[01:17] <FishBone000> Shift+PgUp/PgDn doesn't work on non-graphic tty, but works on terminal in graphic tty
[01:17] <FishBone000> any ideas?
[01:22] <sarnold> FishBone000: what do you mean by "non-graphic tty"?
[01:23] <rob0> maybe "Linux console," oops, typed too slow
[01:26] <sarnold> FishBone001: what do you mean by "non-graphic tty"?
[01:27] <FishBone000> sry lost connection
[01:27] <sarnold> rob0: perhaps; it's been ages since I've *used* the linux consoles thing but I remember shift+pgup/pgdn working okay there -- just that the scrollback buffer would be discarded when changing VTs, which really limited its utility :(
[01:28] <FishBone000> So if I'm correct you can change ttys by Ctrl+Alt+F1~12 right?
[01:28] <FishBone000> F2 is for graphic tty,
[01:28] <FishBone000> others are...CLI only
[01:29] <enigma9o7[m]> not all the way to F12
[01:29] <enigma9o7[m]> F7 is usually desktop
[01:29] <FishBone000> Shift+PgUp/PgDn works fine for me on graphic consoles, like the one you open with Ctrl+Alt+T
[01:29] <FishBone000> ohh, weird
[01:30] <FishBone000> Just found out that F1 is graphic login interface, F2 is graphic tty, F3~F6 is CLI ttys, F7~12 not working
[01:31] <FishBone000> at least for me
[01:31] <enigma9o7[m]> What is a graphic tty?
[01:31] <FishBone000> ehh...I'm not sure if it is "graphic tty
[01:32] <FishBone000> It's the desktop you was talking about
[01:33] <FishBone000> perhaps I should call it pts? (sry I'm not an experienced linux user)
[01:36] <sarnold> so, I had to actually *test* it, and sure enough, no shift+pgup/pgdn in vt1
[01:36] <sarnold> I wonder when that went away
[01:38] <enigma9o7[m]> linux 5.9
[01:39] <FishBone000> I thought it was only me
[01:41] <sophywwqwqq> hi
[01:42] <enigma9o7[m]> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.9-Drops-Soft-Scrollback
[01:45] <sarnold> enigma9o7[m]: aha, thanks :)
[02:04] <jhutchins> FishBone000: Sometimes F8-12 are used to display live log messages (F12 usually).
[02:05] <jhutchins> FishBone000: You can set them up however you want.  It's a little trickier to configure with systemd than with traditional systems, and people don't always honor 1-6 tty/7 GUI which used to be the standard.
[02:06] <jhutchins> You're actually running a different program when you run a terminal emulator in a GUI, and there are several to choose from.
[03:21] <Tripknotix> heya guys i wanted to let eveyrone know i figured out the wsl error
[03:21] <sarnold> Tripknotix: oh yeah? :)
[03:22] <Tripknotix> there were 2 ways i couldve discovered this, the first was to look at the log output file, for some reason though it did not show up when using windows command prompt to access WSL
[03:22] <Tripknotix> so , using wsl 1.0 (as this is what the tutorials were written in)
[03:22] <Tripknotix> i decided to try powershell
[03:23] <Tripknotix> i did all of the same commands, and it spelled it out for me, create the Xargo.toml and stick"" [target.bpfel-unknown-unknown.dependencies.std]
[03:23] <Tripknotix>   features = [] ""into it.
[03:23] <sarnold> YAY
[03:23] <sarnold> but
[03:23] <sarnold> WHY
[03:23] <oerheks> wsl2 is out?
[03:23] <sarnold> why wasn't that printed via the other tools? :(
[03:23] <Tripknotix> so i googled where the files were only to find out, you cannot edit files in windows, so learned how to create empty files in ubuntu, and then to edit them with nano. and at this very moment it is walking down the steps of the program =) it worked
[03:23] <Tripknotix> so far =P
[03:24] <Tripknotix> iunno
[03:24] <Tripknotix> yes wsl2 is out for a few months now oerheks
[03:24] <Tripknotix> they claim its mostly backwards compatible just better. but i trust wsl1 since the tutorial was written for that
[03:30] <Tripknotix> ok it finally ran into an error, https://pastebin.com/jKj7WC6H
[03:30] <Tripknotix> im going to read the document alittle further to see if i can understand the error
[03:50] <funhouse> how do i kill all processes with the name pipelined_all.php
[03:54] <sarnold> try killall pipelined_all.php
[04:29] <funhouse> sarnold thank you again
[06:15] <en11gma> im booting ubuntu 20.04 "Daily Build" from a live usb stick (try ubuntu). by default the repos universe and multiverse are not enabled. how can i enable them "without" apt updating?
[06:16] <en11gma> i shouldnt need to update ubuntu as i just downloaded the daily. and every day when i dl the daily build and bootup it always wants me to update ubuntu base which usually wants me to restart. i dont want to restart im running a live usb
[06:16] <en11gma> i do need to enable universe and multiverse though as there are packages i want that dont require a restart
[06:17] <en11gma> is there a way to disable auto update when adding a repo?
