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[05:03] <yurtesen> I made a very trivial debdiff for bug #1964881 and having trouble finding a sponsor. Does anybody have suggestion on how to solve this dilemma?
[05:03] <ubottu> Bug 1964881 in tomcat9 (Ubuntu) "Logging/Log rotation does not work for catalina.out" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1964881
[05:40] <marcoagpinto> Olá!
[07:17] <ducasse> good morning
[08:59] <yurtesen> ducasse good morning
[18:01] <ruzer> hey
[18:01] <ruzer> I just replaced windows with ubuntu
[18:02] <ruzer> where can i find cool backgrouds for desktop
[18:02] <ruzer> backgrounds
[18:02] <leftyfb> ruzer: google
[18:03] <ruzer> lol
[18:03] <leftyfb> ruzer: pictures aren't OS specific 
[18:04] <ruzer> I think buying a pc installed windows is bad 
[18:05] <ruzer> they come with h/w optimiztion for windows only
[18:05] <ruzer> lesson- buy pc not the OS
[18:05] <leftyfb> ruzer: not usually. Also, to each their own. All OS's have their use cases
[18:06] <ruzer> H/w manuf are biased towards windoes
[18:07] <ruzer> most of the pc comes preinstalled with ms windows
[18:08] <oerheks> yeah, but some put mac osX on their machines :-D
[18:08] <ruzer> mac only apple does
[18:09] <leftyfb> ruzer: https://system76.com/ 
[18:09] <ruzer> the intel rst thing was annoying during ubuntu installation
[18:09] <ruzer> that's what I am saying
[18:09] <leftyfb> ruzer: https://frame.work/
[18:09] <leftyfb> ruzer: https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/overview/cp/linuxsystems
[18:10] <ruzer> mine asus
[18:10] <leftyfb> ruzer: https://ubuntu.com/certified
[18:11] <ruzer> leftyfb: I know there are systems for linux specifically but the share is very low in the market
[18:11] <leftyfb> ruzer: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/d/linux-laptops-desktops/
[18:11] <ruzer> ms windows dominates the desktop
[18:11] <leftyfb> ruzer: ok? 
[18:11] <ruzer> yeh boi
[18:12] <ruzer> i think my battery is draining fast as compared to ms windows
[18:12] <oerheks> i think windows abuses the desktop, win7 machines are perfect for linux
[18:12] <leftyfb> ruzer: that would be good to ask for help with in #ubuntu 
[18:12] <ruzer> Is it ok or it will settle with time
[18:12] <ruzer> okk leftyfb 
[18:13] <ruzer> leftyfb: so what we do here
[18:14] <leftyfb> ruzer: discuss, mainly around ubuntu. I personally don't see the point in complaining about other OS's. It's not very productive. 
[18:15] <oerheks> windows should support snaps.
[18:15] <ruzer> I am not comparing, I am just saying the facts leftyfb 
[18:16] <ruzer> Windows has monopoly on desktop, and it is bad
[18:17] <leftyfb> ruzer: what are your proposed solutions?
[18:19] <ruzer> no
[18:19] <leftyfb> no?
[18:19] <ruzer> yes
[18:19] <leftyfb> what's the point of the complaining if you don't want to work on solutions to the problem?
[18:19] <ruzer> who said I am complainig
[18:30] <ruzer> leftyfb: you were there too
[18:39] <ruzer> leftyfb: hi
[18:40] <ruzer> bye
[19:48] <leftyfb> sarnold: can we do something about this person? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/wBHZwbtk8d/
[19:53] <oerheks> kiddo has the time of his life :-D
[21:12] <goddard> wow wayland session feels so much smoother
[21:12] <goddard> and different scaling for monitors
[21:13] <oerheks> goddard, yes.
[21:13] <goddard> nice
[21:13] <goddard> im just doing simple things like scrolling in firefox and it is so buttery smooth
[21:14] <oerheks> on what gpu?
[21:14] <goddard> laptop intel/nvidia 3080
[21:14] <goddard> doing on-demand so i believe intel is running it
[21:14] <goddard> but i have an extra monitor not sure if it runs off the nvidia gpu
[21:16] <oerheks> systemsettings > details > about
[21:16] <goddard> mesa
[21:17] <oerheks> intel i guess
[21:17] <goddard> on demand really is nice
[21:17] <goddard> don't need to worry about nvidia strangeness but can still use it for games
[21:18] <goddard> i tried to game on intel xe 
[21:18] <goddard> it was okay but lots of games not supported
[21:36] <goddard> oerheks: what is your goto?
[21:37] <goddard> what hardware do you prefer for desktop?
[21:37] <goddard> do you game?
[21:37] <oerheks> i am building a new i7 right now, i stick to AMD for now. 
[21:37] <oerheks> nvidia support and wayland is a no go
[21:38] <oerheks> an ancient HD8770 is good enough for 2 monitors and youtube
[21:38] <oerheks> current ATI4550 :-D
[21:39] <goddard> wow that is pretty interesting 
[21:39] <goddard> ATI haven't used one of those in awhile
[21:40] <goddard> AMD is better for sure as long as you don't need CUDA for work or something
[21:40] <oerheks> jups
[21:40] <oerheks> no mining for me :-D
[21:40] <goddard> I've been mining for months
[21:40] <goddard> kind of annoying having the fans always running
[21:41] <goddard> feel like i am in a server room 
[21:42] <goddard> I really just wanted to do it so I could pay for my graphics cards to do ML tasks locally
[21:42] <goddard> Been messing with Mycroft and also various server software that uses it
[23:16] <sarnold> leftyfb: sheesh. I was hoping he'd mellow out a bit