[00:05] <sybariten> hey hey, i'm using glances which is a process monitor. I am having strange (?) issues with it exiting spontaneously... if i do cursor down. Is this normal perhaps?
[00:06] <sybariten> its like a curses app... i think. So i expected to be able to scroll a marker "line" over different processes , when i press cursors. and then be able to kill them. But the app closes
[00:56] <kinghat> anyone using vscode snap? having trouble getting my ssh keys inside of a remote container to push to remote origin and i think its because its a snap. though when you install the snap it says it has unrestricted access to host so 🤷‍♂️
[01:20] <kinghat> i dont think its snap as the ms repo version isnt working
[01:25] <lotuspsychje> kinghat: for specific snap support; enter snap info snapname in terminal to see where the support is at
[01:25] <oops> i ready to add a offline API html link to favorite side bar , how to do it?
[01:25] <gry> oops. does drag and drop work?
[01:25] <Ravage> kinghat: in general check out https://vscodium.com/ its the better oss version and they have a PPA that works just fine
[01:38] <oops> gry: there hava a problem the favorite side bar can't appear when dragging desired file, it be configured auto-hide mode, it seems i can't fix it on left side bar although i set auto-hide dock off in appearance
[01:39] <oops> does it need reboot ?
[02:17] <kinghat> i dont want ppas though, i want it in snap or flatpak
[02:21] <semitones> i closed the lid of my laptop, and when I opened it, there is a message saying "Authentication Required / [...] to run gvfsd-admin daemon"
[02:22] <semitones> pressing cancel does not make it disappear. Typing the password and pressing enter makes the password box gray out, but the dialog still doesn't disappear
[02:22] <semitones> also I cannot move it, and it is always on top of everything, in the top left corner
[02:25] <semitones> logging in and out made it go away
[02:26] <DavidSaylor41040> so you're okay now?
[02:27] <semitones> yeah i pressed the super key, typed logout, and clicked the logout app.
[02:27] <semitones> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1274591/gvfsd-admin-daemon-authentication-forces-me-to-restart-ubuntu-very-annoying
[02:27] <semitones> looks like it is a common thing
[02:29] <semitones> til if you do "r" in alt-f2 it restarts gnome. wonder if it does it in a terminal too
[02:33] <DavidSaylor41040> i hit ctrl+alt+F5 the other day for first time and had to google on my phone how to fix that lol
[02:35] <semitones> i'm afraid to try it lol
[02:52] <DavidSaylor41040> yea its like ctrl+alt + arrow keys to get out of it
[02:53] <DavidSaylor41040> its like flipping through different tasks or some shit idk
[02:53] <RingtailedFox> is there a way to go about removing a folder from path? i added it at the beginning to my path but i think i made a spelling mistake on it...
[02:54] <gry> ringrailedfox, echo $PATH
[02:54] <gry> then set it again by copy/paste
[02:55] <gry> ie if you see PATH as /home/gyr/bin:/usr/bin, you just copy/paste 'export PATH=/home/gry/bin:/usr/bin' on the next line
[02:55] <RingtailedFox> oh okie
[02:55] <jhutchins> RingtailedFox: Last setting wins.
[02:55] <RingtailedFox> i;'m using ubuntu on WSL... so it also includes windows directories... will those be preserved too? or...?
[02:56] <jhutchins> RingtailedFox: NOTHING is preserved, it's literally whatever the last command sets.
[02:57] <jhutchins> RingtailedFox: If you export PATH= you have no path.
[02:57]  * RingtailedFox nods
[02:59] <jhutchins> Windows may have other ideas, I'd check it and see.
[03:00] <RingtailedFox> yeah
[03:22] <semitones> why do ubuntu usernames also have an associated group? Like I would be semitones:semitones
[03:25] <jhutchins> semitones: I'm guessing you haven't read much about Linux.  Almost every distribution has done that since the 90's.
[03:26] <jhutchins> semitones: Older systems assigned each user to a collective group (like "users").
