[00:25] <Gallomimia> is 22.04 out yet or still pre-release?
[00:27] <Gallomimia> still pre-release. anyone recommend installing it now?
[00:28] <oerheks> Gallomimia, as it is LTS, you could
[00:28] <oerheks> !next
[07:40] <oerheks> eject && eject -t
[07:42] <xu-irc92w> no u
[08:48] <acosonic> my 20.04.4 crashes on lenovo think something station ...
[08:48] <acosonic> occasionally...
[08:49] <acosonic> Just freezes, mouse starts moving slowly, sound stops... And it stays like that and does not unfreeze...
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> acosonic: try keeping a journalctl -f open, see whats happening to your system, alternate check your dmesg log
[09:41] <acosonic> but I can't switch to other tab once that happens...  And that happens like 1x per month ...
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> acosonic: you got some items in /var/crash ?
[09:42] <acosonic> just remmina
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> acosonic: prob not your culprit, maybe share your dmesg in a pastebin so the volunteers can take a look?
[09:44] <acosonic> does gist work
[09:44] <acosonic> https://gist.github.com/acosonic/a3f83b98d4665552bb04c9c759cb1ff1
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> acosonic: you have secureboot enabled, you might wanna test disabling that
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> acosonic: also some acpi bugs showing there
[09:47] <acosonic> I was bullied into it with ubuntu upgrades
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> acosonic: some lenovos will offer firmware updates tru the ubuntu software centre, also something to try
[09:49] <acosonic> kk, I'm looking into it
[10:50] <phalor> does anyone know why my firewall is stopping this?
[10:50] <phalor> https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/ss23Smt9LF53.png
[10:51] <ravage> because you mixed up source and destination port
[10:52] <phalor> how do i fix it?
[10:53] <ravage> --dport 25
[10:56] <phalor> thanks. i will look into it
[11:29] <phalor> when i use this command it says ERROR: Could not find protocol
[11:29] <phalor> ufw allow in on ens3 proto tcp from any port any to 192.168.2.1 port 25
[11:33] <SteelRose> Hello Ubuntu Wizards! Is there something similar to Spacewalk or Uyuni in the Ubuntu landscape? In other words, a configuration and infrastructure managemement tool to, among others, patch systems automatically, etc
[11:33] <SteelRose> thanks
[11:43] <Guest56> hi,there. can anyone tell me where i can get technical support for Ubuntu graphics driver related problems?
[11:44] <phalor> here
[11:45] <phalor> whats ur problem?
[11:46] <Guest56> my laptop can't identify my integrated graphics card
[11:46] <Guest56> lshw -C video
[11:46] <Guest56>   *-display UNCLAIMED
[11:46] <Guest56>        description: VGA compatible controller
[11:46] <Guest56>        product: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
[11:46] <Guest56>        vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
[11:46] <Guest56>        physical id: 0
[11:46] <Guest56>        bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
[11:46] <Guest56>        version: c5
[11:46] <phalor> perhaps your graphics card is too new and not supported in the drivers yet
[11:47] <phalor> is it a new laptop? and what brand laptop?
[11:55] <jose_> hola
[11:57] <jose_> quit
[12:08] <phalor> Is it a bug?
[12:09] <phalor> when I run (ufw allow in on ens3 proto tcp from any port any to 192.168.2.1 port 25), it says "ERROR: Could not find protocol".
[12:15] <phalor> ok, if i remove 'proto tcp' it still complains it can't find the procotol!
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:03] <sem> I'm looking for help getting my boot splash screen to work. I am on lubuntu 20.04, and already tried update-alternatives, not sure how to troubleshoot from here.
[13:15] <phalor> does anyone know why my firewall isnt letting this in? https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/o2KS7ms3ByYE.png
[13:16] <phalor> sorry accidently left and i dont know if i sent my message
[13:16] <phalor> does anyone know why my firewall isnt letting this in? https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/o2KS7ms3ByYE.png
[13:17] <rob0> I can't view an image.  My IRC machine is console-only.
[13:17] <phalor> there is so much to type out
[13:19] <rob0> can't you select text and use a text pastebin?
[13:25] <yrdsb> when will ubuntu 22.04 get relesed
[13:26] <EriC^^> yrdsb: april 21 iirc
[13:26] <yrdsb> will ubuntu 22.04 get the new ubuntu logo
[13:26] <ogra> it already has it ...
[13:26] <ogra> !next | yrdsb
[13:27] <phalor> What does the logo look like?
