[01:23] <keithzg> I keep forgetting I already upgraded my desktop to 22.04 because I've had such a complete lack of any problems! Kindof a rare experience for me since I tend to have terrible luck and always find some crazy edge case (hence nobody sends me anything to test at work anymore lol)
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[12:14] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:04] <daemon-420> BluesKaj -good day nice I found you... I am doug/dougie/dougiel from #kubuntu on freenode...
[15:04] <daemon-420> how are you
[15:21] <BluesKaj> hey daemon-420, Doug, LTNS, doing fine here , how about you?
[15:23] <daemon-420> BluesKaj, pretty good, I ran away from ubuntu distro flavours... snaps make me nervous
[15:24] <daemon-420> I moved to Linux Mint now I am using arch as a daily driver - have not settled but it will be Linux Mint Debian edition or arch linux
[15:25] <daemon-420> ... insert program and hit anykey to install is a Microsoft thing with MS consequences... the wasted resources and space snaps take up.
[15:26] <daemon-420> these are all my suspisions I am not sure if they are true or un founded
[15:27] <BluesKaj> well, I'm still on kubuntu, but avoiding snapd, I deleted it from my default packages altho we still need Glibs for it. but thsat doesn't mean we need to use it
[15:27] <daemon-420> and that is why I came looking for you - to see what your thots were on the matter.
[15:29] <daemon-420> did not have to use it... that is what I thought - not sure if it was 20.04 or 22.10  in a virtual machine but I removed all snap support as per googled instructions...
[15:31] <daemon-420> then installed google and apt-get pulled in snapd and all the dependancies and installed google snap... not for me... this surrendering my computer to the whims of software developers was over with windows98 I aint going backwards...
[15:31] <daemon-420> I will use slack or gentoo if need be but I think mint DE and arch are going to be my daily driver
[15:32] <daemon-420> installed chromium not google
[15:33] <BluesKaj> watchout out for firefox on 'buntu , it uses a snap version now
[15:33] <daemon-420> shit I hate it when I mess up my messages - did you understand my gibberish... I know you don't install google.
[15:35] <daemon-420> BluesKaj, I only have one ubuntu install on a virtual machine for the sole purpose of learning how to disable snaps for a buddy that runs 20.04 before the fall.
[15:36] <daemon-420> if it aint resolved by the fall I am going to suggest a new SSD and Linux Mint for him if I can talk him into it.
[15:37] <daemon-420> how can you run 2 versions of software on snaps?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> dunno, I haven't tried
[17:07] <BluesKaj> sorry was away mucking about with my old plasma tv, a friend wanted it for his garage, but the  RGB colour chip is crapped out
[17:14] <BluesKaj> gotta go...take care
[17:39] <dadadev> Como puedo actualizar Kubuntu sin necesidad de reinstalarlo desde cero con la imagen ISO?
[17:41] <dadadev> How to update to Kubuntu 22.04 wiitout reinstall it with ISO image?
[17:56] <daemon-420> dad did you get an answer... release update ubuntu is what I am googling
[17:56] <daemon-420> lol
[17:59] <daemon-420> release upgrade not available til september - Right?
[18:01] <genii> Until whenevr the first point-release comes out
[18:01] <genii> It can vary as to when that happens
[18:01] <daemon-420> good to know thank genii
[18:02] <genii> In previous releases this can happpen anywhere from mid-July onwards
[18:03] <daemon-420> very good then... thank you.
[19:08] <valorie>  for those interested, ISOs to test are up: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/432/builds/247125/testcases