[00:48] <michaelrose> how many services enabled by default in a default ubuntu install. Specifically what is the result of systemctl list-unit-files –state=enabled|wc -l if someone doesn't mind
[00:49] <oerheks> sorry, i have no default install.
[00:54] <bruh> hey
[00:55] <michaelrose> assuming you know how many things you disabled got a ballpark?
[00:56] <michaelrose> like you have n and you think you disabled 3 so you have n-3 plus or minus 2
[00:56] <Bashing-om> michaelrose: If it is of any help - minimalistic install >> 3 .
[00:57] <frost> hey
[00:58] <tomreyn> frost: hi. you said so before, got an ubuntu support question?
[00:58] <frost> not really, thanks though
[00:59] <frost> is this a place for that or something?
[00:59] <oerheks> time to read the topic
[01:00] <frost> uh huh?
[01:31] <NetEcho> Hey folks I'm trying to set up Ubuntu but at the network config size it's not allowing me to set the subnet as 255.255.255.0/24 with an ip of 192.168.1.250, not sure what I'm doing wrong here
[01:31] <sarnold> what exact strings are you putting into which exact boxes?
[01:32] <NetEcho> sarnold: https://i.imgur.com/RaT0R6Z.png
[01:34] <JoeBk> you have the mask instead of subnet.
[01:34] <NetEcho> what would be the subnet?
[01:35] <JoeBk> 192.168.1.0
[01:36] <NetEcho> thanks! doing some testing in a VM so when my nuc arrives I can migrate everything over to ubuntu server
[01:36] <sarnold> NetEcho: sweet :) exactly as JoeBk said
[01:37] <sarnold> NetEcho: woooo new toy new toy
[01:37] <NetEcho> yea replacing my raspberry pi and nas as my media server setup
[01:43] <v9fk1yn3nu> !emacs
[01:45] <oerheks> 27 and edge 28 https://snapcraft.io/emacs
[02:08] <Tripknotix> so i added ubuntu to virtual box yesterday, and the last step it asked me to upgrade , so i started the upgrade and went home, now today, it stays at a black screen until it finally says "oops something went wrong, log out"
[02:08] <Tripknotix> everything was working yesterday before i did the upgrade
[02:09] <Tripknotix> so i just create a new ubuntu install?
[02:09] <Tripknotix> should i^
[02:10] <tomreyn> i'm not familiar with the "oops something went wrong, log out" error message, is this verbatim?
[02:11] <Tripknotix> yeah =/
[02:11] <tomreyn> i would guess that the system ran out of disk space or ram. have you tried to just reboot it?
[02:11] <Tripknotix> its fine, ill just recreate the vm and not do the update
[02:11] <Tripknotix> i did
[02:11] <Tripknotix> and it doesnt appear to be having either of those issues, but its possible
[02:12] <tomreyn> so what happens when you reboot?
[02:12] <Tripknotix> my computer was turned off when i came into work tho.... and my chrome just asked me to restore tabs
[02:12] <Tripknotix> same thing, stays black forever
[02:12] <Tripknotix> till it gives the error
[02:13] <Tripknotix> its ok im recreating a new one
[02:13] <tomreyn> well, you can just reinstall, but most likely you'll just run into the same situation again
[02:14] <tomreyn> there are 0 hits on a web search for "oops something went wrong, log out", so i doubt this is the exact error message
[02:14] <Tripknotix> i made this one 20gb isntead of 10gb
[02:14] <oerheks> did you setup your virtualbox vm before starting ubuntu, videomemory and such?
[02:17] <Tripknotix> yes, im doing it with 20gb virtual max disk space this time
[02:31] <Tripknotix> restarted my host pc
[02:32] <Tripknotix> hopefully creating a fixed disk, fixes the issue
[02:41] <Tripknotix> hmm according to google its likely the default video ram of 16mb needing to be 64mb
[02:41] <Tripknotix> apparently newer version of virtual box fixes this
[02:48] <oerheks> stop the vm, go into settings ?
[02:53] <Tripknotix> jesus christ it took 10 minutes for the black screen to turn white...
[02:53] <Tripknotix> the settings taht worked was 64mb vram, and setting 2 monitors
[02:53] <Tripknotix> still took 10mins tho
[02:53] <Tripknotix> i just closed it now so i can change to vboxsvga
[02:53] <Tripknotix> we'll see if it takes 10minutes again
[02:58] <Tripknotix> wow... the vm made my monitors trip out
[02:58] <Tripknotix> my monitor said the resolution was incompatible
[03:02] <ker97> hi
[03:02] <ker97> i'm having a few problems with apt-get. i'm trying to install a driver using a local deb
[03:03] <ker97> when i run apt-cache policy the repo isn't there. at one point, i manually deleted the line containing the package so i'm not sure if that is causing the issue
[03:03] <ker97> does anyone know how to reinstate the repo?