[06:17] <alkisg> en11gma: are you talking about 20.04 or 22.04?
[06:18] <alkisg> 20.04 has a stable point release (20.04.4), no need to use the daily build for that
[06:19] <en11gma> well i been going back and fourth. i just want to run a daily where i dont need to update something thats going to make me restart. so lately i get the latest which is usually 22.04 but i have no problem with 20.04 as long as i dont have to restart because i cant
[06:20] <en11gma> i dont want to use a daily build but thats what i been doing to avoid restarts because i running live
[06:20] <en11gma> i think there is a '-n' switch when adding a repo
[06:21] <alkisg> en11gma: when you add a repository, apt needs to pulls the list of the programs there, otherwise you can't use that repository
[06:21] <ndut> 43 more minute election of university finished ... . good luck ... . mit harvard cambridge ntu unsw so far ... .
[06:21] <rfm> en11gma, you have to do an update to get at anything in the repository, but if you don't "apt upgrade" nothing but the index files gets installed.  then you can apt install whatever package you want.  (unless you're worried about unattended-upgrades?)
[06:21] <alkisg> So if you just want to add it to your sources.list, sure you can do that, but it'll still be useless
[06:21] <alkisg> enigma9o7: note that all the other flavours EXCEPT for GNOME do have universe pre-enabled
[06:22] <en11gma> omg are you serious?
[06:22] <en11gma> lol i never knew that
[06:22] <en11gma> thats the one i always get.
[06:22] <en11gma> universe and multiverse?
[06:22] <alkisg> No I don't think multiverse is preenabled. Just universe.
[06:23] <en11gma> thanks for the help. i appreciate it
[06:24] <en11gma> ok i going to go try this again. bbiab
[08:39] <RedDevilVigilant> lol
[08:40] <RedDevilVigilant> Welcome back
[09:12] <RedDevilVigilant> I like watching people who join and then leave due to their connection, for some reason I find it funny lol.
[09:15] <acosonic> maybe next generation firewalls deciding to cut their connection... In order to access IRC for example I had to proxy to local server who is tunneling me to Germany... Just because of crazy shit corp firewall... :(
[09:16] <RedDevilVigilant> Dang that sounds like a lot of work lol
[09:16] <acosonic> yah, so 2 servers actually... One local, one VPS
[09:17] <RedDevilVigilant> Tbh I would've just used my Google cloud server
[09:50] <acosonic> isn't Google cloud expensive?
[09:51] <RedDevilVigilant> Yes, but I still use it lol
[09:52] <RedDevilVigilant> In my opinion, it was cheaper than when I used AWS
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[10:06] <acosonic> I am paying $4 /month for herzner VPN
[10:06] <acosonic> I am paying $4 /month for herzner VPS
[10:06] <pagios> hey guys, do you recommend any password manager for teams? something  where i can specify permissions for users / etc
[10:07] <acosonic> @pagios vault plugin for Redmine...
[10:08] <RedDevilVigilant> @acosonic Thank you for that lol I might use it over Google cloud so I can save some money lol
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> please only ubuntu support issues here acosonic pagios RedDevilVigilant
[10:08] <acosonic> oh @pulseaudio joined, nice... Anyone using pulse effects
[10:09] <acosonic> I love it, using it with convolver plugins and SRS WOW signals, check my repo https://github.com/acosonic/convolver_signals
[10:10] <RedDevilVigilant> I will check it out!
[10:12] <acosonic> yeah, too bad I don't have time to write, and once written nobody reads :D, but I can't live without pulse effects and when using headphones then renaming wav to irs, find your headphone model here
[10:12] <acosonic> https://phones.killdozer.uk/about/
[10:12] <acosonic> and just load it into convolver
[10:14] <RedDevilVigilant> Oh wow that's cool
[10:29] <mort> hey kind of a random question, but: the Ubuntu Font License doesn't have an SPDX license identifier. What do you do when you need to use it in a system which requires you to specify SPDX identifiers?
[10:35] <opaldes> Hi, anyone only who has indepth knowledge how the unix printing server works? I cant get the printer to work and it seems like a cups issue
[10:39] <acosonic> @opaldes have you logged into cups to see what's there?
[10:42] <opaldes> Yes, it just says filter failed no further info and the logs are not helpful to me
[10:46] <pulseaudio> what is the fix for the error i sometimes get in the terminal with sudo, "can't get a lock" ?
[10:48] <mgedmin> pulseaudio: what's the full command?  sudo apt install stuff reports this error when a background process is busy doing an apt-get update etc.