[13:27] <phalor> LOL thats so bad
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> lets not discuss that here phalor
[13:28] <phalor> i am actually laughing
[13:28] <phalor> but ok
[13:55] <yrdsb> can anyone send a link
[13:55] <yrdsb> to ubuntu 22.04 daily build
[13:58] <BluesKaj> heh, there used to be a saying "google is your friend", but I think that no longer applies :-)
[14:00] <robot56> hi
[14:00] <robot56> can anyone send me a link to ubuntu 22.04 daily build
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> !next | robot56
[14:01] <ravage> also.. just google it
[14:18] <NeilRG> what's a nice CPU usage widget I can add to my taskbar?
[14:18] <NeilRG> or in general?
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> !info conky | NeilRG
[14:42] <sem> Is it a common known issue with proprietary drivers that they disable the boot splash, and you get a black screen instead?
[14:43] <ravage> it is a common problem with nvidia drivers
[14:43] <sem> thanks; i suppose i'll just delete the "splash" part of the kernel boot line then, so I can tell that *something* is happening
[14:45] <jhutchins> sem: My 3D printer drivers don't seem to have that problem.
[14:47] <sem> jhutchins, good point; i forget that you can have other type of proprietary drivers
[14:50] <phalor> does anyone know why my firewall isnt letting this in? https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/o2KS7ms3ByYE.png
[14:51] <jhutchins> phalor: Does anyone know what firewall you're running?
[14:51] <alkisg> jdstrand said: if phalor returns, removing 'port any' makes it work. 'any' isn't a valid port (the error could be clearer on that point; it isn't referring to 'proto tcp', it is referring to the lookup in /etc/services)
[14:51] <phalor> jhutchins if they look at the picture they will
[14:53] <phalor> thanks alkisg for relaying that to me
[14:53] <phalor> i worked it out already :)
[14:53] <ogra> phalor, well, if you just mentioned ufw in the question people wouldnt have to use a browser 🙂
[14:53] <phalor> bit its still not working
[14:54] <phalor> ogra, they will need to use a browser to look at the pic, unless they are RMS and fetching my pic with wget :)
[14:55] <phalor> i cant understand why it is blocking it. there must be another reason and its not giving me the information
[14:56] <phalor> UFW needs to be improved to give comments, like a SMTP server
[14:56] <phalor> or codes
[15:01] <phalor> Come on someone must know the answer. It can't be this bad.
[15:03] <TrippyJ> Hey everybody, I moved servers for my project and I have two domains. Right now, both domains work on the server, but the server is running on domain2 and is set up as domain2. My problem, is my smtpd was abused for a few hours as an open relay when I first set it up and now Gmail is blocking mail from that domain 533 or whatever - I am trying to
[15:03] <TrippyJ> think of all the things I would need to do to just revert the new server fully to the previous FQDN
[15:03] <TrippyJ> I think I have to change my hostname, restart all services, reconfigure postfix and opendkim for the other domain (the configuration is still for the previous server)
[15:04] <TrippyJ> Trying to think what else I am missing or how long I might have to lose some services to do this
[15:04] <TrippyJ> I had such an awful time getting opendkim and smptd set up the last two times haha. The first time was about 4 hours and the second took me over 24 :(
[15:04] <TrippyJ> phalor - tell me your problem I missed it
[15:04] <TrippyJ> I'm not very good but maybe I can help
[15:05] <phalor> My UFW firewall is not allowing through a packets when it should be: https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/o2KS7ms3ByYE.png
[15:05] <phalor> The conditions meet the gatekeepers condition, but he is still sooking and won't tell me why
[15:06] <phalor> As for your mail server, get yourself a new IP address, that will be your biggest improvement.
[15:06] <TrippyJ> Yeah, but Gmail is blocking it based on the domain
[15:06] <TrippyJ> Hilariously, my other emails from the same IP but with the other domain are working (but being sent to spam because it fails dkim, etc.;)
[15:07] <phalor> Then you need to get in contact with Google and tell them you messed up and you have taken measures to fix it.
[15:07] <TrippyJ> Yeah, they don't seem to have support for that it seems like the fix can take weeks
[15:07] <phalor> Yes, blocking IP's would not be good for virtual servers sharing the same host.
[15:07] <TrippyJ> (reputation for domain has to improve, there is an algorithm)
[15:07] <phalor> You have to live with it then. Sorry to be so blunt, but this is how the world works.
[15:07] <TrippyJ> but, I can just swap to the other domain, it isn't really a big deal, I just don't want too many major service hiccups
[15:08] <TrippyJ> I might be able to do it live today if I think only some services have to be restarted here and there
[15:08] <TrippyJ> (there are only 3 users today due to a company event)
[15:08] <phalor> Do what ever you have to do to get it working again, at any cost
[15:08] <TrippyJ> Also for your problem, is there another firewall beyond UFW?
