| ph88 | hey guys, i just installed Lubuntu 22.04 daily image fresh. Installation went fine. On first boot i see this https://imgur.com/a/B8NrJdW what to do ? | 09:17 |
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| guiverc2 | ph88, can you login via text terminal? | 09:41 |
| * guiverc2 is busy with real life currently; can't provide much guidance currently sorry; but if you used 21.10 without issue, media validated successfully - issue is likely with 5.15 kernel stack. Lubuntu doesn't include closed-source video drivers so it's open-source only on initial install | 09:43 | |
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| ph88 | guiverc, login via text terminal .. i dont know how to do that. I didn't try 21.10. Closed-source might be necessary. I have these video chips GMA 3150 + ION 2 https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-ION-2.24292.0.html a | 09:45 |
| guiverc | try Ctrl+Alt+F4 to switch to a text terminal & can you login with your created user id/password? If the live system worked correctly; I'd hope installed would too though | 09:46 |
| ph88 | guiverc, alt + ctrl + F4 combination doesn't do anything at this point | 09:49 |
| alkisg | ph88: while booting, press esc to show the grub menu. From there, go advanced options and select recovery. Does that get you to a blue menu with some recovery options? | 09:51 |
| ph88 | alkisg, yes i get to blue recovery screen | 09:54 |
| alkisg | ph88: nice, now try "continue booting" | 09:54 |
| ph88 | resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, gutb, network, root, system-summary | 09:54 |
| alkisg | Resume | 09:55 |
| ph88 | alkisg, then i see a black screen with a white underline cursor blinking ... so far nothing else is showing | 09:55 |
| alkisg | (this essentially enabled the "nomodeset" option, for failsafe graphics, it will tell us if it's related to video issues) | 09:55 |
| alkisg | Right, I didn't think it was related to video as you had too many failed services | 09:56 |
| alkisg | Did you see any errors while installing? It sounds like things didn't go to plan | 09:56 |
| ph88 | alkisg, i wasnt watching when it was installing | 09:56 |
| alkisg | In the end, did it have any error dialogs? | 09:57 |
| ph88 | i used graphical installer ... no errors poped up from there | 09:57 |
| alkisg | OK | 09:57 |
| alkisg | Let's try the recovery screen once more. From there, first enable networking, and then get the root shell | 09:57 |
| ph88 | ok | 09:58 |
| ph88 | alkisg, network brought me a popup and then went back to blue recovery screen | 10:00 |
| alkisg | OK, now select the root shell | 10:01 |
| ph88 | press enter for maintenance or ctrl+d for continue ? | 10:01 |
| alkisg | Enter | 10:01 |
| ph88 | ok im there | 10:01 |
| alkisg | While at the root shell, run: apt update; apt full-upgrade --yes | 10:01 |
| alkisg | Let's see if updates work or if they report something horribly broken | 10:02 |
| ph88 | alkisg, https://imgur.com/a/LGH5xd9 | 10:03 |
| alkisg | Your file system is read-only. This indicates an error with the hardware, the file system (fsck needed), or /etc/fstab | 10:04 |
| alkisg | It'll be faster to troubleshoot it from a live media. Can you boot from the live USB? | 10:04 |
| ph88 | alkisg, sorry i have to go now i have an appointment. I will try to ping you later. Or leave me some instructions and i will try them as soon as i come back | 10:04 |
| ph88 | thanks a lot for your help | 10:04 |
| alkisg | OK | 10:04 |
| guiverc | thanks alkisg :) | 11:23 |
| lotuspsychje | maybe related to the above, bug #1964705 | 12:25 |
| ubottu | Bug 1964705 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity crash on daily build - cannot install" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1964705 | 12:25 |
| ph88 | alkisg, are you here ? | 13:21 |
| xu-contribute23w | Hey, is wayland an xubuntu 22.04 feature? | 15:56 |
| Maik | don't think so | 15:57 |
| xu-contribute23w | why? xfce doesn't support it? | 15:59 |
| Maik | exactly | 15:59 |
| xu-contribute23w | What about lubuntu? | 15:59 |
| Maik | i think up to now only main ubuntu will support wayland, they've done so since 20.10 | 16:00 |
| Maik | the other desktops aren't ready yet | 16:01 |
| xu-contribute23w | ok | 16:01 |
| Maik | Xfce 4.18 might get support for wayland | 16:01 |
| Maik | https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap | 16:01 |