[03:26] <semitones> I have read some things, but I can't keep it organized in my brain. Awhile back I thought that if you were creating a new user with adduser, you'd have to do it like "adduser semitones:" in order to also create the group as well
[03:26] <semitones> but most of the tutorials just say to create the user like "adduser semitones"
[03:26] <semitones> without the semicolon
[03:26] <Ravage> my guess is to keep your files in the home directory safe even if applications give permissions to the group. but as jhutchins says the general users group is not used anymore really
[03:27] <semitones> maybe I am misremembering something else made you do user: to specify the user's group also, but not adduser
[03:28] <Ravage> semitones: thats totally fine. in ubuntu that also creates the group https://p.haxxors.com/uaq493i8.txt
[03:30] <jhutchins> O'Reilly's Running Linux is good, if a bit RH oriented.
[03:30] <jhutchins> There are some good linux admin guides out there.
[03:30] <jhutchins> And some bad ones.
[03:33] <semitones> i'm curious what my local library might have
[03:33] <DavidSaylor41040> library? they still have those?
[03:49] <shadow3d> Hello, can anyone help me to install openocd in ubuntu20?
[03:49] <shadow3d> I try "sudo apt install openocd", but there is no package nemed openocd
[03:53] <Bashing-om> !info openocd focal | shadow3d
[03:53] <Bashing-om> shadow3d: ^ insure the universe repo is enabled.
[03:57] <shadow3d> @Bashing-om
[04:01] <shadow3d> i try "info openocd focal", the terminal show "info: no menu item 'openocd' in node '(dir)Top' "
[04:01] <Bashing-om> shadow3d: In terminal ' apt show openocd ' .
[04:03] <Nick01> hello
[04:04] <Nick01> anyone home?
[04:04] <semitones> !ask
[04:04] <Nick01> ok. well, i have a wacom tablet
[04:04] <semitones> and welcome, too, Nick01 :) what's up
[04:05] <Nick01> i was wondering how i change settings to allow for scrolling with the pen
[04:05] <Nick01> dragging the pen down a webpage
[04:05] <Nick01> not hitting buttons
[04:05] <semitones> I have never used a wacom tablet but I can try to help. What have you already tried to get it working like that?
[04:06] <Nick01> cant find any settings for it
[04:06] <Nick01> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/wacom-stylus.html.en i found this
[04:06] <Nick01> but i dont know if you can set it up that way
[04:08] <semitones> did you try those options? Esp the button/scroll wheel
[04:08] <Nick01> how?
[04:08] <Nick01> i think i will try this in VM
[04:08] <shadow3d> @Bashing-om, Thanks very much, I already install openocd successfully after enable the universe which I never know before. That's open my sight, haha
[04:09] <Nick01> ubuntu has the most support, right?
[04:09] <semitones> i am not sure what it looks like on your screen; it says the options you get to choose from  depend on which wacom tablet you have
[04:09] <Bashing-om> !yah | shadow3d
[04:11] <semitones> I am heading out for the night; best of luck Nick01, hope you find what you're looking for!
[04:12] <Nick01> ok
[04:12] <Nick01> see ya
[05:53] <Lee01> i have two mouse pointers
[05:53] <Lee01> how to fix?
[05:56] <yukiup> ooh, screenshot!
[06:07] <moha> this command `parted /dev/sda --script unit s print ` can not  show the sda3, which is the lvm partition, in the list! is it the right behaviour?
[06:08] <moha> How can I get sda3 in a list with sda1 (1MB) and sda2 (/boot)? I need it to use in a script
[07:04] <rfm> moha, is this a class exercise? We're not here to help you with your homework.
[07:07] <rfm> moha, but if it is, ya need to back up to where you created the vm image...
[08:42] <weedmic> It used to be to boot into linux single at the server, you merely typed "linux single" at grub.  is what we now type in "init=/bin/bash"?