[15:08] <phalor> How did you manage to run an open relay?
[15:08] <phalor> There is no firewall beyond UFW.
[15:08] <phalor> and iptables are default.
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> TrippyJ phalor sounds like both your issues are more networking related, then ubuntu issues
[15:09] <TrippyJ> When I moved servers I was so caught up getting opendkim working that I screwed up my postfix.main or postfix.cf or whatever
[15:09] <phalor> lotuspsychje: My problem is with UFW, a Canonical product made specifically for Ubuntu.
[15:09] <ogra> well, ufw is just a frontend ... you can alsways use iptables or netfilter directly
[15:09] <TrippyJ> In the end, not even sure what ended up fixing it, I pretty much rewrote the files exactly as I had them and it stopped, my logs were going crazy for about 2h:(  haha
[15:09] <phalor> ogra: Yes, it will require learning them. I would rather stick with what I know.
[15:10] <phalor> TrippyJ: How long have you been running a mail server for mate?
[15:10] <ogra> (i was commenting on "there is no other firewall than ufw" ... i'm sure there are other frontends in universe)
[15:10] <TrippyJ> I ran one before many years ago, and only recently started again a few months ago. The first one I did great because it worked after only minor frustrations and I made sure to lock it down
[15:10] <phalor> ogra: OpenSUSE crew tried to get me to use theirs. :)
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> !ot | TrippyJ phalor
[15:11] <TrippyJ> This second one, I was struggling for about 24 hours and just messed up all my configurations I guess
[15:11] <rob0> phalor: actually Ubuntu 20.04 and later default to nftables, not iptables
[15:11] <phalor> rob0: Cool. :)  I just want UFW working :D
[15:12] <rob0> I don't know what ufw does, and cannot help with it.
[15:12] <phalor> UFW is Ubuntu's official firewall, developed by Canonical. It stands for Uncomplicated FireWall. Its a wrapper for iptables.
[15:12] <rob0> (As a #netfilter channel operator myself, we do not recommand using ufw.)
[15:13] <phalor> Well that's biased. :)
[15:13] <oerheks> UFW is fine standard for ubuntu
[15:14] <rob0> I'm all too familiar with ufw.  When people come to #netfilter with ufw questions we send them here.  And often #ubuntu sends them back to #netfilter :)
[15:14] <ogra> phalor, try asking in #netfilter
[15:14] <ogra> 😛
[15:14] <phalor> LMFAO
[15:14] <ogra> (j/k)
[15:14] <phalor> I was in there last night, they are a great lot.
[15:15] <oerheks> maybe your provider is blocking port 25
[15:15] <oerheks> which is oke
[15:15] <phalor> Nah, this is my own server.
[15:16] <phalor> How can I output iptables?
[15:16] <ogra> sudo iptables -L
[15:16] <rob0> yuck
[15:16] <phalor> Thanks
[15:16] <oerheks> 'any' isn't a valid port
[15:16] <rob0> iptables -L is useless
[15:17] <rob0> but again, I'm not going to help with ufw :)
[15:17] <rob0> To see iptables rules, "iptables-save -c"
[15:18] <rob0> phalor: what was the high level goal, to send mail outbound from your MTA?  Many providers do indeed block outbound port 25.
[15:18] <phalor> I have 1 temporary change to iptables actually. I just rebooted and will test it without the change.
[15:19] <phalor> rob0, it is to send it to my home server behind CG-NAT.
[15:19] <ogra> phalor, well, did you remove "port any" yet ? as jdstrand suggested above ?
[15:19] <phalor> Yes ogra, I figured it out myself: https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/o2KS7ms3ByYE.png
[15:20] <rob0> send "it", what is "it"?
[15:20] <phalor> my VPS
[15:20] <phalor> This problem is on my VPS
[15:21] <phalor> I am prerouting interface ens3 to send to my home server which is tunnled to the VPS.
[15:21] <phalor> I am wondering if this is causing a problem with UFW, though I think not. UFW shouldn't know.
[15:22] <phalor> ens3 is normally the VPS's WAN IP.
[15:22] <phalor> I am prerouting with iptables ense3 to 192.168.2.1
[15:22] <phalor> I am now going to test with without touching iptables. brb
[15:29] <phalor> Nup. The problem is 200% UFW
[15:30] <phalor> Did anyone actually look at my picture? It contains the commands I used for UFW, the user configuration file for UFW, and output of syslog showing what UFW is doing.
