[07:35] <Pinchiukas_> Sven_vB_: what config would that be?
[09:04] <aturetta> is there an image for 22.04 RC, or is it just a source freeze?
[09:04] <aturetta> I only find BETA images
[09:07] <ravage> aturetta, https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[10:10] <bittin> Installing the RC now and listening to the LUP Easter Episode: https://linuxunplugged.com/454 about 22.04 and F36
[10:58]  * bittin is upgrading from RC1 to RC 1.5 now and testing
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> hey PaulW2U 
[14:33] <PaulW2U> lotuspsychje: Hello, I've been ISO testing. Kubuntu looks good
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> daniel pointed your git find to my bug #1969175
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> nice PaulW2U 
[14:36] <PaulW2U> I won't be moving to Kooky Kangaroo or whatever and Ubuntu Jammy has far too many issues for me at this time
[14:36] <PaulW2U> Kubuntu 22.04 might be where I go after Ubuntu's release on Thursday. it just works for me.
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> im an lts tester, so after final -next will be 24.04 for me :p
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> the kubuntu community is great
[14:39] <PaulW2U> Right. I've never understood why GNOME > Debian mean changes and Debian > Ubuntu means further changes....
[14:40] <PaulW2U> I was a Kubuntu user from 11.04 to 14.10 but the move to plasma 5 was not good. it's so much better with the jammy release
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> im sticking to -desktop where ever it goes, for my customers using LTS desktops
[14:42] <rbasak> Has anyone else noticed windows that were maximised that didn't extend into the dock area later expanding into the dock area as well?
[14:42] <rbasak> I keep having to un-maximise and re-maximise to fix that.
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> can you tell us the steps to reproduce rbasak 
[14:45] <rbasak> Sorry, I can't. I don't know how to reproduce it. I just see it happening now and then.
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> i dont noticed min/max issues right away
[14:46] <rbasak> I do switch virtual workspaces quite a bit, and use standby quite a bit. That's all I know really. That's why I was wondering if anyone else had seen the behaviour.
[14:46] <PaulW2U> rbasak: I don't think I've seen that problem
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> what should i try a lot to maybe invoke it?
[14:49] <PaulW2U> lotuspsychje: I'd like to stick with Ubuntu for 22.04 as I have 18.04 and 20.04 on another laptop but 22.04 is so problematical for me running Wayland and two monitors
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> i see PaulW2U maybe a .1 might sort your issue out
[14:50] <PaulW2U> lotuspsychje: if I'm still here for that..
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> : )
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> rbasak: we are both on intel graphics, and you?
[15:02] <rbasak> otp now, sorry, my laptop is not with me any more. I think it's Intel - Dell XPS 9360. I can check later, but if it's not affecting others much, maybe it's not important enough to care.
[15:02] <rbasak> I think it happens on combinations of suspend/resume/unlock cycles and switching virtual workspaces. With multiple apps.
[15:03] <rbasak> It's obvious because the dock is transluscent and so I know it happens when I start seeing things underneath it.
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> i see
[15:14] <en11gma> did the devs fix the 3060 ti with white screen? i was able to move my 3060ti from an amd X570 5600x system to a B660 12600k system and it does the same thing
[15:15] <en11gma> im writing 04-19-22 to usb stick and will boot to a live enviroment to check soon for myself. im guessing its not fixed that quick
[15:15] <en11gma> bet it wont get in before final release 04-21-22
[15:16] <en11gma> HUGE problem. ppl with 30xx series cards will not be able to update if running live usb from the final.
[15:16] <en11gma> they will have to get a daily at some point if they want to use live usb
[15:16] <en11gma> or wait for a point release
[15:17] <en11gma> i did also check the display port on the 30xx gpu but using a display port to hdmi adapter/dongle thingy
[15:18] <en11gma> when i boot up this next time i will take a picture with my camera and upload to imgur.com and link that pic if its all white screen again.
[15:46] <en11gma> here are the pictures
[15:46] <en11gma> https://imgur.com/a/cGTxJqi
[15:46] <en11gma> im going to try and download a different flavor and see what happens
[15:47] <en11gma> i did a cntrl-alt-t to get a term and then typed that command. it was froze for a long time and then it finally logged me out
[15:47] <en11gma> to a white screen gui. i didnt get a pic of that
[15:56] <PaulW2U> en11gma: further to your comments at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2022/04/18/%23ubuntu-next.txt can you link to any bug reports that you have raised regarding your concerns?
[18:41] <bittin> RC2 is out now
[18:43] <bittin> http://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=3576 HPR about 22.04 Betas and RCs
[22:29] <enigma9o7[m]> I installed ubuntu server, then lxde.  (Nothing else).   It seems LXDE has a hard dependency on mousepad, which I think is a mistake.  
[22:29] <enigma9o7[m]> Leadfpad was removed from debian for no longer being officially maintained, but both gedit (from gnome) and mousepad (from xfce) got installed.  Pretty sure only one of those should get installed, and the CONTROL file for lxde should allow any text editor.... meaning I should be able to remove leafpad.
[22:33] <enigma9o7[m]> errr be able to remove mousepad
[22:36] <kryten> Well, I dunno where you got gedit from but lxde currently just specifies "mousepad | leafpad" as alternative dependencies.
[22:43] <enigma9o7[m]> Yeah, hence why I cannot remove mousepad.
[22:44] <kryten> Yep.
[22:47] <howarth> Fixed /lib/udev/rules.d/61-gdm.rules to allow Wayland under Nvidia again when /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-power-management.conf contains 'options nvidia NVreg_PreserveVideoMemoryAllocations=1'
[22:48] <howarth> The current test for NVreg_PreserveVideoMemoryAllocations=1 in /lib/udev/rules.d/61-gdm.rules is broken
[22:48] <howarth> If you change it from
[22:48] <howarth> IMPORT{program}="/bin/sh -c \"sed -e 's/: /=/g' -e 's/\([^[:upper:]]\)\([[:upper:]]\)/\1_\2/g' -e 's/[[:lower:]]/\U&/g' -e 's/^/NVIDIA_/' /proc/driver/nvidia/params\""
[22:49] <howarth> which doesn't parse the escaped double quotes properly to
[22:49] <howarth> IMPORT{program}="/bin/sh -c 'sed -e \"s/: /=/g\" -e \"s/\([^[:upper:]]\)\([[:upper:]]\)/\1_\2/g\" -e \"s/[[:lower:]]/\U&/g\" -e \"s/^/NVIDIA_/\" /proc/driver/nvidia/params'"
[22:49] <howarth> it works fine 
[22:50] <howarth> I figured that out from looking at the example of the original udev commit to support escaped quotes
[22:50] <howarth> which had the same pattern
[22:50] <howarth>  PROGRAM=="/bin/sh -c 'FOO=\"%s{model}\"; echo ${FOO:0:4}'"
[22:50] <howarth> of double quotes surrounding single quotes surrounding escaped double quotes
[22:51] <enigma9o7[m]> I'm curious why gedit got installed too.  I looked thru `apt rdepends gedit` and I dont think I have any of that stuff installed.  Is there a way to query apt or dpkg to tell me any details about how it got installed or what reccommended it?
[22:52] <enigma9o7[m]> or maybe there's some logs I could look into?