[03:03] <ker97> these are the instructions i've been using: https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-11.0-download-archive?target_os=Linux&target_arch=x86_64&target_distro=Ubuntu&target_version=2004&target_type=deblocal
[03:03] <ker97> when i run apt-get install cuda it says it's unable to locate the package
[03:03] <ker97> so i'm guessing it's my apt-cache that is not being updated
[03:04] <oerheks> what guide do you follow? and ubuntu version?
[03:05] <ker97> i'm on 20.04
[03:05] <ker97> i'm just following 7 lines here: https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-11.0-download-archive?target_os=Linux&target_arch=x86_64&target_distro=Ubuntu&target_version=2004&target_type=deblocal
[03:05] <ker97> but at one point i manually modified the cache list
[03:05] <ker97> now i can't seem to get the local deb back on the list
[03:06] <ker97> even if i run dpkg -i <local.deb>, apt-cache policy doesn't show the local deb
[03:08] <oerheks> one better uses a howto like https://linuxhint.com/install-cuda-ubuntu/
[03:08] <oerheks> there are a lot of steps involved to add the repo
[03:08] <oerheks> and we are at 11.6 now, i guess
[03:09] <ker97> oerheks, i was trying install an older version like 10.1 or 11.0
[03:10] <v9fk1yn3nu> !code
[03:11] <tomreyn> !msgthebot | v9fk1yn3nu
[03:11] <oerheks> ker97,  that is beyond the scope of this channel.
[03:12] <oerheks> why not use the packages provided in our repos?
[03:12] <ker97> oerheks, but do you know how to reset apt-cache so that this local deb would show up again under apt-cache policy?
[03:18] <ker97> oerheks, ok i'll give the ones in the repo a try
[03:26] <Tripknotix> i switched from my 2ndary ssd to my primary ssd
[03:26] <Tripknotix> that 2ndary was a qvc samsung
[03:26] <Tripknotix> -_-'' i bet that had somethign to do with it
[03:30] <ker97> hi again
[03:36] <Tripknotix> the good news is, all the work im doing to get this dang solana contract built, isnt going to waste. https://decrypt.co/96462/solana-price-nft-trading-surges-opensea
[03:36] <Tripknotix> opensea is adding solana
[03:53] <Tripknotix> you guys
[03:53] <Tripknotix> i walked away from my comptuer for 5 minutes
[03:53] <Tripknotix> and now ubuntu is black screen again!
[04:33] <wr> if i have snap core20 will i need core also?
[04:34] <Tripknotix> i got a picture of the error guys, it just happened again
[04:34] <Tripknotix> https://imgur.com/a/cZ4JD2g
[04:34] <Tripknotix> black screen for 10mins bfore that error
[04:39] <Tripknotix> i ater i lcicked logout im at an ubuntu pruple screen
[04:39] <Tripknotix> its been there for 5mins now
[04:40] <WickedDekciw> Hola, hopefully somebody can lend a hand here. I've tried every Broadcom firmware under the sun and I'm still not getting wifi, despite seeing the ssid in the network manager
[04:40] <WickedDekciw> from a previously successful attempt after it randomly erased itself upon reboot
[04:42] <wr> WickedDekciw, what card have? and version ubuntu
[04:43] <WickedDekciw> wr, broadcom
[04:43] <WickedDekciw> and it's stupid
[04:44] <Tripknotix> ok whew, a restart of the vm put me back at my desktop
[04:44] <Tripknotix> ...
[04:45] <wr> WickedDekciw, sudo lshw -C network
[04:46] <WickedDekciw> wr, BCM43142
[04:46] <WickedDekciw> On 20.04.4
[04:51] <WickedDekciw> I've installed likely every fw that exists
[04:51] <WickedDekciw> and ones that don't
[04:54] <Tripknotix> is therea  way to increase my ubuntu vm's diskspace size?
[04:55] <wr> WickedDekciw, https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/firmware-b43-installer
[04:56] <wr> Tripknotix, y
[04:57] <Tripknotix> it says i only have 200mb left, while insatlling all of these packages
[04:57] <Tripknotix> it was 10gb hard drive size, i guess it wasnt enough
[04:57] <WickedDekciw> wr, I think I already have that installed
[04:57] <WickedDekciw> No dice unfortunately
[04:57] <WickedDekciw> and bmwcl-kernel-source
[04:57] <WickedDekciw> also nothing
[04:58] <wr> WickedDekciw, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1271818/bcm43142-wifi-adapter-doesnt-work-on-ubuntu-20-04
[05:04] <WickedDekciw> wr, what does it do with secure boot?!