[15:30] <phalor> https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/o2KS7ms3ByYE.png
[15:31] <oerheks> why a picture .. txt is more convenient
[15:31] <phalor> Its easier to put it all together
[15:32] <NeilRG> how do I select the font weight in the console?
[15:33] <phalor> That IP address '157...' is an online port scanning website. iptables is successfully prerouting it through my WAN IP address to 192.168.1.1, but the firewall won't allow it?
[15:33] <phalor> Is this a bug?
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> not too many ufw bugs exist
[15:33] <phalor> sorry 192.168.2.1
[15:34] <phalor> lotuspsychje: Perhaps I have found one.
[15:34] <phalor> Could UFW be detecting the packet as being prerouted?
[15:34] <phalor> And blocking it?
[15:36] <oerheks> or your VPS..
[15:36] <phalor> No mate, its running a stock installation of Ubuntu Server 20.04 LTS.
[15:36] <phalor> I installed it myself
[15:37] <phalor> I was thinking earlier today maybe I should just use iptables, but UFW is a nice tool I was hoping to use.
[15:37] <Night-Owl-No-Sou> hello, i've "curl" program installed as snap on my system, i don't remember if i had it as indepen. for some other program - is there a way to know what program uses curl on the system? or what are the consequences if i removed curl?
[15:38] <phalor> This silence is making me feel better because I am starting to feel its not me.
[15:41] <phalor> I think its going to require a nerd with a laptop covered in distro stickers to solve this. lol
[15:41] <Night-Owl-No-Sou> i have a fireball cover on my laptop back
[15:42] <phalor> Night-Owl-No-Sou all good
[15:42] <phalor> I have a fireball sticker on the side door of my Honda :)
[15:43] <Night-Owl-No-Sou> let's just wait beside our fireball until someone answers our questions '=D
[15:47] <phalor> What is concerning is that it appears that it is Linux itself that is the problem. UFW just sets Linux and that is what it has done.
[15:49] <phalor> Actually UFW could be reporting wrong.
[16:01] <phalor> so i turned off UFW on the VPS and traffic hit my server at home fine.
[16:01] <phalor> PLEASE someone HELP!!! 1!
[16:02] <leftyfb> !patience | phalor
[16:02] <phalor> Okay
[16:05] <leftyfb> phalor: what is your issue exactly? Put it all one line and start with Ubuntu release, kernel, hardware installed on (local, hosted, VPS, etc) and the issue you're having with any pastebin'd error logs
[16:06] <phalor> Its really easy. I have set Ubuntu's firewall to let something through and its not letting it through: https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/o2KS7ms3ByYE.png
[16:07] <phalor> Its Ubuntu Server 20.04 LTS, stock.
[16:07] <phalor> Up to date, installed 2 days ago.
[16:07] <leftyfb> phalor: this is installed on what type of hardware?
[16:08] <phalor> leftyfb: I don't know
[16:08] <leftyfb> phalor: and why is that?
[16:08] <phalor> Once I disable the UFW service, it works.
[16:08] <phalor> leftyfb: Because its a VPS.
[16:08] <leftyfb> phalor: with what provider?
[16:08] <phalor> leftyfb: Don't worry. Thanks.
[16:09] <leftyfb> phalor: ok, good luck
[16:10] <Pwnna> what's multipathd and why is running with RT priority = 99?
[16:11] <leftyfb> Pwnna: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/device-mapper-multipathing-introduction
[16:11] <Pwnna> oh huh
[16:11] <Pwnna> can i disable it safely?
[16:11] <leftyfb> Pwnna: if you're not using it, yes
[16:11] <Pwnna> ok thanks. I'll need to give this a read
[16:11] <leftyfb> Pwnna: I would suggest masking the service to disable it
[16:12] <Pwnna> why not just systemctl disable it?
[16:12] <leftyfb> Pwnna: because future updates will re-enable it
[16:12] <Pwnna> ahh
[16:12] <Pwnna> ok thanks a lot
[16:26] <ogayot> phalor: in your screen capture, the IN and OUT interfaces are different. I don't have experience with ufw but IMO that seems to indicate that the traffic is blocked in the forwarding chains ; rather than the input chains
[16:27] <phalor> Thanks ogayot. I will study this now
[16:28] <phalor> Do you mean source and destination?
[16:29] <phalor> The first section of the screen shot is the command I used for UFW, the second section is the user settings file that resulted from running the command, and the third section is syslog.
[16:29] <phalor> the IN (source) and OUT (destination) are correct in syslog.
