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BluesKajHi all12:49
IrcsomeBot<Niggolas> Hello, I have a short question. I cannot seem to find a 22.04 BETA iso...is it not released yet?13:06
BluesKaj@Niggolas, https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/22.04/beta/13:14
IrcsomeBot<Niggolas> Τηανκ υοθ! (re @IrcsomeBot: <BluesKaj> @Niggolas, https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/22.04/beta/)13:26
IrcsomeBot<Niggolas> Thank you! (re @IrcsomeBot: <BluesKaj> @Niggolas, https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/22.04/beta/)13:26
BluesKaj@Niggolas, :-)13:39
tmlkhi! Which is the default Python version in Kubuntu 21.10?14:43
oerhekspython3 -v15:27
sigma__hi why i get this massage ? cannot increment value of type 'std::map<char, Counter>' (aka 'map<char, unsigned long long>')     i just try Analyzer_list[alphabet]++; Analyze is map pointer!?15:45
sigma__sorry wrong massage :)15:47
tmlkoerheks: Hi rephrase. I have both python3 and python2 in my Kubuntu installation. Python2 is the default version used by the system. "which python" resolves to a symlink to python2 binary. Is this the default or I messed somehow with my system?16:13
tmlks/Hi/I16:13
oerheksonly python3 is default, you must have installed a programm that depends on it, or cruft from upgrade16:27
woenxHi. Maybe someone could lend me a hand. I'm new to Kubuntu (used the regular ubuntu until now) and I want to configure autofs to automatically mount a sshfs share18:54
woenxBut I don't know if it's compatible. I copied my config files from my previous installation but doesn't seem to work. Maybe because KDE uses kio-fuse instead of fuse?18:54
woenxbtw, I can mount the share normally by using the sshfs command, but not when using automount / autofs18:55
Guest69I'm using a library with custom allocateObj and freeObj functions. I want to wrap these in some sort of RAII unique_ptr thing (or, at least the freeObj part). What's the easiest way to to that?19:01
Guest69Oops, wrong channel.19:21
woenxI was confused xD19:21
woenxAnyway, I created a thread on the forum, with all the details19:22
woenxhttps://www.kubuntuforums.net/forum/currently-supported-releases/kubuntu-22-04-jammy-jellyfish/software-support-be/662079-autofs-with-sshfs-in-kubuntu-22-0419:22
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orca4Hi there.20:27
orca4After a Kubuntu 21.04 reboot, my keyboard is not enabled in any graphical environment, but it sure is recognized in a plain (Ctl+Alt+F2) terminal. It used to work seamlessly before.20:29
valoriehmmm20:30
valoriethat sounds like possibly a hardware issue20:30
valorieoh, except that it works in term20:31
orca4It is a USB Logitech keyboard, in a Dell desktop machine. I have rebooted several times, tried different USB ports and even another keyboard, with no success at all20:31
valorieorca4: the other day I was having a problem with my laptop cam would was not detected20:31
orca4Right now, I am in the plain (text) terminal and am able to issue any commands...20:32
valorieI figured out that there is an fn key which turns it on and off!20:32
valorietry `lsusb` -- is it listed?20:32
oerheksare you sure you are on 21.04? it is EOL, dead. But i read some more 21.10 issues with keyboard and mouse not working after reboot.20:32
geniiMachiavellian designers20:32
valorieoh right, 21.04, sorry for not noticing that20:33
orca4@valorie: in fact, after the mentioned reboot, my USB mouse was not enabled either. However, after unpluggin and replugging it did start work again...20:33
valorielsusb will list all logged in usb devices20:34
valorieso try your fn keys and see if some appear and disappear20:34
valorieand then gosh, upgrade20:34
valorie!eol20:34
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:34
orca4lsusb furnishes 3 Logitech devices: the keyboard, the mouse, the headset, 1 generic webcam and some "root hubs"...20:37
valorieso it is not the USB that is the issue20:40
valoriehowever, we can't support an EOL release20:40
oerheksi find no recent bugreports, but users mention this on 21.10.20:41
orca4oerheks, @ubottu: at any rate, you mean I should upgrade to which exact release? To 21.10? As far as I know 22.04 is still beta; would it be worth trying?20:41
oerheksupgrading now brings you 21.10. only if you select -d = development, you get jammy 22.04 .. out in 14 days or so20:42
valoriepersonally I would go for jammy, but I'm planning to do that on this machine today anyway20:43
oerheksit will be appreciated, if you find glitches/bugs.20:44
orca4If that matters, I have tried booting from older kernels, withour any success either20:44
oerheks22.04 is LTS, stable and long term support20:44
oerheksorca4, oke, that is valuable info. you might want to file a bugerport, not sure if you can without keyboard..20:45
orca4oerheks : if I try 22.04 right now, you think this issue might get solved?20:46
oerheksif you install fresh, maybe yes20:46
orca4Hmm, in fact, I would like to preserve, by upgrading (not fresh installation) my already installed and configured packages and /home directory (which is in a separate partition)20:48
orca4So you guess upgrading to 21.10 or even 22.04 (beta), instead of a fresh install, is less likely to solve the issue?20:50
orca4The fact that in the plain terminal, the keyboard does work, but not in the login screen or (after using the virtual terminal) inside KDE, is not suggestive of just something related to perhaps some xserver-xorg-* package?20:53
valorieeasiest way to file a bug is `ubuntu-bug $packagename` but as oerheks says, that will require a keyboard at some point20:55
orca4I might be able to report a bug, because I have another fully operational Ubuntu 18.04 desktop as well, physically close/next to the 21.04 problematic one. Would that work? Which package should I associated the bug with?20:57
oerheksorca4, that is the problem; ubuntu-bug collects proper info from the running system.21:01
orca4When I issue (in the 18.04 machine) the command: ubuntu-bug, the first thing it asks is the kind of problem I wanna report. Should it be: (1) Other probelm, or (2) Display (Xorg)?21:02
orca4oerheks, I see21:02
oerheksand not sure what to file the bugrepost against, what package i mean21:03
orca4Isn't there a bug reporting plain text app?21:03
oerheksno, AFAIK21:03
orca4Perhaps I am being too naive, but, after entering KDE in the problematic 21.04 machine, or by using a live cd, I have the sheer impression that everything, apart from this keyboard issue, seems to be fine...21:05
oerheksproblem is; if one encounters this keyboard issue, one cannot go online to seek help or file a bugreport... so it might be a serious one, still no clue/bugreports appearing21:06
orca4Then, since I am able to run plain text commands, given sufficient expertise, should I not be able to fix everything, without having to dist-upgrade at all?21:07
orca4One last piece of info which might be relevant: when I boot from a 21.04 live usb stick, the keyboard DOES work... Does that mean something?21:10
oerheksNo. you have not the update that caused this.21:11
oerheksbut please, drop 21.04 .. and go for 21.10 /  22.0421:12
valorieIf you want to be cautious, orca4, then burn a thumbdrive with 22.04 beta and try it out21:13
valorieif it works, you are golden21:13
valoriethen you can either upgrade (twice) or just do a fresh install21:14
valorieusing an eol is dangerous, because you are not getting even security updates21:15
oerheksupdates would mention there is a new version available.21:16
orca4Ok I see. I guess I have nothing to lose, by then trying to upgrade twice, as valorie says: 21.04 -> 21.10 and then 21.10 -> 22.04 beta. Is it just a matter of changing the sources.list file and issuing apt upgrade, then apt dist-upgrade?21:18
orca4Should I be able to do the twice upgrade in a plain text terminal?21:23
orca4Thank you all!!21:37

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