=== JoeyeS is now known as Guest6501 === Guest6501 is now known as POLO === POLO is now known as Polo === JoeyeS is now known as POLO === Vercas5 is now known as Vercas === diskin_ is now known as diskin [02:54] morning. trying to update Ubuntu. but: 404 Not Found [IP: 143.204.98.64 443] [02:54] Err:18 https://packages.o1test.net jammy/stable all c-n-f Metadata [02:55] !next | rawpenguin [02:55] rawpenguin: Jammy Jellyfish is the codename for Ubuntu 22.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. [03:28] morning. installing php on Jammy. Running the build in server. when checking address, i get the 'choose an application to open the localhost link'. What am i missing? [03:29] !next | rawpenguin [03:29] rawpenguin: Jammy Jellyfish is the codename for Ubuntu 22.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. [03:29] hi bot [03:30] rawpenguin: please stop asking for support with versions of ubuntu that are still under development. You are already in #ubuntu-next and have asked the same question. Be patient and someone there might be able to help you. This is not the appropriate place to ask for help with 22.04 === jo-erlend_ is now known as jo-erlend [04:29] For info: [rt.ubuntu.com #61049] WIKI authentication restored :D [05:18] @bar(input):button1 === diskin is now known as Guest1251 === diskin_ is now known as diskin === diskin is now known as Guest6286 === diskin_ is now known as diskin [06:13] what's the proper way to add a user who's only purpose is to run a single application I.e. the user apache [06:26] NetEcho: are you asking for ubuntu desktop or -server, whats the full story of your purpose? maybe with more details volunteers can enlight more ideas === Polo is now known as Guest5798 [06:40] lotuspsychje: Ubuntu Server, I'm setting up a media server with several applications that it's been suggested the daemons run as their own user with access to /var/lib/daemon [06:43] in past I've just ran them as my normal user and had them use /home/myuser/.daemon for their data storage but this time around I'd like to do it correctly === Guest5798 is now known as Polo === Polo is now known as Guest8342 [07:23] dmesg: read kernel buffer failed: Operation not permitted. AFAIR before 22.04 dmesg worked without sudo, am i wrong? [07:26] looks like yes [07:27] yes what? [07:27] it works without sudo [07:27] in 20.04 [07:43] what library would you recommend for real-time audio? [07:44] currently using rodio, but it seems to be more playback oriented than real-time [07:44] drewbert: you could start a topic in #ubuntu-discuss if you like [07:44] oh wrong channel, my b [07:45] jitter free, warm lamp sound? === Guest6678 is now known as POLO === tom is now known as Guest3566 === EriC^ is now known as Guest2579 === tom is now known as Guest3465 === Guest3465 is now known as tfree === ledeni__ is now known as ledeni === polve2 is now known as polve [11:30] hi [11:31] if I install Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta (Jammy Jellyfish) BETA how would I upgrade once 22.04 is actually released? [11:31] would I just use apt update;apt upgrade for this and it would work? [11:32] I'm just wondering if I can go ahead and install it or if I should wait [11:32] this is for a desktop (not a server) [11:36] zacts, when released you will get the full version [11:36] I don't understand [11:36] can I go ahead and install BETA and apt upgrade will upgrade automatically when it's released? [11:37] yes [11:37] thanks [11:37] no need to de extra steps [11:37] have fun! [11:39] I hope you don't mind me asking an off topic questioin. Long story short, I have my own VPN server in another country. I used a very old laptop to set it up. It works fine, but I was wondering, if I changed the hardware (and honestly any Raspberry Pi is better than what I have), using the same internet connection, would that help increasing the speed of my VPN? === mrkubax101 is now known as mrkubax10 [11:45] faster hardware would save time encrypt your data, but this is a minor part [11:55] oerheks, so it's not worth it? [12:04] ok, thank you oerheks [12:04] bye [12:04] thanks oerheks [12:25] Hi all === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje === _filename is now known as filename [16:14] Should [16:51] Hi. I'm using Ubuntu bionic. I have an issue with Thunderbird and the calendar options, the current time (which also affects event notifications as well as display) is off by an hour. The system time and timezone is correct (`date` shows correct time and timezone) any ideas how to fix this? we switched to daylight saving recently, somehow it seems thunderbird is stuck in winter