[16:30] <phalor> Oh, you mean "IN=ens3" and "OUT=ppp0".
[16:30] <phalor> It shouldn't be blocking anything in on interface 'ens3'.
[16:31] <phalor> 'from any' in the command I ran means from any IP address.
[16:32] <phalor> 'ens3' is the WAN IP address which I have set iptables to preroute it to 192.168.2.1.
[16:32] <phalor> When I switch off UFW, it does exactly that.
[16:32] <phalor> So iptables is ruled out
[16:33] <ogayot> yes, I meant IN=ens3 OUT=ppp0. Seems to be that ufw is blocking routing between these two interfaces.
[16:33] <phalor> Yes, but it shouldn't.
[16:36] <phalor> I wonder if there is a way to make UFW give debugging information
[16:38] <ogayot> phalor: can you pastebin the output of iptables -S -v ?
[16:42] <ogayot> $ ufw status verbose
[16:42] <ogayot> seems to be good too
[16:49] <phalor> ogayot here is the information you requested. Sorry I couldn't pastebin it. I am running it from Ubuntu Server without a GUI.
[16:49] <phalor> https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/BPhxiAw52oBl.png
[16:49] <rob0> phalor: in your brief visit to #netfilter you seem to have missed the channel /topic
[16:50] <urk> Just booted up, and don't see a login prompt with Pop_OS.  It worked earlier this morning.  All I see is a calendar and volumr control on the right.  Any udea how to fix this?
[16:50] <phalor> ogayot I will try that verbose command shortly. I am just reading the man page about logging.
[16:50] <rob0> Why would lack of GUI mean you can't make text pastebins?
[16:50] <rob0> is this something like vmware, with a console that lacks copy/paste ability?
[16:50] <phalor> rob0 I never see channel topics. :)
[16:50] <leftyfb> !popos | urk
[16:52] <leftyfb> phalor:    echo "do a thing" | nc termbin.com 9999   # this works without having to take screenshots or copy and paste
[16:52] <phalor> rob0 the terminal is not very practical. That's why Microsoft Windows is such a success. :)
[16:52] <rob0> If so (no copy from console) you could use SSH and connect with an ssh client.  Windows has openssh.
[16:52] <leftyfb> phalor: false
[16:52] <rob0> If you want help with doing more complex server tasks, you need to learn how to use a terminal.
[16:53] <phalor> lefyfb: Its better we not get into Windows vs Ubuntu debates. The channel will hate me.
[16:53]  * rob0 has nothing against Windows, especially since they added wsl.exe
[16:54] <phalor> rob0 what is wsl.exe again mate?
[16:54] <urk> ubottu:  pop_os is Ubuntu, and there is no dedicated channel here for pop_os.  Packages for this distribution come from Ubuntu repository.
[16:54] <urk> I'm running gnome.
[16:54] <phalor> rob0 and by the way. Microsoft burnt me in Windows 10 and I'll never buy another Microsoft product ever again.
[16:54] <phalor> Its support burnt me as well. But anway.
[16:54] <leftyfb> urk: sorry, we can only support official Ubuntu releases here. Not derivatives.
[16:55] <oerheks> urk,  sure there is..#System76
[16:55] <rob0> well, they make it hard to avoid buying Windows, if you want to buy a laptop.  That's how they caught me.
[16:55] <phalor> rob0 you win some you lose some- that's life.
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> offtopic rob0 phalor
[16:57] <rob0> Anyway phalor, I'd suggest first trying to get up to speed on basic user tasks.  Those skills will help you with more advanced server tasks.
[16:58] <phalor> rob0 I have all the neccessary skills I need to setup my goal. Once it is setup, I will never need to touch the server except for updates. :)
[16:59] <phalor> I had a look at UFW's logging levels. Increasing levels does not increase explanations, just logging policy.
[16:59] <leftyfb> phalor: if that were the case, you wouldn't be asking for help and taking screenshots
[16:59] <rob0> ^^ this
[17:00] <phalor> leftyfb: I haven't asked for help taking a screenshot. ;)
[17:00] <oerheks> why not paste as txt ?
[17:00] <oerheks> oh, you don't want to
[17:01] <phalor> oerheks correct. I don't find the command line very practical.
[17:01] <leftyfb> oerheks: because they do not possess the neccessary skills they need to setup their goal ;)
[17:02] <phalor> Some people enjoy typing out a command to unzip a file. I like just double clicking it.