[05:29] <Tripknotix> great my monitors getting fucked up again
[06:15] <makara1> recently on 20:04 when I open a terminal it open it on another workspace. Today its opening it on the same workspace, but it doesn't show it. It gives me a notification instead. What's happening?
[06:16] <raj> hii
[06:59] <epigramx> Was there a knows issue with fwupd? My 20.04.4 LTS stop responding a few hours after an update, and the last few messages of syslog were around "Starting Refresh fwupd metadata and update motd...".
[07:04] <gulzar> Hi. After so many years.  Can we do something like this https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1738474#p1738474 on Ubuntu to remove extra fonts, without affecting updates or break package. They are Noto Fonts installed with Plasma. I am on kbuntu-desktop.
[07:14] <Bashing-om> !info fwupd focal | epigramx
[07:15] <Bashing-om> epigramx: ^ there was a recent update to fwupd - what shows ' dpkg -l fwupd ' ?
[07:16] <epigramx> Yeah as I said, it happened a few hours after an update. 1.7.5-3~20.04.1 arm64
[07:17] <epigramx> It's unclear to me though if that's definitely the cause.
[07:18] <epigramx> It also has a lot of spam of "wpa_supplicant[]: wlan0: Failed to initiate sched scan" but that usually didn't cause a problem.
[07:18] <Bashing-om> epigramx: We can ask the kernel the status ' systemctl status fwupd ' .
[07:20] <epigramx> Yeah that appears to report it's running now (but it has been rebooted after it was not responding), and it shows the same errors the syslog had, "failed to load eventlog: Failed to open file "/sys/kernel/security/tpm0/binary_bios_measurements"" and "failed to add device
[07:21] <epigramx> /sys/devices/platform/emmc2bus/fe340000.emmc2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:aaaa/block/mmcblk0: failed get ffu_capable for (null)" and "failed to load /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/FACP: Failed to open file "/sys/firmware/acpi/tables/FACP": No such file or directory" and "failed to record HSI attributes: failed to get historical attr: json-glib version too old".
[07:21] <Bashing-om> !paste | epigramx
[07:22] <epigramx> can I paste anywhere doesen't need registration?
[07:23] <epigramx> https://pastebin.com/raw/FWeJxLzh
[07:24] <Bashing-om> epigramx: I like termbin.com . - systemctl status fwupd | nc termbin.com 9999 -
[07:26] <epigramx> https://termbin.com/zjf3
[07:26] <epigramx> doesn't work in the dash in the end of the termbin line btw
[07:29] <Bashing-om> epigramx: Sorry that dash was kust to delimit the end of the command here in the channel - I do not percieve an issue in your fwupd. Similar to my result: https://termbin.com/f7pb .
[07:33] <epigramx> then I wonder why it would stop responding, the syslog abruptly stops. Then the first message of the syslog is "booting linux" when I power-rebooted it.
[07:36] <epigramx> Also I wonder how to reduce the messages, like "wpa_supplicant[522]: message repeated 473 times: [ wlan0: Failed to initiate sched scan]", which appear to occur because the wlan of netplan is not in range (yet (but that's normal (it's only a backup)).
[07:36] <Bashing-om> epigramx: The kerenl indicates it is running , Might see what is in the journal ' journalctl -b |grep fwupd ' .
[07:38] <epigramx> I had no physical access to the server other than the network, and since I had an lan + wlan redundancy for that, I suspect the OS just hang (I suspect hardware failure too).
[07:39] <Bashing-om> epigramx: Ouch - anyway I must go - others here maybe of more value than I :D
[07:40] <epigramx> Though it's very suspicious that that fwupd update was recent and it happened around that logging. Firmware fiddling can be dangerous I guess. The wlan error messages are probably harmless.
[07:47] <tomreyn> epigramx: does    dmesg | grep -i error   return anything?
[07:58] <epigramx> tomreyn bcm2708_fb: probe of soc:fb failed with error -2
[08:01] <tomreyn> epigramx: okay, that's the hdmi framebuffer device - unrelated. which kernel is running? cat /proc/version
[08:02] <epigramx> Linux version 5.4.0-1056-raspi (buildd@bos02-arm64-008) (gcc version 9.4.0 (Ubuntu 9.4.0-1ubuntu1~20.04)) #63-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT
[08:03] <tomreyn> okay, that's the latest for raspi
[08:05] <tomreyn> fwiw, "Starting Refresh fwupd metadata and update motd..." is the equivalent to "apt update" for fwupd - it only updates the information on what's available. if a firmware update was applied, this should have been logged seperately.
