[00:20] <webchat23> hi
[00:20] <webchat23> i need welp
[00:21] <webchat23> whats the gnome's default font
[00:24] <webchat23> eita bixo sxo
[00:24] <webchat23> sexo
[00:24] <webchat23> arent you gonna ban me
[00:25] <webchat23> all of yours are guei
[00:25] <webchat23> gfym
[00:53] <en11gma> i just installed ubuntu 20.04 daily (amd64.iso 03-23-22) to my usb stick with rufus 3.17p. i made a persistent partition, selected far32 and gpt. how do i make that partition work when i boot the usb stick? do i need to give an advanced option at boot time?
[01:05] <en11gma> ok i gonna try it again but it dont appear to be finding the persistent partition rufus created from windows. i was formatted ntfs last time. this time im fat32 so maybe that had something to do with it.
[01:05] <en11gma> bbiab
[01:14] <blahboybaz> Trying to watch a show on my laptop and the volume so low I can't hear it. I know this is a commonly asked question (this isn't the first time I've had the problem myself). I've tried everything I know. All the volumes are maxed out. Alsa is maxed out, pulse audio is installed and maxed out. What is left? Is there any other solution to be had?
[01:16] <dTal> is there a "raise maximum volume" box in the volume applet, or this that a KDE thing?
[01:17] <dTal> if you've raised every available slider in alsamixer for your soundcard, there's not much else you can do
[01:17] <blahboybaz> dTal: I'm running standard 20.04 (not any flavor) - just the regular ubuntu whatever de that is
[01:18] <Gallomimia> okay so i've got quite a few steam games now that either open and close with no message or attempt to load, or quit to desktop without any message. where should i be looking for an output saying what happened?
[01:19] <blahboybaz> dTal: I did just find something in settings because of what you said and it does make a slight difference (the sound in the vid is disgustingly low) - maybe enough difference to actually watch it - it isn't a nice movie experience by any stretch of the imagination though
[01:20] <blahboybaz> Gallomimia: dmesg?  I'm really not certain that would show you what you are looking for but its what I think of
[01:21] <Gallomimia> i don't think it's a kernel error...
[01:21] <blahboybaz> I'm not like any guru or anything but dmesg I think shows stuff abotu start up
[01:21] <blahboybaz> oh
[01:21] <blahboybaz> my bad
[01:22] <Gallomimia> yes i'm not 100% sure but those are output messages from the kernel. most command line programs would give some kind of error message on quit, or at least pass a number that's not zero to say not everything is peachy
[01:22] <dTal> Gallomimia: try launching steam from a terminal
[01:22] <Gallomimia> but with these GUI heavy steam games.... there's nothing
[01:22] <blahboybaz> There's ps aux
[01:22] <blahboybaz> just saying
[01:22] <Gallomimia> yeah? that'd help i think. i guess, then i could fork it and all that
[01:22] <dTal> or launching the game from the terminal, I dunno how steam works
[01:22] <blahboybaz> another one I'm trying to remember too
[01:22] <Gallomimia> yeah ps aux won't help since the program in question has already quit
[01:23] <Gallomimia> but involving a terminal so i can read any such messages is a pretty good idea
[01:23] <blahboybaz> I'm out. I dont' think I have the chops for this but I wanted to try to be helpful..  :)
[01:23] <Gallomimia> unsure yes dTal of whether i should launch the game or the steam launcher from term
[01:23] <Gallomimia> blahboybaz, no don't be too hard on yourself. we can learn stuff together
[01:24] <blahboybaz> It is what it is - I'm seeing what's said too tho
[01:25] <blahboybaz> I'm trying to remember this one thing
[01:25] <blahboybaz> htop?
