[00:31] <redhelmet> hi all
[00:36] <redhelmet> i cant seem to save files on ubuntu 18,its saying: not enough disk space,but it still has plenty.
[00:37] <sarnold> check both df -h and df -i
[00:37] <sarnold> it's very unlikely that you've run out of inodes, but it can happen
[00:37] <redhelmet> what to look for after using df command ?
[00:38] <sarnold> check to see if the filesystem you were trying to use is out of space or out of inodes
[00:39] <redhelmet> im sorry, can u link me on a site for the the steps?
[00:41] <redhelmet> tried googling 'cannot save on ubuntu18' or not enough disk space,but unsuccesfull w/ the suggestions
[00:43] <sarnold> redhelmet: the first half of this looks good https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/Linux-df-command
[00:43] <redhelmet> tnx.will check it
[00:48] <redhelmet> yeap,confirm, 100% use% , 0 for avail.. disk app is still showing plenty though..
[00:49] <redhelmet> *disk usage analyzer says: 7gb available
[00:56] <redhelmet> i tried some of the steps here : https://itsfoss.com/free-up-space-ubuntu-linux/ but still cant save files
[00:59] <sarnold> almost all those are to free up space on 'system filesystems'; only one of them appears to do anything for your home directory. depending upon which filesystems you've chosen to have, they may or may not help
[01:00] <redhelmet> which 1 is for the home directory sir?
[01:01] <sarnold> redhelmet: "Clean the thumbnail cache"
[01:01] <sarnold> you could probably also clear caches in your browser, if it's your home filesystem that's full
[01:03] <ogra> and empty your trash 😉
[01:03] <redhelmet> how to know if the partition is set as home filesystem ?
[01:03] <redhelmet> trash was the 1st thing i emptied
[01:03] <sarnold> inspecting the output of df -h output is a good approach
[01:06] <redhelmet> will this command help ? apt-get clean or should i do it 1x1
[01:07] <redhelmet> most the apps appearing after df -h has 0 avail and 100% use
[01:07] <sarnold> apt-get clean will clean up /var/cache/apt/archives/  -- if that directory is on the filesystem that is full, yes, that can help
[01:11] <redhelmet> i think the cache are not clearing by the apt-get clean,coz after doing another df -h,the apps still has same 0 avail and 100% use
[01:13] <sarnold> what do you mean by "the apps still has same 0"?
[01:13] <sarnold> what filesystem are you trying to make space on?
[01:15] <redhelmet> is that the partition type ? > what filesystem are you trying to make space on?
[01:15] <sarnold> where are you trying to create a new file?
[01:17] <redhelmet> coz im expecting them to be NOT 0 avail and 100% after using apt-get clean.. after doing apt-get clean did a 2x check for any changes by doing df -h,still same #s on avail and use
[01:18] <redhelmet> dev/sdb > where are you trying to create a new file?
[01:19] <Bashing-om> !pastebin | redhelmet
[01:24] <redhelmet> tried a restart,stil cant save
[01:25] <redhelmet> gtg.tnx for the trouble.TTL
[01:26] <redhelmet> sarnold and all :)
[01:38] <rdr> wow Bashing-om is a bad bot.  he typed a long line he didn't paste
[01:42] <sarnold> his latency is bad, too, sometimes it takes hours before he replies!
[01:42] <mybalzitch> tsk tsk.
[02:44] <redhelmet> hi all.may i ask for assistance on how to free up space in ubuntu 18?
[02:45] <oerheks> sudo apt autoremove
[02:46] <redhelmet> oerheks, did that before chatting,stil not helping w/ saving files
[02:47] <Bashing-om> redhelmet: Show us in a pastebin - ; df -h ' . so we are all on the same page.
[02:48] <oerheks> Baobab is a gui that shows what is eatin gup diskspace
[02:48] <oerheks> https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-disk-analyzer-tools-for-linux-system/
[02:50] <redhelmet> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qT5mHkY4yM/
[02:52] <oerheks>  /dev/sdc1        59G   32G   25G  56% /
[02:53] <redhelmet> oerheks, meaning ?
[02:53] <oerheks> enough space?
[02:54] <redhelmet> yeah,thats what i thought as well..
[02:54] <oerheks> 'mount' would show rw
[02:55] <sarnold> /dev/sdb1       147G  140G     0 100% /media/a/filedisk
[02:55] <Bashing-om> redhelmet: sdb1 is the partition in question ?