[17:02] <ogayot> phalor: -P FORWARD DROP     <-- I'm confident ufw is configured to block routing
[17:03] <leftyfb> phalor: you're dealing with a publicly accessible server environment and particularly it's firewall rules. This isn't a zip file
[17:03] <phalor> ogayot. Hang on, let me check sysctl.
[17:04] <rob0> a DROP policy in FORWARD might not mean anything, if there are preceding rules to ACCEPT the packets which are wanted.
[17:07] <ogayot> true but I see no forward rules having -j ACCEPT for this kind of traffic (although I can't easily search from the screen capture)
[17:09] <phalor> ogayot I used the command 'ufw status verbose' that you suggested and found something of interest. It said it is denying 'routed'. Well, I don't know if you saw me say earlier, but the ens3 interface is prerouted. So it looks like this is where the problem is.
[17:10] <phalor> ogayot where did you find '-PFORWARD DROP'? From that iptables output?
[17:11] <ogayot> phalor: second line in your screen capture. And yes, if routed/forwarded traffic is dropped by default, you need a rule to accept it.
[17:11] <oerheks> phpaste the txt, much easier
[17:11] <oerheks> phalor ^
[17:12] <oerheks> see?
[17:12] <phalor> So now I need to know how to allow UFW to let through routed traffic.
[17:12] <phalor> UFW really needs to be enhanced to give this information in syslog.
[17:13] <phalor> I can't believe this.
[17:13] <leftyfb> phalor: ufw status verbose | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:14] <phalor> leftyfb: I don't want to use termbin because there information that can lead to sensitive information.
[17:14] <Joel> 20.04 lts, 3.5mm headset, any way to control comfort noise? For example, when I talk, I never hear my own voice in the speakers, so I end up yelling into the mic
[17:14] <leftyfb> phalor: false
[17:14] <phalor> phalor not false. You just don't know.
[17:14] <rob0> :)
[17:14] <leftyfb> phalor: I don't more than you think :)
[17:14] <phalor> leftyfb: We got to the bottom of the problem without termbin. This is all that matters. :)
[17:15] <oerheks> Joel, good thing yo don't hear your mic in your speakers; use a headset
[17:15] <Joel> oerheks might want to re-read what I said :)
[17:16] <phalor> I am going to take a break now. Be back in 10.
[17:17] <oerheks> Joel, because of your headset.. what program are you using?
[17:17] <Joel> getting comfort noise in a headset is a pretty normal thing. I'm using a 3.5m jack, it affects all programs.
[17:41] <phalor> Success
[17:42] <phalor> All I had to do was put the word 'route' after 'ufw'.
[17:42] <phalor> ogayot you're a legend mate!
[17:43] <phalor> UFW needs serious work
[17:43] <phalor> Canonical needs to stop wasting time with new logo's and fix docs
[17:43] <Joel> looks like I need the module-loopback with pulse audio.
[17:43] <phalor> And UFW needs to give reasons for its actions in syslog
[17:44] <phalor> I spent 24 hours on this, it could have been avoided. I'll never admit this to anyone in the Windows world, they'll laugh at me
[17:44] <phalor> Well, thanks everyone for your time and input.
[17:44] <phalor> and energy
[17:45] <phalor> Good bye
[17:48] <rob0> haha
[17:48] <oerheks> it could have been avoided. true. paste it.
[17:49] <giggles[m]> people in the Windows world deal with all sorts of stupid problems; the difference between stupid problems in Linux and Windows is that after wasting a day in Linux the problem is solved and after wasting a day in Windows you decide to live with the problem
[17:50] <rob0> And the only reason you waste so much time on it is when you refuse to heed good suggestions.
[17:51] <rob0> Much as I loathe to defend ufw, in this case the problem was the user, not ufw.
[17:52] <leftyfb> rob0: don't worry, they'll be back
[17:54] <rob0> no doubt, sigh
[17:57] <jhutchins> Clearly whoever is in charge should be notified.
[18:10] <vimes> hey guys not entirely an ubuntu quesiton, but how can i get hexchat to minimize to tray rather than quitting entirely when i close it top right?
[18:12] <leftyfb> vimes: first result on google for "hexchat minimize to tray" https://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/faq.html#how-do-i-minimize-hexchat-to-the-system-tray-notification-area
[18:20] <vimes> right, thanks for that i saw the alerts option mentioned there, but i dont see any switch to minimize to tray. the page mentions an extension, which also errors out during installation on 20.04
[18:23] <oerheks> don't use the X, use _ to minimize? also, settings > alerts > enable system tray icon/minimize to tray/close to tray is available
[18:23] <oerheks> the extention mentions is default installed, so ..
