| en11gma | i have been coming and warning this channel for 2 weeks with a severe bug. | 00:22 |
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| en11gma | X570 motherboard, 5600x cpu and 3060 ti gpu. | 00:22 |
| en11gma | when booting from any ubuntu 22.04 daily image after 03-28-22 with amd64 i get a WHITE SCREEN AT DESKTOP!!! | 00:23 |
| en11gma | i have been telling everyone of you in here. | 00:23 |
| en11gma | when i switch my 3060 ti out for a 1060 it does not do this. | 00:23 |
| en11gma | the 03-28-22 image does not do this and has normal behavior | 00:23 |
| hggdh | en11gma: did you open a bug on it? | 00:24 |
| en11gma | the final 22.04 release is 4 days away... well less then that as in 4:36mins it will be midnight here | 00:24 |
| en11gma | i came here and been telling all you | 00:24 |
| hggdh | <shrug/> | 00:24 |
| en11gma | this is a severe bug and no one has opened up a bug report on it? | 00:24 |
| en11gma | im just saying its pretty big | 00:25 |
| en11gma | this is when booting from live usb | 00:25 |
| hggdh | en11gma: The best route is to open a bug | 00:25 |
| en11gma | 'in case someone wants to pass it on' | 00:25 |
| en11gma | or come to the channel for this release and tell them which i have been doing over and over and over and over for last 2 weeks | 00:25 |
| en11gma | does this channel even talk to the devs? | 00:26 |
| hggdh | not necessarily, no. Some devs may be present, but I would not rely on it. | 00:26 |
| en11gma | well hopefully someone passes it on. i try every daily release avail and its the same thing. only thing that fixes it is when i go back and write 03-28-22 image. | 00:27 |
| en11gma | then it works as it should from live usb | 00:27 |
| en11gma | im betting this bug affects all 30xx series cards | 00:27 |
| en11gma | REQ: anyone with a 30xx series card write the ubuntu daily 22.04 amd64 image to usb and boot into live enviroment | 00:28 |
| en11gma | i get white screen. when i remove my 3060 ti and put in a 1060 3GB it works fine | 00:29 |
| en11gma | ok im out. 4 days to go until launch. have a good one! | 00:29 |
| en11gma | bye | 00:29 |
| ravage | you have to love a good ultimatum | 00:30 |
| ravage | fix my problem that im too lazy to report or i will.... not install your free product. take that! | 00:31 |
| mybalzitch | rip us. | 00:50 |
| Pinchiukas_ | I just found that grub-pc is not available for i386 in jammy. Why is that? | 07:55 |
| Pinchiukas_ | Does even have efi-related packages but not the bios one: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=jammy&arch=i386&searchon=names&keywords=grub | 07:55 |
| guiverc | The last i386 ISOs were produced in the disco/19.04 cycle; why would it be needed? | 07:59 |
| Pinchiukas_ | For me! :) Deboostrapping jammy on ancient hw. | 07:59 |
| guiverc | I've installed jammy on boxes as old as from 2005 without issue; all being amd64 CPUs though | 08:00 |
| lotuspsychje | try a nice light lubuntu Pinchiukas_ | 08:01 |
| guiverc | i386 was turned off pre-release of eoan (19.10)... the only i386 with support now is 18.04 LTS | 08:01 |
| Pinchiukas_ | This box is supposedly 2008. But it has a i386 cpu. | 08:05 |
| Pinchiukas_ | Dang... I'm really not a fan of the idea to install 18.04. | 08:06 |
| guiverc | intel atoms were i386 produced into 2007 I'm aware of (some sold into 2008) | 08:06 |
| guiverc | intel atom n270 being i386; later atoms were amd64 | 08:07 |
| Pinchiukas_ | This is a thin client with a VIA cpu. | 08:07 |
| Pinchiukas_ | HP T5530 | 08:07 |
| guiverc | You may need Debian given i386 support in Ubuntu now is mostly 2nd architecture (for steam or other packages on amd64 cpu) | 08:08 |
| guiverc | Pinchiukas_, I tested Debian 11 on pentium 4, pentium M boxes, even n270 intel atom I mentioned in i386 | 08:09 |
| Pinchiukas_ | That might be the way to go, then. But how long will 11 be supported? Seems their support cycles are shorter. | 08:11 |
| guiverc | Debian LTS is 5 years which is ~same as Ubuntu LTS is.... Debian LTS isn't all packages, just like Ubuntu isn't either (ie. 'main' is 5 years...).... | 08:11 |
| lotuspsychje | or stick to 18.04 Pinchiukas_ and consider !ESM if its really important? | 08:12 |
| guiverc | but Debian is off-topic here; this is Ubuntu support so ask on a Debian room if interested | 08:12 |
| lotuspsychje | Pinchiukas_: https://ubuntu.com/security/esm | 08:19 |
