 no idea there, join #ubuntu-next for jammy support, i guess during uk office hours
[03:41] <jonathan> whoops
[03:41] <jonathan> Is anyone running the Beta with Nvidia GPU?  When the beta was release, Nvidia drivers were default, when installing fresh now, apt is patching and autoremove is removing nvidia drivers...  Has anyone else seen this?
[09:54] <alkisg> @enyc, I'm typing this from thunderbird > matrix using the stock 22.04 thunderbird version :)
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: saw new thunderbird updates in jammy this morning
[10:36] <alkisg> 👍
[13:24] <tarzeau> so lsb_release -a is interesting
[13:25] <tarzeau> the output is completely different if you have or not have these additionally: lsb-core lsb-printing lsb-security vs lsb-base/lsb-release
[13:27] <tarzeau> ohhhh it adds an extra line at the top (or not)
[15:38] <Ankh91> Hello there. I've just upgraded my system to Ubuntu 22.04 and now I have no audio device except dummy output. I run on laptop Dell Precision 5540. I've tried to add `options snd-hda-intel model=auto` to also-base.conf but that does not help. Any suggestion to recover the audio device?
[17:36] <mei[m]> hello, how do i 100% upgrade to 22.04? i did apt upgrade and flatpak update, also snap refresh. but as example the gnome screenshot app is still version 41 not 42. other things looks fine
[17:36] <mei[m]> gnome is 42, many gnome apps are not
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> mei[m]: screenshot app has been removed, jammy uses the prt sc button now
[17:38] <mei[m]> i have the same issue with clock app
[17:38] <mei[m]> about the screenshot app, i see. i should probably remove that than
[17:38] <rbasak> mei[m]: I think this is intentional. See https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-notes/24668
[17:39] <rbasak> "Several apps are still at their 41 version numbers to provide a more time-tested experience for the LTS desktop by mostly avoiding libadwaita."
[17:40] <mei[m]> okay, thanks
[17:40] <mei[m]> btw the ptr sc button screenshot thing is not localized
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> mei[m]: when you start your applications/search/screenshot you should see a screenshot launcher
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> and should be triggered by the prt sc button aswell
[17:46] <mei[m]> yeah, i totally see the app as well now. i didn't notice it before since it's not localized anymore. it's just english name + content
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> +1
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> i filed a wishlist to have it as GUI launcher back mei[m] 
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> but probably that wont make it on final release
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> feel free to help boost it anyway; bug #1966581
[17:49] <mei[m]> by localization i mean that is just plain english. no more translation. but now that you further explained me, yeah the app is not even there, but it show somehow as a thing you can open if you search for it
[17:50] <tarzeau> my users asked for sassc and installed https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock
[17:50] <tarzeau> and firefox is desktop+icon + mozilla binary + symlink to /usr/bin
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> tarzeau: the dock now has a non-panel mode, bringing dash closer on dock
[18:10] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: so there's a dock or no more? (like the one default left, 20.04)?
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> tarzeau: yes the dock is still there, but it has a 'centered' mode that brings dash closer to other launchers
[18:11] <tarzeau> can it be always visible?
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> yes
[18:11] <tarzeau> i definitely switched back to windowmaker, as when you use
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> lemme shot it holdon
[18:11] <tarzeau> local gnome, and remote (same user, same machine, gnome fails): if using xorgxrdp+xrdp
[18:12] <tarzeau> find my screenshots at livecd.gnustep.org about wmaker
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> https://imgur.com/a/4qEqEOn
[18:13] <tarzeau> lotuspsychje: strange, that's default 22.04? no old $HOME from 20.04?
[18:13] <tarzeau> i'll try with an empty home...
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> no, i started with a 22.04 daily physical
[18:15] <tarzeau> me too, but keeping $HOME
[18:20] <enigma9o7[m]> `Waiting for cache lock: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend. It is held by process 2711 (unattended-upgr).`
[18:20] <enigma9o7[m]> I always get that when I try to update.  Last time I killed the process...  but I imagine that's not what I'm suposed to do...  can someone explain whats happening?
[18:25] <Eickmeyer> enigma9o7[m]: That means unattended-upgrades is running. Just means you have to wait until it's done. If it's stuck, you might have to kill it (kill 2711), but that could leave your system in an unstable state.
[18:25] <enigma9o7[m]> Last time I waited several hours before I killed it....  
[18:26] <enigma9o7[m]> I can kill it again this time, but I'm looking for a more permanent solution perhaps.  Is there a way to disable it forever?  What is cuasing it to run forever?
[18:27] <Eickmeyer> enigma9o7[m]: Thing is, it's probably not a bug because it can't be reproduced everywhere.
[18:27] <Eickmeyer> Additionally, remember, you're running a pre-release, so it's probably not finished yet.
[21:50]  * enyc wonders what chaos ensuing in beta :O