[08:05] <mgedmin> I don't think fwupd even has a mode for updating firmware unattendely
[08:05] <tomreyn> so i guess it looks like it just went to sleep, and we don't know why.
[08:05] <mgedmin> most firmware updates require a reboot
[08:06] <epigramx> hardeware failure would explain it I guess, but anything that touches firmware makes me suspicious, I rarely trust fiddling low level to hardware and keeping stability.
[09:19] <pikapika> Will some apps only be available as snaps but not in apt, which used to be on apt before?
[09:22] <mgedmin> yes
[09:22] <mgedmin> for 22.04 lts I believe firefox is the only such app
[09:23] <mgedmin> for older ubuntu releases other apps were migrated from apt to snap packages: lxd, ubuntu store, chromium
[09:24] <pikapika> What is the reason for this?
[09:24] <pikapika> I don't like the idea of carrying a full linux container for each app
[09:24] <pikapika> So much disk space used, and it also becomes hard to edit configs too
[09:27] <pikapika> Are mint or debian doing the same things
[09:27] <mgedmin> reduced maintenance work is the main reason: people need to build a firefox snap once, instead of for every supported ubuntu version (18.04 lts, 20.04 lts, 21.10, 22.04 lts)
[09:27] <mgedmin> debian isn't using snaps
[09:27] <mgedmin> I think the mint people are virulently against snaps
[09:27] <FlowerPowerFury> hi all, i search help for an ubuntu install party (from france) ...
[09:28] <mgedmin> as a user I'm somewhat ambivalent: snaps have both advantages (newer software sooner) and disadvantages (slower initial startup, excessive sandbox restrictions)
[09:28] <pikapika> I just don't want a small vm for each app. Snaps are fine for apps I use rarely, and existing as an option. But I don't like apt apps being turned into snaps.
[09:28] <xu-irc92w> #ubuntu-fr
[09:29] <pikapika> Generally snaps are a last resort for me, not a first choice
[09:29] <mgedmin> (containers are not VMs)
[09:29] <FlowerPowerFury> ok sorry
[09:29] <pikapika> I don't know the exact technology used but its heavy enough it seems to at least contain a big part of a linux userspace within itself, and slow to start, hard to configure, autoupdation bs etc to boot
[09:30] <ravage> FlowerPowerFury: you can also try #ubuntu-discuss but im not sure if there is a list of partys :D
[09:35] <pikapika> All I am saying is snaps are a useful technology, being forced to use a snap is not nice
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> not a discussion for here pikapika
[09:36] <fearnothing> buenos dias folks
[09:37] <fearnothing> I'm trying to extend my / volume for an ESXi VM but I'm not sure how to apply what I'm reading to the situation on my VM, which is slightly different
[09:38] <fearnothing> I'm using the following guide: https://www.golinuxcloud.com/extend-resize-primary-partition-non-lvm-linux/
[09:38] <iambroken> how can i make my localhost http server public?
[09:38] <mrkubax10> iambroken: port forwarding
[09:38] <mrkubax10> you need to setup that on router
[09:38] <iambroken> i tried but not wroked
[09:39] <mrkubax10> what did you do?
[09:39] <mgedmin> fearnothing: can you pastebin the output of lsblk so we can see what the situation looks like inside the VM?
[09:39] <pikapika> I need to study building firefox myself
[09:40] <mgedmin> pikapika: I hear you can download official linux builds as tarballs from mozilla.org and install them into your home directory; and apparently they then autoupdate
[09:41] <fearnothing> mgedmin: https://bpa.st/4CMA
[09:41] <mgedmin> sounds safer and less hassle-ful than manual builds
[09:41] <pikapika> Well thats the thing
[09:41] <mgedmin> (I've built firefox before, it's not a fast process)
[09:41] <iambroken> on router admin page i forwarded port 8000 to my local ip address
[09:41] <pikapika> I don't want autoupdates
[09:41] <pikapika> Especially not on firefox these days
[09:41] <mrkubax10> iambroken: HTTP uses 80 or 8080
[09:42] <mgedmin> fearnothing: what's /dev/sda5, swap?
[09:42] <fearnothing> mgedmin - I think so, but how do I tell?
[09:42] <fearnothing> oh wait
[09:42] <fearnothing> yes it is
[09:43] <fearnothing> it's /dev/sda2 that confused me
[09:43] <mrkubax10> iambroken: otherwise you will have to specify port after : when connecting to server
[09:43] <mgedmin> fearnothing: it's probably the extended partition; do an sfdisk -l /dev/sda to see
[09:43] <fearnothing> it does say extended, but what's the purpose of that?