[02:55] <sarnold> where exactly are you trying to save this? :)
[02:56] <redhelmet> i usually save on sdb1
[02:56] <sarnold> try cd /media/a/filedisk ; ncdu    -- and then start looking for things to remove
[02:57] <oerheks> good tool yes
[03:04] <redhelmet> i thinks its working for now.. howcome it still has 7gb of freespace but it cannot save.. hmm
[03:05] <redhelmet> i lost some files,can they be recovered :(
[03:05] <Bashing-om> redhelmet: Lots and lots of little bitty files on the sdb1 partition ? what shows ' df -i ' .
[03:06] <enigma9o7[m]> that probably depends if you remember where you left them
[03:06] <enigma9o7[m]> did you check the freezer?
[03:06] <enigma9o7[m]> i once left my keys in there
[03:06] <Bashing-om> !undelete | redhelmet
[03:06] <redhelmet> enigma9o7[m], lol
[03:07] <redhelmet> the file is in notepad,it has contents before,but now its empty,can that be recovered ?
[03:07] <sarnold> redhelmet: some percentage of space in filesystems is reserved for the root user -- filesystems tend to get VERY UNHAPPY when they are actually completely full, so reserving some space for root only is very common
[03:08] <redhelmet> edit: the file IS a notepad
[03:11] <redhelmet> i remember the txt file location very well.but when i open it,its now empty
[03:11] <oerheks> nope, no recovery
[03:12] <redhelmet> ayt.tnx all. :)
[04:14] <dirtcastle> does anyone here have experience with running 3 os? specifically i need help for configuring my grub.
[08:18] <ms9944> hi
[08:37] <Guest958> Hello, I am walking around in RPI with ubuntu20.04 server. I edit password of wlan0 in /etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml for connecting my new WIFI. But after that, I still can't connect to network even I reboot my RPI. Is there anything wrong? Thanks gugs
[12:00] <xu-irc92w> !firefox
[12:00] <xu-irc92w> firefox is moved to snap, what does it mean
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> xu-irc92w: not on all releases
[12:02] <xu-irc92w> what
[12:02] <xu-irc92w> how to upgrade
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> xu-irc92w: wich version of ubuntu are you running?
[12:02] <xu-irc92w> xubuntu
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> thats your flavour, what about your release?
[12:03] <xu-irc92w> sudo snap update?
[12:04] <xu-irc92w> just tell me hhow to
[12:05] <ThinkT510> they need to know your release first
[12:05] <xu-irc92w> whatss newest version for ubuntu
[12:05] <xu-irc92w> idk
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> lsb_release -a
[12:08] <xu-irc92w> 20.04
[12:13] <ScaryGary> I've been experimenting with sssd and smartcard login on my ubuntu desktop. Somewhere along the way I lost my user list and I'm presented with a username prompt after startup. I'd like to restore the user list, but I haven't been able to figure out how. I've restored /etc/pam.d and /etc/gdm3 to the default using another working machine and I've checked with gsettngs that org.gnome.login-screen disable-user-list is set to false. I have
[12:13] <ScaryGary> no idea what to do from here.
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> xu-irc92w: then your firefox is still the apt version, it should not transition to the snap version
[12:17] <Voidwarper> is there somewhere a tarball of ubuntu for use in chroot?
[12:27] <ravage> Voidwarper: you can use debootstrap. Have a look at lxd. makes that a lot easier to manage
[12:30] <Voidwarper> ravage: does lcx offer better performance than chroot?
[12:30] <Voidwarper> i want the minimum overhead
[12:30] <ravage> no but it makes management a lot easier
[12:31] <ravage> and functionality in a chroot is always limited and there is no real seperation from your host system
[12:31] <Voidwarper> ravage: i want to run a windows game using wine, within the chroot
[12:32] <ravage> why do you need a chroot?
[12:32] <ravage> wine comes with its own prefixes
[12:32] <Voidwarper> ravage: my system doesn't have multilib
[12:32] <Voidwarper> and i need something debian based as a chroot
[12:32] <mitaro> Is anyone using QEMU on Ubuntu Desktop? I was trying to do so, then get into an issue while trying to create a new VM, the virt-manager warned me that the emulator might not be able to access the folder where the ISO I was trying to install was sitting, and proposed to mess all the permission to make it work. Obviously I politely refused but I did
[12:32] <mitaro> not find any good info on how this is supposed to work. Shall I create a home directory just for the emulator? How user/groups are supposed to be set?