[10:48] <mgedmin> the fix is to wait a couple of minutes and try again
[10:49] <pulseaudio> the error occured when i used sudo with ramdom commands i saw on tutorials without having any idea what they do
[10:52] <mgedmin> I don't believe sudo itself does any locking, so the error must've been from the command you ran with sudo
[10:53] <mgedmin> locks are a tool for preventing multiple programs from touching the same data at the same time, so they don't interfere with each other
[10:56] <mrkubax10> also it's not good idea to enter random commands from internet without knowing what they do
[10:56] <EriC^^> pulseaudio: usually if it's an apt/dpkg error you want to see if dpkg or something apt related is running with ps aux | grep -E "apt|dpkg"  and if nothing is running you can just rm the lock file they mention
[10:56] <rob0> lol
[11:57] <corentin> Hello, I'm struggling ton install "Ahkx" on impish. My guess it is too old and there are a lot of changes in the files organisation and so. Do you have any idea on how i can run .ahk files on this OS ?
[11:57] <corentin> Any help is appreciated
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:32] <mcqueen> ok, ciao
[12:35] <RedDevilVigilant> Oh wow, a lot of people are timing out at the same time LOL
[12:35] <pagios> what do you guys think of passbolt? secure? popular? the ui is good enough not sure about the rest.
[13:30] <wyre> why is this https://slack.com/help/articles/212924728-Download-Slack-for-Linux--beta-#ubuntu-1 in that way?
[13:30] <wyre> are also snap packages upgraded with apt-get? 🤔
[13:32] <leftyfb> wyre: 1: what?  2: no
[13:32] <wyre> leftyfb, "sudo snap install slack"
[13:32] <wyre> but then to upgrade "sudo apt-get upgrade slack-desktop"
[13:33] <leftyfb> wyre: those are 2 different packages you have installed
[13:33] <wyre> sure, but is there some relation between them?
[13:33] <wyre> maybe the slack-desktop triggers the snap upgrade?
[13:33] <ogra> unlikely
[13:33] <leftyfb> no
[13:34] <leftyfb> wyre: you have a snap slack installed which updates itself automatically and you have a .deb package installed which you need to manually upgrade with apt-upgrade. You should remove 1 of them to reduce confusion
[13:35] <ogra> wyre, you should report to slack that their doc is confusing ...
[13:35] <wyre> ogra, sure, I was thinking just that
[13:35] <wyre> they have should included also the snap upgrade mechanism
[13:35] <wyre> s/have should/should have/
[13:36] <ogra> wyre, i know their developers whatch forum.snapcraft.io closely (at least they said so on that forum) so probably leaving qa post there gets you fast attention
[13:36] <ogra> -q
[13:38] <wyre> done, thank you guys 😊
[13:58] <AstaraWorld> //////
[13:59] <varaindemian> where does Ubuntu 20.04 save the config for network changes done applied in GUI?
[14:00] <leftyfb> varaindemian: more importantly, why do you need to know?
[14:00] <varaindemian> I want to see how the config file looks like
[14:01] <leftyfb> varaindemian: it depends on which desktop environment you are running
[14:01] <varaindemian> Gnome
[14:01] <leftyfb> varaindemian: again, it might help to understand your end goal here
[14:01] <varaindemian> setting a static ip address
[14:01] <varaindemian> I just set it and it appears correctly in ifconfig
[14:01] <varaindemian> now I want to see the file
[14:02] <leftyfb> varaindemian: Ubuntu 20.04 does not have ifconfig installed by default.
[14:02] <varaindemian> `ip a` shows the same
[14:02] <leftyfb> varaindemian: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[14:03] <tykling> we have an X server and a bunch of hardware thin clients, sometimes I need to emulate one of the thin clients, I used some software capable of doing this in the past but I forgot the name and am unable to search it up. Basically I just want some software that acts like the hardware thin clients we have :)
[14:04] <ogra> qemu ?
[14:04] <tykling> uh, what? the virtualisation software?
[14:04] <ogra> yeah
[14:04] <tykling> no
[14:06] <varaindemian> leftyfb: thanks!
[14:25] <tykling> remmina was what I was looking for
[14:25] <tykling> with the xdmcp plugin
[14:26] <leftyfb> remmina is an RDP/VNC client
[14:27] <alkisg> xdmcp is the same as X -query
[14:31] <RedDevilVigilant> Oh wow, I didn't know that they were the same. I thought they were different, lol.
[14:32] <alkisg> I meant "remmina isn't necessary to emulate X -query, you can just run that..."
[14:33] <alkisg> It's even possible to just set it as a lightdm option and directly do remote login
[14:45] <Sven_vB> hi :) what file systems does Ubuntu focal support that can rollback state for a few days?
[14:59] <Guest3931> nick M4rt1n
[14:59] <Guest3931> ./nick M4rt1n
[15:35] <snowhawk> hey. my icons are not showing up in Software Manager, and screenshots are not appearing
[15:36] <snowhawk> *Ubuntu Software
[15:39] <jhutchins> snowhawk: Please give us some context.  Which release of debian, what desktop, what have you done to customize the system?
[16:23] <craigbass76> I am SSHed into a server on my LAN, and have tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log running. Any idea why I keep locking up?
[16:23] <craigbass76> It'll go fine for a few minutes, but when I come back to check, it's dead Jim...
[16:24] <leftyfb> craigbass76: what is dead? Your ssh session or the server?