[01:25] <blahboybaz> I think that's networking or something tho
[01:27] <Gallomimia> there's an nvtop
[01:27] <Gallomimia> it works very poorly toh
[01:27] <Gallomimia> anyway.... yeah. that gave lots of output from the launching of steam itself, and the game i was trying to launch
[01:27] <Gallomimia> ..... none of it makes any sense to me tho ;)
[01:28] <blahboybaz> I have htop on mine its real time system monitor shows ev going on
[01:28] <blahboybaz> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Htop
[01:28] <Gallomimia> oh i just use regular top
[01:29] <blahboybaz> oh
[01:29] <Gallomimia> seems a lot nicer
[01:29] <blahboybaz> It has pretty colors..  :)
[01:30] <Gallomimia> yeah
[01:30] <blahboybaz> not that that helps you tho
[01:30] <blahboybaz> I'm sorry
[01:30] <blahboybaz> my level of experience is a joke
[01:30] <Gallomimia> nah i might start using this more often
[01:30] <blahboybaz> good luck
[01:30] <Gallomimia> ah, i do recall being there
[01:30] <Gallomimia> then someone in this channel said i should play with raid and cryptfs and LVM and that seemed neat, but when things broke, i really really had to learn a lot to fix it
[01:31] <blahboybaz> I built a gentoo system once - raid 5 on a tower I built that had 9tb (3, 3tb drives)
[01:31] <blahboybaz> that was a long time ago
[01:31] <Gallomimia> yes i miss my raid5
[01:32] <Gallomimia> but i dropped it on my face and killed one drive, while severely damaging the other 2
[01:32] <blahboybaz> that sucks
[01:32] <Gallomimia> they ran for awhile but i eventually figured out that they're chugging because of the damage.
[01:32] <blahboybaz> someone ripped me off for mine
[01:32] <Gallomimia> the data is still recoverable i just have to do it
[01:32] <Gallomimia> oh man.... i'm sorry to hear that
[01:32] <blahboybaz> had almost 2k into it and that was 10yrs ago
[01:33] <blahboybaz> he'll get his I'm sure
[01:34] <blahboybaz> Imna go back to my show. Wish you the best Gallomimia. Nice talking
[01:34] <oops> my laptop integrated GPU is "HD graphics 520", does it support two monitor displaying different content ? if it does , how to configure it in Ubuntu?
[01:34] <Gallomimia> cheers. i got no luck with this but a few things of insight
[01:35] <Gallomimia> oops if you can hook up a second monitor, it should be configurable under "Display Settings"
[01:41] <oops> Gallomimia: one monitor is built-in with laptop , another is external monitor connecting with HDMI , in display setting panel , it 's only one monitor
[01:57] <Gallomimia> it's possible your laptop has a hardware switch to turn the "projector" connection on and off. you might have to search for instructions on that specific laptop model
[02:44] <jhutchins> Down to 332.  A constant bleed-down might suggest a snowball process building up and eating up bandwidth.  Maybe get a sniffer between the router and the modem?
[02:45] <jhutchins> I really doubt it's a process on the computers though, because it hasn't just been a constant drop-off, and it would have recovered when I rebooted all the devices.
[03:03] <jhutchins> Yeah, bounced back up again, not a steady decline.
[03:06] <Gallomimia> well, if you have determined it's not any of your PCs, and don't need more information one what your ubuntu machine might be doing, i must suggest that this is a ##networking problem. you might need to do things like turn off the WiFi to try isolating it. or it might be complex, provider specific, or.... anything.
[03:57] <unawarekid> rm -r ~
[03:57] <unawarekid> no pass everythings gone and crash on next login
[03:57] <unawarekid> if ~ does not exist mkdir ~ && mkdir ~/Desktop will fix the crash if you put it in .bashrc
[03:57] <unawarekid> oh nvm
[03:58] <unawarekid> thats gone too
[03:59] <unawarekid> /etc/bash.bashrc needs the if statement that checks for ~, and if there is no ~ make ~, ~/Desktop, and ~/.bashrc and ~/.profile
[04:00] <unawarekid> where bashrc and profile would have to echo the default text or copy a backup not in home folder
[04:02] <unawarekid> again that fixes the crash but the files would need to be recovered
[04:02] <unawarekid> ill make a script hold on
[04:20] <unawarekid> this script is to prevent the crash before it happens https://pastebin.com/c2FZc6WV
[04:21] <unawarekid> take out the su
[04:22] <unawarekid> and use absolute paths with username variable
[07:39] <null1> does kubuntu come with snapd preenabled?
[07:40] <Unit193> chromium and firefox are only available via snap as of jammy, so I imagine soon it will be if it's not now.
[08:03] <Dr-007> hey guys. ive made a livecd from ubuntu with boot-repair inthere. i ran it but boot-repair also modified my usb's EFI partition (in boot-repair i had the replace windows stuff checkbox checked)
[08:04] <Dr-007> what does boot-repair do under the hood? because in the livecd ive made a script to simply copy the rootfs from the cd/usb back to my hdd then run boot-repair to add the newly copied ubuntu to grub.
[08:05] <Dr-007> in other words, how would i do the os-prober myself?
