[06:24] <jpnurmi> good morning
[07:00] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:14] <seb128> goood morning desktopers!
[07:26] <oSoMoN> salut seb128 
[07:26] <oSoMoN> ça va?
[07:30] <seb128> oSoMoN, lut, ouais, et toi ?
[07:31] <alocer[m]> Morning.
[07:35] <oSoMoN> seb128, ça va, la fatigue accumulée de la semaine commence à se faire sentir, mais la journée s’annonce productive :)
[07:35] <oSoMoN> good morning alocer[m] 
[07:35] <seb128> oSoMoN, et pareil ici :)
[07:44] <duflu> Morning jpnurmi, oSoMoN, alocer[m], seb128 
[07:44] <jpnurmi> hey oSoMoN seb128 alocer[m]
[07:44] <jpnurmi> hey duflu
[08:14] <seb128> jamesh, hey, any chance you could check bug #1966386 when you have some free slots maybe?
[08:14] <ubottu> Bug 1966386 in xdg-desktop-portal (Ubuntu) "/usr/libexec/xdg-desktop-portal:11:map_pid_if_needed:map_pid_if_needed:handle_make_thread_realtime_with_pid:ffi_call_unix64:ffi_call_int" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1966386
[08:14] <seb128> we started getting frequent reports about it, feels like we should at least understand what's going on
[08:15] <seb128> the ones I browsed seem to involve epiphany so maybe something the client is doing wrong but still the portal shouldn't crash right?
[08:17] <seb128> ah, google found https://githubmemory.com/index.php/@mcatanzaro?page=1
[08:17] <seb128> I didn't know about that website, confusing
[08:19] <seb128> k, it's https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/issues/709
[08:19] <ubottu> Issue 709 in flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal "Realtime portal crash when mapping pids" [Open]
[08:25] <seb128> jamesh, unping :p
[08:29] <jamesh> seb128: sorry, was getting some tea.
[08:30] <seb128> jamesh, no worry, it's even better so you didn't waste time starting poking at it for nothing :)
[08:31] <jamesh> seb128: fwiw, the snapd / firefox transition package bug seems to be resolved in the latest daily iso
[08:31] <seb128> jamesh, great!
[08:35] <seb128> jamesh, on other topic, any idea if we could somehow nudge the right people to get some more reviews or traction on https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/705 ? we will probably want to distro patch that soon, would be nice to get more reviews or feedback before we do though?
[08:35] <ubottu> Pull 705 in flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal "webextensions: add a portal for managing WebExtensions native messaging servers" [Open]
[08:38] <KGB-0> nautilus ubuntu/master 0a42382 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 20 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/uSdx
[08:38] <KGB-0> nautilus ubuntu/master 55ec8c8 Christian Kirbach po/de.po * Update German translation * https://deb.li/ipsgE
[08:38] <jamesh> seb128: I'll see if I can get a response on the flatpak IRC channel. There isn't any mailing list or similar.
[08:38] <KGB-0> nautilus ubuntu/master 15f40d5 Aurimas Černius po/lt.po * Updated Lithuanian translation * https://deb.li/WSen
[08:38] <KGB-0> nautilus ubuntu/master 956ee3d Kjartan Maraas po/nb.po * Update Norwegian Bokmål translation * https://deb.li/3ZsQ7
[08:38] <KGB-0> nautilus ubuntu/master b29f96c Марко Костић po/sr.po * Update Serbian translation * https://deb.li/AYuU
[08:38] <KGB-0> nautilus ubuntu/master a03404d Baurzhan Muftakhidinov po/kk.po * Update Kazakh translation * https://deb.li/3uiSF
[08:39] <seb128> jamesh, thanks
[08:50] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey Gunnar, how are you? sorry for the confusing on those UIFe bugs!
[08:51] <GunnarHj> I'm fine, thanks. Hope you are too.
[08:54] <GunnarHj> seb128: Yeah, it has always been a bit confusing about the roles in connection with UIFe. But while docs team and translators should be notified, we are not decision makers. We can indeed yell if we disagree, but the release team is the sole decision maker.
[08:56] <seb128> GunnarHj, I was under the impression that often the release team was waiting for input for translators/documentation
[08:57] <seb128> like if there is no comment they don't know if that means +1 or that no one read the emails
[08:57] <seb128> input from
[08:57] <GunnarHj> seb128: Me too. But that's not what the docs say.