[18:25] <vimes> i dont see the setting in alerts for some reason. perhaps i need to reinstall hexchat.
[18:27] <oerheks> https://imgur.com/a/voRMzX1
[18:29] <vimes> https://i.imgur.com/64DSAsT.png
[18:30] <vimes> hmm definitely something funky on mine then
[18:30] <vimes> thanks oerheks
[18:38] <oerheks> are you still on 20.04?
[18:38] <vimes> yes
[18:39] <oerheks> oke, impish 21.10 gives 2.14.3, use the snap 2.14.2 ? https://snapcraft.io/hexchat
[18:39] <oerheks> or find the flatpak
[18:42] <vimes> sorry forgive my noobness. you mean i should downgrade to 2.14.2? i'm currently running 2.14.3
[18:42] <oerheks> what does cat /etc/issue # show?
[18:43] <oerheks> oh i see.. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hexchat
[18:43] <vimes> $ cat /etc/issue #
[18:43] <vimes> Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS \n \l
[18:44] <oerheks>  2.14.3-3ubuntu0.20.04.2  vs  2.14.3-6
[18:54] <vimes> okay! let me try that. gonna backup the serverlist and install the ubuntu 20.04 version
[19:02] <vimes> heh no luck with that. oh well, i tried. i'll just avoid closing the client i guess lol
[19:04] <kendar> Hello room, Running 20.04 lts server on install it is switching from my vga to dvi just after it starts up i got a adaptor from a second computer in the house.. but i cant leave it that way, what do i have to edit for it to stay on vga on bootup. for the most part this will be a headless server for files but as we all know sometimes we need access
[19:04] <kendar> to it directly... my google-fu as my wife calls it sucks.
[19:05] <oerheks> kendar, see if there are options in your Bios?
[19:06] <kendar> oerheks i have it set to only vga. .. but it seams to override it.
[19:06] <jhutchins> Are you running a GUI on a server?  If so, why?
[19:06] <jhutchins> kendar: ^
[19:07] <leftyfb> kendar: don't plug anything into the DVI port
[19:07] <kendar> jhutchins no i am not i cant even see the login screen i get the first few lines of bootup then it switches to the dvi
[19:07] <kendar> i have nothing pluged in and it still swatches
[19:08] <kendar> switches
[19:08] <oerheks> weird switch , check for a bios update?
[19:08] <jhutchins> If it's showing the first few lines of the boot process it's past the BIOS/EFI stage.
[19:08] <kendar> its a oddball board it runs a intel laptop chip in itx formfactor
[19:09] <ravage> kendar, can you get into grub console and enter "vbeinfo" ?
[19:09] <jhutchins> kendar: This is despite a valid VGA display being connected and nothing on the DVI?
[19:10] <kendar> ravage yes i can
[19:10] <ravage> can also be videoinfo
[19:10] <ravage> try both
[19:10] <kendar> jhutchins yep
[19:10] <ravage> it should output the devices it sees
[19:11] <kendar> never though of that hold on
[19:12] <jhutchins> kendar: I think I'd check for a BIOS/EFI update (even though it's getting past that stage).
[19:15] <kendar> so it does just the same thing it starts on the vga and then switches over to the dvi after the first 20 or so lines are displayed
[19:15] <oerheks> bios issue, my bet.
[19:15] <ravage> did you get the list of devices?
[19:16] <kendar> ravage witch devices?
[19:16] <ravage> when you enter that command in grub
[19:16] <ravage> it should output the devices it sees
[19:16] <kendar> ravage yes
[19:16] <kendar> one moment
[19:17] <ravage> something like VGA-1 and/or LCDS-1 HDMI-1
[19:24] <kendar> vbeinfo command not found  videoinfo i get 3 adapter  1. "bochs pci video drvier" 2. cirrus clgd 5446 pci video drver 3. efi gop driver , and i get 3 display modes for number 3
[19:24] <ravage> would have hoped for some names
[19:24] <ravage> but you say you only want VGA
[19:24] <kendar> tyah
[19:25] <ravage> so just try these kernel parameters and see if it changes anything: "video=VGA-1:e video=LVDS-1:d video=HDMI-1:d"
[19:25] <kendar> yah just incase i screw up some network settings and have to fix them at termail
[19:25] <ravage> maybe try them in grub first so you dont mess more up
[19:25] <ravage> put them in the config in case it works
[19:30] <NeilRG> I can't seem to get the powerline fonts to work in my console even though I've installed them, and I'm selecting them.  For some reason the lock symbol doesn't show up
[20:01] <kendar> ravage called a buddy that knows some stuff.. he said it could be my kvm causeing the prolbem do to the display not talking back to the system i am going to dig out a spare cable and see where that leads.. back in a few
[20:02] <jhutchins> kendar: Yeah, a KVM switch can prevent the "I'm here" signal from the monitor from reaching the video card.
