[12:12] <Kruno> Hi, all! I just started to use lubuntu and had some real trouble with setting up Trojitá with Gmail, and Just to see that it might not work after 2022-05-30 as „less secure” third-party apps will not be able to connect.
[13:09] <loo> hi I am on a live dvd of 21.04 lubuntu. so far I am aware of the likely calamares limitation/bug  that is preventing me to complete upgrade/update my older lubuntu with parameters/data untouched. I precise I am no dev eventhough I know tools and play a bit with code. My questions now are : Knowing I can access my older lubuntu (it crashes when
[13:09] <loo> booting it from grub since the online upgrade from 18.xx or 20.xx to newer) externally; knowing the GRUB is fine too (heavy multiboot with several chainloading working just smoothly, except for the main linux/lubuntum returning the crash with mention kernel panic); Knowing I am using lubuntu for specific reasons (self educational purpose; global
[13:09] <loo> machine maintenance; I like it etc.). 1- Is Lubuntu 20.04.4 LTS iso packed with a newer version or the last version of calamares? If not which other lubuntu iso is (any channel is fine to me)?
[13:13] <tomreyn> loo: installer / live iso's use the versions that were current for the target release when they were made.
[13:14] <tomreyn> loo: i.e. the lubuntu 20.04.4 lts iso will be using the calamares package version of lubuntu 20.04 by the time (so including bug fixes) 20.04.4 released.
[13:15] <tomreyn> loo: and the end-of-life 21.04 dvd you have will be using the (possibly higher, but without bug/security fixes) versions that 21.04 came with
[13:16] <tomreyn> loo: consider running lubuntu or your other OSes in a VM rather than multi-booting - that enables you to switch between them without having to save your work / close your applications on / reboot your main OS
[13:16] <tomreyn> (not a good option on low resource hardware)
[13:18] <tomreyn> the highest package version of calamares will be with the newest lubuntu release iso (but older ones, i.e. 20.04.4 *may* have more bug/security fixes)
[13:20] <loo> ok thank you for the information. Now I was provided with workarounds and potential solutions (3 actually) to get the upgrade done with my data/setting saved. May I expose those to you guys here? So you just advise me which one(s) is/are the more accurate. I am planning now the vm solution but I need to first get my setup up and running for various
[13:20] <loo> reasons I will not expose here.
[13:32] <loo> 1- moving all important files to an external ext4 drive then erase ecerything except /home and run the installer again; 2- run a fedora iso instead 3- update calamares on the fly from the live session I am in (realistic?) then update?; Fix my ollder lubuntu another way (why not if possible)?
[13:38] <loo> My sources for those are : Lubuntu Tg channel (from one of the contributors of lubuntu); A linux ingeneer friend (unfortunately unreachable right now that is why i am here)
[13:41] <kc2bez> loo: I am not sure what bug in Calamares you are referring to. It should be noted this IRC channel is bridged to telegram so I am also not seeing the conversation you are referencing. 
[13:42] <kc2bez> You should definitely backup your data before you begin anything. 
[13:43] <kc2bez> It isn't possible to update Calamares in the live image because the version that is included would be the latest version available for that release. 
[13:44] <loo> I was told there it was the problem and I cross checked in many dev forums it seems to be that indeed.
[13:45] <kc2bez> What problem exactly? 
[13:45] <loo> is it possible to add a screen cap here?
[13:46] <kc2bez> !paste
[13:47] <loo> it was the french lubuntu community on tg actually (communaute francophone lubuntu or something) sorry for not mentioning it
[13:49] <kc2bez> There are only two supported releases of Lubuntu right now. 20.04 and 21.10  if you need a newer version of Calamares you need 21.10 Also keep in mind 22.04 is due to be released at the end of April. 
[13:51] <loo> ok let me send you the screen cap i got so far wait please.
[14:01] <loo> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/6a57ad991900db1de45a44b27f81ae11/IMG_1615.jpg
[14:04] <kc2bez> You should not get that error, that looks like corruption in the iso. You should download a supported release, verify your download, and use an appropriate method to burn the image to your USB. 
[14:06] <kc2bez> For further reference you can visit our manual. https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/1/Installing_lubuntu.html
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[14:15] <loo> I got the iso from lubuntu i used last version of rufus several usb (brand new ones too) several blank dvds and several iso from 20.04.4 till 21.10. was mentioned in https://t.me/Lubuntu_Fr
[14:16] <loo> yes indeed this one from this contributor
[14:23] <loo> Ubuntu should be the way to go then ?
[14:30] <loo> ok my mistake i am on the right walkthrough now.
[14:41] <loo> will run the test as well then for those : here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1923128 and here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/419/builds/229234/testcases/1701/results then
[16:33] <luthien> hi someone can help me? i installaed tha app betaflight configurator but when i click on the app nothing happen... any suggestion? thank you
[20:17] <lubuntu> just another lubuntu haxor
[20:23] <Chunkyz> oh really?