[12:33] <ravage> and why dont you just let it set the permission for the iso?
[12:34] <ravage> or create a shared folder outside your home for ISOs?
[12:37] <mitaro> ravage: setting the permissions only for the ISO file will not work unless I grant access to all the folders on top of it - which I do not think is a good idea. I could create a new "home" folder for the emulator, where to store ISOs and disk images (I need to store them somewhere as well, and /var/lib/libvirt... does not sound a good place -
[12:37] <mitaro> limited space there) but what user/group it should belong to? libvirt/kvm?
[12:37] <jsbach> hi, i am using nemo as filemanager. Does nemo support dark theme?
[12:39] <ravage> mitaro: how does changing permissions use more space? let virt-manager set the permissions and it works. it only modifies the permissions of that file and maybe sets the x flag for the folder
[12:40] <ravage> and VMs need space. so figure our how to store them first
[12:41] <mitaro> ravage: never said that "changing permissions use more space" - and yes, it will set the x flag to all top folders which basically means that since that moment, all guest vm might eventually lurk in the home directory.
[12:42] <ravage> that is not what the execute flag does
[12:42] <ravage> you are only able to traverse through it. not read any contents
[12:43] <ravage> also only because qemu can read it does not mean your guest VMs have any access
[12:44] <Guest38> how stable is jammy now? Wiil changing focal to jammy in my apt/sources.list und apt updating break my system?
[12:44] <Chunkyz> !next | Guest38
[12:45] <ravage> Guest38: short answer. its not stable yet
[12:46] <mitaro> ravage: that's true however I would prefer to use a separate directory for VM things like ISOs and disk images, other than the user home - is that possible? (Well, I think it is possible, just I did not find information about the correct user/group)
[12:48] <ravage> the storage files itself are owned by root here
[12:48] <ravage> and the iso just has to be accessible
[12:48] <mitaro> ravage: owned by root? I thought there was a libvirt user or something
[12:49] <ravage> there is such a user yes
[12:49] <ravage> libvirt-qemu
[12:50] <ravage> should also work to assign it the qcow files to it
[12:50] <mitaro> ravage: yes, and if I'm not wrong the libvirt daemon should not run as root... but maybe I'm wrong - found too many information that I start to be confused
[12:50] <marc__> anyone know how to get the remote to work in linux for a creative Extigy usb sound card it works in Ubuntu but the features on it dont seem to work.
[12:51] <ravage> let the wizard create your VM and you see what the right permissions are
[12:51] <ravage> you can also choose the storage location
[12:51] <mitaro> ravage: yes, the default one in /var/lib... is not amazing if you ask me
[12:52] <ravage> you can select the location for it in the wizard
[12:52] <ravage> i made a symlink so i dont have to choose it every time
[12:55] <mitaro> ravage: let me give it a shot
[12:55] <mitaro> ravage: thank you
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:51] <blb399738> hello
[13:54] <Chunkyz> seems my USB3 external was *still* disconnecting. and the same error in dmesg. so I done sudo hdparm -S 0 /dev/sdb and no more disconnects. hopefully, time will tell. :-)
[14:49] <blb399738> test
[14:52] <blb399738> test blbblb399738: test
[14:54] <genii> !test
[14:55] <blb399738> sorry, wrong channel
[15:34] <olspookishmagus> trying to make my laptop dualboot to either Windows and Ubuntu
[15:34] <olspookishmagus> I see that Win10 uses three (3) primary partitions for it's installation
[15:34] <olspookishmagus> leaving only the data partition (and moving it to the start) of the disk
[15:34] <olspookishmagus> renders windows unbootable
[15:35] <olspookishmagus> I did some checks and saw that there were no bootmgr file
[15:35] <olspookishmagus> on that partition
[15:35] <olspookishmagus> after I did copy that from my partition backups
[15:35] <EriC^^> olspookishmagus: are you in the ubuntu live usb right now?
[15:35] <EriC^^> aha go on
[15:35] <olspookishmagus> EriC^^: I'm on my older laptop but I can do stuff you might suggest
[15:35] <EriC^^> did you get windows booting again?
[15:35] <olspookishmagus> no
[15:36] <EriC^^> did you have an efi/esp partition as one of the partitions?
[15:36] <olspookishmagus> after I put that bootmgr file the installer detects windows (before it didn't) and now creates a grub meny entry
[15:36] <olspookishmagus> but still unbootable
[15:36] <EriC^^> aha, so ubuntu is installed and booting now, but windows isnt, correct?
