[09:17] <ph88> hey guys, i just installed Lubuntu 22.04 daily image fresh. Installation went fine. On first boot i see this https://imgur.com/a/B8NrJdW  what to do ?
[09:41] <guiverc2> ph88, can you login via text terminal?
[09:43]  * guiverc2 is busy with real life currently; can't provide much guidance currently sorry; but if you used 21.10 without issue, media validated successfully - issue is likely with 5.15 kernel stack.  Lubuntu doesn't include closed-source video drivers so it's open-source only on initial install
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[09:45] <ph88> guiverc, login via text terminal .. i dont know how to do that. I didn't try 21.10. Closed-source might be necessary. I have these video chips GMA 3150 + ION 2  https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-ION-2.24292.0.html  a
[09:46] <guiverc> try Ctrl+Alt+F4 to switch to a text terminal & can you login with your created user id/password?  If the live system worked correctly; I'd hope installed would too though
[09:49] <ph88> guiverc, alt + ctrl + F4 combination doesn't do anything at this point
[09:51] <alkisg> ph88: while booting, press esc to show the grub menu. From there, go advanced options and select recovery. Does that get you to a blue menu with some recovery options?
[09:54] <ph88> alkisg, yes i get to blue recovery screen
[09:54] <alkisg> ph88: nice, now try "continue booting"
[09:54] <ph88> resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, gutb, network, root, system-summary
[09:55] <alkisg> Resume
[09:55] <ph88> alkisg, then i see a black screen with a white underline cursor blinking ... so far nothing else is showing
[09:55] <alkisg> (this essentially enabled the "nomodeset" option, for failsafe graphics, it will tell us if it's related to video issues)
[09:56] <alkisg> Right, I didn't think it was related to video as you had too many failed services
[09:56] <alkisg> Did you see any errors while installing? It sounds like things didn't go to plan
[09:56] <ph88> alkisg, i wasnt watching when it was installing
[09:57] <alkisg> In the end, did it have any error dialogs?
[09:57] <ph88> i used graphical installer ... no errors poped up from there
[09:57] <alkisg> OK
[09:57] <alkisg> Let's try the recovery screen once more. From there, first enable networking, and then get the root shell
[09:58] <ph88> ok
[10:00] <ph88> alkisg, network brought me a popup and then went back to blue recovery screen
[10:01] <alkisg> OK, now select the root shell
[10:01] <ph88> press enter for maintenance or ctrl+d for continue ?
[10:01] <alkisg> Enter
[10:01] <ph88> ok im there
[10:01] <alkisg> While at the root shell, run: apt update; apt full-upgrade --yes
[10:02] <alkisg> Let's see if updates work or if they report something horribly broken
[10:03] <ph88> alkisg, https://imgur.com/a/LGH5xd9
[10:04] <alkisg> Your file system is read-only. This indicates an error with the hardware, the file system (fsck needed), or /etc/fstab
[10:04] <alkisg> It'll be faster to troubleshoot it from a live media. Can you boot from the live USB?
[10:04] <ph88> alkisg, sorry i have to go now i have an appointment. I will try to ping you later. Or leave me some instructions and i will try them as soon as i come back
[10:04] <ph88> thanks a lot for your help
[10:04] <alkisg> OK
[11:23] <guiverc> thanks alkisg :)
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> maybe related to the above, bug #1964705
[12:25] <ubottu> Bug 1964705 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity crash on daily build - cannot install" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1964705
[13:21] <ph88> alkisg, are you here ?
[15:56] <xu-contribute23w> Hey, is wayland an xubuntu 22.04 feature?
[15:57] <Maik> don't think so
[15:59] <xu-contribute23w> why? xfce doesn't support it?
[15:59] <Maik> exactly
[15:59] <xu-contribute23w> What about lubuntu?
