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knomepleia2, bluesabre: our dev server is really slow for me even if i have a relatively decent 100/100 line. very likely because it's in the states. wonder if anything can be done for this.12:10
FurretUberHi, I'm trying to understand the problems I'm having with the panel notification icons on my install14:25
FurretUberIt's being challenging, as it's not obvious to me what is making a clean install behave so differently from an upgraded install14:25
FurretUberOn the clean install, notification icons and systray icons work properly, but on the upgraded install, it's being very inconsistent14:27
FurretUberComparing them, I can see that the Indicator Plugin on the clean install shows no icons, while on the upgraded install they are shown there14:27
FurretUberOn the clean install, the systray shows all icons, while on the upgraded install, systray may or may not show the icons14:28
FurretUberHere is a picture showing the difference. Right click on nm-applet was used on both, top is upgraded host, bottom is live VM: https://i.imgur.com/Rvo5B1c.png14:29
FurretUberI even tried copying the xml from the VM to the host, kill xfconfd on host to replace it, and it still didn't fix14:29
FurretUberAnother picture, on VM it shows the nm-applet, on host it doesn't: https://i.imgur.com/jlOK8ac.png14:36
FurretUberAnd I don't know why this difference exists 😭️14:36
FurretUberHow do I debug appindicator problems? xfce4-panel fails to show appindicator icons, and even using PANEL_DEBUG, no messages related to appindicator appear. Meanwhile, systray icons debug messages appear17:10
FurretUberI think I found the problem: it's the bug 175662717:22
ubottuBug 1756627 in xfce4-statusnotifier-plugin (Ubuntu) "status notifier can't see appindicators which are started after it" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175662717:22
FurretUberIt's happening with the systray too17:22
FurretUberAnd for systray, I reported bug 194958917:26
ubottuBug 1949589 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "appindicator icons don't appear if they are enabled after the panel was started" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194958917:26
FurretUberYou have no idea how happy I am that I finally found what was causing this bug. It was annoying me for 4 months!17:37

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