[08:13] <Dr-007> right. ive found the boot-repair scripts
[08:35] <ms9944> hi
[09:24] <Syzygy> I'm copying a large amount of files and the process gets stuck on single files for a long time often.
[09:24] <Syzygy> how can I speed this up?
[09:25] <Syzygy> I do not believe that there are this many large files that I'm copying.
[09:27] <hamburger_> hi all
[09:27] <hamburger_> how is Our ubuntu code ?
[09:27] <hamburger_> kubuntu.org
[09:27] <hamburger_> you like it ?
[09:27] <hamburger> that's the best for desktop
[09:27] <hamburger> it really code with c++ and wxwidget
[09:27] <hamburger> but well for client better use windows
[09:28] <hamburger> get it from getintopc.com
[09:28] <hamburger> get windows 11 pro
[09:28] <hamburger> is volume license there from Us
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[09:28] <hamburger> ah just frog
[09:28] <hamburger> like your the coder of Ubuntu
[09:38] <Dr-007> running this cmd from an ubuntu livecd `grub-mkconfig -o /tmp/friso_grub.cfg` i get: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'
[09:42] <Dr-007> hmz.. i read online somewhere that i should chroot into the os with /boot stuff
[09:47] <hamburger> //
[09:54] <Jeremy31> Dr-007: or you could install boot repair
[09:54] <Dr-007> Jeremy31, boot-repair also modifies EFI on my USB
[09:54] <Dr-007> so i figured ill make a shell script myself
[09:55] <Dr-007> this works: chroot ${grubfs} /bin/bash -c "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /tmp/defriso_grub.cfg && exit"
[09:55] <alkisg> Dr-007: what are you trying to do, uncompress the filesystem.squashfs into a usb stick and make that bootable? Why, that also contains things that are only appropriate for non-installed sessions...
[09:57] <Dr-007> no, ive already got a bootable livecd usb and now i want to copy the rootfs back to my hdd
[09:57] <Dr-007> and yes that is the filesystem.squashfs. but everything is inthere since i made it myself
[09:57] <alkisg> What was your source, a local ubuntu installation or the ubuntu live cd?
[09:58] <Dr-007> a local ubuntu installation
[09:59] <alkisg> And did you get it to use cow?
[09:59] <alkisg> The steps are different based on what you have
[09:59] <Dr-007> yeah it works now
[09:59] <alkisg> Local installations usually don't use overlayfs/cow systems
[10:03] <Dr-007> yes, that was my error
[10:03] <Dr-007> i ran the grub-mkconfig inside the livecd environment
[10:04] <Dr-007> i had to chroot into the partition that hosts ubuntu on my hdd (or where grub is installed) then run it there
[10:04] <Dr-007> so: chroot ${grubfs} /bin/bash -c "sudo grub-mkconfig -o /tmp/defriso_grub.cfg && exit"
[10:07] <hamburger> how to use cron ?
[10:07] <Dr-007> crontab -e
[10:07] <hamburger> anyone  know dr-007
[10:07] <hamburger> ahhhhh
[10:07] <hamburger> how to use it ?
[10:07] <hamburger> alkisg you know ?
[10:07] <hamburger> what is crontab -e ?
[10:07] <Dr-007> crontab -e will open it. then you have to figure out what to add
[10:08] <Dr-007> https://researchhubs.com/post/computing/linux-cmd/awesome-crontab-job-examples.html
[10:08] <hamburger> ahhh
[10:08] <hamburger> are you guys PHD ?
[10:09] <hamburger> i see
[10:09] <hamburger> no wonder is NUS and NTU
[10:09] <hamburger> just wala wala
[10:09] <hamburger> from The Most High
[10:12] <Dr-007> if you add a command that generates an error then crontab will fail to commands that come below that on
[10:20] <talhah> hamburger is just a troll, he was trolling in #linux earlier
[10:36] <bailsman> What are the odds of getting a version bump at this stage of the ubuntu 22.04 lifecycle? Ubuntu 22.04 makes the unified cgroup hierarchy the default, but ships a version of cadvisor that cannot handle that properly yet.
[10:38] <bailsman> same issue on 21.10
[10:41] <bailsman> I wonder if this means that debian should update first.
[11:20] <ogra> bailsman, first and foremost it means you should file a bug so the developers know about it asap 😉
[11:29] <ignorand1> hi all got a machine with no internet access, and I want to install acl. How can I do it offline?
