| lotuspsychje | good morning | 03:48 |
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| ducasse | good morning | 07:29 |
| yurtesen | good afternoon | 12:03 |
| marcoagpinto | Olá!!! | 12:27 |
| semitones | Do you think ubuntu will ever switch to flatpak, like they did with Mir->Wayland, and Unity->Gnome3 | 12:57 |
| EriC^^ | semitones: i think unity an mir going from them was about the phone-endeavor shutting down, they wanted initially to make phones and mir and unity were a big part of it, afaik | 13:09 |
| semitones | and I guess snaps still make a lot of sense for them for containerized apps in servers, regardless of what is happening on desktop | 13:10 |
| EriC^^ | aha | 13:15 |
| EriC^^ | no idea what flatpaks are tbh | 13:16 |
| semitones | it is the implementation of containerized apps that the other distros use, like Steam OS | 13:17 |
| EriC^^ | i see | 13:18 |
| leftyfb | semitones: to be clear, other distro's support flatpak in the same way ubuntu supports it, just like snap. I don't know of a single distro that is only based on flatpak. They all have some underlying package manager it's built on that isn't flatpak. SteamOS is based on Debian which uses deb/dpkg but also support flatpak, just like ubuntu | 13:20 |
| semitones | i thought the other distros installed flathub by default, where ubuntu installs the snap store by default | 13:20 |
| semitones | flathub or other software centers, i don't really know | 13:21 |
| leftyfb | some do, some don't. Just like snap | 13:21 |
| ogra | semitones, snaps are massively used commercially by canonical customers since 2015 (long before flatpak even existed), i doubt you will see them, go away as long as customers pay for it | 13:46 |
| leftyfb | unlike flakpak, there's an entire OS built on only snap for packages | 13:47 |
| ogra | also there is the whole Ubuntu Core product line that is completely built from snaps (kernel, rootfs, even the bootloader is a snap there), that is commercially successful in industrial, IoT, embedded, robotics, digital signage etc etc ... | 13:47 |
| ogra | heh leftyfb beats me 🙂 | 13:47 |
| leftyfb | I have 38 snaps installed on my main worksation. zero flatpaks | 13:48 |
| ogra | flatpaks are a noce delivery mechanism for some desktop apps ... but totally not comparable to snaps which are a whole packaing ecosystem | 13:48 |
| ogra | s/noce/nice/ | 13:48 |
| leftyfb | full disclosure, only 19 of which I installed myself | 13:50 |
| ogra | my laptop has 110 snaps .. desktop 82 ... | 13:50 |
| ogra | and my house has about 20 UbuntuCore systems running ... one controlling the heating system of the house, one as my TV running kodi and a few DVB cards ... etc etc | 13:51 |
| leftyfb | lol, Kolusion just got banned from #linux for being Kolusion. | 13:54 |
| ogra | oh my | 13:54 |
| leftyfb | he's also been banned from freebsd | 13:56 |
| leftyfb | professional victim that one | 13:56 |
| leftyfb | ooo tomreyn , you banned them yesterday in #u ? | 13:58 |
| ogra | yes, and they complained in #u-devel | 13:59 |
| ogra | (see backlog there) | 14:00 |
| leftyfb | I'm not in there, no backlog for it in my logs | 14:00 |
| ogra | ah | 14:00 |
| ogra | well, they joined and called people in #u retards ... then complained for being called out offensive 🙂 | 14:01 |
| leftyfb | seems to be one of their goto words | 14:02 |
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