[16:24] <craigbass76> Sorry. The session
[16:25] <leftyfb> craigbass76: https://patrickmn.com/aside/how-to-keep-alive-ssh-sessions/
[16:26] <pasiz> session with log running shouldn't be considered stale
[16:40] <jhutchins> "Shouldn't"
[16:46] <alkisg> Use one of the tcp keep alive ssh options to keep it up; some routers/firewalls close the connection after some time of inactivity
[16:46] <sprnk[m]> can anyone explain why changing 'bionic' to 'focal' in this tutorial causes the microstack endpoints to only be available over https? disabed tls verification and still fails.  https://microstack.run/docs/using-juju
[16:54] <leftyfb> sprnk[m]: I think you want to /join #juju or contact Canonical for support with Microstack
[16:55] <sprnk[m]> leftyfb: thank you, #juju is not on the irc list :)
[17:28] <JonathanD> 40
[18:17] <ruzer> I have installed ubuntu replacing windows10
[18:17] <ruzer> I think battery is draining faster than before
[18:17] <ruzer> is it because of new intallation
[18:17] <ruzer> or will it settle with time
[18:20] <ruzer> help
[18:20] <leftyfb> !patience | ruzer
[18:20] <SnoopJ> I have never experienced a "burn-in" period with battery life of the sort you're asking about
[18:20] <oerheks> maybe it drains a little more, or little less..
[18:21] <leftyfb> ruzer: https://linoxide.com/install-use-powertop-ubuntu-16-04/
[18:23] <ruzer> SnoopJ: it seems like settling, will be normal in few more boots
[18:23] <ruzer> leftyfb: you here too
[18:23] <SnoopJ> if you say so
[18:23] <leftyfb> ruzer: "settling" of the battery on a different OS isn't a thing
[18:24] <ruzer> leftyfb: ya
[18:25] <ruzer> thats not what i meant
[18:25] <leftyfb> rebooting your machine multiple times has zero affect on battery performance
[18:26] <ruzer> After fresh intallation, the os needs to configure everything , initializing... that might drain more battery
[18:26] <oerheks> ubuntu - free energy not included*
[18:27] <ruzer> oerheks: free energy. lol
[18:31] <leftyfb> ruzer: on a fresh install, once you login, your machine .....  good talk
[18:39] <jonathan> Does anyone have a link to Ubuntu's bug report site to see what's been submitted?
[18:40] <leftyfb> !bug | jonathan
[18:40] <Mibix> why do i keep getting this software updater error https://imgur.com/a/M5wA6yL
[18:40] <leftyfb> Mibix: there are no errors
[18:41] <sarnold> jonathan: I understand this email list tracks all ubuntu bugs https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[18:41] <oerheks> packages kept back: use apt dist-upgrade
[18:41] <oerheks> !distupgrade
[18:41] <jonathan> sarnold: Thank you!
[18:42] <leftyfb> minimec: ( apt-cache policy libpcre2-16-0 libpcre2-32-0 libpcre2-8-0 libpcre2-dev ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:42] <oerheks> also, havig softwarecenter open and comandline update, can bite..
[18:43] <Mibix> ahh thanks oerheks
[18:43] <Mibix> never had to do one of those before heh
[18:44] <oerheks> softwarecenter normally would handle that fine
[18:44] <oerheks> choose partial update, then run again
[18:44] <Mibix> yeah i dunno
[18:45] <Mibix> i tried that and it didnt work
[18:46] <ruzer> oerheks: I did minimal install, which video player should i instll
[18:46] <enigma9o7[m]> do you already prefer anything?
[18:46] <enigma9o7[m]> personal preference
[18:46] <jhutchins> ruzer: Do you have a desktop environent?  Which one?
[18:47] <ruzer> by default genome
[18:47] <enigma9o7[m]> VLC is a decent choice.
[18:47] <oerheks> mpv would be my choice
[18:47] <ruzer> gnome sory
[18:47] <jhutchins> ruzer: https://itsfoss.com/video-players-linux/
[18:48] <leftyfb> minimec: ( apt-cache policy libpcre2-16-0 libpcre2-32-0 libpcre2-8-0 libpcre2-dev ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:49] <ruzer> jhutchins: which one is lightwieght
[18:49] <ruzer> i prefer no load
[18:49] <Mibix> cinnamon was my favorite but it gets these crazy memory leaks that stall my whole server lately :/
[18:50] <oerheks> impossible, 'prefer no load'
[18:50] <Mibix> after a few days it will use like 70gb of memory lol
[18:50] <ruzer> Mibix: that's near my total ssd size
[18:51] <Mibix> haha my server has lots of memory
[18:51] <Guest5913> Fuck off
[18:51] <leftyfb> Mibix: why are you running a desktop UI on a serer?