[11:35] <bailsman> ogra: where? In debian?
[11:35] <ogra> bailsman, no, in ubuntu indeed
[11:36] <ogra> so the devs can decide if it is worth a local patch or if they can wait to SRU a fix from debian later
[11:38] <hamburger> how to cut in perl ?
[13:10] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:18] <iomari892> greetings, where can I get java-5 for 21.10 that works? I have an old software that use that version of java and I can't seem to find a java that old anywhere.
[13:24] <ravage> iomari892: https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/java-archive-javase5-downloads.html
[14:18] <Dr-007> hey guys. question. ive made a livecd from my installed ubuntu. then i made a script to copy back the livecd to an empty partition, update the fstab to match the uuid of that partition and update grub on the partition grub is running on according to the EFI partition ... the copied OS shows up in grub when i boot. when i select it ubuntu boots. but when i check `mount` i see that the wrong ubuntu partition has been loaded. i verified the grub.cfg and the
[14:18] <Dr-007> UUID is pointing towards the new partition. what could i be forgetting? should i regenerate the initrd or something?
[14:49] <alkisg> Dr-007: what's the output of `cat /proc/cmdline` from the booted system?
[14:49] <alkisg> Dr-007: and also, the output of `cat /etc/fstab`
[15:29] <signofzeta> I'm having an odd performance issue with my system.  I sometimes encode videos. If I don't overclock, it runs at about 3 fps and my fans/temps stay low.  If I overclock even 25 MHz, it jumps up to 16 fps and the fans/temps shoot up.  Is this an Ubuntu thing (21.10), or something with my BIOS?  I did run cpufreq-info and `cat /proc/cpuinfo` and it always says my processor is running at full speed.
[15:34] <BluesKaj> signofzeta, to which format do you encode the video and which application do you use?
[15:36] <signofzeta> I use Handbrake, mostly in H.264.
[15:42] <BluesKaj> suggest you try ffmpeg, it's a terminal app that use fewer resources
[15:44] <jhutchins> ffmpeg is perfectly adequate for transcoding, in fact, it's a better tool because it's more focused.
[15:47] <signofzeta> ok, thank you
[16:34] <dirtcastle> how to format a partition?
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning | dirtcastle
[16:35] <dirtcastle> should I mount it to a directory and do rm -rf *
[16:35] <dirtcastle> i mean delete everything
[16:35] <leftyfb> dirtcastle: there's no point if you're formatting it
[16:35] <dirtcastle> of what's inside a partition
[16:36] <dirtcastle> what? why
[16:37] <leftyfb> dirtcastle: formatting a partition overwrites the data on the partition
[16:38] <Dr-007> formatting is deleting. when you use GUI tools they zero out a partition. but mkfs.ext4 / mkfs.ntfs "quick" formats a partition
[16:38] <Dr-007> then the files are there. but the mkfs resetted the file listing so it seems like theyre not
[16:38] <en11gma> i was making a persistent drive in ubuntu 20.04.4 amd64 last night and got it to work on my usb 16GB stick. gpt/fat32/11GB persistent. problem is that it is super slow when running. is there a way i can attach an external hdd formatted gpt/fat32 and make that whole drive the persistent partition and make the usb 16GB stick with no partitions?
[16:39] <Dr-007> en11gma, i also made a livecd thumb drive this week
[16:40] <Dr-007> i dont know the answers to yours questions per se. buuut... at first i just cloned all files to an usb thumbdrive then installed grub onto an EFI partition and it booted
[16:40] <en11gma> thats the ez part. the hard part is getting it to be persistent and still have some lever of performance
[16:40] <Dr-007> but it was suuuuper slow
[16:40] <Dr-007> so i finally found a guide online to make the live cd
[16:41] <en11gma> if you use rufus to write the iso file with no partition to a usb 3.0 stick its pretty fast
[16:41] <Dr-007> but since youre talking about persistence i assume that you followed such a guide
[16:41] <en11gma> i just use rufus and select gpt/fat32/iso file
[16:41] <en11gma> click write
[16:41] <Dr-007> (my livecd with loopbacks is super fast tho, it just doesnt have persistance yet)
[16:41] <en11gma> if you want a persistent it gets more complicated
[16:42] <en11gma> i used persistence with the 'toram' option at boot time and its still horrible
[16:42] <en11gma> so when the ubuntu live usb booted everything was booted into ram
[16:42] <en11gma> so it should have been fast
[16:42] <en11gma> as it only needed to write for the persistence
[16:43] <Dr-007> yeah i didnt use rufus so i wouldnt know. can you confirm if you `df -lh` you have a bunch of loopback devices?