[09:15] <alkisg> weedmic: see https://devconnected.com/single-user-mode-secure-boot-on-ubuntu-debian/ ; for example `systemd.unit=rescue.target` in the command line it gets you to the rescue target
[09:19] <fozei> any one evey has this error when you start FileZilla File Server gui ?  :./filezilla-server-gui: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypt.so.1: version `XCRYPT_2.0' not found (required by /opt/filezilla-server/bin/../lib/libfilezilla.so.24)
[09:25] <fozei> I have libcrypt.so.1 indeed,but it seems the version is wrong
[09:28] <fozei> if any one has any idea,please kindly inform me by fozei@qq.com,thanks
[10:00] <help> hey guys
[10:01] <dionysus69> I have a problem regarding my full disk encryption on KDE
[10:02] <dionysus69> my update-initframs is not working properly anymore
[10:02] <dionysus69> and with a newer kernel I am getting a hang on waiting for encrypted device
[10:03] <dionysus69> this is what I get when I run update-iniframs -u https://paste.debian.net/1234117/
[10:35] <clemens3> hi, i use 20.04 and after switching from  virtual console back to the gui, i get the user selection and password screen everytime.., how can i skip that and directly get back to the gui as it was before switching?
[10:38] <alkisg> clemens3: try ctrl+alt+f8 instead of f7, I'm not using gnome but I think I once saw gdm spawn new vts...
[10:38] <carnophage2> hi
[10:44] <ph88> hey guys i updated my system from 18.04 to 20.04 restarted .. all was fine .. then i did another round of sudo apt upgrade .. then after restart when i login it goes back to the login screen .. what to do  ?
[10:50] <cbreak> ph88: have you tried using an other desktop environment?
[10:51] <cbreak> there should be a way to select different ones on the login screen, if you have multiple installed
[10:55] <ph88> cbreak, no i never attempted to switch desktop environment
[10:56] <ph88> i see my name, "not listed?"  and some options for accessibility, wifi, sound and battery top right
[10:56] <ph88> don't directly see anything about desktop environment
[10:56] <cbreak> hmm :/
[10:57] <ph88> ctrl + alt f3  works ... can i login there
[10:57] <cbreak> you could try to switch to a different TTY, and install stuff there
[10:57] <ph88> maybe some log files to check ?
[10:57] <ph88> everything should be installed already .. just login throws me back at login screen
[10:57] <cbreak> journalctl -b 0 should have logs
[10:57] <cbreak> yeah. Maybe something GUI / X related doesn't work.
[10:57] <cbreak> or Wayland related
[10:58] <cbreak> I had problems that were similar to what you described when I used the ubuntu wayland desktop
[10:58] <ph88> lots of information in journalctl .. nothing stands out at first
[10:58] <cbreak> but it worked with KDE Plasma, or the X ubuntu one
[10:59] <clemens3> alkisg: i first changed logind to use 12 consoles.. so f8 just switches to another console.. 7 and 1 are the gui consoles right now for me
[10:59] <ph88> in journalctl: failed to start gnome shell on wayland
[10:59] <cbreak> ok...
[10:59] <ph88> gnome-shell-wayland.service: failed with result 'protocol'
[11:00] <cbreak> can you switch to the X gnome shell?
[11:00] <ph88> dependency failed for gnome shell on wazland.
[11:00] <ph88> i dont know how to switch to X gnome shell
[11:01] <cbreak> there should be a selector on the login screen
[11:01] <cbreak> you could also install something completely different, like i3
[11:02] <ph88> there wasnt a selector AFAIK
[11:02] <ledeni> ph88: when you select name on login will in right bottom corner apear ⚙️ there you can change to gnome on xorg
[11:03] <ph88> oh ok
[11:03] <BlackArch> hi
[11:03] <BlackArch> need help
[11:03] <ph88> hi BlackArch
[11:04] <BlackArch> i have to do > sudo systemctl restart bluetooth every time i boot up my computer other bluetooth doesnt work
[11:04] <BlackArch> it wont start by itself on startup
[11:04] <ph88> BlackArch, maybe systemctl enable bluetooth   or    service bluetooth enable   something like this ?