[09:44] <mgedmin> MBR partition scheme allows for 4 primary partitions; if you want more, you have to declare one of the four to be an "extended" partition, which you can then split into logical partitions numbered 5-whatever
[09:44] <mgedmin> lsblk shows the extended partition in a slightly weird way as being 1 KB big
[09:45] <mgedmin> sfdisk will show its true size, which will be 1022M or something
[09:45] <mgedmin> since all logical partitions must fit inside it
[09:45] <fearnothing> ahh so it's just a container for the swap partition at this point? gotcha
[09:45] <mgedmin> yes
[09:46] <fearnothing> I remember enough of my forensics degree to understand primary/extended, I just didn't know enough of linux behaviour to understand why :)
[09:46] <mgedmin> assuming the partitions are laid out in natural order, to resize /dev/sda1 you'll have to swapoff /dev/sda5, then remove sda5 and sda2, increase the size sda1, then re-create /dev/sda5
[09:47] <mgedmin> or you could create the swap as /dev/sda2, there's no real reason to have extended and logical partitions
[09:47] <mgedmin> unless you plan to have more than 4 partitions
[09:47] <fearnothing> ok, I think that's what the guide was missing, it didn't mention the extended partition at all, I guess they were just using primary partitions only
[09:47] <mgedmin> anyway, your layout matches the https://www.golinuxcloud.com/extend-resize-primary-partition-non-lvm-linux/ guide pretty well as far as I can see?
[09:48] <mgedmin> well, in the sense that there's a swap partition following root that needs to be removed temporarily to allow resizing
[09:48] <ogra> pikapika, snaps are genreally a lot smaller than debs ... on 22.04 you will also not get auto-updates of an app while it is running (just a notification that an update is pending) ...
[09:48] <fearnothing> yes, in that sense it's the same
[09:49] <fearnothing> and I definitely won't need lots of partitions on this disk - I have another virtual disk for that stuff as you can see :) (/dev/sdb)
[09:50] <ogra> pikapika, the firefox snap is 162MB on disk ... the deb is 230 ... also, snaps are generally updating through binary deltas so the downloaded data is a lot less than that of a deb
[09:51] <ogra> pikapika, and nobody "forces you" to use snaps ... just use the deb from FF upstream if you feel like
[09:51] <ogra> it is just that mozilla asked canonical to switch to the snap that mozilla is providing ... we just follow their request here
[09:52] <ogra> (not a canonical decision at all)
[09:56] <pikapika> ogra, oh I see
[09:56] <pikapika> So its firefox to blame here then
[09:56] <ogra> well, not sure abut "blame" but yeah ... it was their request
[09:57] <pikapika> My point was though, I just don't want updates in ff at all unless I have prepared myself for them. Which means waiting for workarounds to be found for the new UIs and so on. Anyways, I didn't know they packaged a deb too. God knows how long that will survive.
[09:57] <ogra> and indeed it helps canonical to free resources (the FF db today needs a full time developer assigned for maintenance to build and test on 3 releases and 5 arches for each single release)
[09:58] <ogra> s/db/deb/
[09:58] <ogra> pikapika, but the deb updates itself in background too ... since 2016 or so
[09:58] <pikapika> I remember I had personally frozen the browser
[09:58] <pikapika> and only manually unfreeze it when I update it
[09:59] <RikMills> firefox don't package a deb as far as I know
[09:59] <pikapika> Oh you mean the deb provided by firefox itself
[09:59] <pikapika> Well that sucks
[09:59] <pikapika> Manual builds it is then
[09:59] <mgedmin> when firefox deb updates in the background, firefox pops up an info bar asking for a restart
[09:59] <ogra> yep
[09:59] <mgedmin> when chromium deb updated in the background, initially there was no notification, plus the profile directory got cloned and then the wrong copy kept being updated
[09:59] <ogra> same goes for the snap (at least in 22.04 or if you enable it manually in the former releases)+
[10:00] <mgedmin> so when you finally restarted chromium your browsing history and open tabs got rewound back in time
[10:00] <ogra> yeah
[10:00] <mgedmin> I eagerly look forward to 22.04 lts to see whether those issues have been fixed
[10:00] <mgedmin> ah, wait, you mentioned that the (no longer?) experimental snap app refresh awareness flag is going to be enabled by default
[10:00] <RikMills> pikapika: firefox provide a tar'd binary release on their ftp, not a deb
[10:01] <ogra> well, they have been fixed on a snap level, you can use all snap features even on older releases (snaps are a rolling release, so not bound to something like "22.04")
[10:01] <pikapika> RikMills, does that version auto-update?