[16:43] <Dr-007> like /dev/loop0      5,8G  5,8G     0 100% /cdrom
[16:45] <dirtcastle> I have 2 ssd. one has windows. another has ubuntu.  should I grub reside in window's ssd or can it be inside ubuntu's
[16:46] <en11gma> everyone knows ubuntu and windows will fight over the bootloader at some point.
[16:46] <Dr-007> dirtcastle, it can be in the same. i made a seperate EFI partition for windows. booted windows live stick shift + f10 and bcdboot.exe and copied their stuff into the second EFI partition
[16:47] <en11gma> you will see after using it for a while. maybe even months. there will be some update and you will probably lose your windows partition or at least have trouble restoring it so it can boot.
[16:47] <Dr-007> i did this because i also installed windows 11 and wanted to boot windows 10 or 11 directly from grub and not be presented with windows's "grub" (bootmngr)
[16:48] <en11gma> it will happen right after you trust it and so "oh this works just fine" and then BOOM!
[16:48] <dirtcastle> 🤔 ok. got it.
[16:49] <en11gma> https://www.quora.com/How-can-you-prevent-Windows-from-overwriting-GRUB-when-using-a-dual-boot-machine-Windows-dual-boot-GRUB2-UNIX
[16:50] <en11gma> "I don’t think you can. But you can fix it in 2 minutes with a boot-repair stick."
[16:50] <en11gma> thats the very first line. and its from 2021
[16:50] <Dr-007> yeah, thats if your bios is persistent on windows stuff.
[16:50] <Dr-007> i had those troubles too
[16:50] <en11gma> bios persistent?
[16:50] <en11gma> what
[16:51] <en11gma> todays bios use TPM and Secure Boot. try and restore that and let me know how it goes
[16:51] <en11gma> if you are on a newer motherboard. maybe from last few years or so
[16:51] <en11gma> and running windows 11
[16:52] <Dr-007> basicly. if you got 1 EFI partition with windows's bootmgr and GRUB. they move they replace window's bootmgr with GRUB. but this will make it so that you cant boot into windows. so then you need that second EFI partition
[16:52] <en11gma> sometimes windows 10
[16:52] <Dr-007> but thats only with stuborn bios's
[16:52] <en11gma> it wont mess with secure boot or tpm?
[16:52] <Dr-007> so you got to figure that out
[16:53] <Dr-007> en11gma, for secure boot you might need the EFI SHIM
[16:53] <Dr-007> EFI GRUB SHIM
[16:53] <Dr-007> or something like that
[16:53] <Dr-007> google on it. i just disabled secure boot since my pc isnt physicaly touchable by others
[16:56] <en11gma> yea that too complicated for me. i think i will just pull my win11 nvme m.2 and hook the external hdd with usb to sata adapter or hook it straight to my mb with sata cable and run ubuntu safely and when i want to go back to windows i unhook the ubuntu drive and put back the nvme m.2 with win11 on it. only way to 100% not mess it up i think
[16:57] <en11gma> unless there is a good guide someone can put up. somehow either when the ubuntu boot manager loads up (super grub) or the win boot manager loads up it will overwrite one or the other. always this constant stugle since the beginning
[16:58] <Dr-007> yeah that's only when your bios is old / windows loyal
[16:58] <Dr-007> but then again... sometimes its the only way
[16:58] <en11gma> at some point in time nothing can stop it. it will happen during an ubuntu system upgrade or even a windows upgrade
[16:58] <Dr-007> thats why i splitted my EFI partitions
[16:58] <Dr-007> 1 for ubuntu, 1 for windows 10 and 1 for windows 11
[16:58] <en11gma> nah ive had many systems over the years and my systems are usually name brand motherboards with up to date bios's and operating systems
[16:59] <en11gma> it sounds like you might know the fix and have a work around
[16:59] <Dr-007> i'd like to think so ;)
[16:59] <en11gma> so which boot manager do you wind up using? windows or ubuntu?
[17:00] <Dr-007> my bios will goto GRUB
[17:00] <Dr-007> and from GRUB i can choose windows boot manager for windows 10 or 11
[17:00] <ens> on my system i just press F9 to get to the EFI boot manager and select windows or linux from there.
[17:00] <en11gma> F9 lets you pick the drive?
