in BIOS by pressing F12)
[19:24] <devilboy> on it now
[19:24] <devilboy> result: 7GiB (1GiB is missing somewhere in ubuntu)
[19:25] <MattWThomas> It should be 7.5GiB
[19:25] <cbreak> devilboy: did you run it as root?
[19:25] <cbreak> it should tell you the individual modules you have built in your system
[19:25] <MattWThomas> 8GB is 7.5GiB
[19:25] <devilboy> as root, I will perform sudo lshw -C memory ?
[19:25] <cbreak> MattWThomas: RAM is sized in GiB, not like hard disks
[19:26] <cbreak> devilboy: sure.
[19:26] <devilboy> ok doing it now, let's see
[19:26] <cbreak> copy the output to paste.ubuntu.com or so
[19:27] <devilboy> cbreak, on it now thank you for the link.
[19:28] <devilboy> I need to create an account, pastebin is ok? as anonymous?
[19:28] <jhutchins> !paste
[19:29] <devilboy> ok I will create an account :D
[19:31] <cbreak> I wouldn't expect having to create an account for this :/ ah well...
[19:32] <devilboy> !pastebinit
[19:33] <devilboy> hmm I will see, all usernames I set are taken lol
[19:33] <shadow255> devilboy: sudo lshw -C memory | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:33] <shadow255> no account needed
[19:36] <randy__> Anybody here on Bodhi Linux?
[19:37] <erik_> No but I heard good things about it.
[19:37] <devilboy> shadow255 cbreak - here is my pastebin https://is.gd/24mfGS
[19:37] <devilboy> by 0bin.net
[19:37] <erik_> Are you liking it?
[19:38] <randy__> 6.0 is great I love it!  But 6.1 is in Beta -- 2 versions -- Moksha and old school Enlighten ment
[19:39] <randy__> Its great!
[19:40] <randy__> Linux Mint is my daily driver, but I'm running Bodh on a 15 year old laptop
[19:41] <cbreak> devilboy: you have an 8 GB dimm
[19:41] <randy__> Try it, and give em some love
[19:41] <cbreak> and a free slot it seems
[19:42] <devilboy> cbreak, bios detects 8GB, what do you mean by a free slot ?
[19:42] <cbreak> a place to put more memory module
[19:42] <cbreak> I suspect you have some device that reserves memory, or just memory used by the kernel
[19:42] <cbreak> like an iGPU
[19:43] <cbreak> lshw -C display might give you a hint
[19:43] <devilboy> hmm ok, so my memory is 8GB but something is using 1,3GB in my ubuntu and in about system it shows only 6,7 as free ram available?
[19:44] <randy__> I have an HP 6910p laptop running 4gb DDR2 RAM, and a Sandisk X100 SSD
[19:45] <randy__> Bodhi keeps getting better wih each release - works well!
[19:46] <cbreak> devilboy: that's my hypothesis
[19:46] <devilboy> cbreak, https://is.gd/uKufJ4
[19:46] <cbreak> I mean, 8 GB is a very small amount
[19:46] <cbreak> so it's probably a cheap / low end system
[19:46] <cbreak> those are the ones where I'd suspect an iGPU to be used
[19:47] <devilboy> yes but even cheap or not ubuntu should detect full ram as 8GB instead of 6,7GB :P
[19:47] <jhutchins> 8gb is plenty of RAM for a general purpose system.
[19:48] <cbreak> devilboy: it does
[19:48] <cbreak> it shows you the ram in lshw, and probably also in dmidecode
[19:48] <devilboy> hmm, so usable is 6,7 from 8?
[19:48] <cbreak> but some of the memory appears to be used
[19:49] <cbreak> I only have 62.7 GB available from 64 installed
[19:49] <devilboy> ok :P  so it's showing me in GUI the available memory, that confused me before :P
[19:49] <jhutchins> Most Linux distros will run just fine in 4G, it's a matter of how many simultaneous tasks you run, or if you're working with very large files.
[19:49] <cbreak> jhutchins: and whether you use a modern web browser...
[19:49] <devilboy> ok now I have confirmed what I see :P
[19:50] <devilboy> thank you all guys :P  cbreak you confirmed my q. :D
[19:51] <jhutchins> cbreak: Keep your tabs under control and 4G will be fine.