[15:37] <olspookishmagus> EriC^^: the partitions removed were "System Reserved" and "Recovery Partition"
[15:37] <olspookishmagus> EriC^^: both "installed" only Ubuntu boots
[15:37] <EriC^^> olspookishmagus: ok, type in ubuntu 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' and paste the link it gives you here
[15:37] <EriC^^> btw do you have a windows iso
[15:37] <olspookishmagus> yeap
[15:38] <EriC^^> good
[15:38] <olspookishmagus> but I have no network there because for some reason the firmware isn't "installed"
[15:38] <olspookishmagus> but I will do that manually give me a sec
[15:38] <EriC^^> olspookishmagus: hmm, can you use an ethernet cable?
[15:39] <olspookishmagus> I'm on a remote area and someone's phone is our hotspot :D
[15:40] <ravage> that phone can probably do USB tethering too to install the missing firmware and enable wifi
[15:40] <olspookishmagus> even worse: No parted
[15:40] <olspookishmagus> but I have fdisk
[15:41] <olspookishmagus> that seems an important debug step, how do I manually install the firmware? download the .deb and dpkg it?
[15:42] <ravage> do you know what firmware you need?
[15:42] <olspookishmagus> yeap
[15:42] <olspookishmagus> I even have the iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode on a USB
[15:42] <olspookishmagus> the installer uses it just fine but it doesn't "install it"
[15:43] <olspookishmagus> possible due to it being part of the "non-free" part of Ubuntu
[15:43] <ravage> the file is part of linux-firmware
[15:44] <ravage> its not in non-free
[15:44] <ravage> so you should have it installed really
[15:44] <ravage> does /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode exist?
[15:45] <EriC^^> olspookishmagus: try 'sudo ubuntu-drivers devices' it might list anything you need
[15:45] <ravage> if not and you have the file available anyway you can just try to copy it there
[15:46] <olspookishmagus> ravage: ok I'll just do that for now
[15:47] <olspookishmagus> I'm afraid that then I'll need some CLI tool to configure/connect to my AP
[15:47] <confuzeus> hi. i am using ubuntu 20.02. i have noticed some "strange" behavior with chromium on my system. i keep it open on the favourites list but it frequently "disappears" from the favourites even though it is still open. that is, the dot showing it is open disappears from the favourites even though chromium itself browser is still open. anyone knows how to change the behaviour
[15:47] <olspookishmagus> any suggestions on that?
[15:48] <ravage> olspookishmagus: if the device is detected you can configure your wifi in the desktop environment
[15:48] <olspookishmagus> ravage: provided I have a DE
[15:49] <olspookishmagus> which I don't
[15:49] <olspookishmagus> it's a messy situation cause I want to make sure I'll be able to dual boot
[15:49] <ravage> then you did a custom install and have to figure out how you enable wifi there
[15:49] <olspookishmagus> so I have a small space left because of the "backup partition"
[15:49] <olspookishmagus> ok I'll try that
[15:50] <ravage> the only official installer without a GUI is ubuntu server i think
[15:50] <olspookishmagus> spot on
[15:52] <ravage> confuzeus: the community cant support snaps. so maybe seek support at https://snapcraft.io/chromium
[15:52] <confuzeus> fine
[15:54] <olspookishmagus> my question is actually if the Win10 installation had three (3) partitions, if the recipe to have it working again in one partition is known
[15:54] <ravage> i dont run windows :) no idea
[15:54] <olspookishmagus> yeah, me neither
[15:55] <ravage> there is #windows if you need support with that OS
[15:55] <EriC^^> olspookishmagus: type 'sudo blkid /dev/sda' and look at the far right at the pttype
[15:56] <olspookishmagus> dos
[15:56] <olspookishmagus> (so no gpt)
[15:57] <EriC^^> olspookishmagus: when you moved the windows installation probably that's what broke it, cause it expects to look in a specific spot to boot it
[15:57] <EriC^^> aha
[15:57] <EriC^^> olspookishmagus: if you have a windows iso, you can easily make a bootable installation usb that works with uefi by making a fat32 partition and copying its contents there, then boot it in uefi mode, in the installer you'd go to advanced> cmd prompt
[15:58] <olspookishmagus> EriC^^: by "specific spot" you mean it has a file saying hook up from that "sector" and onwards?