[11:04] <BlackArch> and just doing *sudo systemctl start bluetooth doesnt work
[11:04] <BlackArch> seems like it needs a reset each time
[11:05] <ph88> BlackArch, some information could be hiding in   dmesg
[11:07] <BlackArch> the error message was "BlueZ Daemon not running" even tho it was
[11:14] <quantum_>  I am trying to figure out what is up with snap. It seems like a good thing but I keep all my files on network shares and it snap installed programs cannot access anything. Is there any way to fix this. If not it seems they are pretty much useless
[11:14] <BlackArch> "crash with UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec cant decode byte 0x80 in position 0 invalid start byte"
[11:19] <weedmic> cbreak - are you saying that journalctl is not working for you?
[11:20] <cbreak> no, I'm not saying that.
[11:20] <weedmic> np then
[11:22] <BlackArch> whats wrong with ubuntu mate
[11:22] <BlackArch> bluetooth only fucks up with mate
[11:22] <BlackArch> other distros i dont have that problem
[11:23] <Chunkyz> BlackArch: less of the swearing, please. thanks.
[11:33] <BlackArch> Chunkyz, are you super religious or something lol???
[11:33] <BlackArch> no swearing smh
[11:33] <Chunkyz> BlackArch: family friendly channel, rules are rules.
[11:35] <Chunkyz> !swearing | BlackArch
[11:36] <BlackArch> ?
[11:36] <BlackArch> wtf
[11:36] <BlackArch> i didnt do anything offensive
[11:36] <BlackArch> you guys are edgy af not me
[11:37] <Chunkyz> BlackArch: "<BlackArch> bluetooth only ***** up with mate
[11:37] <Chunkyz> See above, thanks.
[11:38] <BlackArch> yes? its not offensive
[11:38] <BlackArch> lmao
[11:38] <BlackArch> i didnt attack anyone at all
[11:38] <BlackArch> lmao
[11:38] <BlackArch> didnt insult anyone
[11:39] <Chunkyz> "family friendly channel" maybe you missed that bit.
[11:39] <Chunkyz> anyway, this is a support channel. what can we help you with?
[12:01] <cbreak> have you tried normal ubuntu?
[12:01] <cbreak> or kubuntu?
[12:01] <cbreak> have you tried to look at the logs?
[12:13] <reborn82> Hi I have a query regarding Active directory integration with ubuntu
[12:14] <reborn82> I want to setup home directory on a share on windows server for AD users, any link will be helpful
[12:15] <reborn82> currently I can login to ubuntu using my AD credentials, it creates a home directory for  AD user in /home/ADuser@domain/
[12:16] <reborn82> how can i change this to //server/share/ADuser/
[12:19] <ph88> cbreak, i logged in gnome at xorg .. problem with being thrown back to login screen didnt happen
[12:19] <ph88> how can i set ubuntu to always login to gnome xorg ?
[12:20] <cbreak> it should remember your pick
[12:23] <ph88> ok great
[13:27] <emprestimos> ss
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:30] <bittin> hey
[13:39] <amosbird> Hello! Does ubuntu provide some tools to build a glibc deb from source?
[13:40] <orangepi> hello
[13:40] <bittin> hi
[13:40] <orangepi> where are you?
[13:40] <bittin> Sweden
[13:41] <oerheks> amosbird, sure, install build-essentials
[13:41] <oerheks> !info build-essentials
[13:41] <oerheks> grr
[13:41] <oerheks> !build
[13:42] <amosbird> oerheks: Hmm, I mean to build the exact same deb from ubuntu's official repo
[13:42] <amosbird> I wonder if the build pipeline is open sourced
[13:43] <oerheks> i think so..
[13:43] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc
[13:44] <ioria> amosbird, you mean 'glibc-source' ?
[13:44] <oerheks> you'll find the orig.tar.xz and the patched ubuntu-debian.tar.xz
[13:45] <amosbird> ioria: yes
[13:45] <ioria> !info glibc-source
[13:47] <amosbird> Hmm, there are so many tarballs...
[16:08] <sadungabunga> hello
[16:10] <leftyfb> sadungabunga: hello. Do you have an Ubuntu support question we can help you with?