[10:01] <RikMills> pikapika: yes, as long as where you put it is user writeable
[10:02] <ogra> mgedmin, sudo snap set core experimental.refresh-app-awareness=true
[10:02] <ogra> mgedmin, that will work everywhere .... and stop snaps being updated while they are runing
[10:03] <RikMills> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/98.0.2/linux-x86_64/
[10:04] <mgedmin> yes, it's very nice, I've had it enabled for a while now
[10:04] <mgedmin> I was curious about it finally becoming non-experimental and enabled by default
[10:05] <mgedmin> (also I kind of wish the notification about an update being available had a button to close the app and do the update now please)
[10:10] <ogra> mgedmin, with the 22.04 release it will become non-experimental and default ...
[10:10] <ogra> and yeah, an "update now!" button is on the roadmap AFAIK
[10:14] <fearnothing> ok, have resized according to that guide... moment of truth incoming as I reboot!
[10:14] <mgedmin> why even reboot after something like that?
[10:14] <fearnothing> to be sure it boots :P
[10:15] <mgedmin> ah, a good reason then ;)
[10:16] <fearnothing> yay, all working
[10:16] <ogra> crazy !
[10:16] <mrkubax10> nice
[10:16] <fearnothing> and now I have 16GB free space instead of 1 GB :P
[10:17] <mgedmin> I once used LVM inside the VMs for "flexibility", so growing the VM image involved quite a few additional steps...
[10:17] <fearnothing> thank you very much for your help mgedmin
[10:18] <fearnothing> it's not a particularly critical device, just running my home Plex Media Server
[10:18] <fearnothing> but rebuilding from scratch would have been a headache
[10:19] <mgedmin> also, it's a fun exercise
[11:56] <j`ey> is there an rpi4 specific ubuntu irc channel?
[11:56] <j`ey> if not, trying to work out how to get eth0 up and running. wlan0 is running, plugged in a cable, but I guess there may be a systemd unit to start
[11:58] <mrkubax10> j`ey: what does "ip link" show?
[11:59] <j`ey> mrkubax10: 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether dc:a6:32:ae:7f:30 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[11:59] <Chunkyz> Ubuntu server or desktop?
[12:00] <j`ey> server iirc, it's headless
[12:00] <j`ey> it's using netplan-wpa-wlan0.service for wifi
[12:00] <Chunkyz> server should work out of the box with an ethernet plugged in
[12:00] <j`ey> even if it's plugged in after it booted?
[12:01] <Chunkyz> no idea, sorry
[12:01] <mrkubax10> maybe try restarting with cable plugged in
[12:01] <j`ey> I can just try a reboot, just means closing everything I have open, wanted to avoid that if I could
[12:01] <ogra> j`ey, check the network config in /etc/netplan ...
[12:02] <ogra> there should be an entry for eth0
[12:02] <j`ey> oh wait, ip addr is showing an address for eth0 now..
[12:02] <ogra> if not, add one following the docs on netplan.io
[12:02] <ogra> you can then run "netply try" to have the new config tested ... and "netplan apply" to fully apply it afterwards
[12:02] <ogra> *netplan try
[12:40] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:56] <wez> Hi BluesKaj!
[12:57] <BluesKaj> hi again wez
[13:01] <wez> BluesKaj: Again? I am just respdonding to your hi's
[13:02] <BluesKaj> hehe
[13:03] <wez> BluesKaj: but seriously, what you up to?  What's the latest?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> wez, not much, still testing Kubuntu 22.04
[13:05] <wez> Ah, KDE
[13:06] <wez> I have tried KDE over the last 22 years or so, I still form the same conclusion
[13:06] <wez> Use something else
[13:06] <wez> gnome, even unity
[13:07] <BluesKaj> yeah, been running kde since '06
[13:07] <wez> actually, terminal I rate above all
[13:07] <wez> 1998 here
[13:07] <mgedmin> I once liked kdm
[13:08] <wez> mgedmin: Wash your fingers!
[13:08] <wez> I was going to say mouth, but you typed that out, you didn't speak it
[13:49] <BluesKaj> kde/plasma has been accused of trying to "look like windows", but so what, it's still linux and much more flexible than the other DEs
[13:59] <MrMobius> if there isnt an installation for a package for Ubuntu 21, can I just install the deb for Ubuntu 20 and hope for the best or is this likely to lead to disaster?
[14:40] <nova> sudo apt update # continually waiting for archive.ubuntu.com .. ping archive.ubuntu.com # name resolution failure .. that's in fresh WSL install. The site isn't down though. Maybe I should just reinstall WSL again?
[14:41] <nova> maybe a driver showed up under Keyboards and I accidentally removed the wrong driver and WSL was somehow using it. I will reinstall
[14:42] <ogra> nova, try in ##windows-wsl
[14:42] <nova> ps windows sux - in case anyone forgot
[14:42] <nova> oo. okay; if it doesn't work, I'll try
[14:44] <samsepi0l> hey?
