[12:11] <ahasenack> good morning
[13:48] <xnox> smoser:  but there are syncs from bileto/security/PPA builds into stable series, i don't know if all of them end up in focal-changes or not.
[13:49] <xnox> i don't know where/how focal-changes gets its changes =)
[14:03] <smoser> xnox: well if there are changes that go into -security that don't get published to that list, then i have a big sad face here.
[14:15] <pitti> cpaelzer: \o/ thanks! great debugging work
[14:16] <pitti> cpaelzer: time and again, patch size ~ 1/debugging time
[14:16] <cpaelzer> yep
[14:16] <cpaelzer> let us hope the PPA works as expected ...
[14:17] <pitti> lemme test
[14:29] <LocutusOfBorg> tumbleweed, hello
[14:29] <LocutusOfBorg> are you available to talk a little bit about esys-particle?
[14:29] <LocutusOfBorg> I got some findings
[14:30] <LocutusOfBorg> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VQQc5D4GZC/
[14:41] <xnox> smoser:
[14:41] <xnox> https://www.google.com/search?q=grub2+2.04-1ubuntu26.12+site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Flists.ubuntu.com%2Farchives%2Ffocal-changes%2F&ei=APhOYsfpHMvVgQa-kJqgBw&ved=0ahUKEwjH6dS9l4L3AhXLasAKHT6IBnQQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=grub2+2.04-1ubuntu26.12+site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Flists.ubuntu.com%2Farchives%2Ffocal-changes%2F&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EANKBAhBGAFKBAhGGABQwARYwARghgdoAXAAeACAASWIASWSAQExmAEAoAEBwAEB&sclient=gws-wi
[14:41] <xnox> z
[14:41] <xnox> bah
[14:41] <xnox> smoser:  so focal-security has grub2 2.04-1ubuntu26.12 and when i do google search for "grub2 2.04-1ubuntu26.12 site:https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/focal-changes/ site:https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/focal-changes/" nothing seems to come up
[14:41] <xnox> with correct search syntax
[14:42] <xnox> oh, but it is there
[14:42] <xnox> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/focal-changes/2021-June/025366.html
[14:42] <xnox> and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/focal-changes/2021-June/025057.html
[14:42] <xnox> hm but that was direct upload
[14:43] <xnox> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/2.04-1ubuntu26.11 was a copy
[14:44] <xnox> and i don't see  grub2 2.04-1ubuntu26.11 in the june archive
[14:44] <xnox> smoser:  ^^^^
[14:46] <smoser> :big_sad_face: ☹️
[14:47] <smoser> that sucks. so there is really *no* way of knowing other than watching archive updates ?
[14:51] <smoser> on a related note, and in an effort to practice saying more nice things, https://ubuntu.com/security/cves is really nice. kudos to whoever worked on that.
[14:57] <xnox> yeah that portal was web-team & security team collab, and it is like data driven by opal data which one can get.
[14:57] <xnox> smoser:  if you are into security updates; opal data should have all cve  stuff.
[14:58] <smoser> i just want all the things ;)
[14:58] <xnox> but then again not everything that lands in security pocket, has CVE or USN ids assigned.
[14:58] <xnox> cause we land FTBFS fixes into -security too, when it affects installing upgrades.
[14:58] <xnox> (i.e. dkms module FTBFS, prevents kernel upgrade installs)
[15:19] <tumbleweed> LocutusOfBorg: yeah, I got about that far as well
[16:29] <LocutusOfBorg> tumbleweed,
[16:29] <LocutusOfBorg> esysparticle test.py
[16:29] <LocutusOfBorg> ['/tmp/merges/esys-particle-2.3.5+dfsg2', '/usr/lib/python38.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.8', '/usr/lib/python3.8/lib-dynload', '/home/locutus/.local/lib/python3.8/site-packages', '/usr/local/lib/python3.8/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3.8/dist-packages']
[16:29] <LocutusOfBorg> on focal
[16:29] <LocutusOfBorg> looks a python regression to me
[16:29] <LocutusOfBorg> the distutils change
[16:37] <LocutusOfBorg> tumbleweed, my guess is python.m4. we patched in automake-1.16 but esys is running its own embedded and patched copy
[17:18] <ogayot> xnox: after fighting with quilt to reduce the overall diff, I've finally come up with a new patch that applies on top of the others. Thanks again for your pointers! LP 1967518
[17:49] <vorlon> juliank: well I don't have much occasion to use ltrace but https://code.launchpad.net/~juliank/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/+merge/418876 is quite surprising to me; is there a bug report about this?
[17:50] <juliank> vorlon: I have not checked, but I've tried hello, dpkg, apt, ltrace did not do anything
[17:50] <vorlon> no bug reports
[17:50] <vorlon> hmm
[17:51] <juliank> vorlon: perhaps nobody uses it?
[17:51] <vorlon> juliank: we're late in the cycle and demoting something straight from standard to universe in one go post FF should have a high threshold of care.  Can you post on ubuntu-devel and try to get some feedback before we demote it?
[17:51] <juliank> vorlon: ack
[17:51] <vorlon> I *assumed* it still worked, but also I clearly haven't actually used it in years because strace is better than ltrace for most things!
[17:51] <vorlon> (or gdb)
[17:55] <juliank> vorlon: sent
[17:56] <juliank> Should test in Debian too and file RM RoQA maybe
[17:59] <juliank> vorlon: it works on Debian
[17:59] <juliank> vorlon: odd
[18:00] <juliank> maybe it's LTO and not PIE then?
[23:59] <tumbleweed> LocutusOfBorg: I still haven't figured it out. It *does* setup sys.path correctly, but then something deletes things from it again