[08:58] <seb128> GunnarHj, right, I went to read it after that you posted on the bug and it doesn't, anyway sorry for the confusion
[08:58] <seb128> I went to ping the release team via email now, I think that it's just that they don't keep up with requests nowadays
[08:58] <GunnarHj> N.p. of course.
[08:58] <duflu> seb128, was a UIFe granted for bug 1966105?
[08:58] <ubottu> Bug 1966105 in ubuntu-wallpapers (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Upload wallpaper competition finalists for Jammy" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1966105
[08:59] <duflu> I guess depending on how deep you click, at some stage things don't require exceptions. Although someone might want to screenshot the Settings dialog with the final images
[08:59] <GunnarHj> seb128: Shouldn't the desktop team have a new member in the release team now when l_aney isn't here so often?
[09:00] <seb128> duflu, no, that's one of the bugs I mentioned in my email the release team
[09:01] <seb128> GunnarHj, it would be nice, we asked to get someone added but it's taking them time for $reason to decide how to onboard new members
[09:01] <duflu> Not granted or not yet granted?
[09:01] <duflu> (I don't have that email that I can see)
[09:01] <seb128> duflu, no yet, they will comment on the launchpad bug with a +1 or -1 when they review it
[09:02] <seb128> duflu, email is https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2022-March/005351.html
[09:04] <duflu> Oh the final images were a bit bigger than what I downloaded in 4K from discourse. More quality is good though
[09:12] <GunnarHj> seb128: Do you know if bug #1966142 is being worked on?
[09:12] <ubottu> Bug 1966142 in snap-store-desktop "Ubuntu Software does not include .deb packages" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1966142
[09:23] <seb128> GunnarHj, check with kenvandine later when he's online, we get such report every now and then, could be something on a weird state on your system rather than it being broken for everyone
[09:26] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, I can check with kenvandine later. But when noticing on my complete jammy install (which I don't trust 100%) I went to an almost clean VM install and saw the issue there too. Does it work as expected for you?
[09:36] <seb128> GunnarHj, it does, I've rev 575 installed from edge, I don't even know if that's the default one atm, I will try on a new installer late
[09:36] <seb128> later
[09:36] <GunnarHj> ok
[10:38] <amurray> hey desktoppers - is it a known issue already that the new ubuntu logo is at slightly different heights between the plymouth theme and the gdm/gnome-shell login screen? (I can never remember which of those 2 is responsible for the login screen anymore)
[10:42] <seb128> amurray, hey, not known afaik
[10:42] <seb128> duflu, ^ did you notice or those a report about that?
[10:44] <duflu> amurray, seb128, yes it has been true ever since we introduced the login screen logo. On some/most systems they are rendered in different locations. There is a bug somewhere, but it seems nontrivial matching the layout logic of gnome-shell with that of plymouth
[10:45] <duflu> Bug 1872594
[10:45] <ubottu> Bug 1872594 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu logo shifts vertically when the login screen appears" [Low, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1872594
[10:49] <duflu> I think Fedora avoided the bug by making the plymouth logo vanish and then fade in again in the new location
[10:50]  * duflu -> weekend
[10:53] <GunnarHj> seb128: I added some info to that snap-store bug:
[10:53] <GunnarHj> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store-desktop/+bug/1966142/comments/1
[10:53] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1966142 in snap-store-desktop "Ubuntu Software does not include .deb packages" [Undecided, New]
[11:02] <seb128> GunnarHj, ack
[11:55] <jbicha> happy Friday
[12:05] <oSoMoN> hey jbicha, happy Friday!
[12:19] <seb128> jbicha, hey, happy friday!
