[13:03] <xu-help62w> how do I download new software
[13:05] <tomreyn> xu-help62w: you use the package management software
[13:06] <tomreyn> https://docs.xubuntu.org/current/user/C/managing-applications.html
[13:06] <xu-help62w> what do I click on to get started
[13:07] <tomreyn> the link i just posted, then you read
[13:08] <tomreyn> i think you can also access help by just pressing F1 at any time
[13:08] <tomreyn> the online help, that is
[13:11] <xu-help62w> getting there but can't find lilypond music writing software
[13:12] <oerheks> info lilypond
[13:12] <oerheks> !info lilypond
[13:12] <xu-help62w> f1 does nothing'
[13:13] <oerheks> it is available, make sure you have universe enabled in software settings
[13:14] <xu-help62w> yes! I do a lot of music arranging & lost my Sibielius
[13:18] <xu-help62w> can't find software setttings
[13:22] <xu-help62w> I got this far, But don't know how to do it, Step 1. Create your ‘.ly’ file
[13:22] <xu-help62w> Create a text file called ‘test.ly’ with the following contents.
[13:22] <xu-help62w>     \version "2.22.2"
[13:22] <xu-help62w>     {
[13:22] <xu-help62w>       c' e' g' e'
[13:22] <xu-help62w>     }
[13:24] <xu-help62w> how do I create my own ' ly' file?
[13:25] <xu-help62w> how do I get to the command line?
[13:30] <xu-help62w> Drone - I see what you are saying, but don't know what to do with it!
[13:32] <xu-help62w> I am 69 years old & have Parkinson's disease. I am used to Windows
[13:39] <xu-help62w> tomreyn I clicked the link & found Gnome, but lilypad is not in the list
[13:42] <xu-help62w> where is the command line
[13:43] <tomreyn> xu-help62w: you can run "terminal" from the applications menu
[13:44] <tomreyn> then you get a shell, where you can type commands
[13:44] <tomreyn> !terminal | xu-help62w 
[13:45] <xu-help62w> it says "failed to execute child"
[13:51] <tomreyn> what is "it"?
[13:51] <tomreyn> did the terminal window open fine, or is that when the error happened already?
[13:52] <xu-help62w> the terminal command-line
[13:52] <tomreyn> so was the "failed to execute child" message something written in the terminal window after you ran a command?
[13:53] <xu-help62w> I went to Applications Menu, Terminal Emulator
[13:53] <tomreyn> or did the terminal window not even open, but a pop-up message showed instead, bearing this text?
[13:54] <xu-help62w> tomreyn - whenever I go to the terminal window, it has this popup over it
[13:54] <tomreyn> and you can't access the terminal window at all then?
[13:54] <tomreyn> or can you, after confirming this message?
[13:55] <xu-help62w> It is behind the popup, but i have to make it happy first1
[13:55] <xu-help62w> !'
[13:55] <xu-help62w> how do I confirm the messsage
[13:56] <tomreyn> i do not know, don't think i've seen this one
[13:56] <tomreyn> can you take and post a screenshot?
[13:56] <tomreyn> you can upload it to imgur.com
[13:56] <xu-help62w> I hit close instead of the X it worked!
[13:57] <tomreyn> which xubuntu version are you using? you can type this in terminal:  lsb_release -ds
[13:58] <tomreyn> copy / paste should also work
[13:58] <tomreyn> you may need to press ctrl-shift-v to insert in the terminal.
[13:59] <xu-help62w> i can't type in terminal
[13:59] <tomreyn> What happens if you press ALTF+F2 and type: xfce4-terminal
[14:13] <xu-help62w> tomreyn - I have to go to work now - I should be back in about 4 hours. & will get you a screenshot
[14:14] <xu-help62w> Thank you all! I copied your chats & it is all good info!
[17:50] <Johnson> Anyone around here?
[17:52] <orqcxha> Kinda
[17:52] <orqcxha> hi
[17:52] <Johnson> Fair enough.
[17:53] <Johnson> No worries. I'll just keep reading wikis and manuals.
[17:53] <orqcxha> Why, whats happening
[17:56] <Johnson> Oh, just having a rough time figuring out how to play windows apps using wine.
[18:00] <orqcxha> have you tried winetricks
[18:01] <orqcxha> Some apps may need additional stuff
[18:01] <orqcxha> also some games may be better with proton etc.
[18:01] <orqcxha> Hard to tell without more information
[18:02] <Johnson> I haven't heard of proton. Thanks!
[18:02] <orqcxha> Are you trying to run games?
[18:02] <orqcxha> There's also lutris 
[18:03] <orqcxha> And https://appdb.winehq.org/ may have specific things about your app
[18:03] <Johnson> I thought I'd play a few games as a good start. 
[18:05] <orqcxha> If you dont mind DRM I'd suggest to use steam/proton. Almost everything I tried just works.
[18:05] <orqcxha> But there are loads of native things too
[18:06] <orqcxha> Like I love to play https://www.openra.net/
[18:06] <Johnson> I'll probably try those out later.
[18:08] <orqcxha> Well good luck. Not many chat in here by the way and if you have trouble its usually better to ask specific stuff
[18:08] <Johnson> Well, it's been about 15 years since I used linux, so I'm mostly getting use to it, again.
[18:09] <orqcxha> Nice!
[18:09] <orqcxha> Lot has happened in 15 years
[18:09] <orqcxha> Some for the better some for the worse
[18:10] <Johnson> Yeah, it has. I haven't seen too many negatives.
[18:11] <orqcxha> why did you choose xubuntu specifically
[18:12] <Johnson> Because, I bought a student laptop really cheep at a junk store and Google ChromeOS made me want to throw it across the room.
[18:13] <orqcxha> My laptop is weak and cheap too so I wanted something with xfce too
[18:14] <Johnson> Yeah. That's exactly why I choose xubuntu. My research pointed at this being a good choice.
[18:16] <Johnson> Also, the students in my study hall at my current job have no clue how to use linux.
[18:44] <Johnson> Hey. Thanks for chatting. Have a great day!
[19:01] <tomreyn> supposedly, lutris and steam are often a good enough way to play windows games on *buntu
[19:03] <orqcxha> yeah but i rarely play games any more honestly
[19:06] <tomreyn> i just thought i'd hint on those here in case Johnson would be back
[19:06] <orqcxha> i recommended those too haha
[19:06] <orqcxha> but lot of the times just pure wine works too honestly
[19:10] <tomreyn> whoops, i overread this