[18:51] <Guest5913> Ff djsis
[18:51] <leftyfb> !language | Guest5913
[18:51] <Guest5913> D
[18:51] <Mibix> love my UIs
[18:51] <Guest5913> Magore
[18:51] <jonathan> ruzer: oof, you do need to go lightweight.  MPV has worked for me in the past
[18:51] <Mibix> I also sometimes remote in and use it as a desktop while at work
[18:52] <Guest5913> Mbix fuck off ubuntu
[18:52] <Guest5913> Hhe
[18:52] <leftyfb> !op | Guest5913
[18:52] <Mibix> ?
[18:52] <ruzer> why do you allow guests
[18:53] <sarnold> most aren't that rude
[18:53] <ruzer> there maybe some filters
[18:53] <ruzer> sarnold: ya he was having bad timw
[18:53] <matsaman> if you've ever been to one of those super quiet, slow moving Dischord chat rooms, you'll know the value of unauthenticated users
[18:55] <sarnold> yeah, and most people aren't willing to go to the effort of signing up for an account and doing whatever verification steps are necessary before they've actually interacted with a community
[18:55] <ruzer> matsaman: i can never digest the ui of dischord
[18:55] <ruzer> it anoyying
[18:55] <ruzer> like kids toy
[18:55] <matsaman> yup, it's too featureful, and too locked down, IMO
[18:56] <matsaman> I can see the value for small groups
[18:56] <oerheks> sad discord is a Proprietary Blob
[18:56] <matsaman> but you may as well use mattermost at that point
[18:56] <matsaman> yep
[18:56] <jonathan> !bug
[18:56] <oerheks> as in; why we care about discord complaints, we cannot change anything
[18:57]  * genii looks in and sees that sarnold was already here
[18:57] <matsaman> exactly
[18:58] <kwak> Discord has quite amazing UI and UX IMO.
[18:58] <kwak> The information architecture is incredibly logical.
[18:58] <ruzer> beluga
[18:58] <jonathan> dog-gone-it.  I've been looking over my logs for an error that appeared once due to a bug when attempting to download a file from the Brave browser.  I believe it's got to do with the save prompt...  It doesn't look like it's been reported which makes me think it's just me.
[18:58] <kwak> And it follows best practices in terms of UX heuristics.
[18:59] <jonathan> using Jammy Beta...
[18:59] <ogra> folkss ... thats better suited in #ubuntu-offtopic 😉
[18:59] <oerheks> jonathan, join #ubuntu-next for jammy issues
[18:59] <jonathan> oerheks: 10-4, thanks.
[19:00] <ruzer> jonathan: is there any adblocker for yotube for chrome, i have mostly  used brave in windows for yt
[19:00] <matsaman> ublock origin?
[19:01] <ruzer> idk
[19:01] <enigma9o7[m]> Or use brave.
[19:02] <enigma9o7[m]> Or freetube.
[19:03] <jonathan> ruzer: brave's built in adblocker works pretty good.
[19:03] <ruzer> enigma9o7[m]: brave is another browser
[19:03] <ruzer> i don't need more
[19:03] <jonathan> ooo, well google likes their ad revenue, I'm not sure about chrome.
[19:03] <ruzer> jonathan: that's what I mostly used on windows pc
[19:03] <leftyfb> !ot
[19:04] <enigma9o7[m]> I only mentioned it as you said tdhat's what you already used.  Use whatever browser you like.  Ublock is a great plugin for chrome or firefox that does block youtube ads too.
[19:04] <ruzer> enigma9o7[m]: i'll try that
[19:05] <leftyfb> enigma9o7[m]: ruzer  feel free to discuss different browsers in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:05] <ogra> 👍
[19:34] <vogelCorvus> trying to get libcaca to work for ascii rendering on vlc, not sure where else to go
[19:34] <vogelCorvus> if anyone could help i'd super appreciate it
[19:34] <kostkon> !details
[19:35] <vogelCorvus> !pastebin
[19:37] <oerheks> on what vlc package, deb or snap?
[19:38] <oerheks> i guess the snap gives permission issues, when not set right
[19:38] <oerheks> install the deb version? it can reside with the snap
[19:39] <vogelCorvus> how would I check? I'm very new to ubuntu
[19:39] <vogelCorvus> trying to transfer from windows and become better at technical knowledge and development in general
[19:40] <oerheks> open terminal; snap list
[19:40] <oerheks> if so, sudo apt install vlc # and try libcaca again
[19:40] <vogelCorvus> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tQVk3mJqPW/
[19:41] <vogelCorvus> paste of the console output when i run vlc with caca
[19:41] <vogelCorvus> yeah i see vlc in snap list
[19:44] <vogelCorvus> says vlc is already the newest version when i do sudo apt install vlc #
[19:45] <vogelCorvus> still have the same error when running cvlc --vout caca as described in the pastebin
[19:45] <oerheks> then you would have 2 vlc versions in your manu
[19:45] <dortal> ubuntu
[19:45] <oerheks> or menu
[19:45] <vogelCorvus> hmm
[19:46] <leftyfb> dortal: please stop
[19:46] <vogelCorvus> i do see 2 vlc versions in my menu
[19:46] <ioria> vogelCorvus, https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues/26242
[19:47] <vogelCorvus> should i uninstall the snapd version
[19:48] <oerheks> you can.. that would make it easier
[19:48] <vogelCorvus> libcaca works on mplayer but i'd prefer to get it working on vlc if possible.