[15:58] <EriC^^> olspookishmagus: from there you need to mount the windows filesystem using diskpart, and then exit and run the bcdboot or whatever commands, 1 sec
[15:58] <EriC^^> yeah
[15:58] <EriC^^> i think that's the gist of it
[15:59] <olspookishmagus> ok, I think I'll have to retry with another installation because this is serioussly messed up
[15:59] <olspookishmagus> no network-manager server, no ifconfig, no parted, no ...
[16:00] <EriC^^> ah actually you dont need diskpart for mbr fixing, see the bottom part of this guide, https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000124331/how-to-repair-the-efi-bootloader-on-a-gpt-hdd-for-windows-7-8-8-1-and-10-on-your-dell-pc
[16:00] <olspookishmagus> but, but... I don't have GPT?
[16:01] <olspookishmagus> but I'll give this a go
[16:01] <olspookishmagus> if I'm certain I can boot to Windows again
[16:01] <olspookishmagus> I will wipe the recovery partition and go for a full installation of a ubuntu as an option
[16:02] <EriC^^> the bottom part mentions the commands used for legacy/mbr booting systems
[16:02] <olspookishmagus> it's situtations like this that make my backpack seem like a hoarding symptom
[16:03] <olspookishmagus> Well I get: "Access Denied" on the "bootrec /fixboot" part.
[16:03] <EriC^^> i would first get windows booting, just make the installation usb, boot it, 3 commands
[16:03] <EriC^^> aha
[16:03] <olspookishmagus> I don't need an installation USB, I was lucky to have ordered an iODD 2541 http://iodd.kr/wordpress/product/iodd-2541/
[16:04] <Mathisen> olspookishmagus, rebuld your BCD then you wont get acess denied
[16:05] <EriC^^> olspookishmagus: also try to run a chkdsk, brb
[16:07] <EriC^^> olspookishmagus: try starting with "bootrec /rebuildbcd"
[16:32] <olspookishmagus> sorry for the delay, my niece and nephew stormed into my room and demanded a full scale attention
[16:33] <olspookishmagus> I'll try running the "StartUp Repair" to do its magic
[16:34] <olspookishmagus> that failed
[16:34] <olspookishmagus> and I also no longer have a power transformer capable of supporting my laptop while I'll in my car (my new one draws 135W of power)
[16:57] <EriC^^> olspookishmagus: try the bcdrebuild command then the other 2
[17:32] <pycurious> One a ubuntu box, I want to whitelist a few websites it has access to - how can i do this?
[18:06] <GoldkingG4> Helllo,is there any erquivalent to this video for ubuntu?
[18:06] <GoldkingG4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej0L8tGCSxg
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> GoldkingG4: you want to speedup ubuntu?
[18:08] <Mathisen> GoldkingG4, short version step 1: install a light window manager step 2: turn off animations if there is any step 3: dont have to much things running at the same time
[18:22] <GoldkingG4> And is there any ram booster program for ubuntu?
[18:24] <Maik> GoldkingG4: what are your system specs?
[18:28] <GoldkingG4> Operating System: Kubuntu 21.10
[18:28] <GoldkingG4> KDE Plasma Version: 5.22.5
[18:28] <GoldkingG4> KDE Frameworks Version: 5.86.0
[18:28] <GoldkingG4> Qt Version: 5.15.2
[18:28] <GoldkingG4> Kernel Version: 5.13.0-37-generic (64-bit)
[18:28] <GoldkingG4> Graphics Platform: X11
[18:28] <Maik> !paste | GoldkingG4
[18:28] <oerheks> rambooster, no.
[18:28] <Maik> !paste | GoldkingG4
[18:29] <Maik> heh...
[18:29] <GoldkingG4> lol
[18:29] <GoldkingG4> how do i send my specs
[18:29] <GoldkingG4> it wont let me
[18:29] <Maik> anyway GoldkingG4: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[18:30] <GoldkingG4> Processors: 4 × Intel® Core™ i5-7200U CPU @ 2.50GHz
[18:30] <GoldkingG4> Memory: 7.6 GiB of RAM
[18:30] <GoldkingG4> Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® HD Graphics 620
[18:30] <Mathisen> GoldkingG4, using KDE/plasma is not the best chooise if you want speed on lower hardware
[18:30] <GoldkingG4> there
[18:30] <Maik> should be enough to run Ubuntu/Kubuntu on
[18:30] <oerheks> no rambooster on linux.
