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| KBar | Hi. Has jammy been pushed to beta? | 03:44 |
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| lotuspsychje | yes | 03:46 |
| KBar | Thanks. Fantastic job, folks! | 03:48 |
| lotuspsychje | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-22-04-testing-week/27491 | 06:09 |
| enyc | hrrm, Ubuntu 22.04 presumably won't have next Thunderbird-ESR series ?? 102? 103? with Matrix support? | 08:26 |
| alkisg | enyc: ah thanks for the pointer, I didn't know about matrix support in thunderbird! Thunderbird gets updated regularly so it'll get the update eventually. For now, I'll try enabling it from the config editor: https://matrix.org/docs/projects/client/mozilla-thunderbird | 08:33 |
| enyc | alkisg: hrrm well aiui its more experimental in earlier versions... curious what you find out about when next ESR would be declared and all that please =) | 08:40 |
| alkisg | enyc: no idea about ESR versions, but I've been using thunderbird in ubuntu for ages, and it's been updating regularly to newer versions | 08:40 |
| alkisg | (the normal, non-esr version) | 08:41 |
| alkisg | enyc: example: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=thunderbird ==> focal shipped with version 68, while focal-updates currently has version 91 | 08:44 |
| alkisg | Hmm I added my matrix account and it says it authenticated, but I can't locate the UI to send messages... And whatever I put in `Tools > Join chat` doesn't seem to do anything; I wonder if I'm using the wrong string for the channels I add there | 08:49 |
| enyc | alkisg: how updatincg to newer versions? a PPA? flatpak? snap? upstream binaries? | 08:56 |
| enyc | alkisg: I'd be tempted to try Matrix Element native client first ............ | 08:56 |
| alkisg | enyc: it's normal apt ubuntu updates without doing anything at all | 09:03 |
| alkisg | Like any other .deb ubuntu program | 09:03 |
| enyc | alkisg: which thunderbird version is it then? | 09:03 |
| alkisg | Currently 91, and later on, newer versions will arrive | 09:03 |
| alkisg | See the link that I pasted above | 09:04 |
| enyc | alkisg: hrrm aah yes as per pkg databaes, well the thing is the versions mozilla provide and ubuntu provide seem to be 91.x ESR series | 09:05 |
| enyc | whereas matrix development and exposure seems to be in newer 'series' 102 etc | 09:05 |
| enyc | https://developer.thunderbird.net/planning/roadmap | 09:06 |
| alkisg | We'll just wait a while then :) | 09:11 |
| Nart | Hello everyone, I have a question about locale support in 22.04 | 10:29 |
| rdr | do go on | 10:34 |
| Nart | Thank you, I added to the Abkhazian language to glibc 2.35 and Gnome 42, but I couldn't pick the language in 22.04 | 10:55 |
| Nart | language code is abkhaz - ab | 10:55 |
| rdr | do you mean during the install? or as your input method? | 11:00 |
| Nart | During the install, and as input method, both, it's not there at all. | 11:01 |
| Nart | in glibc 2.35 it's ab_GE | 11:03 |
| rdr | hmm, there may be a specific package you need to isntall | 11:04 |
| rdr | i'm not finding any packages with that language code in them looking for l10n | 11:06 |
| Nart | Why it's not there?! | 11:07 |
| rdr | I'm not sure. the only thing i could find was a team looking to translate for the language https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-ab | 11:08 |
| rdr | there's only one member and no messages in the mailing list | 11:09 |
| Nart | I thought including abkhazian to Gnome and glibc should be enough to include it to distros in general | 11:12 |
| Nart | What should I do to include Abkhazian to Ubuntu!? | 11:12 |
| rdr | i think you might have to look intot he "ibus" input method | 11:14 |
| rdr | but even then i'm not certain it will have that | 11:14 |
| rdr | unless it's just a matter of installing a font and keyboard layout | 11:15 |
| Nart | It's not about font and keyboard, the localization of Gnome, the interface of ubuntu | 11:15 |
| rdr | well, i'd email the member of the translation team, but it's possible it hasn't been done yet | 11:16 |
| Nart | I am the translation coordinator for the Abkhazian team in Gnome, we translated 3% so far | 11:17 |
| Nart | We need to see how our work looks like in a real life | 11:17 |
| Nart | aka a distro | 11:17 |
| ravage | 22.04 is already in beta. i think its safe to say that your changes will not make it into this release | 11:17 |
| ravage | and Ubuntu only does "small" changes to Gnome. so when your language is in gnome Ubuntu will pick it up in one of the next releases | 11:19 |
| Nart | This has been quite some time, that's why I am asking, it should've picked it up in this release | 11:20 |
| ravage | https://i.imgur.com/Igid9wS.png this is my current 22.04 | 11:20 |