[19:51] <cbreak> I have less than 100 tabs, most of the time
[19:51] <cbreak> ... well, less than 200 for sure
[19:51] <cbreak> most windows barely have 10 tabs open
[19:52] <devilboy> hahahaha
[19:52] <cbreak> well, not that I'd have to care, since I paid a fortune for a lot of ECC memory
[19:52] <devilboy> not switching back to any win things ;p
[19:53] <cbreak> devilboy: if you don't like windows, maybe you want to try out a tiling window manager
[19:53] <cbreak> those are also less memory intensive than kde plasma, which is what I use, or the gnome thing that comes with ubuntu default
[19:54] <cbreak> I've tried i3 for a bit. It's annoying to use. But some people like it.
[19:54] <cbreak> and there are many more
[19:54] <devilboy> I have ubuntu default, 20.04.4 to be honest 100% satisfied. Mr. Gates, tried to destroy my laptop with their recent update. Not anymore.
[19:54] <cbreak> mr. gates isn't working at ms anymore.
[19:55] <cbreak> balmer's out as well
[19:55] <devilboy> hahaha ;p am not updated lol
[19:55] <cbreak> I think... satja nadella is the current CEO? not sure about the spelling of that name.
[19:55] <devilboy> Canonical & you guys - Ubuntu Family / Community - All the way!
[20:52] <Guest60> hellow
[20:59] <Ravage> hi Guest60. what is your Ubuntu support question?
[22:24] <blei> i'm getting E: Unable to locate package criu  on focal
[22:25] <blei> obv, because its not there :)
[22:26] <cbreak> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=criu&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[22:26] <blei> looks like it disappeared for a while
[22:30] <tomreyn> this can happen if a package is unmaintained upstream and/or has unresolvable dependencies in a given release
[22:31] <blei> criu is pretty cool so a from-source build isn't a big deal
[22:31] <tomreyn> most packages in !universe are imported from debian, and the debian package tracker will tell you why it was removed from debian by the time an ubuntu release was forming.
[22:38] <ph88> i have one laptop was doing a release upgrade ... then it got to the point where it asked to remove old programs ... then it crashed. Then on restart i go to wallpaper background with mouse working but login box is not coming up, what to do ?
[22:39] <tomreyn> what does "it crashed" mean?
[22:40] <tomreyn> !tty
[22:41] <tomreyn> ^ login there, install any pending updates, clean out packages no longer needed, make sure "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt full-upgrade" runs without errors or warnings
[22:43] <tomreyn> and later, make sure this only returns packages you still need and are comfortable at maintaining manually (regularly looking for and installing upgrades manually): apt list --installed | grep ',local\]$' | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:47] <ph88> tomreyn, it means the session stopped, i logged in again .. do-release-upgrade terminal window was gone. Then after restart, login box doesnt show again
[22:50] <tomreyn> ph88: i see. out of interest, which ubuntu release did you upgrade from and to? did you have 3rd party packages installed? which graphics card + driver?
[22:50] <ph88> when i install 22.04 daily build now .. will it become a normal LTS release after lts is released ?
[22:51] <ph88> tomreyn, ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04  yes 3rd party packages, but forgot which ones, graphics card and driver i dont know. maybe integrated in atom processort
[22:51] <guiverc> ph88, if you apply all upgrades yes
[22:51] <tomreyn> yes, but what will be 22.04 is unsupported *here* for now, try #ubuntu-next
[22:52] <tomreyn> ph88: well, see if you can make progress from the tty
[22:52] <ph88> tomreyn, yes will do, right now i booted into windows, will try it asap
[22:54] <tomreyn> it is generally good to have a system in a supported state when you start a release upgrade. that's no ppa packages / package versions installed (unless you're sure it will be fine), because otherwise you choose an untested migration path.
[22:54] <ph88> oki
[23:32] <Ravage> The GUI crashing on an upgrade to 22.04 happened to me too. I was smarter the second time and ran it from console
[23:33] <guiverc> Ravage, Ubuntu jammy (still in alpha; it's not 22.04 until it reaches RC) is off-topic here, you can use #ubuntu-next
[23:35] <sexoffender> YAY!! PORNHUB TIME!
[23:35] <Jeremy31> get out
[23:35] <Ravage> Good movie