[18:30] <GoldkingG4> I know right,but my pc is good so i think it can handle it with no problems
[18:31] <GoldkingG4> and I want to squeeze as much performance I can
[18:31] <Maik> want to speed KDE up?
[18:31] <GoldkingG4> yeah
[18:31] <Maik> go into the system settings and set the Anitmation Speed higher
[18:32] <GoldkingG4> is there any program for that? like baidu pc faster?
[18:32] <Maik> or to Instant
[18:32] <Maik> GoldkingG4: as said no
[18:32] <GoldkingG4> oh
[18:32] <GoldkingG4> i heard there was stuff like stacer or bleachvbit
[18:33] <Maik> not recommended to use those, if you don't know what you're doing you could end up with a bricked system
[18:33] <Mathisen> thats mostly usefull for diskcleanup
[18:33] <oerheks> those exists, but they just remove unused files, it does not really speed up.
[18:33] <Maik> autremove should do
[18:34] <GoldkingG4> so you guys are saying it is much more simple to speed up in ubuntu than on windows
[18:34] <oerheks> any 'pc faster' tool on windows is just a scam :-D
[18:34] <Maik> the speed up thing is something users think of due their Windows time
[18:34] <oerheks> have fun!
[18:34] <Maik> and mostly it's indeed just nonsense
[18:34] <Maik> GoldkingG4: you don't need anything
[18:35] <oerheks> https://downloadmoreram.com/
[18:35] <Maik> also nonsense i bet?
[18:35] <GoldkingG4> is that a scam
[18:35] <Mathisen> oerheks, well technically you could. mounting swap on a cloud drive
[18:35] <Mathisen> heh
[18:35] <oerheks> april foolsday joke
[18:35] <GoldkingG4> ram is software,not hardware
[18:36] <Maik> GoldkingG4: if you need more RAM just buy some new RAM Modules
[18:36] <Maik> see if you can upgrade to 16 GB RAM
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> or tweak your system to the bone
[18:38] <Maik> go CLI only :D
[19:27] <morganu> what does "upstream" mean here. "Installing XFCE will give you the upstream XFCE desktop environment."
[19:28] <morganu> in https://askubuntu.com/questions/91380/what-is-the-difference-between-ubuntuxfce-and-xubuntu  ---I have 20.04 old Dell 8G
[19:29] <morganu> that was 2015 so 7 years ago.
[19:30] <morganu> oh sorry someone explains upstream. I dont understand it but I can work with it in my mind for a while.
[19:32] <dubiousness> morganu: which bit don't you understand? :)
[19:35] <morganu> I dont think it is important to my thinking now. It say Ubuntu can change packages if they are Upstream to it and IDC about that.  - what I do want to know is what is going on that I must kill chrome (or firefox) every day or two of the computers slows towards freeze.
[19:36] <morganu> old dell 8G of memory 20.04.
[19:36] <morganu> i suspect ram, or memory management. I usually killall chrome -9
[19:37] <morganu> I can logout too. If I let it go too far, I have to hard-reboot.  dubiousness
[19:37] <oerheks> upstream means it is taken from the original source/development
[19:38] <dubiousness> What it means is that you'll get the version of the packages and any tweaks that the Ubuntu community provides, installing the "upstream" version of a package nets you what the developer of that package wants it to look/feel/control like.
[19:38] <oerheks> we deliver bugreports and fixes upstream, contributing back
[19:39] <oerheks> dubiousness +1, we have our gnome version, and there is vanilla-gnome-desktop
[19:39] <oerheks> as the gnome team created
[19:39] <oerheks> !info vanilla-gnome-desktop
[19:39] <dubiousness> Vanilla Gnome <3
[19:40] <oerheks> oh, and firefox hogging memory, it is the page fault.
[19:40] <oerheks> i don't see that on chome
[19:40] <morganu> Oh that looks nice. What if I want Vanilla Gnome. Can I load it as a DE or do I have to install is from an iso?
[19:41] <oerheks> morganu, install, logout, change to vanilla, login AFAIK
[19:41] <oerheks> or use the server iso to do a clean install
[19:42] <morganu> do I already have Vanilla? I am using the one that came with 20.04 with some tweaks to put the dock on the bottom.
[19:42] <oerheks> morganu, in short: no
[19:42] <morganu> I would reallylike to also have an application tree like xubuntu has.