| Nart | How does this work, how is I know for sure what's going on | 11:21 |
| ravage | did you try to just install it? | 11:21 |
| lotuspsychje | we also have an #ubuntu-translators team if needed | 11:21 |
| Nart | The point is to get it supported, I can install it, but ordinary people cant | 11:22 |
| Nart | I need to hear from the Ubuntu team, please! | 11:23 |
| lotuspsychje | Nart: talk to gunnarHJ in #ubuntu-translators he knows a lot on languages & translating issues | 11:26 |
| lotuspsychje | idle there till he wakes up | 11:26 |
| Nart | Hmm okay, thanks | 11:26 |
| ravage | also it looks like the language exists in gnome. so what you are asking is a translation of the installer to select it? | 11:26 |
| ravage | just so he knows what you actually want to be translated by the ubuntu team. | 11:27 |
| Nart | I want to able to select the language from the installer or from the language support settings | 11:28 |
| ravage | the language is available in gnome in 22.04 as you can see | 11:28 |
| ravage | but the installer does not support it yet | 11:29 |
| Nart | > the language is available in gnome in 22.04 as you can see | 11:29 |
| Nart | Do you have a screenshot? | 11:29 |
| ravage | https://i.imgur.com/Igid9wS.png | 11:29 |
| Nart | This is not it | 11:30 |
| ravage | ok? | 11:30 |
| ravage | sorry then :) | 11:31 |
| Nart | This is not it, what you are showing me has nothing man | 11:31 |
| ravage | but im pretty sure Ubuntu does not do a lot of gnome translations itself | 11:31 |
| ravage | #ubuntu-translators is a good way to ask for help. so do what lotuspsychje said | 11:34 |
| lotuspsychje | he joined, but gunnar has still to wakeup :p | 11:34 |
| ravage | damn timezones | 11:34 |
| lotuspsychje | hehe | 11:34 |
| Nart | Okay | 11:35 |
| lotuspsychje | he helped me point to some dutch items on jammy to translate | 11:35 |
| ravage | in gnome itself or the installer? | 11:35 |
| lotuspsychje | in gnome shell yeah, right mouse click desktop had some english items still | 11:36 |
| ravage | ok. sure. gnome-shell is an Ubuntu thing :) | 11:37 |
| Nart | Thank you, bye bye | 11:48 |
| ravage | heh. going offline is not the best way to get help :D | 11:48 |
| lotuspsychje | fix commit bug #1965673 | 14:48 |
| ubottu | Bug 1965673 in ibus (Ubuntu) "Object 0x... of type IBusText has been finalized while it was still owned by gjs, this is due to invalid memory management" [Undecided, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1965673 | 14:48 |
| howarth | Anyone else seeing corruption in Cheese under 22.04? | 20:59 |
| howarth | A lot of buffers are being dropped | 21:00 |
| howarth | No problem under 21.10 | 21:00 |
| tarzeau | which camera? | 21:02 |
| tarzeau | if you start it from a terminal, do you get any output? anything in dmesg output? | 21:03 |
| howarth | Logitech, Inc. HD Webcam C525 | 21:05 |
| howarth | cheese:4028): cheese-WARNING **: 17:00:04.925: A lot of buffers are being dropped.: ../libs/gst/base/gstbasesink.c(3143): gst_base_sink_is_too_late (): /GstCameraBin:camerabin/GstViewfinderBin:vf-bin/ClutterGstVideoSink:cluttergstvideosink0: | 21:05 |
| howarth | There may be a timestamping problem, or this computer is too slow. | 21:05 |
| howarth | I tried adding /etc/modprobe.d/uvcvideo.conf with 'options uvcvideo nodrop=1' and it didn't help | 21:07 |
| howarth | It shows up as a black and white image with lots of vertical white bands | 21:08 |
| howarth | Tried the current Fedora beta and it has no video problems with Cheese on the Logitech C525. So this regression appears to be Ubuntu specific. | 21:54 |
| howarth | Of course, the current Fedora beta is on the 5.17 kernel rather than 5.15. | 21:55 |
| howarth | Probably yet more regressions have to be fixed after they are backported from the latest kernel releases. | 21:57 |
| guiverc | is there a jammy bug tracking document (yet) ? | 22:02 |
| howarth | Don't think so | 22:02 |
| guiverc | user on reddit asking about wayland/drag-drop not working on firefox; I can find bug reports for impish on issue; not jammy (fix released/committed) .. & thanks howarth | 22:03 |
| howarth | IMHO, the release is still in pretty rough shape | 22:03 |
| howarth | Things like the skype and etcher debs don't install | 22:03 |
| howarth | they fail with sandbox errors | 22:03 |
| guiverc | skype is 3rd party, so that's a microsoft issue.. I think jammy is pretty good myself | 22:03 |
| howarth | It nuked my 21.10 volume when I tried doing a distupgrade -d | 22:04 |
| howarth | Ended up with a flashing caret and an unbootable system | 22:04 |
| howarth | The installer then refused to detect the mangled 21.10 volume as an upgradable target and only would do a clean install | 22:05 |
| howarth | No impressed | 22:06 |
| howarth | Not | 22:06 |
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