[00:00] <WoC`> right, just confirming that the fix worked <Maik>
[09:51] <bittin> testing if the linux-firmware package is fixed atm
[09:52] <bittin> yep it is
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> ravage: seems like your idea was right on screenshots, prt sc does the job now
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> found a new jammy bug, see if you can also see it bug #1965123
[12:04] <ubottu> Bug 1965123 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Active launchers area pixels missing" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1965123
[12:26] <tarzeau> does the ubuntu 22.04 should have a menu that is always visible?
[12:26] <tarzeau> if it'
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> tarzeau: you mean like gnome classic menu on the top panel?
[12:27] <tarzeau> that menu with apps to launch used to be on the left
[12:27] <tarzeau> because i've just visited our users with 22.04 and they didn't have it... and i wasn't able to get it back for them
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> we got a classicmenu-indicator if you like
[12:29] <tarzeau> libayatana-appindicator3-1 : Breaks: libappindicator3-1 (< 22.04)
[12:29] <tarzeau> guess this is the moment to switch away from ubuntu
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> :p
[12:33] <tarzeau> really the new ubuntu gnome will not have a classic menu anymore?
[12:34] <tarzeau> but wait i have a ubuntu installation 22.04 (dist-upgrade from 20.04) that has the menu bar on the left
[12:34] <tarzeau> and i don't have that classicmenu-indicator installed
[12:34] <tarzeau> wait. this must be related to ubuntu session vs gnome session
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> not sure we talking about the same tarzeau but the gnome top panel start menu, thats a gnome classic thing right?
[12:35] <tarzeau> let me make a screenshot
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> not on gnome3?
[12:36] <tarzeau> http://bootes.ethz.ch/this-menu.png
[12:37] <tarzeau> no idea, how can i check? yes it feels and looks like gnome3
[12:37] <tarzeau> but now when it stopped launching inkscape, i still have to wait the session to die, to get back to amiwm or wmaker
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> tarzeau: you mean activities button left upper corner?
[12:40] <tarzeau> no all the icons on the left middle
[12:40] <tarzeau> the applications i can launch with that menu
[12:40] <Maik> that's no menu that the launcher/dock
[12:40] <tarzeau> ok launcher/dock, does it still exist or is it gone?
[12:40] <tarzeau> because i've got two users, they login ubuntu 22.04 and they don't have it
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> yeah dock is still there
[12:41] <Maik> the dock is indeed still there
[12:41] <tarzeau> ok wonder how to launch it from manual if it's missing, and why it's missing then
[12:41] <Maik> and i don't think the Ubuntu guys will ever remove it
[12:41] <tarzeau> i can confirm it doesn't happen on dist-upgrade, but happens on 22.04 direct install (we use ipxe)
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> sended a new private crash bug, software & updates icon crashes when clicking 'additional drivers' section
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> tarzeau: i think i recall bugs on missing dock in specific graphics card before
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> best to let your users file a new jammy bug then
[12:59] <PaulW2U> lotuspsychje: I can't reproduce your crash but I do get "An error occurred while searching for drivers"
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> PaulW2U: no apport window that opens?
[13:00] <PaulW2U> No
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> weird, i can make that happen every time
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> and i also get error on drivers
[13:02] <PaulW2U> I'm seeing a Lot of bugs using two monitors with applications jumping from one screen to the other when I open Settings or Firefox opens a pop-up window
[13:02] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: nvidia binary driver?
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> PaulW2U: i also got something popup right when launching FF on the right, but its too fast to see what it is
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> tarzeau: mine? or the dock bug?
[13:05] <tarzeau> since we switched to hidpi displays, i also have users complaining about x y software font too small, they are advised to workaround per applications themselves atm
[13:06] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: the dock bug you told about - we have nvidia binary drivers
[13:06] <tarzeau> (due to cuda needs)
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> ah kk
[13:06] <tarzeau> the once directly from nvidia repos
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> not sure anymore tarzeau sorry
[13:06] <tarzeau> ok np, will investigate, when local (once/week)
[13:17] <PaulW2U> lotuspsychje: looking at /var/crash I see that a crash file relating to software-properties was automatically uploaded a few minutes ago