| howarth | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1969243 | 09:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1969243 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Jammy) "gdm 42.0-1ubuntu4 no longer shows Wayland option" [Critical, Fix Released] | 09:16 |
| howarth | "* Please note that Wayland is not currently available for | 09:17 |
| howarth | systems using the Nvidia graphics drivers because those drivers | 09:17 |
| howarth | don't properly handle suspend and resuming from suspend. It is | 09:17 |
| howarth | intended for those drivers to be fixed in a future stable release | 09:17 |
| howarth | update for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. See bug 1968929" | 09:17 |
| ubottu | Bug 1968929 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "No Wayland support on my NVIDA laptop" [Medium, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1968929 | 09:17 |
| howarth | What is Ubuntu's definition of a 'stable release update' in this case regarding Nvidia driver support for Wayland? Does this imply, as I fear, an update only after the fix has been deployed in another full Ubuntu release? If so, this would imply that we won't have Nvidia Wayland support until 22.10 is released. | 09:17 |
| ravage | 22.04.1 for example | 09:17 |
| ravage | its says stable release update for 22.04 | 09:17 |
| howarth | which would be only after a 22.10 release | 09:17 |
| howarth | So no Wayland on Nvidia until Oct 2022 | 09:18 |
| ravage | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-schedule/23906 | 09:18 |
| howarth | Again, .01 LTS releases only occur after the next stable release | 09:19 |
| howarth | So basically, this is going to be treated like transitions to a new major kernel release and only occur after testing in 22.10? Also, actually I misspoke. The restoration of Wayland support for Nvidia wouldn't be 10/2022. It would be more likely 02/2023. | 09:31 |
| ravage | i have no idea what you are talking about. schedule shows 22.04.1 in august this year. and if there is a solution that does not require any major changes im sure it will be done before | 09:33 |
| ravage | it makes no sense to release wayland to nvidia users if it doesnt work. and wayland is default for everyone else. so you would give a broken default to a lot of desktop users | 09:34 |
| ravage | and if you want to have a broken system delete the gdm udev rules | 09:35 |
| ravage | as usually gone until his next useless rant :) | 09:37 |
| lotuspsychje | i also had gdm updates this morning, perhaps fixed? | 10:47 |
| ravage | im on nvidia. so no idea :) | 10:51 |
| lotuspsychje | i never went looking | 10:52 |
| Sven_vB | hi :) | 15:04 |
| Sven_vB | Pinchiukas_, I'm a maintainer of the SuperGRUB Disk. If you like, please let's cooperate in our endeavor of preserving GRUB availability for i386 via Ubuntu. | 15:06 |
| Sven_vB | Pinchiukas_, for a start, I recommend using a GRUB config that is not managed by Ubuntu, but instead auto-detects available kernels. | 15:10 |
| Sven_vB | I should probably package and release the one I use. | 15:11 |
| The_LoudSpeaker_ | Hey! | 17:29 |
| The_LoudSpeaker_ | I am on 22.04 daily since some time and I noticed that the wayland option from login screen has disappeared. | 17:30 |
| The_LoudSpeaker_ | I am always getting logged into x11 session. I am sure it has happened after some updates. I was on wayland before and gestures were working in gnome. | 17:30 |
| The_LoudSpeaker_ | Is there something I am missing here? | 17:31 |
| lotuspsychje | there's an existing bug on that The_LoudSpeaker_ | 17:32 |
| lotuspsychje | bug #1969243 | 17:32 |
| ubottu | Bug 1969243 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Jammy) "gdm 42.0-1ubuntu4 no longer shows Wayland option" [Critical, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1969243 | 17:32 |
| The_LoudSpeaker_ | Nice. | 17:39 |
| The_LoudSpeaker_ | Thanks lotuspsychje | 17:40 |
| lotuspsychje | np The_LoudSpeaker_ | 17:41 |
| Aarch64debian | !release | 21:54 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months (non-LTS) or 5 years (LTS). More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 21:54 |
| Aarch64debian | !jammy | 21:55 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) will be the 36th release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release April 2022 (https://ubottu.com/y/jj). Join #ubuntu-next for support and questions. | 21:55 |
| Aarch64debian | !when | 21:55 |
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