[16:00] <Maik> i think up to now only main ubuntu will support wayland, they've done so since 20.10
[16:01] <Maik> the other desktops aren't ready yet
[16:01] <xu-contribute23w> ok
[16:01] <Maik> Xfce 4.18 might get support for wayland
[16:01] <Maik> https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap
[16:01] <alkisg> ph88: here; did you see the link that lotuspsychje posted, that reports a broken installer? In any case, if you think this wasn't the issue, boot with the live usb so that we can take a look from there
[16:03] <xu-contribute23w> yeah, but xfce hasn't been updated in 2 years, it could take a while
[16:04] <Maik> xfce development takes a while but is stable in the end
[16:04] <Maik> 4.17 is the development version of Xfce which will lead to 4.18
[16:05] <ph88> alkisg, no i didn't see this link, got disconnected. I have similar problems with another laptop (also an old model) ... i will try on both laptops to reinstall Lubuntu but not with GPT just MBR. After reinstall when there are still problems i will boot into live cd so we can have a look
[16:05] <Maik> xu-contribute23w: But Xubuntu only takes stable releases, thus your stuck with 4.16 for 3 more years on the upcomming LTS.
[16:07] <xu-contribute23w> by then, I'm sure if we get XFCE 4.16 for 22.10, I'm imagining 24.04 will be extra stable.
[16:07] <xu-contribute23w> I thought LTS was 2 every years?
[16:08] <Maik> yes but i'm talking about the support cycle which is 3 years
[16:08] <xu-contribute23w> ah
[16:49] <ph88> alkisg, i reinstalled with MBR instead of GPT ... same problem. now im booting into live ISO
[16:59] <FurretUber> Hi, how do I debug appindicator problems? xfce4-panel fails to show appindicator icons, and even using PANEL_DEBUG, no messages related to appindicator appear
[17:01] <FurretUber> Meanwhile, systray icons debug messages appear
[23:13] <ph88^> i ran  ubuntu-drivers devices   ... no graphics card found. I expected a graphics card to be found. What could be wrong ?
[23:21] <gry> ph88^, what graphics card is it ?
[23:21] <gry> does it work for you on 20.04
[23:21] <gry> i.e., did it work befor
[23:21] <gry> e
[23:22] <ph88^> gry, https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-ION-2.24292.0.html   i never checked if it worked before
[23:25] <guiverc> ph88^, fyi: Lubuntu is still using the same LXQt as used in impish/21.10; the DE we want to have is still in salsa.debian.org & hasn't moved to a stage we can import it into Ubuntu yet
[23:25] <ph88^> DE ?
[23:26] <guiverc> the ubuntu base on Lubuntu jammy has upgraded; but LXQt/Lubuntu is mostly just 21.10  (DE=desktop)
[23:26] <ph88^> guiverc, is it not yet lxqt 1.0 ? 
[23:26] <guiverc> nope; that's still in salsa.debian.org & cannot yet be imported
[23:26] <ph88^> aw
[23:26] <ph88^> i also noticed wayland is not active, is that because of the same reason ?
[23:27] <ph88^> guiverc, is there still enough time for the developers to get wayland and lxqt 1.0 in the 22.04 version ? 
[23:27] <guiverc> LXQt is Xorg - the X character.. LWQt is the wayland test desktop; it's not suppported by Lubuntu and is only for testing purposes (not production ready)
[23:27] <ph88^> aaaaahhh
[23:27] <ph88^> what is L  light ?
[23:28] <guiverc> Ubuntu jammy is still alpha; beta freeze is 28-March with beta release 31-Mar, so yes we're running short of time, but still have some
[23:28] <guiverc> yep l=light
[23:29] <guiverc> (at this late stage it's more complex to get it into jammy as freeze exceptions are now involved)
[23:29] <ph88^> guiverc, are you doing work on Lubuntu ?
[23:30] <guiverc> I'm a Lubuntu team member yes; but not a dev
[23:30] <ph88^> guiverc, just out of curiosity .. where does the lwqt source code live ?
[23:33] <guiverc> github; it's talked about in various threads on https://github.com/lxqt  with test code/forks at places like https://github.com/Mark-4158/lwqt-session/releases
[23:33] <guiverc> LWQt isn't ready for production as I stated; no actual site exists for it yet; it's only forks made for testing purposes/problem-detection etc
[23:34] <ph88^> ye that'S cool, i wont try to run that yet
[23:37] <guiverc> ph88^, sorry I should have given this too; it's probably the best place to go to understand Wayland & LXQt - https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/10
[23:37] <ubottu> Issue 10 in lxqt/lxqt "Wayland support" [Open]
[23:38] <ph88^> guiverc, that one i already found :p
[23:38] <guiverc> :)