time [16:52] wrong time zone setting, I guess [16:53] oh, only in tbuird? strange [16:53] preferences -> calendar -> timezone [16:54] maybe it has its own TZ setting independent of ^^ [16:54] Also if started from an environment with a TZ setting, that would do it. [16:55] "TZ=US/Pacific thunderbird" at the command line or in the shortcut to start it [16:55] oh, but actually i see that same issue [16:58] actually no, not an issue here, sorry. [16:58] CorvusCorax: did setting the timezone in thunderbird help then? [17:02] no. i checked, in TB the timezone is set to "Europe/Berlin" - which is the correct timezone. except this should imply GMT+2 in summer and GMT+1 in winter. and it seems to be stuck on GMT+1 [17:02] the only enries in the dropdown list are of the form Continent/City ... there's no manual GMT+X daylight saving independent entries [17:03] open calendar and click on synchronize on the top left, then close calendar and open it again - did this help? [17:04] how do you tell what calendar thinks is the current time? [17:05] the calendar displays a red bar on the current day at the current time for NOW [17:05] that is off by an hour [17:05] and i did click on synchronize [17:05] could the TB instance have been running continually since before the time change? [17:05] no, i did reboot [17:05] let me check something [17:06] ok fun, i switched the timezone in TB to a different timezone, which was displayed correctly, and then back to Europe/Berlin. now its correct [17:06] i can reproduce this (or a ifferent?) issue like follows: open tasks, click on synchronize, open calendar, switch to day view if needed, check current time - it is incorrect. click on synchronize, current time is now correct. [17:06] that seems to be a bug in TB. it seems to update DS only when the timezone is changed [17:07] Thunderbug! :) [17:07] which thunderbird version are you using there? [17:07] 91.7.0 here [17:07] 91.5.0 [17:08] well i have the 91.7.0+build2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 deb from bionic-updates [17:08] i'm running apt update right now to see if theres a newer one [17:09] this sounds like you are not installing security updates, or not regularly. but since my version is also buggy it won't fix *this* issue anyways. [17:09] !info thunderbird bionic [17:10] thunderbird (1:91.7.0+build2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1, bionic): Email, RSS and newsgroup client with integrated spam filter. In component main, is optional. Built by thunderbird. Size 54,218 kB / 225,860 kB [17:10] apt policy thunderbird may help you diagnose this [17:10] update updates to 91.7 now [17:10] so i just hadn't updated in a while [17:11] btw whats the easiest way to show the update history for a package (and previous versions, in case an upgrade broke something) [17:11] i see. this original -security upgrade has since migrated to -updates, so it must have been out for a while [17:11] apt changelog thunderbird [17:12] weird, the -security stuff should have at some point installed with unattended upgrades [17:12] or, if you're referring to when it was installed on your system, see /var/log/apt/history.log and term.log [17:12] no, i meant the changelog [17:13] which server have you configured to receive security updates from? [17:14] http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [17:14] do i need to switch that to archive? [17:15] hmm that's fine, it will have to be an issue with how often your system checks for security updates then [17:15] switch to which archive? [17:15] http://archive.ubuntu.com [17:15] no, security updates should be retrieved from security.ubuntu.com [17:16] ok, then thats setup correctly. but its possible i had unattended upgrades disabled. gotta check that [17:16] still i thought i had done the latest manual update more recently than January [17:18] no, unattended updates service is running and /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades has security enabled [17:18] this should have installed [17:18] weird [17:22] is there a logfile for the unattended upgrades to debug that? [17:22] yes, at the expected location [17:23] /var/log/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrades.log [17:23] unattended-upgrades is triggered by a systemd-timer [17:23] systemctl list-timers apt* === blb814574 is now known as CultusFerox [17:37] unattended-upgrade is one of the first things I purge after installation [18:08] ping asf === dionysus70 is now known as dionysus69 [19:22] hey [19:52] Hay is off-topic here, please join #horses [19:53] Hi guys! Need advice. My RTL8821ce adapter ,time to time is unable to connect