[16:10] <sadungabunga> no i just wanted to say hello :)
[17:31] <BlackArch2> hi
[17:32] <oerheks> :-)
[17:33] <BlackArch2> im tryna build Krita from git source code
[17:33] <BlackArch2> but i think im just going to download the appimage
[17:33] <BlackArch2> i get this error message when i try cmake ..
[17:33] <BlackArch2> Could NOT find KF5 (missing: Config WidgetsAddons Completion CoreAddons
[17:33] <BlackArch2>   GuiAddons I18n ItemModels ItemViews WindowSystem) (Required is at least
[17:33] <BlackArch2>   version "5.44.0")
[17:33] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: what's wrong with the version available in Ubuntu?
[17:34] <BlackArch2> ?
[17:34] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: sudo apt install krita
[17:34] <BlackArch2> oh
[17:34] <BlackArch2> i mean
[17:34] <BlackArch2> i want the latest nightly build tho
[17:35] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: what about version 4.4.5 as part of the snap?
[17:35] <BlackArch2> i hate snap so much
[17:35] <BlackArch2> had problems with it not creating shortcuts
[17:35] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: for issues with compiling their source code, you'll need to seek support from the vendor
[17:36] <BlackArch2> but if someone tried installing from their source code would be useful to share how
[17:37] <BlackArch2> im just gonna make a shortcut for the appimage i think
[17:38] <oerheks> 5 is available https://snapcraft.io/krita
[17:38] <leftyfb> oerheks: this is another one that hates snaps
[17:41] <oerheks> then one should get dependencies right..
[17:41] <BlackArch2> oh right im gonna try > sudo aptitude build-dep Krita
[17:42] <leftyfb> :/
[17:43] <BlackArch2> Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: debhelper-compat (= 13)
[17:43] <BlackArch2> Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: libqt5opengl5-desktop-dev
[17:43] <BlackArch2> thats the output
[17:43] <BlackArch2> and the dependencies listed there are installed
[17:43] <BlackArch2> which is wierd
[17:44] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: ( cat /etc/os-release ; apt-cache policy debhelper-compat ; apt-cache policy krita ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:44] <BlackArch2> i paste this whole command?
[17:45] <oerheks> libqt5opengl5-dev probably
[17:45] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: run the whole command, it should spit out a URL, then post the URL here please
[17:45] <BlackArch2> https://termbin.com/lfhj
[17:46] <BlackArch2> why does it say dhhelper-compat isnt installed
[17:46] <BlackArch2> Installed: (none)
[17:46] <leftyfb> that package name doesn't exist
[17:47] <leftyfb> only debhelper
[17:47] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/impish/debhelper
[17:47] <BlackArch2> udo aptitude install debhelper-compat
[17:47] <BlackArch2> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[17:48] <BlackArch2> ??
[17:48] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: there is no package named debhelper-compat
[17:49] <BlackArch2> debhelper                       - helper programs for debian/rules
[17:49] <BlackArch2> v   debhelper:i386                  -
[17:49] <BlackArch2> v   debhelper-compat                -
[17:49] <BlackArch2> v   debhelper-compat:i386           -
[17:49] <BlackArch2> i A libdebhelper-perl
[17:49] <leftyfb> !paste | BlackArch2
[17:49] <BlackArch2> thats the output of aptitude search debhelper
[17:49] <BlackArch2> so yea it exist
[17:50] <oerheks> No, it seems not.
[17:50] <BlackArch2> thats wierd then
[17:50] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: not sure why you're using aptitude. Please stick with apt. Aptitude is just a wrapper for apt/dpkg that does a bit of it's own thing
[17:51] <BlackArch2> ok
[17:52] <oerheks> you might take some reading first; https://docs.krita.org/en/untranslatable_pages/building_krita.html --- apt-get build-dep krita
[17:58] <BlackArch2> oerheks, thanks a lot
[18:05] <BlackArch2> it needs a cmakelists.txt
[18:05] <BlackArch2> idk how to do that
[18:06] <BlackArch2> oh nbm
[18:06] <BlackArch2> nvm
[18:06] <BlackArch2> its in /kritadev/krita
[18:07] <BlackArch2> CMake Error: The source directory "/home/oxy/kritadev/krita" does not exist.