[17:01] <en11gma> that grub is on?
[17:01] <en11gma> i think thats my F12
[17:01] <Dr-007> ens, i have such a feauture too but it didnt work out so well. so my bios is stupid
[17:02] <Dr-007> en11gma, i can make pastes for you but i dont think you'll notice the signifagance
[17:03] <ens> yeah it just offers a list of efi boot options and i select whichever. i am not sure how it would work with multiple disks though.
[17:03] <en11gma> you have to make sure your drives and usb stick are formatted gpt before you install any os or you cant use tpm or secure boot with win11 or ubuntu
[17:03] <Dr-007> i only discovered the shi**y behaviour after failed tries
[17:04] <en11gma> for windows i think you can alternate click on the drive and select properties (i think) and it will say if its gpt/mbr and if secure boot is functional or not
[17:06] <en11gma> "msinfo32"
[17:07] <en11gma> shit. mine shows secure boot off. brb
[17:07] <en11gma> i got to go into bios
[17:13] <NMRocks> Hi
[17:15] <Dr-007> question: ive extracted a copy ubuntu to another partition on my hdd. from what ive got running. i updated /etc/stab and grub. in grub the new partition is showing up. it boots. but when i enter the ubuntu OS, in terminal `mount | grep sd` gives me not the partition i copied the rootfs into. it gives me the partition i copied it from in the first place. so i thought.. it should be my /etc/fstab but thats certainly o.k. then i thought maybe i just need to
[17:15] <Dr-007> update/recreate my initramfs in this new partition (so i created a new one once i was chrooted into it) ... but no luck. any suggestions?
[17:17] <rob0> The rootfs is loaded by the kernel or initrd directly, not from fstab(5)
[17:18] <Dr-007> so my initrd isnt good? although i updated it?
[17:19] <rob0> initrd does a pivot-root to change to the one passed to the kernel as rootfs
[17:20] <Dr-007> rob0, a little more info please. what do you think i should regenerate?
[17:22] <Dr-007> this is what i do: chroot "/mnt/targetfs" /bin/bash -c "sudo update-initramfs -c -k $(uname -r) && exit"
[17:22] <Dr-007> and the initramfs is re...
[17:22] <rob0> check the boot loader, I guess?
[17:22] <Dr-007> are you not talking about initramfs?
[17:22] <rob0> ensure it has the right rootfs and the right initrd
[17:23] <Dr-007> i know the rootfs UUID is right. but i havent checked the initrd in grub
[17:23] <Dr-007> thnx
[17:23] <Dr-007> ill have a look
[17:23] <Dr-007> this thing is driving me nuts
[17:26] <Dr-007> well i found it
[17:27] <Dr-007> rob0, https://dpaste.com/9LEEP7MJJ on the top the uuid is alright
[17:28] <Dr-007> but when the initrd stuff is coming in the uuid is different
[17:28] <Dr-007> this is autogenerated via sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:29] <Dr-007> so thats wierd, right?
[17:31] <Rusty_Almighty> Does anyone know of a mirror that contains both arm64 and amd64 architectures?
[17:35] <ogra> Dr-007, you shouldnt run grub-mkconfig directly ... use update-grub instead (there are various scripts that need to be processed first which update-grub does for you)
[17:38] <Dr-007> ogra, hmzmzmz, ok. i will embed it in my script. i hope you're right!
[17:39] <Dr-007> (i read online that grub-mkconfig is the same as update-grub only 'universal' for linux os's. but you, indirectly, say they wrong)
[17:39] <ravage> Rusty_Almighty: https://askubuntu.com/questions/428698/are-there-alternative-repositories-to-ports-ubuntu-com-for-arm you can try the bash script on that post
[17:40] <Dr-007> ogra, be back later. testing it out
[18:02] <Dr-007> update-grub didnt make a difference
[18:04] <ogra> Dr-007, nd the UUID is the filesystem UUID (like i.e. shown by the blkid command), not a GPT UUID ?