[14:44] <samsepi0l> how are you?
[14:45] <samsepi0l> hey
[14:51] <jhutchins> samsepi0l: We eagerly await your question regarding problems with the current Ubuntu releases.  Otherwise, there are chat channels.
[14:52] <alkisg> How do 3d printers work in Ubuntu? If I already have an STL file (e.g. via blockscad3d.com), how do I send it to a 3d printer? I'll borrow one for a few days, but I've no idea if they connect via USB or Ethernet, if they need specific drivers or software...
[14:53] <ogra> alkisg, start with snap install cura-slicer ...
[14:54] <alkisg> ogra thanks, so I run cura, open the stl, and that communicates with the printer using usb? Do I need any drivers?
[14:54] <ogra> alkisg, 3D printers typically come with an SD card slot and default to using that. so the easiest is to simply open your STL in cura, slice it, save it to an SD and plug that into the printer
[14:54] <alkisg> Ah
[14:54] <alkisg> Got it, thank you ogra :)
[14:54] <ogra> you *can* set up a USB cable as well ... then it shows up as USB-serial device
[14:55] <ogra> but if it is only temporary for a borrowed printer, i'd not bother with that and go the SD route
[14:55] <llutz> or just use sd-card/usb-thumbdrive (depending on model) as last resort
[14:55] <ogra> alkisg, oh, and if the snap bothers you, i think there are also cura appimages somewhere out in the wild
[14:56] <alkisg> ogra, I think there's a .deb in their site
[14:56] <ogra> might be ... i use the snap since years 🙂
[14:56] <ogra> (but i used to use the appimage once which is why i remember it)
[14:56] <leftyfb> alkisg: I use prusaslicer(snap) on ubuntu which slices the stl's and then I just send it over to octprint connected to my printer. Been doing this for a few years now
[14:57] <ogra> there is also a snap of prusa-slicer in case you prefer its UI
[14:57] <ogra> hah, leftyfb beats me 😄
[14:58] <alkisg> leftyfb: so I'd install octoprint in a raspberry, and use it as an ...ethernet-to-usb web ui?
[14:58] <ogra> leftyfb, i think a full octoprint setup is a bit much for some temporary borrowed printer 🙂
[14:58] <ogra> yeah, thats what you'd do
[14:58] <leftyfb> alkisg: yes
[14:58] <alkisg> I can setup octoprint for the school that owns the printer though
[14:58] <leftyfb> alkisg: /join #octoprint
[14:58] <leftyfb> though it's pretty easy to get going
[14:58] <ogra> it is definitely more convenient
[14:58] <alkisg> Got it, thank you guys, see that's where IRC really shines compared to google :D
[14:58] <ogra> but also some effort to set up
[15:01] <samsepi0l> como estan?
[15:02] <samsepi0l> How are you?
[15:02] <leftyfb> !es | samsepi0l
[15:39] <zen_coder> how can I install gcov, to match my g++ 9.4?
[15:40] <mrkubax10> maybe try apt install gcov=9.4
[15:41] <mrkubax10> nvm about that
[15:55] <transhumanist> so I have impish, what is the animal associated with impish?
[15:55] <enigma9o7[m]> indri
[15:56] <transhumanist> thank you very much, seems the ubuntu website that lists these things isnt up to date or I am looking in the wrong place
[15:57] <ravage> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[15:57] <transhumanist> thaks
[15:57] <transhumanist> thanks*
[16:20] <bkeys> INSTALL SNAP
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> can we help you bkeys
[16:24] <rob0> that command won't work in IRC :)
[16:42] <jhutchins> Whether it works elsewhere is debatable.
[16:53] <mrkubax10> lol
[17:31] <richd> Hi, after updating a server running Xen to Ubuntu 20.04.4, it won't boot the newly install 5.13.0-39-generic, with some error about the kernel not being an ELF file.  It boots well with the previous 5.4 kernel.  Is there a way to fix this?
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> richd: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys might recall an existing bug on that
[17:32] <richd> ok, thanks...
[18:21] <jhutchins> richd: Turn off secure boot.
[18:22] <jhutchins> "Updating" to a different distro sounds like a Very Bad Idea.
[18:58] <dubiousness> Xen as in Xen HV I assume?
[19:00] <dubiousness> ignore, checked #ubuntu-server and am caught up
[19:24] <SnoopJ> I would like to install `nvidia-container-toolkit`, but I absolutely do not want Ubuntu managing my Nvidia drivers. Is it plausible that I can just block the driver packages it wants to drag in?