[19:42] <oerheks> one needs to put the metapackages side by side, to see the differences
[19:42] <morganu> ok I will search for it.
[19:43] <morganu> I discovered corky, is this a DE? what is it actually?  Hhttps://www.linux.com/topic/desktop/how-install-and-configure-conky/
[19:44] <oerheks> no, it is just a monitoring tool
[19:45] <oerheks> longest tread on ubuntu forum; show us your conky .. 2300+ pages
[19:45] <oerheks> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=2348
[19:45] <morganu> oerheks, thanks. I will look it up and figure it out.  (I made a persistent USB for 21.10 but have not tried it yet. Am excited.)
[19:45] <morganu> that was thanks for the vanilla comment and also for the corky.
[19:45] <oerheks> have fun!
[19:47] <morganu> another question. say I want to make a desktop widget to do proportions. where do I start?
[19:48] <morganu> (I was a programmer long ago, but never on a PC or any kind.)
[19:56] <markmcb> i have a headless server that shows a magenta full-screen menu to restart services when i upgrade via apt ... is there a way to disable this?
[19:58] <dubiousness> markmcb: you could configure Unattended Upgrades
[19:58] <dubiousness> There are configuration options for automatically upgrading services
[19:58] <dubiousness> s/upgrading/restarting/g
[19:59] <markmcb> thanks, but i don't want to auto-upgrade. i just want to get rid of that magenta screen/prompt during the apt process.
[20:03] <dubiousness> markmcb: When you say 'get rid of' what do you mean? You want to have the services just restart without asking you?
[20:03] <markmcb> do whatever the upgrade script does by default
[20:04] <markmcb> what's interesting, i don't get this screen on a fresh install of 22.04 ... it's only on a server that's been upgraded a few times ... so it's like some old, non-default config that I can't seem to find
[20:13] <yuesbeez> Ubuntu 20.04 when I use systemctl suspend I get stuck at black screen with white cursor but pm-suspend works great. how can i fix systemctl suspend or switch the suspend button to use the pm-suspend command
[20:26] <markmcb> I think I may have found it. The system that shows this prompt has "needrestart" package installed. The system that doesn't, doesn't have this package.
[20:34] <ogra> !next | markmcb
[20:35] <seifeslimene> I use Ubuntu 20.04 sometimes the system get totally frozen...
[20:45] <markmcb> ogra, thanks, but to clarify this issue isn't unique to 22.04
[20:46] <ogra> markmcb, you should file a bug then i guess against the package asking the question
[20:46] <seifeslimene> markmcb Is there a way to look into the problem after it happened? like for example see logs...
[20:48] <markmcb> ogra, it's not a bug. if needrestart is installed, you get the prompt. if it's not, you don't. i'll have to confirm with a upgrade that requires a service restart, but the man pages seem to indicate all i need to do is uninstall it.
[20:59] <jacintillo> 20.04.4 LTS vanilla Ubuntu on a ThinkPad W150 here. How do I get FireFox Nightly as a favorite to add it to the dock?
[21:00] <ogra> markmcb, well, in 22.04 it is in the default seed for ubuntu-server-minimal ... we used to have a policy of not asking questions once (and in that case it would be a bug), not sure what happened to that ...
[21:01] <ogra> probably that policy changed
[21:02] <ogra> jacintillo, just right-click the icon while FF nightly is running ... the context menu should offer you to keep the icon there
[21:02] <jacintillo> ogra: Ohh. Nice idea.
[21:02] <jacintillo> Let me try.
[21:03] <jacintillo> ogra: No luck. All it gives is 'Quit' and 'All Windows.'
[21:04] <ogra> hmm, you should have something like "add to favourites" ... strange
[21:05] <jacintillo> Hm.
[21:05] <ogra> how did you install FF ?
[21:06] <Dr-007> hi guys. i copied my hdd's ubuntu to a usb thumbdrive. chrooted into it installed grub EFI on another usb partition and successfully booted from the USB. which is awesome! but it is very slow. which i kinda saw coming, but i didnt expect it to be THIS slow. so, my question: is it possible to make the usb rootfs read only? i think it'll be alot quicker then.
[21:06] <jacintillo> ogra: It isn't 'installed.' I execute the pre-compiled binary from their website.
[21:07] <ogra> jacintillo, ah ... then it likely desnt install its .desktop file properly into the system ... i'd google for that
[21:08] <ogra> *doesn't
[21:08]  * jacintillo nods.
[21:08] <jacintillo> Cheers.
