[01:57] <daftykins> well, time to head into Monday with our heads held high!
[01:57] <daftykins> g'night gang \o
[15:56] <davef> Happy return to the work week day!
[15:56] <zxmpi> ... and there was no rejoicing
[15:57] <davef> My morning kicked off with stuck Linux processes.. yey
[15:57] <davef> strace gives me a headache
[16:10] <daftykins> o0
[16:10] <daftykins> i'm barely getting started here, relaxed with coffee and a bit of TV down in my lounge beforehand :D
[16:11] <davef> It's just the joys of being a Linux admin.
[16:13] <daftykins> thankfully none of mine are serious enough that i have had to go that deep, i'd just turn it off and back on ;) (restart the service) 
[16:14] <daftykins> the other day though i logged into staff RStudio accounts and discovered that they keep open every job they've ever worked on, within their session - the way R works is it loads the datasets into RAM of every open file
[16:14] <daftykins> so this poor VM was maxxed out despite having nigh-on 80 GB of RAM allocated solely 'cause they don't close things D:
[16:17] <davef> I had to dive into file locks, poking around /proc/<pid>/fd, strace, lsof.. 
[16:18] <davef> we have an app, if a process has one of the DB tables open for writing, we can't kill it as it could corrupt the DB and files. (DB is old style BTree)
[16:18] <zxmpi> should have recommended an 80gb ramdisk :-P
[16:18] <davef> 80GB, peanuts.
[16:19] <davef> # free -g
[16:19] <davef>               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
[16:19] <davef> Mem:            754          53           5           0         695         697
[16:19] <davef> Swap:             0           0           0
[16:19] <daftykins> well yeah but it's an 11 year old Dell R820 with 128 GB as the XCP-ng host, i got it for peanuts locally :)
[16:21] <daftykins> built that thing up as more of a proof of concept done on the cheap
[16:46] <davef> omg, I had my music on random.. and YT music starts playing "The Bad Touch" by Bloodhound Gang lol
[16:46] <daftykins> :D
[16:47] <davef> I've not heard this song in years
[16:47] <daftykins> fun album, i'm gonna pop it on
[16:51] <daftykins> erk an old MP3 copy
[16:54] <zxmpi> aac is the future :-P
[16:56] <daftykins> if you're poor and can't afford storage perhaps
[16:58] <zxmpi> do sony still make memory stick
[16:59] <daftykins> dunno!
[16:59] <daftykins> they always were cheeky for their proprietary formats of all things, mmm
[16:59] <zxmpi> seems to have petered out about 2012 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_Stick
[16:59] <zxmpi> i kinda wish minidisc stuck around as a super floppy
[17:00] <zxmpi> 60mb a pop or 1 ms word documents :-P
[17:01] <daftykins> ah i loved mine back in the day
[17:02] <zxmpi> sony build quality so really solid hardware wise
[17:02] <zxmpi> but really let down by sony software wise
[17:02] <daftykins> ah i had a Sharp mt877 for my second one
[17:02] <daftykins> i think the first one didn't do LP modes perhaps, maybe that's what suckered me into a second
[17:05] <zxmpi> i just slummed it back then with an argos special of a cd player that played mp3s off cd-r. 10 albums per disc
[17:07] <daftykins> a similar early start to MP3 like LGR!
[17:07] <daftykins> i'm tempted Murphy's law with a remote router + switch firmware update right now
[17:08] <daftykins> removing the travel from the job definitely makes life easier ;)
[17:08] <zxmpi> at least it isn't a friday :-)
[17:08] <daftykins> haha yeah
[17:08] <daftykins> i very nearly did drop in and do it on Friday, but i gave myself the day off instead
[17:08] <zxmpi> smart. no job started on a friday ends well
[18:12] <daftykins> woohoo all smooth, spotted a staffer VPN in halfway through, hah - what are you doing working after 5!?
[18:13] <daftykins> amusingly i discovered the 'kick user' widget is broken
[18:13] <zxmpi> wipes users system still operational >:-)
[18:16] <daftykins> \o/
[18:16] <daftykins> troublemaker that one, had to roll back their office PC from Windows 11
[18:17] <zxmpi> maybe they needed adverts in their file manager :-P
[18:18] <daftykins> could be
[18:18] <daftykins> i tire of the alleged 'Windows news' of late, 'cause it's all commentary on preview editions that may not even make it
[18:18] <daftykins> until things are truthfully 'shipping' i don't really need it on my radar
[18:20] <zxmpi> the previews are flying kites and seeing what gets a reaction and adverts in a frikking file manager deserves to be mocked far AND wide :-)
[18:21] <daftykins> yeah, useful warning kind of... if things do get that bad, 2025 when win 10 goes EOL may be time to hang up my hat
[18:21] <zxmpi> or dust of the windows 3.1 floppies you find on ebay :-P
[18:22] <zxmpi> gem on top of freedos is where it's at 
[18:22] <daftykins> clients are bad enough trying to hold onto EOL stuff, can't go enabling them further!
[18:24] <zxmpi> i think windows 3.x on internet is safe as no one has been able to write a virus that doesn't require install instructions :-P
[18:38] <zxmpi> icloud, music and tv down for apple users... should have kept those minidiscs a little longer
[18:39] <daftykins> i saw some pieces in the news about their new 'Studio' machine (the one that looks like several mac minis stacked high) which has a removable SSD, but it's software locked
[18:39] <zxmpi> they seem intent on going the sony route. really nice hardware that only they can touch
[18:40] <zxmpi> kinda how they killed themselves in the 90s
[18:41] <daftykins> i still don't see it as nice, their software standards have a really sharp downward trajectory too - even for those who like macOS
[18:41] <zxmpi> they do seem keen to remove features from software that people love
[18:44] <zxmpi> seem to be on a push to get one os ios running on desktop and mobile
[19:52] <daftykins> davef: do you know if your co. uses anything for managing staff BYOD smartphones?
[20:12] <davef> whatever the MS solution is
[20:13] <daftykins> ah :( that's a shame, yeah InTune then