| alkisg | ph88: here; did you see the link that lotuspsychje posted, that reports a broken installer? In any case, if you think this wasn't the issue, boot with the live usb so that we can take a look from there | 16:01 |
| xu-contribute23w | yeah, but xfce hasn't been updated in 2 years, it could take a while | 16:03 |
| Maik | xfce development takes a while but is stable in the end | 16:04 |
| Maik | 4.17 is the development version of Xfce which will lead to 4.18 | 16:04 |
| ph88 | alkisg, no i didn't see this link, got disconnected. I have similar problems with another laptop (also an old model) ... i will try on both laptops to reinstall Lubuntu but not with GPT just MBR. After reinstall when there are still problems i will boot into live cd so we can have a look | 16:05 |
| Maik | xu-contribute23w: But Xubuntu only takes stable releases, thus your stuck with 4.16 for 3 more years on the upcomming LTS. | 16:05 |
| xu-contribute23w | by then, I'm sure if we get XFCE 4.16 for 22.10, I'm imagining 24.04 will be extra stable. | 16:07 |
| xu-contribute23w | I thought LTS was 2 every years? | 16:07 |
| Maik | yes but i'm talking about the support cycle which is 3 years | 16:08 |
| xu-contribute23w | ah | 16:08 |
| ph88 | alkisg, i reinstalled with MBR instead of GPT ... same problem. now im booting into live ISO | 16:49 |
| FurretUber | Hi, how do I debug appindicator problems? xfce4-panel fails to show appindicator icons, and even using PANEL_DEBUG, no messages related to appindicator appear | 16:59 |
| FurretUber | Meanwhile, systray icons debug messages appear | 17:01 |
| ph88^ | i ran ubuntu-drivers devices ... no graphics card found. I expected a graphics card to be found. What could be wrong ? | 23:13 |
| gry | ph88^, what graphics card is it ? | 23:21 |
| gry | does it work for you on 20.04 | 23:21 |
| gry | i.e., did it work befor | 23:21 |
| gry | e | 23:21 |
| ph88^ | gry, https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-ION-2.24292.0.html i never checked if it worked before | 23:22 |
| guiverc | ph88^, fyi: Lubuntu is still using the same LXQt as used in impish/21.10; the DE we want to have is still in salsa.debian.org & hasn't moved to a stage we can import it into Ubuntu yet | 23:25 |
| ph88^ | DE ? | 23:25 |
| guiverc | the ubuntu base on Lubuntu jammy has upgraded; but LXQt/Lubuntu is mostly just 21.10 (DE=desktop) | 23:26 |
| ph88^ | guiverc, is it not yet lxqt 1.0 ? | 23:26 |
| guiverc | nope; that's still in salsa.debian.org & cannot yet be imported | 23:26 |
| ph88^ | aw | 23:26 |
| ph88^ | i also noticed wayland is not active, is that because of the same reason ? | 23:26 |
| ph88^ | guiverc, is there still enough time for the developers to get wayland and lxqt 1.0 in the 22.04 version ? | 23:27 |
| guiverc | LXQt is Xorg - the X character.. LWQt is the wayland test desktop; it's not suppported by Lubuntu and is only for testing purposes (not production ready) | 23:27 |
| ph88^ | aaaaahhh | 23:27 |
| ph88^ | what is L light ? | 23:27 |
| guiverc | Ubuntu jammy is still alpha; beta freeze is 28-March with beta release 31-Mar, so yes we're running short of time, but still have some | 23:28 |
| guiverc | yep l=light | 23:28 |
| guiverc | (at this late stage it's more complex to get it into jammy as freeze exceptions are now involved) | 23:29 |
| ph88^ | guiverc, are you doing work on Lubuntu ? | 23:29 |
| guiverc | I'm a Lubuntu team member yes; but not a dev | 23:30 |
| ph88^ | guiverc, just out of curiosity .. where does the lwqt source code live ? | 23:30 |
| guiverc | github; it's talked about in various threads on https://github.com/lxqt with test code/forks at places like https://github.com/Mark-4158/lwqt-session/releases | 23:33 |
| guiverc | LWQt isn't ready for production as I stated; no actual site exists for it yet; it's only forks made for testing purposes/problem-detection etc | 23:33 |
| ph88^ | ye that'S cool, i wont try to run that yet | 23:34 |
| guiverc | ph88^, sorry I should have given this too; it's probably the best place to go to understand Wayland & LXQt - https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/10 | 23:37 |
| ubottu | Issue 10 in lxqt/lxqt "Wayland support" [Open] | 23:37 |
| ph88^ | guiverc, that one i already found :p | 23:38 |
| guiverc | :) | 23:38 |
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