[18:04] <ogra> *and
[18:04] <Dr-007> yes. but i gave you a paste earlier
[18:04] <Dr-007> in the upper part it is right
[18:05] <Dr-007> and in the down part where it references the initfs stuff the UUID is false
[18:05] <Dr-007> (wrong)
[18:05] <Dr-007> so im baffled by that
[18:06] <Dr-007> it might be because ive got an exact clone of ubuntu running on partition sda5 and sda8
[18:06] <Dr-007> but why would the upper part be correct
[18:07] <Dr-007> (its not initrd its vmlinuz thats referencing the wrong uuid)
[18:08] <Dr-007> brb
[18:12] <Dr-007> ok, so i manually editted the vmlinuz uuid that was wrong and now it boots rightfully
[18:13] <Dr-007> i have this in my script:   chroot "/mnt/targetfs" /bin/bash -c "sudo update-initramfs -c -k $(uname -r) && exit"
[18:13] <Dr-007> and: chroot "$1" /bin/bash -c "sudo update-grub && exit"
[18:14] <Dr-007> to update initramfs and grub. but how do i update the vmlinuz uuid reference in grub thats wrong?
[18:14] <Dr-007> is there a update-vmlinuz?
[18:50] <Joel> ubuntu 20, is it possible to not combine favorites and the running processes in one icon? Kind of like windows used to have quick launch bar, and an actual task list in the bar? In fact, I would love a task bar type behavior, where I can see multiple open chrome windows for ex.
[18:50] <Joel> (in the dock)
[18:54] <ravage> Joel: maybe kubuntu is a good choice for you. test the live iso
[18:59] <leftyfb> Joel: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/
[19:01] <leftyfb> oh, NOT combine them
[19:04] <Joel> leftyfb will look at it
[19:04] <Joel> thanks!
[19:08] <chimerasys> anybody aware of current issue with gsd-power blanking the screen after 30 seconds regardless of settings? (impish)
[19:11] <t2> hello folks
[19:11] <t2> I'm trying to install CTParental, but it only has .deb packages for ubuntu 20.04 and 21.10
[19:11] <t2> and I have 21.04
[19:12] <ravage> !eol | t2
[19:12] <t2> do u think it's worth trying to install the 21.10 package? what's the worst that could happen
[19:12] <t2> thanks ravage, I had no idea it was eol already. will upgrade :)
[19:32] <Rusty_Almighty> @ravage, I've done that already and even made certain modifications to the script. My question is similar but distictly different. My question, again, is if there is a repo which has both amd64 and arm64?
[19:33] <Rusty_Almighty> I ask because my initial research tells me that there is not.
[19:35] <sarnold> Rusty_Almighty: there is not; there's ports.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com and while they're two views of one 'internal' archive that has them both, there's nothing accessible that has them both. (even internally, that single source is pretty heavily firewalled)
[19:39] <Bashing-om> Rusty_Almighty: sarnold: https://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?
[19:40] <sarnold> Bashing-om: tjat
[19:40] <sarnold> sigh
[19:40] <sarnold> Bashing-om: that's just a web frontend of the metadata
[19:40] <sarnold> Bashing-om: you couldn't rsync from it to get a local archive mirror
[19:41] <Rusty_Almighty> @sarnold: Interesting. My next question is if there is any imposition to making a single repo that has all of the architectures in it?
[19:41] <Rusty_Almighty> I'm curious if I can just clone the packages from one and then clone the packages from another right on top of it.
[19:42] <oerheks> you can host your mirror yourself.
[19:43] <sarnold> Rusty_Almighty: I've thought about doing that myself, but I'd worry about getting an inconsistent view of the packages -- eg if you update in the middle of a mirror sync, you might get the amd64 packages updated and it might be another four hours before you re-sync and finally get the arm64 packages -- or the other way around
[19:45] <sarnold> Rusty_Almighty: you'd definitely need to fiddle with the rsync commands a bit -- maybe instead of two-stage sync, go with a six-stage sync: first stage amd64, first stage arm64, second stage amd64 (but skip deletes), second stage arm64 (but skip deletes), new third stage for amd64 (include deletes), new third stage for arm64 (include deletes) -- and it might be *impossible* to do the deletes, maybe that
[19:45] <sarnold> would just wreck your mirror
[19:46] <Rusty_Almighty> @oerheks, That's what I'm going but as someone who does too much embedded work.. I need both ARM and AMD64
[19:46] <Rusty_Almighty> doing* :)
[22:02] <eric> hi
[22:11] <eblieb> So I am having this issue on my ubuntu install where I installed Cinamon desktop but when i use cinamon randomly when i am doing stuff or browsing the web the screen will flicker black and then come back and lock itself
[22:12] <eblieb> It was doing it on KDE also.. but using normal ubuntu it doesn't have the issue
[22:12] <eblieb> on 20.040.3 LTS
[22:57] <z1trus> Hello there. Could anyone give me a link to ubuntu kernel patches? I mean does ubuntu have something like in the debian: https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/linux/tree/master/debian/patches ?