[19:48] <vogelCorvus> okay
[19:48] <oerheks> not sure it *can* work on vlc, i have no vlc installed
[19:49] <vogelCorvus> ah
[19:49] <vogelCorvus> hmm
[19:49] <vogelCorvus> if it just can't work on vlc i'll just use mplayer
[19:49] <vogelCorvus> still getting the same error with vlc in any case
[19:55] <didac45> hello people
[19:56] <oerheks> :-)
[19:57] <didac45> anybody knows any program to partition and format sd?
[19:57] <didac45> not gparted
[19:57] <leftyfb> didac45: gparted
[19:57] <oerheks> parted/gparted are the main tools
[19:57] <leftyfb> didac45: fdisk/gdisk/parted/mkfs
[19:57] <leftyfb> didac45: why not gparted?
[19:57] <oerheks> oh, and fdisk indeed
[19:58] <leftyfb> didac45: what is your criteria and what issues are you running into?
[19:58] <didac45> the problem is linux not detected my microsd, before i installed a image from chromeos.img
[19:59] <leftyfb> didac45: how are you determining detection?
[19:59] <didac45> yes with fdisk -l, but not show in the list
[19:59] <leftyfb> didac45: look in lsblk or dmesg to see if it's detected. If it's nor being detected, it's probably faulty
[20:01] <leftyfb> didac45: gparted not listing your device is not the fault of gparted. With microsd, it's more than likely the fault of the microsd being fault or your microsd reader
[20:01] <oerheks> sudo fdisk -l # might help ?
[20:01] <zen_coder> How can I get a unique ID from a machine running linux? Without requiring sudo
[20:01] <leftyfb> zen_coder: cat /etc/machine-id
[20:01] <leftyfb> zen_coder: though that's unique to the install but can also be changed
[20:02] <leftyfb> zen_coder: other than that, in order to read device info from DMI, you need admin privs
[20:05] <didac45> well show anything with dmesg
[20:05] <didac45> but now waht i do?
[20:05] <didac45> what i do?4
[20:05] <leftyfb> didac45: again, if it's not being detected in dmesg when you insert it, then it's faulty or the reader is faulty. Figure out which one it is and replace it
[20:08] <leftyfb> didac45: try to read/format another microsd card
[20:08] <leftyfb> if that works, then you know the other one is bad
[20:08] <didac45> it is detected how scsi
[20:08] <didac45> generic storage device
[20:09] <didac45> theis is the lines:  2080.530427] usb-storage 3-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[20:09] <didac45> [ 2080.531474] scsi host2: usb-storage 3-2:1.0
[20:09] <didac45> [ 2081.564333] scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Generic  STORAGE DEVICE   0547 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
[20:09] <didac45> [ 2081.564889] scsi 2:0:0:1: Direct-Access     Generic  STORAGE DEVICE   0547 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
[20:09] <didac45> [ 2081.565860] sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[20:09] <didac45> [ 2081.566695] sd 2:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[20:09] <leftyfb> I saw that coming
[20:09] <leftyfb> didac45: ( dmesg -T|tail -n50 ; lsblk ) | nc termbin.com
[20:10] <leftyfb> didac45: run that command and paste the resulting URL here
[20:15] <didac45> https://pastebin.com/FHNAhrZh
[20:15] <didac45> this is my log
[20:15] <leftyfb> didac45: you didn't run what I asked. Regardless, your sd card is bad
[20:16] <didac45> how i format again the sdcard?
[20:16] <leftyfb> didac45: you buy a new one, it's bad
[20:17] <didac45> oooh mad news
[20:18] <didac45> well thanks for help me
[20:18] <didac45> goodbye
[20:19] <oerheks> sorry for bringing the bad news :-(
[20:46] <ewomer> package linux-modules-extra-5.13.0-39-lowlatency is missing from apt
[20:47] <enigma9o7[m]> good god no
[20:47] <dortal> apt-get #libera
[20:47] <leftyfb> dortal: stop
[20:48] <dortal> starts
[20:52] <oerheks> !ops | dortal repeatedly makes noise in this channel, asked to stop repeatedly
[20:53] <oerheks> ewormer sure https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/5.13.0-39.44 there is lowlatency, run apt update first
[20:53] <leftyfb> oerheks: they left
[20:55] <jemadux> hello ... is there a way to install steam  ?
[20:56] <leftyfb> jemadux: yes, did you try?
[21:00] <leftyfb> jemadux: open the "Ubuntu software" app and search for "steam"
[21:01] <enigma9o7[m]> Yes.
[21:01] <jemadux> libgl1-mesa-dri:i386
[21:01] <jemadux> i have that error
[21:01] <enigma9o7[m]> That library you mean.