[20:03] <jhutchins> Especially if it's a virtual switch that is supposed to detect which device is live, or one that switches via a keyboard command.
[20:03] <kendar> this kvm has been problematic since day 1
[20:04] <sem> i am getting an error at boot, "Failed to start Load AppArmor profiles". Investigating the app armor service, I see "Could not open '/var/lib/snapd/apparmor/snap-confine"
[20:05] <sem> does anyone know what those things are? Not having much luck on ddg
[20:06] <sem> what is snap-confine
[20:07] <sem> if I don't have snapd (lubuntu) can I just apt purge snapd?
[20:07] <sem> it says there's residual config when I apt search snapd
[20:08] <enigma9o7[m]> Yes.
[20:08] <enigma9o7[m]> But if its not installed it probably wont do much.
[20:09] <sem> awesome, that fixed the problem. Thanks!
[20:12] <sem> huh, might be related to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1825298
[20:15] <jhutchins> Especially if it's a virtual switch that is supposed to detect which device is live, or one that switches via a keyboard command.
[21:06] <kendar> happy to report is has something to do with the KVM .. and i found a solution to my problem i forgot my main display has a second input.. is not as elegant as i would like but meh it works lol
[22:43] <jongsta> can someone point me to instructions for downgrading an aws ubuntu kernel from 5.11 to 5.4?
[22:48] <Bashing-om> jongsta: I "assume" aws is same: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Ubuntu_18.04_LTS_-_Bionic_Beaver .
[22:51] <jongsta> Bashing-om: problem with a lot of these instructions is it assumes you are able to watch a boot screen and interrupt to change options there
[22:54] <Bashing-om> jongsta: Ouch - there is that - sorry that I did not think this through.
[22:55] <ogra> if you can boot the system and still have both kernels installed, just uninstall the one you dont want
[22:57] <enigma9o7[m]> I would install the one I want, modify grub config to make it default, boot into it, t hen remove the others jongsta
[22:57] <enigma9o7[m]> that woudlnt require interrupting boot
[22:57] <jongsta> ogra: part of my question is "how do i go about installing the right 5.4 kernel for ubuntu 20.04 in aws"
[22:58] <ogra> ah
[22:58] <jongsta> i can probably figure out how to remove the others but i also need to figure out how to set grub to boot the right kerenl
[22:58] <ogra> in /etc/default/grub ... there is GRUB_DEFAULT=
[22:59] <ogra> you change the number and run sudo update-grub ... it defaults to 0 ...
[23:01] <jongsta> how do i know which number corresponds with the right kernel version?
[23:02] <enigma9o7[m]> I personally use grub-customizer so never bothered to learn those details....
[23:03] <ogra> jongsta, you can use strings ... 🙂
[23:03] <jongsta> just tried intalling it
[23:03] <jongsta> but i'm using server so heh
[23:03] <ogra> it isnt limited to numbers
[23:04] <jongsta> how do i know what strings are valid?
[23:06] <ogra> take a look a /boot/grub/grub.cfg (do never edit it, this is generated !!) you are looking for "menuentry" entries
[23:07] <jongsta> i'm just cycling through with reboots and think i figured ito ut
[23:07] <ogra> risky but works too 🙂
[23:08] <jongsta> this is a test image so no biggie
[23:09] <ogra> https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/Simple-configuration.html
[23:09] <ogra> (about using strings)
[23:10] <jongsta> ah, that's helpful ogra, thanks
[23:24] <jongsta> i'm at #10 and still haven't gotten the proper kernel version to boot
[23:27] <robot56> why is ubuntu daily
[23:27] <robot56> so buggy
[23:27] <jongsta> i'm starting to think that cycling through numbers isn't working
[23:50] <enigma9o7[m]> You could try grub customizer, assuming you have x installed....
[23:50] <enigma9o7[m]> If you dont wanna keep messing around with reading docs
[23:51] <enigma9o7[m]> And robo, the reason it's buggy is it's not released yet, its specifically avaialble for testers to report bugs.  Released versions tend to have much shorter bug lists.
[23:53] <jongsta> enigma9o7[m]: i don't have x installed
[23:55] <enigma9o7[m]> ah ok.  Yeah then figuring out the correct synatx, good luck, I cant help cuz I'd have to look it up myself and without being able to trial and error I dunno.