[18:08] <BlackArch2> oh
[18:08] <BlackArch2> fuck im stupid
[18:08] <BlackArch2> sometimes
[18:08] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: https://launchpad.net/~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:09] <leftyfb> krita testing was last updated to 5.2.0-1 4 days ago
[18:09] <leftyfb> sorry, 5.1.0-1
[18:09] <BlackArch2> nice everything works now
[18:09] <BlackArch2> just had to specify the right directory
[18:09] <BlackArch2> containing cmakelists
[18:09] <BlackArch2> and apt build-dep
[18:09] <BlackArch2> krita
[18:10] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: so you are going to run through this every day to keep it updated?
[18:10] <BlackArch2> nah ill just use that version will be enough i guess
[18:12] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: so you want a "nightly" version that will never get updated but don't want a 4 day old version that will get updated?
[18:13] <BlackArch2> and now i have another problem
[18:13] <BlackArch2> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[18:13] <BlackArch2> cmake  ran fine
[18:14] <BlackArch2> leftyfb, i like building source codes
[18:14] <BlackArch2> its a passion
[18:14] <BlackArch2> so doing apt install krita is too simple for me
[18:14] <BlackArch2> too boring
[18:15] <BlackArch2> im gonna try editing the sources.list file
[18:16] <programmerq> say I install version 4.2.1 of some package. I'd like to prevent automatic upgrades to a 4.3.y or a 5.x.y version, but I'd like to also allow automatic updates to upgrade if a 4.2.2 or any other 4.2.y version comes out. 'apt-mark hold' holds the package as it is and doesn't allow any upgrades. Is there a way to achieve this?
[18:17] <sarnold> programmerq: you're probably solving a problem that doesn't exist https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Versions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Why
[18:19] <programmerq> it's to deal with third party software release cycle not necessarily following best practices, or needing to hold back major.minor updates until a component external to the system is upgraded.
[18:19] <ogra> BlackArch2, can you please leave out the swear words when chatting here (you have been told about it this morning already) ... that cant be that hard given that everyone else manages it (no offense etc ...) 🙂
[18:19] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: what exactly are you editing into your sources.list?
[18:19] <programmerq> I figured apt doesn't have a way to do this since it is kind of dealing with a not-typical situation, but figured I'd ask in case I missed something.
[18:22] <sarnold> programmerq: ahhh, i see. I don't know any way to do what you want with the third-party repos :(
[18:25] <programmerq> I know some packages split up major releases into separate packages to help alleviate this class of concern, but I wasn't sure if I was just missing something built in to apt.
[18:25] <programmerq> anyway, thanks for the answer. :)
[18:29] <BlackArch2> why do i get this output??
[18:29] <BlackArch2>  Compiling Krita inside the source directory is not possible.
[18:29] <BlackArch2> ??
[18:29] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: what exactly are you editing into your sources.list?
[18:29] <sarnold> you probably need an option to specify the output directory
[18:30] <BlackArch2> oh nothing i didnt do shit to the sources.list tho
[18:30] <BlackArch2> sarnold, you mind giving me an example
[18:30] <leftyfb> !language | BlackArch2
[18:30] <ogra> BlackArch2, pretty please stop swearing here ... we have kids in the channel and really dont want their parents to block them because you can't hold yourself back !
[18:31] <sarnold> BlackArch2: the linux kernel folks use O= .. https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kbuild/modules.txt
[18:31] <sarnold> BlackArch2: read the krita docs, they'll probably have something similar
[18:32] <BlackArch2> sarnold, ive read it all
[18:32] <BlackArch2> didnt find anything about this
[18:32] <BlackArch2> im about to just do apt install ...