[21:02] <jemadux> yes
[21:02] <jemadux> its not installing even with apt install steam
[21:02] <leftyfb> jemadux: ( cat /etc/os-release ; uname -a ; apt-cache policy steam-installer ; sudo apt install steam-installer -y 2>&1 ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:04] <jemadux> leftyfb: https://termbin.com/dxdd
[21:05] <leftyfb> jemadux: now try running the command I gave you
[21:06] <jemadux> https://termbin.com/iazu
[21:08] <jemadux> leftyfb:
[21:09] <oerheks> sudo apt install steam:amd64 # might do the trick?
[21:13] <jemadux> the problem was the mirror
[21:13] <jemadux> i changed the mirror and now everything is working
[21:14] <oerheks> :-)
[21:17] <ewomer> anyone know where I could get the linux-modules-extra-5.13.0-39-lowlatency  package?
[21:17] <oerheks> ewormer sure https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/5.13.0-39.44 there is lowlatency, run apt update first
[21:18] <ewomer> Found it
[21:18] <ewomer> Its not in the repo so I had to manually download it from ubuntuupdates.org
[21:20] <ewomer> great, now more problems, W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/yellow_carp_gpu_info.bin for module amdgpu
[21:20] <leftyfb> oerheks: maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I've checked Ubuntu 16.04, 18.04 and 20.04 and can find zero linux-modules-extra*-lowlatency packages
[21:21] <oerheks> oops, -extra ?
[21:21] <leftyfb> right
[21:21] <leftyfb> I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist
[21:22] <ewomer> yeah
[21:22] <leftyfb> I also just checked 14.04
[21:22] <ewomer> don't know why
[21:22] <leftyfb> ewomer: there are no packages in ubuntu that provide the filename yellow_carp_gpu_info.bin
[21:23] <ewomer> yeah, it was just a warning/error or something.
[21:23] <leftyfb> ewomer: from installing a 3rd party application?
[21:23] <jemadux> i am comming from debian  ... is there a mirror cdn like deb.debian.org on ubuntu ?
[21:24] <ewomer> leftyfb: trying to install the amdgpu stuff with their installer but the extras modules is missing, but its referenced in someother package
[21:24] <leftyfb> jemadux: try archive.ubuntu.com
[21:24] <ewomer> that is part of the ubuntu apt sources
[21:25] <ewomer> Why are there extra modules for the generic hwe image but  not the lowlatency one?
[21:27] <oerheks> i have no clue why there is no extra modules for lowlatency
[21:29] <leftyfb> ewomer: maybe try asking in #ubuntu-kernel
[21:31] <ewomer> leftyfb: thank you.
[21:33] <Sven_vB> hi :) in bionic, how can I get a preview of what my "chmod --changes …" would do?
[21:34] <tomreyn> jemadux: not with the very setup discussed at http://deb.debian.org/ . There is http://mirrors.ubuntu.com/ - which is a bit similar.
[21:34] <Sven_vB> in the man page, I cannot find a --dry-run or --no-act or sth
[21:35] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: try them on a test file?
[21:35] <the9a3eed> Hi, I have a pinebook pro (arm64 system) running manjaro. I'm trying to create an Ubuntu 18.04 chroot in it using debootstrap. I've been following some guides online and they told me to point it to http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ but it's not working. I checked and it seems it doesn't hold ARM64 packages. Where can I find the right URL?
[21:36] <leftyfb> the9a3eed: why 18.04?
[21:36] <leftyfb> the9a3eed: why not use lxd?
[21:36] <tomreyn> the9a3eed: ports.ubuntu.com
[21:37] <the9a3eed> leftyfb, I want to install ROS melodic on my laptop and I kinda want it to match whatever my university is using, if that makes sense
[21:37] <the9a3eed> though I realize I can never fully match it due to chroot and ARM :)
[21:39] <oerheks> compile the source? http://wiki.ros.org/melodic/Installation/Ubuntu
[21:39] <oerheks> no arm64/bionic sofar
[21:40] <the9a3eed> oerheks, I'd much rather not  :)
[21:40] <the9a3eed> plus it's more about having the ubuntu environment that matches whatever my university is using
[21:40] <the9a3eed> also, the URL is working it seems... thanks! leftyfb
[21:41] <the9a3eed> oerheks, http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/bionic/ it does exist and debootstrap is working
[21:41] <leftyfb> the9a3eed: sent you a PM
[21:45] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, since I use --reference, I could even look at that file. to be more precise with "preview", I want a list of files whose permissions would effectively be changed, comparing old and new permissions. thus --changes
[21:45] <CarlFK> I have a dir of 17 .tiff files - how do I make that into a 17 page pdf?
[21:45] <oerheks> CarlFK, drag and drop?
[21:47] <oerheks> oh wait, tiff is not supported by pdf standards?
[21:48] <Sven_vB> CarlFK, do you have an easy way to convert them to PostScript? ImageMagick could do that, but last time I tried, it would do so by rendering a filled vector circle for each pixel, not the ideal method.