[21:08] <ogra> good luck 🙂
[21:09] <jacintillo> 🙂
[22:08] <murthy> Hello everyone
[22:09] <oerheks> :-)
[22:09] <murthy> oerheks: hi
[22:09] <murthy> oerheks: I am using Chromium browser via snaps
[22:10] <murthy> oerheks: the icon is not getting displayed. Should I consider this as a warrant canary sign?
[22:10] <murthy> Also how can I know if any of the Ubuntu devs under gag order?
[22:11] <oerheks> on what ubuntu version?
[22:12] <murthy> oerheks: using kde neon user edition iso. but Ubuntu version is 20.04
[22:12] <oerheks> oh neon, not supported here as #kubuntu, afaik
[22:13] <murthy> oerheks: chromium version 99.0.4844.84 build 1945
[22:13] <murthy> oerheks: can you check the chromium snap?
[22:13] <murthy> if the latest version's icon is getting displayed properly?
[22:13] <oerheks> yes, but my icon appears on ubuntu/gnome
[22:14] <oerheks> no test for neon, i think you should find their channel
[22:14] <murthy> oerheks: what the chromium version of snap you are using?
[22:14] <oerheks> also snaps have a lot of options
[22:15] <leftyfb> murthy: type:   /join #kubuntu
[22:15] <oerheks> with neon, leftyfb ?
[22:15] <murthy> oerheks: If its the same version we both are using then it must be distro/iso specific
[22:15] <leftyfb> oerheks: no idea, thought that's where you were sending them
[22:15] <murthy> leftyfb: Ya sure, but I just need the version
[22:15] <murthy> oerheks: can you give me the version?
[22:16] <leftyfb> murthy: you are not running Ubuntu. Please seek support from your distro vendor
[22:16] <leftyfb> murthy: you can also ask for help with snaps in #snappy
[22:17] <lalitmee> So, by mistake I did a fresh install and after that I added another user with different username. Now I have removed that user but when I login into my system it is not detecting that user automatically and in the settings too it doesn't show any user. and when I try to add `lalitmee` which is already there it is saying that user name not available
[22:18] <lalitmee> how can I make my user to come automatically on greeter instead of typing the username. Then I will have to simply type password for that.
[22:18] <leftyfb> lalitmee: remove all other users
[22:19] <lalitmee> leftyfb: but all other users are for some applications too. I can't remove that.
[22:19] <lalitmee> it will create a lot of problem
[22:19] <lalitmee> don't you think?
[22:19] <leftyfb> lalitmee: not system users. Only users you have added
[22:19] <lalitmee> leftyfb: I have removed that user `lalitkumar`
[22:21] <leftyfb> lalitmee: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; grep :x:[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]: /etc/passwd ) nc termbin.com 9999
[22:33] <Dr-007> hey guys, im looking to make an iso from my current ubuntu o.s. so i can then make a persistent bootable usb drive from it (and i read somewhere that the o.s. installer will then autoreveal)
[22:34] <lalitmee> leftyfb: give me a minute
[22:35] <leftyfb> lalitmee: all you have to do is copy and paste the command onto your terminal, hit enter and paste the resulting URL here
[22:36] <lalitmee> leftyfb: actually there was a pipe missing from the command so it was giving error. I figured it out and this is the url https://termbin.com/axvo
[22:37] <leftyfb> lalitmee: damn, you're right, sorry
[22:37] <lalitmee> leftyfb: no problem
[22:37] <leftyfb> !popos | lalitmee
[22:38] <leftyfb> lalitmee: I will tell you, look in /passwd for users with UID's over 1000
[22:38] <lalitmee> leftyfb: okk and then
[22:39] <leftyfb> lalitmee: beyond that, you need to seek support for your distro from the distro vendor. You are not running Ubuntu
[22:39] <lalitmee> leftyfb: ohh
[22:39] <Dr-007> basicly my question would be: should i have to install the casper package in the current o.s.? ill probably use this guide to make a bootable image from my ubuntu: https://hostingcontroller.com/english/support/HC-Virtualization-Module/WebHelp/HC-Templates/Xen-Templates/Creating_Disk_Image_for_Root_Filesystem.htm
[22:41] <Dr-007> never mind, i just installed it. hehe
[22:54] <Dr-007> sometimes i forget that there's probably GUI tools which will do everything im trying to do by hand
[22:54] <Dr-007> i'm going to use sudo apt install systemback
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