to wireless network. I suspect system powersave options. When this happens, i see the following in dmesg log. It looks like, it sees the wifi networks, but it can't assoc. to. My NetworkManager system tray icon just spinning inititively and nothing happens. [19:53] [ 194.295800] rtl8821ce 0000:01:00.0: AMD-Vi: Event logged [IO_PAGE_FAULT domain=0x0009 address=0xdfeec000 flags=0x0000] [19:53] [ 194.295814] rtl8821ce 0000:01:00.0: AMD-Vi: Event logged [IO_PAGE_FAULT domain=0x0009 address=0xdfeec030 flags=0x0000] [19:56] XATRIX: Does it show power management on in results for iwconfig [19:58] Jeremy31: currently it's: Power Management:off [19:58] But i can't check it right now. [19:58] Need to wait for this bug to come out again [20:02] XATRIX: what number does this show> cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf [20:21] XATRIX: what number does this show> cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf [20:23] tomreyn: Hi again dude! glad to see you :) [20:23] it gives me '3' [20:23] XATRIX: Also consider that it could be your AP that's causing the problem. [20:24] Nope. my previous laptop did good. no problem with other devices [20:24] does is only happen when the laptop went through a suspend / resume cycle? [20:25] how is the rtl8821ce driver installed that you're using? [20:25] and hi to you, too, XATRIX ;-) [20:26] tomreyn: no, i don't use suspend/hibernate as for now. simply poweroff. [20:26] [xatrix@MERNOV-NB ~]$ dkms status [20:26] rtl8821ce, 5.5.2.1, 5.13.0-39-generic, x86_64: installed [20:26] jhutchins: possibly, but to me IO_PAGE_FAULT sounds more like a driver bug. [20:27] hi. will 22.04 be released on 21st April exactly? [20:27] apt list --installed rtl8821ce-dkms [20:27] I chose this driver in the ubuntu propietary drivers dialog [20:27] ok [20:28] https://imgur.com/5MZFnxw.png [20:28] this one [20:28] yes, this answers my previous question. [20:29] https://github.com/tomaspinho/rtl8821ce is a newer version of this driver. [20:31] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rtl8821ce/+bug/1904177 reports the same issue, though here it's related to suspend. there's a chance that you didn't actually notice the laptop went through suspend though [20:31] Launchpad bug 1904177 in rtl8821ce (Ubuntu) "rtl8821ce fails to restart network when coming out of suspend" [Undecided, Confirmed] [20:32] tomreyn: em..i [20:32] journalctl -b | fgrep ' PM: ' | nc termbin.com 9999 [20:32] XATRIX: what number does this show> cat /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf [20:32] i'm sure it goes poweroff. i don't send it to suspend [20:33] 3 [20:33] XATRIX: in terminal> sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 3/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf [20:34] That will prevent Network Manager from enabling wifi power management on its own [20:34] after next reboot, i assume [20:35] Yes [20:36] wifi auto-powersave is the most annoying feature I can think of [20:36] If the PC is idle long enough for it to kick in, why not auto-suspend? Why disable the one module/etc that is almost guaranteed to be needed/in use [20:39] Jeremy31: is it permanent ? Or do i have to set in on each restart ? [20:39] it's permanent [20:40] XATRIX: That is permanent until you change it back to a 3 [20:40] Cool [20:40] you changed the configuration file [20:40] I don't think WF powersave save much batter power [20:40] Ah..right [20:41] note that you will need to reboot or restart network manager to apply the change [20:41] No problem, will test it tomorrow [20:41] XATRIX: you could also edit /usr/src/rtl8821ce-5.5.2.1/Makefile and change line 52 to CONFIG_POWER_SAVING = n [20:41] emm..not a good idea i guess, to change something in code here [20:42] Next update , and i'll loose the changes or whatever [20:42] XATRIX: The kernel you have installed now wont be affected, the next one will see the change [20:43] Alright, i'll test the conf changes, if it won't work, i'll change the code [20:43] XATRIX: save the command and just swap the 3 and 2 to reverse it [20:44] yeap [20:44] thanks for the help guys! [20:44] later [20:44] apparently the power saving cofiguration *may* also be stored in an existing connection profile. so you might want / ned to delete the wireless network configuration and re-create it. unless Jeremy31 knows better? [20:45] Change one thing at a time. [20:46] Also, i have some mess up with bluetooth on this laptop. I guess my Wifi adapater is a part of. I think it's combined with WF/BT [20:46] https://pastebin.com/Zy77q6gk [20:48] XATRIX: do you ever use BT? [20:49] this should be set to 0 for your hotspot (here: My_WiFi_Hotspot_Name): nmcli connection show My_WiFi_Hotspot_Name | grep ^802-11-wireless.powersave [20:49] i mean for your wireless connection profile [20:50] 802-11-wireless.powersave: 0 (default) [20:50] 802-11-wireless.powersave: 0 (default) [20:50] Jeremy31: yeap [20:50] BT stereo phones [20:51] File transfer mobile phone -> laptop [20:51] time to time 3G/LTE mobile modem [20:53] XATRIX: what result for> cat /sys/modules/rtl8821ce/paramaters/rtw_btcoex_enable [20:54] cat: /sys/modules/rtl8821ce/paramaters/rtw_btcoex_enable: No such file or directory [20:55] maybe it's called slightly differently? modinfo -p rtl8821ce | grep coex [20:56] rtw_btcoex_enable:BT co-existence on/off, 0:off, 1:on, 2:by efuse (int) [20:56] oh there's a typo in parameters [20:56] oh there's a typo in "parameters" [20:57] cat /sys/modules/rtl8821ce/parameters/rtw_btcoex_enable [20:57] It is /sys/module [20:57] cat: /sys/modules/rtl8821ce/parameters/rtw_btcoex_enable: No such file or directory [20:57] It is set to 2 by default [20:58] Pair o' 'maters! Yum! [20:58] cat /sys/module/rtl8821ce/parameters/rtw_btcoex_enable [21:01] XATRIX: you could test different setting of the btcoex but it will disconnect wifi for a few seconds> sudo modprobe -r rtl8821ce && sleep 5 && sudo modprobe rtl8821ce rtw_btcoex_enable=0 # then change the 0 to 1 for the second test [21:01] tomreyn: 2 [21:01] Ok, let's try [21:05] So, now, i have some segfaults in dmesg. But i was able to connect to wireless. And now my NetworkManager system tray indicator shows me no signal to. But the link works pretty well [21:05] I can check it with 'iwconfig' - it tells me 72Mb\s [21:06] Still 'hcitool dev' says me i have no BT [21:07] XAT: URL from terminal for> lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999 [21:07] https://termbin.com/7m4x [21:08] But i'm sure it's not a usb-controller [21:08] It's a WF/BT mini-Pciex laptop interface [21:09] XAT: try a reboot, most of the integrated BT are on the USB bus even if the wifi is PCI(e) [21:10] Ah..sorry then. Din't know it [21:10] ok.. restarting === xenial is now known as xenialito [21:13] there was a BT fix for 8821ce https://github.com/tomaspinho/rtl8821ce/issues/19#issuecomment-452196840 .. [21:13] Issue 19 in tomaspinho/rtl8821ce "Bluetooth not working [0bda:b00a]" [Closed] [21:13] as BT might be detected as lmp_subver=8221 & hci_ref=000c. [21:13] Ok, restarted 2 times, because of i had AMD-Vi: Event logged [IO_PAGE_FAULT again [21:13] time times in a row [21:14] Now my NM indicator works well, it shows the singal power. I have a connection. Iwconfig says power management:off [21:14] Still no BT [21:15] XATRIX: You might need to power it down as for some reason no BT device showed in lsusb [21:16] Also, there's a problem with a backlight. After we fixed an amdgpu drivers, i'm able to control the backlight. But after the restart of a laptop, my BL is on MAX level. If i try to change it, it does. [21:16] Jeremy31: sorry ? [21:17] XATRIX: Complete power off instead of a reboot [21:17] Ahh [21:17] Alright. I'll try now [21:19] Also, i have a kernel string param in grub: pci=noaer [21:20] XATRIX: I don't think that would do it. It might be a bad connection between the wifi card and the motherboard [21:20] still hcitool dev says no devices [21:21] Tab completion is your friend. [21:21] Jeremy31: it's a new laptop, never been disassembled [21:21] XATRIX: Might try a BIOS reset to defaults. [21:22] Did it a few days ago, after firmware upgrade [21:22] I still think that the trouble is in rtl8821ce driver [21:23] it's a modern WF/BT interface. So i think it has some bugs in [21:25] XATRIX: I will still expect to see the BT part in lsusb results [21:25] lspci .. [21:26] sorry. https://termbin.com/i3us [21:27] 01:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8821CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter [21:27] lspci [21:31] Still no BT device shown. I am not sure why [21:32] XATRIX: ooc what does this say: dmesg | grep 'RTL: rtl:' [22:19] I wanna freshly install some Ubuntu MATE machines as soon as 22.04 is released. if I install the pre-release now - will that just transition into being the mainline version in a few days, or should I expect major hiccups? [22:19] if you will run sudo apt full-upgrade it will. [22:20] (after sudo apt update) [22:20] or, for automation, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [22:20] !next | ldericher [22:20] ldericher: Jammy Jellyfish is the codename for Ubuntu 22.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. [22:28] The stable version of Ubuntu 22.04 is scheduled to be released on April 21, 2022.