[01:10] <Nick78> hi
[01:11] <Nick78> I am looking for the source code and a copy of kubuntu and ubuntu
[01:58] <Nick78> anyone else here?
[02:00] <rioting_pacifist> https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-get-source-code-of-package-using-the-apt-command-on-debian-or-ubuntu/
[02:01] <Nick78> is there a way to just print it?
[02:01] <Nick78> I am on a windows 10 computer now
[02:07] <oerheks> copy of kubuntu and ubuntu https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[02:09] <Nick78> that's not readable source code
[02:10] <Nick78> it goes to a cd image instead of readable source code
[02:10] <rioting_pacifist> It contains the data, what do you mean by not readable?
[02:11] <rioting_pacifist> it is not a book, it wouldn't make sense to print out 20GB+ of text as a book
[02:11] <Nick78> yes it does
[02:11] <Nick78> I would order that book now
[02:12] <rioting_pacifist> Ok, well you can't, if you want to download the ISO and print out the files, you are free to do that
[02:12] <Nick78> I will look at it
[02:13] <Nick78> idk what specific files are the readable source code
[02:13] <Nick78> thanks for looking
[03:31] <winlundn> When I try to change the desktop icon image it complains that I don't have sufficient privileges. Do I have to chown me:me the entire /usr/share/applications where the handler for the desktop icon is?
[03:33] <winlundn> yep that worked. Answered my own question..!
[05:49] <alkisg> winlundn: eeew no you shouldn't be doing that. And in any case, any changes in /usr are overwritten by application updates
[05:52] <winlundn> alkisg: that's what I thought too! What fixes this issue? Sym links?
[05:53] <alkisg> winlundn: can you upload a screenshot of what you're trying to change?
[05:58] <winlundn> Here's where I'm just trying to change the icon just because..
[05:58] <winlundn> https://nickwinlund.net/~nick/Imgs/Screenshot_20220321_225524.png
[05:59] <winlundn> Ooops forgot to use paste ubuntu
[06:02] <alkisg> winlundn: drag 'n' drop an icon into the desktop; when prompted, select "copy here", not "create a shortcut here"
[06:02] <alkisg> Shortcuts point to /usr, which you can't change; copies are in your /home/username/desktop, which you can change
[06:02] <winlundn> kk
[06:08] <alkisg> To avoid the exclamation mark, right click properties and check "is executable"
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:18] <helen> whoami
[15:18] <helen> help
[15:18] <helen> man
[15:41] <Maik> helen: the nVidia driver does not work with wayland on 20.04
[15:44] <oerheks> better: you won't see a wayland session @ login
[15:46] <helen> ok. what version since it works?
[15:48] <oerheks> No version, linux-wide
[15:58] <Konstantin> ok. NV driver does'nt with WL on 20.04. so, what it does work on?
[15:58] <Konstantin> does'nt work*
[15:59] <oerheks> only Xorg session
[15:59] <oerheks>  * for now
[16:05] <Konstantin> hmm, strange. i surely remember, that i have seen Plasma on WL with NV driver workable on some machine. now trying to setting up my home PC... ok, will try to dig myself. thx!
[16:06] <oerheks> No, not possible. for sure.
[16:06] <Maik> maybe with nouveau but not the nVidia driver itself
[16:07] <oerheks> THat is possible, without having nvidia drivers installed
[16:07] <oerheks> once installed, no wayland-session @ login
[16:07] <Konstantin> nouveau only? it's technically restricted for now?
[16:08] <Maik> also the 5.18 KDE Plasma version doesn't work well with wayland. The newer 5.24.X KDE Plasma version seems to be working well on wayland.
[16:08] <Maik> Konstantin: as said multiple times before nVidia does not work with wayland as of yet
[16:10] <Maik> if you want to use nVidia then stick with X11/Xorg
[16:11] <Maik> especially on older releases
[16:14] <Maik> Konstantinopol: please stop switching nicknames, it's annoying
[16:15] <Maik> especially when providing support
[16:34] <Konstantinopol> my bad! newbie IRC & Linux user. new galactics :)
 Anybody lose USB mouse when coming back from sleep?
 depends, laptop (add pad libs) or desktop ? (re @oktaya: Anybody lose USB mouse when coming back from sleep?)
 Question: Will Kubuntu 22.04 will ship:
 - Wayland by Default
 - Pipewire by Default
 ?
 No and no (re @zparihar: Question: Will Kubuntu 22.04 will ship:
 - Wayland by Default
 - Pipewire by Default
 ?)
 Thanks Rik! (re @RikMills: No and no)
 Both options are too dicey or new to really support in an LTS release. We have to take the safe path for this one
 22.10 may be different....
 Yes, that's what I was thinking (hoping too).
 I guess Kubuntu 24.04 will be the Ultimate release!
 Though... I don't have anything to complain about with 20.04
 Well.. maybe more marketing!
 it's a laptop. thinkpad t480s. pad libs? (re @Technopat_Official: depends, laptop (add pad libs) or desktop ?)
 xx.10 often serves to test the new stuff included in the next LTS release. If you want bleeding edge, goto Fedora but it's not as user-friendly as Kubuntu
 I see so many reveiws of other desktop environments, and very few for Kubuntu, though I feel that Kubuntu is really complete by default compared to all other desktops. (re @zparihar: Well.. maybe more marketing!)
 Yes, there are libraries to install on laptops but I  can't remember it's names. I tell you if I find (re @oktaya: it's a laptop. thinkpad t480s. pad libs?)
 We are not the new shiny thing, we are quite conservative and dependable, and we are 'ubuntu'. (re @zparihar: I see so many reveiws of other desktop environments, and very few for Kubuntu, though I feel that Kubuntu is really complete by default compared to all other desktops.)
 Those do not make headlines...
 look at TLP in Discover (re @oktaya: it's a laptop. thinkpad t480s. pad libs?)
 I think that's what needs to be highlighted. 20 years ago, I was into shiny things in Linux.  Then about 10 years ago, I was handed over management of operations for a datacenter, and realized... that the shiny new things were a liability to me keeping my job, lol!  I was grateful for Shuttleworth implementing LTS and switched over.
 I think "The Stable" desktop would be great marketing to so many. (re @RikMills: Those do not make headlines...)
 I'm not a marketer obviously... along that line
 Kubuntu Focus (the laptop) is marketing Kubuntu quite successfully. https://kfocus.org
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 ok thanks (re @Technopat_Official: look at TLP in Discover)
[23:56] <zachary> hi