[19:26] <sarnold> SnoopJ: check out the 'equivs' package, it might help you make fake packages to satisfy dependencies
[19:29] <SnoopJ> sarnold, is there a particular document I should read to learn more about that? Perhaps the equivs-build manpage is my best bet?
[19:31] <sarnold> SnoopJ: /usr/share/doc/equivs/README.Debian has a bit of a tutorial that might be a better starting point
[19:32] <SnoopJ> Maybe I should just throw in the towel and put myself at the mercy of the driver packages. I haven't tried them since I was on 16.04 which was a nightmare, but mostly because I needed a newer CUDA..
[19:32] <SnoopJ> sarnold, cheers
[19:35] <samsepi0l> hey
[19:35] <samsepi0l> que tal
[19:35] <samsepi0l> hola
[19:35] <samsepi0l> holaaaa
[19:35] <c2test> hi
[19:35] <samsepi0l> hi
[19:36] <c2test> whats up?
[19:36] <samsepi0l> Nothin
[19:36] <samsepi0l> nothing
[19:36] <samsepi0l> and you
[19:36] <Chunkyz> !ot | samsepi0l
[19:37] <samsepi0l> oj
[19:37] <samsepi0l> join #th3g3ntl3man
[21:06] <funhouse> i have multiple files with these 2 extensions --> `csv.gz` and `csv.gz.ifa_count`, how would i delete the files only with `csv.gz`
[21:07] <wez> rm *.csv.gz
[21:07] <funhouse> wez, ok that wouldnt delete the csv.gz.ifa_count i guess?
[21:07] <wez> nope
[21:07] <sarnold> you can test globs like this with echo, try echo *.csv.gz  and if you like the output, use rm
[21:07] <wez> You can copy both into another directory and test it first if you like
[21:08] <rob0> * = glob wildcard, . = actual dot (in glob expressions)
[21:08] <wez> Thanks rob0!
[21:08] <wez> rob0: And what does ? do? :)
[21:08] <rob0> *csv.gz* would cover all files with that pattern
[21:09] <wez> rob0: Do you use [] and {} too?
[21:09] <rob0> ? in glob means a single character
[21:09] <wez> And what does it mean in regex? :)
[21:09]  * wez puts on his knowledge testing hat
[21:09] <rob0> me, not too often, but "man bash" has the information on globs
[21:09] <rob0> regex is way different :)
[21:09] <wez> :)
[21:09] <wez> man perl for that probably :)
[21:10] <wez> That is the one thing I gained from scripting in perl, regex
[21:10] <rob0> well, "man grep" or even "man regex"
[21:10] <rob0> pcre is another one
[21:10] <wez> That's not PCRE though
[21:10] <sarnold> perlre, actually, but it's best to look them up in whatever tool you're using, since different tools have different features
[21:10] <wez> yes,
[21:10] <wez> yeah, some support (?i), others don't
[21:11] <funhouse> wez and sarnold thank you
[21:12] <wez> <3
[21:14] <ewomer> How come you can't have libc++-10 and libc++-13(LLVM apt) on the same system?
[21:15] <sarnold> probably they both supply the same file and no effort has been put into setting up alternatives for that specific file, for whatever reason
[21:19] <oerheks> tons of howto's that are just a hack; best solution; one could create a vm for each gcc
[21:25] <wez> Lets all just VM!
[22:12] <jhutchins> Solaris here we come.
[22:25] <wildo> Is it still pain to use dual monitors(proper scaling) or things have changed?
[22:25] <wildo> Planning to use 21.04 LTS but afraid of scaling issues from the past.
[22:26] <oerheks> don't plan 21.04, as it is EOL.
[22:26] <oerheks> 20.04 or 21.10 are supported
[22:27] <wildo> sorry meant 20.04 LTS
[22:27] <WaV> I use my TV as a second monitor occasionally and there doesn't appear to be an issue - granted I may not be noticing what you're referring to.
[22:27] <wildo> Last I remeber having weird scaling issues with dual monitors. One was 1080 and other 4k
[22:28] <WaV> And I'm still using 18.04
[22:28] <Jeremy31> WaV: Ubuntu 18.04 is supported for another year
[22:28] <oerheks> or beta test 22.03 lts...
[22:28] <Jeremy31> 04
[22:28] <oerheks> oh dear, 1 april
[22:29] <WaV> Jeremy31: I know. I am planning for a migration to a newer version at some point. Need to get my hands on a backup drive first.
[23:27] <ash_worksi> are things like Ctrl+[KUWY] which perform various cuts (and pastes) on the terminal a bash thing or... a gnome-terminal thing?
[23:35] <sarnold> ash_worksi: those are bash/readline things
[23:36] <ash_worksi> sarnold: thanks