[18:32] <BlackArch2> i hate going the easy way
[18:33] <BlackArch2> its not enough challenging lmao
[18:34] <sarnold> BlackArch2: ah it looks even easier than that: https://docs.krita.org/en/untranslatable_pages/building_krita.html#configuring-the-build  "You first need to run cmake to generate the build system, in the kritadevs/build directory, then run make to make Krita, then run make install to install krita."
[18:35] <BlackArch2> yes but make fails
[18:36] <BlackArch2> and i was in the build directory
[18:38] <BlackArch2> lmao
[18:38] <BlackArch2> all this just to edit a picture and add pepe's beautiful face
[18:38] <BlackArch2> Xd
[18:38] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: you said this was your passion
[18:39] <jhutchins> Building and re-building software was an integral part of learning Linux before everything was point-and-click.  It's still a very good skill to learn, and can be very useful in professional applications like building drivers for hardware that's beyond consumer levels.
[18:39] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: if all you want to do is make troll memes, then just install it from PPA or snap
[18:39] <oerheks> after Krita, go build the latest chromium
[18:39] <mybalzitch> is there an issue tracker for the canonical / snap zoom-client package? not seeing one on the snap store, it just says "contact developer"
[18:39] <BlackArch2> its just mad fun to build sources codes i do this all day long lmao jhutchins
[18:40] <ogra> mybalzitch, what's your issue (i am the maintainer)
[18:40] <ogra> (but recently very short on time to do any dev work on it)
[18:40] <mybalzitch> oh hi
[18:40] <BlackArch2> sometimes im bored and look up random tools and software on github so i can build them
[18:41] <mybalzitch> ogra: it seems that UTF-8 emojis don't render. I have to copy the text out of the client (just shows up as a white box) then paste it into something like Kate to see what the emoji is
[18:41] <jhutchins> BlackArch2: I had a lot of fun finding drivers for touchscreens before they were standardized.  Adapting a five year old driver to a current distro was ... interesting.
[18:42] <ogra> mybalzitch, hmm, can you open a topic on forum.snapcraft.io ? i dont see that here on a standard 20.04 install
[18:42] <mybalzitch> 🤬🤬🤬
[18:42] <mybalzitch> 🤣😂🤣
[18:42] <mybalzitch> okay
[18:42] <mybalzitch> np
[18:42] <ogra> 😄
[18:43] <mybalzitch> I have no idea what the sending client/platform was
[18:43] <mybalzitch> I will open a topic when I get back from errands
[18:43] <mybalzitch> thanks for your time
[18:43] <ogra> awesome ... feel free to ping me in the text by mentioning "@ogra"
[18:46] <BlackArch2> jhutchins, i want to use void linux
[18:46] <BlackArch2> but all i get is blank white and black squares all over the screen
[18:46] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: go with LFS
[18:47] <BlackArch2> LFS?
[18:47] <BlackArch2> waz that
[18:47] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/
[18:47] <BlackArch2> oh i know what that is
[18:47] <leftyfb> BlackArch2: you get to compile everything
[18:47] <BlackArch2> void is made from scratch
[18:47] <leftyfb> sounds like your dream
[18:47] <BlackArch2> thanks
[19:02] <leftyfb> what triggers a new journald journal to get created?
[19:07] <ogra> the limits set in the config or at build time
[19:07] <ogra> (/etc/systemd/journald.conf)
[19:09] <leftyfb> ogra: besides that. We're seeing this happen on fresh images booting within minutes. We've got other issues we're trying to figure out but also noticing we seem to be rolling over to a new journal for some unknown reason. Figuring out this reason might help point us to why
[19:10] <ogra> leftyfb, well, here are size and time limits ... if your clock moves around on first boot due to NP that might be a reason (depending on the time drift)
[19:10] <leftyfb> ... why we're having the other issues
[19:10] <ogra> s/NP/NTP/
[19:10] <leftyfb> hm
[19:11] <leftyfb> incorrect BIOS clock setting that gets resolved with NPT(chrony in our case) on boot?
[19:11] <leftyfb> think that could cause it?
[19:12] <ogra> yeah
[19:12] <leftyfb> this gives me something to look into, thanks.