[21:49] <CarlFK> I have a sudo on my linux box, so sure, I can do anything :D
[21:49] <Sven_vB> CarlFK, if it's a one-time operation, and I'd want control about page margins, I'd probably use LibreOffice Draw.
[21:49] <ewomer> leftyfb: I just ended up downgrading to the *-generic kernel
[21:49] <CarlFK> there is tiff2pdf but it only operates on 1 input tiff file
[21:50] <CarlFK> LO draw, i like it... thanks
[21:50] <tomreyn> https://askubuntu.com/a/303910
[21:51] <CarlFK> bah - draw says "unknown image format"
[21:51] <oerheks> open a tiff in LibreOffice, export to pdf
[21:51] <Sven_vB> CarlFK, ImageMagick can probably make png from it. are you familiar with for loops in your shell?
[21:52] <tomreyn> !info img2pdf
[21:52] <Sven_vB> oh nice
[22:02] <VIA> in my foldr structure, when i set "order by name" # does not preceede A infact nothing does # always used as a marker for me .. what symbol could i use instead .. or where can i se a hiearchy of symbols used ? does it depend on my filemanager ?
[22:06] <jhutchins> VIA: What file manager are you using/
[22:06] <jhutchins> ?
[22:09] <VIA> second gotta find out
[22:09] <VIA> oh i think "thunar"
[22:09] <VIA> i  recall cause i had to figure out how to run it as sudo .. when everyone was just givign the friendly+useful advice "dont use sudo"
[22:10] <oerheks> Now you found out?
[22:11] <VIA> theres 2 commands that open the same (looks like it at least) FM one is "thunar %F" oder "exo-open --launch FileManager %u" both do the same
[22:14] <tomreyn> nautilus on 18.04 also uses this ordering, a file called '#' is listed at the end, after files named '_', '1', 'A' or 'a'. ls sorts it differently.
[22:15] <tomreyn> you might need to refer to the graphical file managers' source code.
[22:15] <VIA> ok i could use _ as marker then. ugly and easier to miss but works
[22:16] <VIA> yea good point. if i wasnt so busy dealin with figuring out finances and health i would be all over it
[22:24] <Sven_vB> VIA, the idea with exoopen is that it launches whatever the user configured as their favorite file manager.
[22:26] <VIA> ic thx for the info i wondered what that does since the process is then displayed as thunar
[22:26] <lidless> Hi. has anyone else had awful sound over a USB audio device since about 2 kernel upgrades ago? Maybe a week or so
[22:26] <lidless> My scarlet usb audio interface produces a lot of static and poor quality sound
[22:27] <lidless> USB bluetooth headset works but that's not ideal for me when I want my head free of stuff
[22:27] <VIA> maybe you need to up the sampling rate ? whats connected to it? im knowledgable about sound, not baout linux though
[22:27] <tomreyn> lidless: you may want to mention which ubuntu release, kernel variant and architecture you're using there.
[22:27] <VIA> i use a groundloop isolator for my crappy 2$ USB audio interface, and ordered more groundloop isolators cause i got multiple amplifiers hooked up, its just a mess when i run them all at once
[22:28] <snowhawk> VIA!
[22:28] <lidless> Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS / 5.13.0-39-generic / x64
[22:28] <snowhawk> sup
[22:28] <VIA> hey there snowhawk
[22:28] <snowhawk> lidless: ...my ubuntu isnt working
[22:28] <lidless> I haven't had to use anything. The suck started within the last 7 days
[22:28] <lidless> snowhawk: I hope you get a horrific disease very soon, k love.
[22:29] <snowhawk> :(
[22:29] <lidless> people would rather be little fucktards than help in the official help
[22:29] <VIA> trying to get about 120+€ of money from CC transactions back where they didnt deliver, but got their items back, other was scam or how do you say ..deceptive thingy ?
[22:29] <snowhawk> well..that was harsh
[22:29] <snowhawk> hi elcedro_83
[22:30] <VIA> have we met snowhawk sorry im terrible with names
[22:30] <snowhawk> no
[22:30] <snowhawk> first time ive seen you
[22:30] <VIA> cool :)
[22:32] <VIA> uhu i made that same experience lidless reported with many software-specific channels on #freenude however i was not directly offensive. my spelling seems to be a constant trigger for some individuals
[22:33] <snowhawk> VIA.. have you used any other Linux distros besides Ubuntu?
[22:33] <VIA> do u know this lidless snowhawk ? lol what in the hell o_o
[22:34] <leftyfb> lets stick to support questions please
[22:34] <VIA> yea had to try like at least 15 to find something that i liked/worked
[22:34] <snowhawk> I'm using Drauger
[22:34] <snowhawk> but there are no menus or taskbar!
[22:35] <leftyfb> snowhawk: you know we can't provide support for Drauger right?
[22:35] <snowhawk> yea
[22:35] <snowhawk> how are you?
[22:36] <tomreyn> snowhawk: there's #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat.
[22:36] <snowhawk> ok, thanks