[06:06] <tarzeau> if apt says: nvidia-modprobe (>= 510.47.03) but 450.51.05-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[06:07] <tarzeau> because i have ubuntu AND nvidia cuda repos... how can i tell it to ignore 450* 
[06:07] <tarzeau> pinning? 
[06:08] <tarzeau> ahhhh local pinning of someone else, removing it fixes it :)
[06:09] <Bashing-om> tarzeau: Wayland ? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-22.04-NV-Wayland-Default .
[06:23] <alkisg> Odd_Bloke: the force-firefox-snap update just landed; I killed it, added the mozillateam ppa with a priority of 1001, and everything is fine once more.
[06:23] <alkisg> The benefit of mozillateam ppa vs ubuntuzilla is that it's the stock ubuntu package that Canonical will keep maintaining anyway, as long as 20.04 is supported. So e.g. it also contains the language packages, while ubuntuzilla doesn't.
[07:16] <tarzeau> alkisg: can you copy paste or link your ppa sources.list and the pinning file?
[07:17] <tarzeau> the ppa will be not good for 22.04?
[07:17] <tarzeau> i still didn't decide if i go appimage, mozilla binary linux (only x86_64 not arm64?), or flatpak
[07:18] <tarzeau> personally i'd love to move to debian back (as they have working popcon.debian.org, unlike ubuntu)
[07:18] <alkisg> tarzeau: I'll write an ltsp.org page about it and send the link in a bit. The ppa is currently fine for 22.04, I'll keep using that as long as it works as it's the same process and binary that canonical provided for all these years
[07:18] <tarzeau> alkisg: thanks!
[07:19] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: i've sent requestsyncs for photoqt and uftrace, let's see what happens: https://bugs.launchpad.net/%7Egagarin/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
[07:21] <alkisg> tarzeau: actually here's the digest: sudo -i; add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/ppa; printf "Package: *\nPin: release o=LP-PPA-mozillateam\nPin-Priority: 1001\n" >/etc/apt/preferences.d/local
[07:21] <alkisg> After that you can normally update etc without getting the snap firefox
[07:22] <tarzeau> add-apt-repository is long gone, you still have/use it?
[07:22] <alkisg> Hmm where did you hear that?!
[07:22] <tarzeau> we're just actively removing snap, so far nobody of 7 machines with 22.04 missed it :)
[07:22] <tarzeau> so maybe we can go all without firefox :)
[07:23] <tarzeau> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=add-apt-repository&searchon=names&suite=jammy&section=all
[07:23] <tarzeau> oh wait it's there: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=add-apt-repository&mode=exactfilename&suite=impish&arch=any
[07:23] <alkisg> tarzeau: packages.ubuntu.com/software-properties-common
[07:23] <alkisg> It's even having newer releases, I don't see any signs of deprecation
[07:23] <alkisg> It's not preinstalled in ubuntu-gnome?
[07:23] <tarzeau> ack, we're removing that as well
[07:24] <alkisg> Eh, that's about normal .debs, why remove that one...
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> tarzeau: just seeing this bug #1960621
[12:46] <ubottu> Bug 1960621 in marco (Ubuntu Impish) "MATE Desktop session fails to start with NVIDIA 495 & 510 drivers" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1960621
[14:30] <Odd_Bloke> Chunkyz: I don't want to run snapd on my systems, and FF is transitioning to snap-only for 22.04.
[14:55] <Chunkyz> Odd_Bloke: oh, not good. do you know if ESR is doing the same?
[14:57] <oerheks> run flatpak on your system as alternative?
[14:57] <oerheks> you need to update those yourself..
[16:25] <Odd_Bloke> There are PPAs and Mozilla also provide a deb, so I'll likely lean that way over Flatpak.
[16:26] <Odd_Bloke> Chunkyz: I don't know, no.
[16:35] <oerheks> and *if* you don't want snaps, take a look what snaps are already on your system, when using gnome
[16:35] <oerheks> really, i must laugh about snap arguments
[16:45] <Odd_Bloke> I only run Ubuntu derivatives which don't requires snaps, snapd is not installed on any of my systems. :)
[16:45] <oerheks> lolz
[16:50] <Odd_Bloke> Once I was no longer obliged to use them for work, I ditched them as fast as I could, lol
[19:09] <Chunkyz> what's the quickest way to remove a swap partition and use/get the space back?