[22:57] <z1trus> I have Dell Latitude laptop and with ubuntu it works flawlessly. But if I install vanilla kernel, my NVME is overheat even in idle. More over, powertop show me, that CPU (package) reach only PC2, but with ubuntu kernel it reachs PC10.
[22:57] <z1trus> As a result with ubuntu kernel my laptop absolutly cold and battery lasts a much more. So I need to find those special ubuntu patches. How can I find out it?
[22:59] <leftyfb> z1trus: I don't understand what the issue is then. Run ubuntu and you'll be fine
[23:00] <oerheks> my guess is https://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/
[23:00] <sarnold> z1trus: https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/impish  -- replace 'impish' with 'jammy' or 'focal' or whatever you want
[23:11] <z1trus> Thanks for the links. But it is commints, as I see. So besides special patches, whose migrate from kernel to kernel, those commints are about regular developing process. And I don't know, how separate them. I'm looking for some patchset, for example named "Make Latitude great again". Which I can take, patch vanilla kernel and compile best kernel
[23:11] <z1trus> for my laptop.
[23:12] <leftyfb> z1trus: maybe file a bug with your linux distribution to get them to do this research and patching for you and all of their other users?
[23:13] <z1trus> leftyfb: For personal reason, I need to use rpm based distros. But ubuntu does really usefull job, and I would like to bite some piece from that cake :)
[23:14] <leftyfb> z1trus: maybe file a bug with your linux distribution to get them to do this research and patching for you and all of their other users?
[23:14] <z1trus> leftyfb  You know... I will be told: go and use ubuntu then :)
[23:15] <leftyfb> z1trus: I don't think it makes sense for us to help you find out what your non-ubuntu distribution is doing wrong, and from what you are saying, has no interest in supporting it's users
[23:16] <sarnold> z1trus: aye, the kernel team does rather structure their work for their ease of maintaining it, not necessarily for other people to consume it piecemeal. you might have to do all the heavy lifting yourself
[23:20] <z1trus> leftyfb I respect you opinoin, but in this channel is over 1000 people and I hope not all of them share your minds. Linux community should union, not sitting in own korners and thrown stones in each others.
[23:22] <z1trus> sarnold: I agree with you. But if I don't know what  I must search, there's no chance I find out it.
[23:24] <rob0> Note that it might not be the kernel itself; it could also be video drivers, or even something unrelated.
[23:25] <sarnold> thermald perhaps? there's a lot of pieces..
[23:25] <z1trus> rob0 But why if I replace stock kernel to vanilla one from ubuntu repo I get the same behaviour as in every other distros I tried?
[23:26] <oerheks> do we have a vanilla kernel in our repos?
[23:26] <sarnold> there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds#Upstream_kernel_details
[23:27] <sarnold> these are meant for debugging
[23:27] <rob0> so the Ubuntu kernel fixes your problem?  Is there, then, a problem?  Why not run that distro on the Ubuntu kernel?
[23:28] <oerheks> rob0, indeed there is no problem.
[23:33] <z1trus> rob0: I've prefer not to build FrankenDebian in rpm-based incarnation :) And that's reason, why I try to find those patchset for dell laptop.
[23:33] <z1trus> sarnold: thanks for idea. I'll try to dig it
[23:34] <rob0> well, it's not such a big deal; all you need to do is protect the kernel and modules packages from any automatic upgrades (which should be done anyway IMO)
[23:34] <rob0> but sure, nothing wrong with digging into the source package and see what goes in
[23:35] <z1trus> rob0: I think, it will be my Plan B.
[23:38] <wez> z1trus: You mean FrankenDebiansMonster right? :)
[23:44] <z1trus> wez: Yep :)  There is at least one distro, which has APT-RPM package manager. And it's not misstype. Those guys really use port of Debian's APT for RPM packages.
[23:44] <wez> :O
[23:47] <sarnold> yeah, I used yellowdog linux on an ibook g3 way back in the day
[23:47] <sarnold> they used apt to drive rpm
[23:47] <sarnold> (after giving up on yellowdog update manager... go figure)
[23:47] <sarnold> it worked better than you think, but it wasn't great :)
[23:53] <oerheks> maybe snaps give a solution; https://snapcraft.io/dell-bios-fan-control