[12:20] <KGB-0> gnome-settings-daemon tags 9ac0965 Sebastien Bacher upstream/42.1 * Upstream version 42.1 * https://deb.li/32hwN
[12:20] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon upstream/latest c0b9c5a Sebastien Bacher * pushed 9 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/qkoV
[12:20] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon upstream/latest 19c0c98 Asier Sarasua Garmendia po/eu.po * Update Basque translation * https://deb.li/38dEg
[12:20] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon upstream/latest 43fcbc3 Asier Sarasua Garmendia po/eu.po * Update Basque translation * https://deb.li/Hd8G
[12:20] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon upstream/latest f5de26b Marek Černocký po/cs.po * Updated Czech translation * https://deb.li/3STtM
[12:20] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon upstream/latest 911e529 Milo Casagrande po/it.po * Update Italian translation * https://deb.li/NG6y
[12:21] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon upstream/latest c8981ef Carlos Garnacho plugins/keyboard/gsd-keyboard-manager.c * keyboard: "Migrate" gtk-im-context setting before giving control to user * https://deb.li/i3kI4
[12:21] <KGB-2> gnome-settings-daemon pristine-tar 63d1e31 Sebastien Bacher gnome-settings-daemon_42.1.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-settings-daemon_42.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-settings-daemon_42.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/292e
[12:40] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hi, does the firefox snap has access to XDG_RUNTIME_DIR? e.g. /run/user/1000
[12:44] <oSoMoN> ricotz, in the context of the snap, XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000/snap.firefox
[12:45] <ricotz> so it can't read /run/user/1000 ?
[12:45] <ricotz> putting the temp file written by libreoffice in "user visible" folder is bad
[12:46] <ricotz> $HOME would be a last resort, having random temp folders popping up in e.g. nautilus is not nice
[12:47] <ricotz> so the "real" XDG_RUNTIME_DIR (in an unconfined context) is an option
[12:48] <ricotz> note the current libreoffice build in -proposed isn't patched yet, I ran into some issues and didn't want to stress the dead line for beta
[13:21] <oSoMoN> ricotz, that's fair
[13:21] <oSoMoN> and indeed, the snap won't have access to /run/user/1000
[13:34] <GunnarHj> kenvandine: Good morning! Did you notice bug #1966142?
[13:34] <ubottu> Bug 1966142 in snap-store-desktop "Ubuntu Software does not include .deb packages" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1966142
[13:34] <kenvandine> GunnarHj: just looking at that
[13:34] <GunnarHj> Ah, great!
[13:35] <kenvandine> The same revision worked in a fresh jammy VM 3 weeks ago and today it doesn't
[13:35] <GunnarHj> :(
[13:35]  * kenvandine scratches head
[13:37] <GunnarHj> kenvandine: And the same revision works in impish...
[13:56] <KGB-0> nautilus ubuntu/master e2f1055 Jeremy Bicha debian/patches/ series files-view-Set-dark-wallpaper-when-setting-wallpaper.patch * Cherry-pick patch to set the dark wallpaper when setting the * https://deb.li/ICij
[13:56] <KGB-0> nautilus ubuntu/master aebc0c9 Jeremy Bicha debian/changelog * releasing package nautilus version 1:42.0-1ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/3eycR
[14:07] <jbicha> GunnarHj: wow, I didn't know about this kind of bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1787542
[14:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1787542 in workrave (Ubuntu) "Enabling workrave GNOME extension breaks some translations" [Undecided, New]
[14:13] <seb128> extensions are fun!
[14:17] <GunnarHj> jbicha: There was some similar problem in DING, which seb128 patched, but it's now fixed upstream.
[14:17] <jbicha> seb128: 😭
[15:11] <KGB-0> orca signed tags aa605cf Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/42.0-1ubuntu1 * orca Debian release 42.0-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/GoTC
[17:28] <mathricci> Hello everyone. Execuse me, here's the Ubuntu Desktop Team IRC channel?
[18:31] <juliank> US folks here might want to run syncpackage -f  at-spi2-core in a couple hours when its available, as the new Debian upload has the same change as my recent ubuntu one, and that brings us back in sync :)
[18:37] <jbicha> juliank: thanks!
[19:46] <jbicha> seb128: could you try demoting libsuitesparse-dev to universe ? to see if that helps with our component-mismatch issue
[19:47] <jbicha> seb128: never mind. I found something else
[20:06] <seb128> jbicha, I had done that before, if it's back in main someone probably promoted it back because it was showing on component mismatch?
[20:21] <jbicha> seb128: I fixed it :)
[20:22] <seb128> jbicha, how?
[20:23] <jbicha> seb128: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu/commit/?id=6e42af6
[20:23] <ubottu> Commit 6e42af6 in ~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu "supported: Extra-Exclude: Add liblpsolve55-devHEADjammy"
[20:24] <seb128> jbicha, thanks