[19:12] <ogra> if your clock moves two weeks to the furture and journald is set to switch logs once a week it might
[19:13] <leftyfb> yeah, it's a good thought. In a meeting now but after I'll check into that
[19:17] <hagi> I've mounted my NAS with NFS. As I can only use mount with sudo, i can only access the folder with sudo permissions. Is there a way to use mount with sudo and still access the files with the normal user account? I might be missing something very basic here, but I'm new to NFS
[19:19] <sarnold> hagi: the usual idea is to use ldap or something similar to make sure all users have the same uids and gids on all machines, then you can just use the standard unix permissions
[19:19] <EriC^^> hagi: use the mount options "uid=1000,gid=1000"
[19:20] <EriC^^> or whatever your user id is, ntfs doesnt have linux permissions but you can use 'fake permissions' for the mount
[19:32] <jhutchins> !nfs
[19:55] <Guest59> Fuck off admin
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[19:56] <oerheks> !ot | Guest59
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[19:56] <leftyfb> Guest59: spamming garbage is offtopic here.
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[19:56] <leftyfb> !op | Guest59
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[19:57] <gffranco> thanks leftyfb
[19:58] <leftyfb> gffranco: ?
[19:58] <gffranco> leftyfb: about Guest59
[19:58] <genii> The bot quieted them for spam
[20:10] <cjohnson_> In centos I have to configure gpgpcheck=1 for each repository I add. It's my interpretation that ubuntu defaults to checking the integrity of packages
[20:10] <cjohnson_> My security team is challenging me on this. Does anybody have a link to a doc that expclicitly spells this out?
[20:15] <aurielelcrack> hello :3
[20:18] <sarnold> cjohnson_: apt-secure(8), first paragraph; sources.list(5), search for Allow-Insecure or Trusted
[20:50] <edlou> if devfx joins, dont try to burden him with this install, thanks guys.
[20:51] <leftyfb> edlou: what?
[20:52] <Lumpio-> I keep getting a notification that says "Pending update of \"code\" snap Close the app to avoid disruptions", how do I get rid of it
[20:52] <Lumpio-> "snap refresh code" says "error: cannot refresh \"code\": snap \"code\" has running apps (code)" - how do I see these running apps?
[20:53] <Lumpio-> Somehow this tool knows (or thinks) something is running - how can I find out what it's finding because I'm not finding it in "ps"
[21:01] <sarnold> Lumpio-: ps by default just shows you what's running in that terminal; try ps auxw | grep -i code   or | grep -i vs  or | grep -i visual
[21:02] <Lumpio-> sarnold: Yes, I used all the requisite flags
[21:02] <Lumpio-> fwiw those exact commands find nothing either
[21:03] <sarnold> heh, dang
[21:04] <sarnold> Lumpio-: okay, try something like fuser -m /snap/code/<highest number>
[21:07] <Lumpio-> Well that was random
[21:07] <sarnold> heh, did that do it?
[21:08] <Lumpio-> It gave me a couple of completely random processes that were probably parented to the code process at one point (started with &)
[21:08] <Lumpio-> Via the built-in terminal
[21:08] <Lumpio-> Does it really consider those as the application itself running currently
[21:09] <Lumpio-> I guess I have to wait until there's a new update to verify, but thanks
[21:09] <sarnold> I'm not sure; it might be fallout from umount(/snap/foo/bar) ---> EBUSY
[21:10] <Lumpio-> mm
[21:10] <Lumpio-> Well, that was confusing.
[21:55] <jhutchins> Is there an instance of snapd running?
[23:26] <Nazir_one> Hello All, Hope you are doing will. I am looking for equivalent of *ipsec stroke rekey 'VTI-enp0s8{5}'* command from strongSwan. On LiberaSwan.
[23:29] <Bashing-om> !info LiberaSwan
[23:33] <oerheks> librEswan
[23:33] <oerheks> !info libreswan
[23:34] <Bashing-om> \o/ oerheks :D
[23:34] <oerheks> not sure how to answer this...