[02:26] <andrew__> how to install gnome maps kde
[02:27] <andrew__> i mean install gnome ma ubuntu 22.04 daily
[02:28] <andrew__> how to check if i have a daily or beta build of ubuntu
[02:28] <mybalzitch> cat /etc/lsb-release
[02:28] <enigma9o7[m]> andrew: sudo apt install gnome-maps
[02:29] <enigma9o7[m]> to make sur enothing was weird I just insatlled it myself.  Was that really your question?
[02:30] <andrew__> yes
[02:30] <andrew__> but it does not say if it a daily or beta
[02:30] <andrew__> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[02:30] <andrew__> DISTRIB_RELEASE=22.04
[02:30] <andrew__> DISTRIB_CODENAME=jammy
[02:30] <andrew__> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu Jammy Jellyfish (development branch)"
[02:30] <andrew__> this is what it says
[02:30] <enigma9o7[m]> Well you should know if you've updated or not.
[02:30] <enigma9o7[m]> Who cares what you started with.
[02:30] <mybalzitch> thats the "beta"
[02:31] <enigma9o7[m]> pretty sure that's everyone
[02:33] <andrew__> i turn ubuntu 22.04 into vanilla gnome
[02:33] <andrew__> and suddently it become less user friendly
[02:34] <guiverc> andrew__, it'll say 'development' until it gets changed when jammy reaches RC state (ie. release candidate) and a package goes that that'll change it to 22.04 properly.  development refers to alpha & beta stages.
[02:34] <guiverc> RC is scheduled to occur on or AFTER 14-April-2021... ie. rather soon now
[02:35] <guiverc> release schedule for Ubuntu jammy can be found here - https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-schedule/23906
[02:36] <enigma9o7[m]> andrew, did you try that gnome maps you asked about?  i installed it myself and it seems bugged to me.... tells me im offline (I'm not) and when I type in the search field, every letter is repeated twice.... very strange behavior
[02:59] <andrew__> hey
[02:59] <andrew__> what more user friendly ubuntu 22.04 or debian 11
[03:02] <mybalzitch> define user friendly
[03:03] <enigma9o7[m]> I think Ubuntu's goal is to be more user friendly.
[03:03] <enigma9o7[m]> Although there were probably more differences back when ubuntu was starting out, they are now quite similar in many cases, but there are certainly some touches that ubuntu adds.
[03:04] <enigma9o7[m]> debians documentation and user base seems a bit more technical than ubuntus
[07:43] <pmjdebruijn>  hey, I'm trying to get autoinstall/cloud-init with nocloud working ,but it seems to ignore my config
[07:49] <ravage> pmjdebruijn, https://www.molnar-peter.hu/en/ubuntu-jammy-netinstall-pxe.html is the only decent post i could find about it. 
[07:49] <ravage> the official documentation is just useless really
[07:52] <pmjdebruijn> ravage: I gathered as much yes
[07:52] <pmjdebruijn> I've been googled my ass off as well :)
[07:52] <pmjdebruijn> googling*
[07:54] <pmjdebruijn> /var/lib/cloud/seed/nocloud/user-data is empty, so presumably it doesn't find my config
[07:54] <pmjdebruijn> though /cdrom/nocloud is present and referenced in /proc/cmdline
[07:56] <pmjdebruijn> doh, missing trailing '/'
[07:57] <ravage> heh
[07:57] <ravage> yes that is a common mistake :D
[07:57] <pmjdebruijn> also, cloud-init analyse show/dump, it less useful than just looking at the logs mysdelf
[07:58] <ravage> yes the webserver log is the best way to debug
[07:58] <ravage> you also see the missing / there
[07:58] <pmjdebruijn> I'm integration it on the "cdrom" :)
[07:58] <ravage> oh ok :
[07:58] <ravage> never tried that
[07:59] <pmjdebruijn> presumably the '/' isn't implied so people can have multiple cloud configs by passing a nondirectory prefix along
[08:18] <pmjdebruijn> also, it seems you can preseed a interactive dialog's option, without automating it entirely
[08:19] <pmjdebruijn> so it's either fully automated, or empty and user driven
[08:19] <pmjdebruijn> with d-i, you could setup partitioning from preseed, but still give the user the oppertunity to modify
[08:20] <pmjdebruijn> subiquity feels like it's years behind d-i
[08:21] <pmjdebruijn> for example, it seems I can't automate the user accounts, without also being forced to automate the hostname
[08:29] <ravage> TLDR: yes it sucks :)
[12:40] <bittin> afternoon
[18:58] <new_leap> how would I figure out what's going wrong when every single time my screen (laptop) turns off, that the screen never comes back (also doesn't work on 20.04)
[19:00] <guigui64> Hello everyone, I am experiencing extremely slow speed with my Atheros AR93xx Wireless Network Adapter (driver ath9k) since I upgraded to 22.04. Previously, I had a >100Mbps bandwidth, now I have 10Mbps...
[20:44] <enigma9o7[m]> gnome-maps doesn't seem to work for me.  Is it just me?  It thinks its offline (when it's not). https://i.imgur.com/5SKKcVN.png 
[22:14] <rfm> I'm running jammy in a virtualbox VM.  On the login screen, the "gear" icon for selecting session type isn't there.  Is this on purpose? (I would like to go back to X.org since the vbox additions still have problems with Wayland.)  
[22:18] <oerheks> echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE # shows if you run wayland or xorg, my bet; xorg
[22:20] <rfm> definitely running wayland (I grepped through ps and found wayland running but X.org not)
[22:23] <rfm> was able to force xorg by editing /etc/gdm3/custom.conf but still odd the session menu is gone
[22:35] <enigma9o7[m]> There is a session menu....  
[22:38] <enigma9o7[m]> but it gets bigger than the screen so i switched to sddm
[22:45]  * enigma9o7[m] uploaded an image: (100KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/zrvNPVHwVOBWLvOxxIaLDQlX/Screenshot%20from%202022-02-08%2019-37-09.png >
[22:45] <enigma9o7[m]> I could never figure out how to scroll up and down it once it got bigger than what I could click on.  The keyboard doesnt work, mouse scrollwheel doesnt work.
[22:46] <enigma9o7[m]> perhaps this is fixed by now tho, that was in february, and i've switched to sddm since so dunno if its fixed in current.