[19:10] <rdr> is there a known issue with installing the latest daily builds where it hangs on installing Firefox?
[19:10] <Chunkyz> rdr: I installed about an hour ago and firefox is fine...
[19:11] <rdr> hmmm maybe it's my vpn
[19:11] <Chunkyz> Client: HexChat 2.16.0 • OS: Ubuntu "jammy" 22.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6500T CPU @ 2.50GHz (2.50GHz) • Memory: Physical: 14.6 GiB Total (13.8 GiB Free) Swap: 3.9 GiB Total (3.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 103.8 GB / 2.2 TB (2.1 TB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 @ Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 3m 57s
[19:11] <rdr> Chunkyz: what iso did you us
[19:11] <rdr> e?
[19:12] <Chunkyz> just need to get rid of swap and update plex then backup and I'm good :-) and the daily server rdr 
[19:24] <rdr> huh even with VPN disabled it still can't reach the snap server
[19:25] <rdr> stuck on "Unpacking Firefox"
[19:28] <rdr> looks like it's reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1965805
[19:28] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1965805 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Jammy) "Ubiquity failure - Error while installing packages Ubuntu Jammy" [Critical, Confirmed]
[19:31] <Chunkyz> seems Firefox-ESR is still the .deb version whilst normal Firefox is the snap package...
[19:34] <Chunkyz> how can I use virtualbox?
[19:34] <rdr> i don't use virtualbox, i use GNOME-boxes which is a front-end for QEMU
[19:35] <Chunkyz> it fails with libvpx6 and libqt5opengl5
[19:37] <Chunkyz> ahh, just apt install it :-)
[19:40] <Chunkyz> installed with: sudo apt update sudo apt install virtualbox and rebooted, tried to open 'virtualbox' and: bash: virtualbox: command not found
[19:42] <rdr> i don't use virtualbox but try typing virtual<TAB> and see what comes up
[19:42] <rdr> it might be named differently
[19:43] <rdr> but QEMU is better for my purposes
[19:43] <Chunkyz> nope nothing comes uup
[19:43] <Chunkyz> I just want to install winblows for something
[19:44] <Chunkyz> E: Package 'virtualbox-6.1' has no installation candidate even though it's listed as: virtualbox-6.1
[19:45] <rdr> might be broken
[19:45] <Chunkyz> virtualbox-6.1/now 6.1.32-149290~Ubuntu~eoan amd64 [residual-config]
[19:45] <Chunkyz>   (none)
[19:46] <sprnk[m]> what about virt-manager and libvirt?
[19:47] <Chunkyz> wdym?
[19:47] <Chunkyz> E: Unable to locate package libvirt
[19:49] <rdr> try installing virt-manager
[19:50] <sprnk[m]> just do virt-manager,  it pulls in libvirt
[19:50] <rdr> it's a front end for the same stuff that gnome-boxes is, but has more options
[19:56] <sprnk[m]> iirc gnome-boxes even makes a folder .local/share/libvirt. I wanna dig into how boxes works, but I haven't had the strength lol
[19:57] <rdr> hope you feel better sprnk[m] 
[19:57] <rdr> i'm gonna go for the 22.04 install ON PRODUCTION
[19:57] <rdr> lololol no treally it's not a work computer
[19:57] <rdr> but i'll test stuff
[20:01] <sprnk[m]> @rdr thanks :) I hope you find all the bugs for us 
[21:37] <Chunkyz> gave up :-) installed 20.04.4 instead. going to try now.
[21:37] <Chunkyz> Client: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: Ubuntu "focal" 20.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6500T CPU @ 2.50GHz (800MHz) • Memory: 15.0 GiB Total (14.2 GiB Free) • Storage: 97.9 GB / 2.2 TB (2.1 TB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 @ Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 1m 30s
[22:00] <alkisg> Chunkyz: `apt install virtualbox` in 22.04 should give you version 6.1.32-dfsg-1 and it should work with the `virtualbox` command; I've been using it daily since December.
[22:11] <Chunkyz> alkisg: well, not sure what to say; tried the daily build earlier, installed it, and no dice. the virt-manager said nothing was running so it couldn't do anything. it's broken...
[22:12] <Chunkyz> running command 'virtualbox' didn't reconise the command, not found. lol